/r/Cantonese

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你好! We are a community of learners, native speakers, and friends who share a passion for all things Cantonese. We are dedicated to share resources and promote the Cantonese language, cuisine, and culture! 呢度都歡迎用廣東話呀!

In the spirit of sharing and learning, please keep discussions civil and constructive. We have established some basic rules and they will be updated as needed. Comments and posts that fail to adhere to the rules will be removed. Repeat offenders may be banned.

Welcome to r/Cantonese!

你好! We are a community of learners, native speakers, and friends. This is a place to learn and share all about Cantonese language, cuisine, and culture.

Getting Started:

Courses

  • FSI Cantonese Basic Course: This course was created by the Foreign Service Institute. It contains 30 lessons, exploring grammar, pronunciation, and culture with text and audio. FREE.

  • Pimsleur's Cantonese: An audio-only basic course with 30 interactive lessons. ~$250 on Amazon.

  • TY Cantonese: Teach Yourself Cantonese is a quick and easy way to get started with Cantonese. It includes a book and audio to help you learn at your own pace. ~$25 on Amazon.

Podcasts

  • RTHK Naked Cantonese: With more than 200 episodes about 10 minutes each, Naked Cantonese is a fun and engaging podcast about using Cantonese in daily situations in Hong Kong.

  • Happy Jellyfish Cantocourse: Cecilie Gamst Berg is a Norwegian expat living in Hong Kong. She has created hilarious videos on youtube for anyone interested in learning basic Cantonese. Highly recommended!

Books

  • Basic Cantonese Grammar: Wife and husband, Virginia Yip(CUHK) and Stephen Matthews(HKU), are renowned linguists and the authors many Cantonese language books. The first book in their series explores the basic grammar of modern colloquial Cantonese.

  • Learn Chinese using Cantonese: Greenwood press has many language learning books focused on Cantonese. This is one of the most popular ones for those who grew up speaking Cantonese and want to learn to read and write Chinese.

Miscellaneous

  • CUHK Character Dictionary: An android app with more than 13k chinese characters with jyutping and audio pronunciation.

  • CPIME: This phonetic IME is the best one available for Windows. It comes in different flavors depending on your favorite romanization method.

  • CantoFish: is Cantonese-English dictionary that works as an Add-On to Mozilla Firefox

  • Cantonese Sheik Dictionary

  • Online Jyutping Input Method 網上粵拼輸入法 A great website if you only need to type Chinese occasionally and don't want to install a keyboard. On the sidebar you can choose other input methods as well--the icons from top to bottom are Cantonese, Pinyin, Cangjie, Simplified Cangjie, and Jyutping.

Related subreddits

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Can someone track down the Chinese names of these locations?

Location names on the file are only given in Wade-Giles (some if not most of these places probably don't exist anymore):

Sankanchung, in the Fifth District of what was then Zhongshan xian (now a prefecture-level city).

Hungwan and Moulouhsia, said to be next to Macao.

Tachingtao, possibly somewhere around Toushan and Qianwu.

Wantsao (probably a mishmash of Wanshan Island + Sanzao Island? The coordinates are a match to Sanzao).

Tungmenwang, possibly somewhere around Hengmen.

Chiao, somewhere around Hengmen.

Hsinhu (maybe a misspelling of Xinhui?).

Hsungte (maybe a corruption of Shunde?), possibly somewhere around Chencun.

All of these locations are in Guangdong so I figured the Cantonese community might be of help as this request of mine couldn't gain enough traction on other subreddits for someone to respond.

0 Comments
2024/11/14
14:01 UTC

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Cantonese word I don't see too often while studying but that it is important: 全程 cyun4 cing4

(英) We haven't slept in the car for the whole journey.

(粵) 我哋喺車上面全程都冇瞓過 

(英) Ah Chung insisted on finishing the whole journey by running.

阿松堅持跑足全程

(英) She didn't smile throughout the dinner tonight.

今晚餐飯佢全程都冇笑過

Source: https://words.hk/zidin/%E5%85%A8%E7%A8%8B

13 Comments
2024/11/14
01:15 UTC

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What is the right word for meditation?

Some people say it's 靜坐 some say 打坐 and Google says 冥想. Do they all have different meanings?

5 Comments
2024/11/14
00:21 UTC

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Celebrity interview shows?

I’m brushing up on my Cantonese and really like watching celebrity interviews for this. I am currently working through The Do Show, and I really liked TVB’s Be My Guest back in the day. Any recs for things like that? I’m more familiar with 90s HK pop culture, so older ones are okay too (maybe even preferable? lol).

8 Comments
2024/11/13
19:46 UTC

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Cantonese Listening: Sharpen Your Ears(intermediate) Work & Study

0 Comments
2024/11/13
13:28 UTC

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Traditional birthday cakes

What kind of cream do bakers use for traditional Chinese fruit birthday cakes? It tastes like whipped cream but heavier, and creamier.

13 Comments
2024/11/13
13:18 UTC

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What does it mean to "teach Chinese" using Cantonese?

I've read that the CCP is sort've forcing Mandarin teaching into HK schools, but the controversy isn’t about mandarin lessons, It’s about using mandarin to teach Chinese instead of using Cantonese to teach Chinese.

I'm wondering what does this mean? "Using mandarin to teach Chinese"? Isn't Mandarin and Cantonese both Chinese? So how is there a difference in using each one to teach Chinese, unless you're teaching the language itself?

Or, does this have to do with the reading/writing of traditional vs simplified Chinese, and/or cultural studies of China?

I'm doing a bit of writing on the suppression of Cantonese and I'm just confused by what this means exactly!

26 Comments
2024/11/13
09:21 UTC

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Just found out my great grandfather was Cantonese and would love to hear resources, advice, etc. for learning the language as an adult.

I grew up knowing my great grandfather was Chinese and often hearing stories from my grandfather about being raised by an English mother and Chinese father. Because his parents both spoke English and his mother didn't speak Chinese, and his father worked while his mother stayed at home to take care of their son, my grandfather grew up only speaking English and grew up in American culture. Still he often told us he was proud of his Chinese heritage.

I knew very little about China and Chinese Culture but was proud to know that's where my great grandfather was from, and had a goal to someday learn to speak Chinese as well as learn about Chinese Culture, History, etc. I made the mistake of assuming when my grandfather said his father's first language was "Chinese" that meant he spoke the Mandarin, so I started studying it a few months ago with hopes to someday (even if it took a decade or more) becoming conversational so I could better connect with this part of my heritage and be able to visit or even live in China for a time

I wanted to make some progress before surprising my Mom so after working hard for a few months I recently told her about my studies, and she was surprised and told me she was sorry to inform me but my great grandfather spoke Cantonese, not Mandarin.

Now I am wondering what my best course of action is. No one in my family speaks Cantonese and the Chinese Community in the area I live in are predominantly Mandarin speakers. Being an adult who didn't grow up hearing Cantonese and currently not living near any Cantonese speakers is it feasible to try and learn Cantonese on my own?

I am fluent in English and Portuguese (as well as conversational in Spanish), does anyone know if there any good learning materials out there for learning Cantonese from any of these languages? If not is it better I learn Mandarin first and then when I have a decent level of understanding and speaking to learn Cantonese through Mandarin resources?

I would really like to reconnect and learn about this part of my ancestry and the culture and language surrounding it, so any advice on ways to learn more about the culture (book and movie suggestions, YouTube channels, music or food recommendations, etc.) or how to get started learning the language would be very much appreciated. Thank you!

13 Comments
2024/11/12
21:44 UTC

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In San Francisco, what written language is used for the Cantonese /Taishan communities (for Cantonese), in the past and at present? In school and the city.

I suppose Tradional Chinese characters were used in the past? Do people change to simplified characters along with mandarin?

What has been changed in the daily life like at school and in the city?

7 Comments
2024/11/12
18:44 UTC

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Not all Cantonese are from HK

I want to make this post after someone posted about a tiktoker fafalily saying they are Cantonese, but people say they are Vietnamese.

This story is about me and I want to let other people know that Cantonese are not just from Hk.

This is me! I am so tired of people telling me I am not Chinese. I can speak perfect Cantonese. I can read and write both traditional and simplified Chinese and canto slangs. I grew up speaking and practicing Cantonese culture. Most importantly, my ancestors are from China. The only diff for me is I was born in Vietnam, and I have a Vietnamese name and I look Vietnamese. I am teaching my child Cantonese language (傳承粵語), but some people are just so mean. When I am on 小红书, I see more and more people from GZ don’t even speak Cantonese anymore. When I introduce myself to new friend, I tell them straight that I am Cantonese from Vietnam and some people are like you are not Chinese. Anyway, I feel bad for some of these people kept complaining that oh people don’t speak Cantonese anymore in China blah blah and then still want to pass on the culture, but go and complain about me not being Chinese bc I wasn’t born in HK or GZ. Sorry, there are people from Malaysia, Singapore, Thailand. We identify ourselves as 華僑. I have experienced this all my life in the state. I get to the point that I don’t even care. I let them talk shit about me and then I stare at them. Oh, I also can understand Mandarin, but don’t speak it. When I first met my Taiwanese in laws, they are really nice, but I would hear their friends saying oh your daughter in law is viet, blah blah until they found out that I am Cantonese and can understand them. It’s funny. Anyway, sorry for the long post. I just want to say that it’s very similar to people born in the US and say they are Chinese American. That’s the best way I explain to my friends. No offense to anyone. I just want to say Cantonese can come from other places other than HK.

134 Comments
2024/11/12
18:41 UTC

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Meaning of 食飽

I saw online on instagram, ‘你想食得飽 - you’ll know what to do’ what does this actually mean? It was in the context of boy and girlfriend

Thanks in advance 😀

5 Comments
2024/11/12
18:26 UTC

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Names?

Wondering if this is a good name or not for a baby boy and mostly if it means what i think it means .

適義

9 Comments
2024/11/12
18:20 UTC

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Torrent Question

hello! it's been a while since the question was last asked on this sub, so here goes. does anyone know of good torrent sites for cantonese films? all the ones mentioned in this sub a few years ago don't seem to work any more :(

4 Comments
2024/11/12
16:24 UTC

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Receiving candy after giving “white gold” - meaning?

So my friend’s parent passed away and as part of the customs, I gave him white gold ($101) or 白金. In return, I received a candy in a red envelope from my friend. When I told my mom that, she told me I cannot accept it because my dad’s birthday is coming up(?)

What is the meaning of the candy? Would it be rude to give it back to my friend since I already took it?

15 Comments
2024/11/12
06:39 UTC

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Can someone explain what he’s saying?

19 Comments
2024/11/12
00:10 UTC

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Fafalily is one of us!

47 Comments
2024/11/11
21:15 UTC

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Did anyone else first learn the letter Z as /ee-ZED/?

A guide to our alphabet | RobWords (15:01 mark)

I think some of my extended family in Hong Kong still call it /ee-ZED/ and I had thought it was just a corruption/mutation of pronunciation /zed/ until I came across this video.

Does anybody have a clue to how this esoteric pronunciation of the letter Z became the norm in some Cantonese-speaking populations?

Edit: Just found that it's also briefly mentioned in the Cantonese Wikipedia page for the letter, /ˈɪzɚd/ and /jiˈsɛt/. And Wiktionary too, under Z and izzard.

16 Comments
2024/11/11
11:21 UTC

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Does anyone know why TVB doesn’t invite famous Cantonese artists (like the ones in this video) to participate in their live stage shows and fun events?

Ive always wanted to know this. Im actually quite surprise during the old times when TVB invited famous Cantonese artists (like the ones in this video) to participate in their live stage shows that the artists actually all had time to attend on the same day.

25 Comments
2024/11/11
10:17 UTC

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Distinguishing Cantonese from Taishanese in the wild

What are some key “tells” that someone is speaking Taishanese rather than Cantonese? Specific sounds, words, etc.?

I’m in the SF Bay Area and there are many Cantonese and Taishanese speakers. My Cantonese is very basic, so in the streets I’m often not sure if I’m not understanding people I overhear because my Cantonese is terrible, or because they are actually speaking Taishanese.

I feel like the few Taishanese words I’ve learned from online, I never encounter IRL. But it’s seeming more and more apparent to me that Taishanese has a TON of variants, so that may be why I seem not to hear those words. If you happen to know which local dialect of Taishanese is most common in SF (if any!), would love to know!

21 Comments
2024/11/11
08:49 UTC

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Confused about the meaning of "肥佬黎倒眼輝"

I know 肥佬黎 is referring to the person, but what about"倒眼輝"? Is it an action of the eye like being upside down?

5 Comments
2024/11/11
06:16 UTC

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「喇」同「咗」有咩唔同?

8 Comments
2024/11/11
03:48 UTC

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Could anyone share about the Cantonese speaking community in US, especially in San Francisco

I have heard that there are still quite a lot of people using the language in San Francisco, are they mostly from the older generation? Or immigrants from decades ago? How is Cantonese spoken in the country? Like is it feel like a dying language of still a vibrant one?

I am truly curious.

42 Comments
2024/11/11
01:14 UTC

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屙屎要同老師講呀,知道未啊?(let the teacher know if you need to poo, do you understand?)

0 Comments
2024/11/10
18:51 UTC

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Why I hate tiktok

https://www.scmp.com/abacus/culture/article/3078365/chinas-version-tiktok-suspends-users-speaking-cantonese

I also got banned for speaking cantonese.

Plus xiao hong shu. -_-'

video disappeared calling mainland chicks DA LU. lame.

31 Comments
2024/11/10
15:33 UTC

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My favorite IG influencer

2 Comments
2024/11/10
15:30 UTC

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Cantonese speakers, what are those drawn out sounds that occur sometimes in the language?

I don't really know how to phrase this but it is something I've noticed in Hong Kong movies, most recently in City of Fire. My Cantonese knowledge is non-existent so I need to ask y'all lol. For example here's the first scene I could find in YouTube showing this, from Infernal Affairs.
https://youtu.be/iwEdvXKFRJQ?t=134

Here at 2:15 when Tony Leung speaks there's something like a "yawaaah" sound at the end and then when the other guy speaks the sound is more like "lowaaaah".
I've noticed these mostly when characters are arguing.
I wonder, what are those drawn-out sounds exactly? If you go back to 0:37 in the same clip when Leung is speaking to Andy Lau
https://youtu.be/iwEdvXKFRJQ?t=37
you don't really hear those, both actors end their sentences with shorter/not drawn-out sounds.

Is it just something that happens when Cantonese speakers are arguing/acting more emotional, or?

16 Comments
2024/11/10
12:11 UTC

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Yuqi pt3

Somebody get her a Canto bf to correct her pronunciation asap

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1Fi3kmTzLP/?mibextid=UalRPS

10 Comments
2024/11/10
08:28 UTC


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