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A subreddit dedicated to Attack on Titan (進撃の巨人) manga and anime series.

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Sasageyo on Piano 😳

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2 Comments
2024/12/01
23:29 UTC

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This is the most WTF face if I ever seen one

1 Comment
2024/12/01
23:33 UTC

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Attack on titan lego statue?

I see it on amazon called attack on titan building block so i think it is scam has anyone built it

1 Comment
2024/12/01
22:38 UTC

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My Eren figure

1 Comment
2024/12/01
22:15 UTC

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Saw this comment under a reaction to the warrior ep 💀

2 Comments
2024/12/01
22:14 UTC

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Was there anything else that could've been done?

Eren saw multiple ways to do his plan and the only one that worked out for him was destroying 80% of the world population, let us remember Marley had declared war to Paradis with big part of the world behind it so was there anything else that could've been done?

10 Comments
2024/12/01
22:01 UTC

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Why do people like Floch?

Feel free to explain it to me bur I watched Aot 2 times now and both times Floch feels like a completely unlikable character. I'm not saying that just cuz he is doing bad things, Zeke is one of my personal favourites. I just feel like he is just written as an asshole whilst doing it. Killing and then smiling after it like a sociopath sometimes. I 100% get the motivation but his cocky attitude makes me hate him. Can anyone explain to me why they (or atleast a lot of people) seem to like Floch as a character

4 Comments
2024/12/01
21:33 UTC

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Mikasa hate is overrated.

Mikasa hate is kind of overrated. I know she’s not the best-written character in the series, and I would agree with people who say she could’ve been better written and had more character development. She's always calling Eren’s name, which is annoying to some people (I never really cared); however, she’s not as bad as people make her out to be. She’s a pretty decent character.

One thing people always say is that she’s one-dimensional because she joined the survey corps solely because of Eren, whom she viewed as family and wanted to protect, or she only cares about Eren when that’s just not true, and it’s been shown many times: showing affection to Connie and Levi, saving Historia, Annie, and Armin. She accepted Levi’s decision to give the titan serum Erwin after listening to Hange’s words.

There are plenty of characters in Attack on Titan who joined the military (or whatever branches) with motives and objectives to fulfill their duty, impress their family members, or make it back to their homeland, like Annie, Reiner, and Bertholdt, who ultimately joined the warrior program/military to return to their homeland and family. Pieck saw that her father had gotten sick and would not survive long without proper medical care, so she joined the warrior program and inherited the Cart Titan.

Connie, who wanted to join the Military Police to make his parents proud, was inspired by Erens speech, which made him join the scouts. So I don't see why it’s such a big deal that Mikasa joined because of Eren. Armin wanted to gain knowledge and understanding about the world beyond the walls, but he also wanted to stay close to his friends (Eren and Mikasa).

I get that they all have some sort of character development thought out series; however, the point still remains that they’re doing what they’re doing because most sort of family relations. So I don’t get why everyone gets so angry that Mikasa did the same.

In my opinion, Mikasa was the most likeable in the Struggle for Trost arc—that was her peak. Even after Eren's supposed death, she continued to fight and lead her comrades because she knew she didn’t have the time to grieve if she wanted to save her friends. Mikasa also acknowledges that Eren would not want her to give up after his death. He wanted her to continue living.

She witnessed her parents being killed and was there during the fall of Shiganshina, losing family again, probably why she’s so attached to Eren. Give the girl a break. She had a lot of traumatic experiences, and everyone handles their trauma differently.

In the end of the series, she decided to kill Eren to save lives and ended up moving on and starting a family with someone who’s not Eren. That has to be considered character development.

Anyway, you don’t have to like her, and I know everyone has their opinions. I just think the hatred of her character is a little overexaggerated. To say she's one of the worst-written characters in anime history is just crazy. She was involved throughout the series. There’s a lot of stuff missing, and please excuse my grammar. I wrote this all in one sitting.

(She gets treated a little unfairly, and that's okay. It's cool—she's a badass Titan-killing machine, just like Levi, and I love her. No one can make me dislike her!)

I love her strength too! Okay, byeeee! ✌️👋

28 Comments
2024/12/01
20:37 UTC

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Stressed out gf helpppp🙈

I’m looking to buy a box set of the full manga for AOT for my boyfriend for Xmas and I cannot for the life of me find one anywhere. On amazon there’s some but they’re in sections and the titles make no sense to me and it’s very confusing!! If someone could please help that would be awesome. Thank you in advance😎

4 Comments
2024/12/01
16:24 UTC

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Levi is overrated

I started Attack on Titan manga and now I'm at 133.

Ecept for his scenes with Zeke and his short fight with Annie in season 1, I haven't seen anything from this guy, or am I stupid?

Why do people love this character so much?

14 Comments
2024/12/01
16:40 UTC

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Um guys this mr Kruger guy kinda looks like Eren.... even his Titan form.

Is it supposed to mean something? Isayam is cooking

15 Comments
2024/12/01
14:58 UTC

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Alternative timeline

26 Comments
2024/12/01
14:13 UTC

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Mikasa as Zoro [art by iurypadilha_art]

13 Comments
2024/12/01
13:07 UTC

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Eren vs Reiner & Bertholdt || After Dark edit

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2024/12/01
12:41 UTC

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Is it ever explained why Rod Reiss's pure titan form is the largest pure titan form we've seen? (he's bigger than the colossals (both Bertholdt/Armin and the colossals found in the wall)).

At first I thought it was to do with royal blood but looking at the transformations of his daughter nobody ever got that big to destroy the church. It's also important to remember that he licked the fluid rather than injecting it into his spine so could that be the factor? (although Eren also drank the armor fluid even though he already had titan abilities)

16 Comments
2024/12/01
11:54 UTC

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Alright, i made an edit earlier replacing Erens roar with the Sea Dragon Leviathan roar from Subnautica.

r/Subnautica mods didn't like it because of rule 2, "Low effort post, vote begging, etc"

Maybe this subreddit will like it more. It's my first try at editing, and thankfully Filmoranis easy to understand.

8 Comments
2024/12/01
08:16 UTC

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Is it just me or did she look better before timeskip?

118 Comments
2024/12/01
07:44 UTC

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What do you think it would be like if Eldians were the only people on earth?

Say the rumbling happens and Erin doesn't chicken out. What do you think the world would be like now that Eldians have infinite free real estate? What happens?

19 Comments
2024/12/01
06:59 UTC

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I just finished AOT…

Bro What do i do now? how do i move on?!

10 Comments
2024/12/01
06:18 UTC

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female titan

Its been like 6 months since Ive finished AOT but Im realizing I dont understand the female titan and whats unique about it. All of the other titans have specific qualities but whats hers? She is definitely powerful of course maybe its just my memory

20 Comments
2024/12/01
05:01 UTC

1

Rewatching Season 4

I completely forgot about the scene between Eren and his grandfather. Honestly incredible

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2024/12/01
05:00 UTC

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The 4 Plans of Season 4 - Full Description and Explanation Overview (Long Post)

The Final Season of Attack on Titan can be difficult to process for even the most observant watchers and fans. Isayama trusts his audience to keep up with him as he very quickly sets the stage for the last arcs of his story. The narrative had only just opened up after the basement reveal at the end of the previous season in the "Return to Shiganshina" arc, and now it scales upward and outward in ways that can be difficult to wrap your head around.

With this in mind, I've decided to take all the info given to the audience and will lay it out in a way that makes the plot easier to follow.

I will try to keep the later spoilers to a minimum by listing each of the plans in the order they are revealed to the audience, which happens to be mostly chronologically. As each of the plans expand and evolve I'll return to previous points to outline the changes that happen for each. If I'm lucky this might end up being helpful for any viewers/readers who get a bit lost or confused by the style of storytelling in Attack on Titan's Final Season.

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The 50 Year Plan -

In Year 851 the Scouts intercept the first of Marley's survey ships as it attempts reconnaissance of Paradis Island. Marley is seeking information in the aftermath of the Warrior Unit's defeat in Shiganshina a year earlier. After mutineering the Marleyan crew, Yelena and the Anti-Marleyan Volunteers agree to diplomacy with Paradis. Yelena presents The 50 Year Plan's basic outline to Paradis and offers a truce on behalf of Zeke Jaeger.

Hange concludes that Paradis needs to accept the help of the Anti-Marleyan Volunteers in order to continue intercepting the rest of Marley's survey ships. Their two-way radio was essential to lure in all additional ships sent to investigate those already missing and activity on the island.

With the help of the Anti-Marleyan Volunteers, and some Marleyan Prisoners of War's willing to cooperate; Paradis reopens its port a year later in 852.

Paradis welcomes its first international visitor; Kiyomi Azumabito, head of the Azumabito Clan, representative and ambassador of the nation of Hizuru.

In the first official international diplomatic meeting to occur on the island in over 100 years; Kiyomi outlines the entire 50 Year Plan for Paradis' military leadership and royal council.

Test-run of The Rumbling:

The first pillar of the 50 Year Plan requires Paradis showcase for the world a small portion of The Rumbling's full potential. This test will act as a deterrent to dissuade any potential invaders from attacking the island nation.

This test would have presumably functioned like a Nuclear Test from our own history.
We would apply the "Three C's of nuclear deterrence" - Capability, Credibility, and Communication.

In practice this means the Paradis Military will evacuate the Shiganshina District of all civilians to reduce the possibility of casualties. Shiganshina has been in the process of being rebuilt by the Reeves Company since its recapture two years earlier by the Scouts.

Using the Founding Titan's power, Eren Jaeger would release the hundreds of Wall Titans surrounding Shiganshina, and command them to march on either an environmental testing site or an evacuated military outpost in a strictly controlled setting. This would prove capability.

Kiyomi Azumabito would act as an intermediary with the outside world and on Zeke Jaeger's behalf to facilitate opening diplomatic channels with Marley and other nations. Kiyomi would provide the credibility needed to, at the very least, begin the communication process. The optimistic version of events would include ambassadors and media representatives from the most influential nations and alliances visiting Paradis themselves, and having them personally witness the Test Rumbling. This would add further credibility for their home nations and companies to share. Once the ambassadors are on good terms with Paradis's own representatives the communication channels would remain open indefinitely.

The Azumabito Clan will provide a Flying Boat with which the results of the Test-Rumbling can be safely observed, using the unique resources and fossil fuel found exclusively on Paradis.

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Hizuru's Technological Advancement:

The second pillar of the 50 Year Plan requires that Hizuru uses its resources to quickly modernize the military technology and defensive capabilities of Paradis. The Vow Renouncing War made by Karl Fritz 109 years earlier had left the island a century behind the rest of the world in technological development.

Zeke Jaeger negotiated an agreement with the Azumabito Clan and Hizuru on behalf of Paradis in secret, long before any foreigners had set foot on the island's shore. Zeke's agreement with the Azumabito Clan outlined that the Azumabito would have monopoly rights to the special resources of Paradis. In exchange for this financial incentive, the Azumabito would be taking on a considerable risk in helping the isolated nation viewed as hostile by the rest of the world.

To further sweeten the deal, Zeke Jaeger revealed and agreed to the meeting of the potential long lost child of Hizuru's former ruler; the Shogun. This descendant of the former leader of their clan and country is none other than Mikasa Ackerman.

It is not enough to simply provide modern weaponry to Paradis, they need to establish a firm base of national power. This includes a fully functional modern army, as well as advances in education, economy, diplomacy and population. Paradis is over 100 years behind the rest of the world, and while it won't take a full 100 to catch back up, it will likely take at least 50.

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Maintaining the Founding Titan:

The third and final pillar of the 50 Year Plan requires that Paradis maintains its ability to use The Rumbling until such a time as it is no longer necessary as a defensive measure against outside threats.

This means that Zeke would surrender the Beast Titan power to Historia before the end of his term, and then during her own 13 year term she would be required to give birth to as many children as humanly possible. At the end of her 13 years she would pass the Beast Titan to one of her eldest children. All of Historia's children and grandchildren would be expected to continue this renewed tradition for as long as the rate of modernization requires.

Eren would pass the Founding Titan down to a non-royal from Paradis at the end of his term who would repeat the process as necessary.

These two titan powers would need to be maintained for the full 50 years, or however much longer after that it would take for The Rumbling to become a truly obsolete weapon, presumably until nuclear technology becomes accessible to Paradis and the other major nations of the world.

In addition to Historia being forced to restart the Reiss tradition of inheritance, this would also require her and her future family go into hiding from public view to prevent possible assassination attempts. She may be a titan but that wouldn't make her invulnerable, and it would certainly attract more targets to her head.

It is never stated how Zeke planned to have the titan serum and himself extracted from Marley. It is unclear if he would bother doing so in a way that decreases the potential for retaliation against his grandparents. We see in the aftermath of Liberio that even the less than convincing attempt he does make isn't particularly convincing to anyone who suspects foul play. Considering Marley's own reliance on the Power of the Titans to maintain its global standing, it is unlikely that they would be satisfied with establishing a global peace that doesn't secure their own position on top.

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The Modified 50 Year Plan -

In Year 854 multiple events occur that require the 50 Year Plan to be modified slightly. The general premise of the 50 Year Plan remains the same, however the following is a list of modifications made, their causes and the complications that accompany them.

AWOL Founding Titan:

In Year 852 when first hearing the details of Zeke Jaeger's 50 Year Plan in full, Eren had vehemently rejected the terms. Eren refused to condemn Historia and her future children to a life of being bred and raised like livestock, solely to be sacrificed on the altars of national security and prosperity. Eren requested that until Zeke's time as the Beast Titan expires, they be allowed to investigate alternate options. Kiyomi agrees and offers to continue serving as an intermediary between Paradis, the Anti-Marleyan Volunteers, Hizuru and Zeke Jaeger.

Hizuru attempted diplomacy with other nations on behalf of Paradis, but they had been unsuccessful. The world was united in their belief that Paradis was the root of all evil, and they believed this created global stability. Hizuru's own financial interests in the island and the assurances made and agreed to by Zeke Jaeger's 50 Year Plan were also coming into conflict with them offering to trade resources with other nations on the island's behalf. The Azumabito already had a lucrative deal that they were happy with, so they had little incentive to give away any more of it. Doing so would only decrease the benefits they stood to gain for the considerable danger they had put themselves in.

In Year 853 after attempts of diplomacy with the outside world failed, Commander Hange Zoe decides that a small group of her most veteran scouts would infiltrate Marley and introduce themselves to the world personally.

During the Scouts infiltration of Marley in late 853/early 854, Eren Jaeger goes AWOL and remains out of contact with Paradis and the Scouts for a period of 9-10 months. All of Paradis's plans rely on the use of the Founding Titan in either threat or force, so they are left waiting and hoping for any sign of Eren's whereabouts.

While undercover in a Marleyan Eldian mental hospital, Eren convinces the Warrior Candidate Falco Grice to deliver letters from outside the Liberio Internment Zone to the Azumabito Estate in Marley.

In the letters, Eren explains that he has been in contact with Zeke and will be cooperating with Zeke's plans as necessary. He continues to say that he and Zeke will need to be extracted from Marley under the guise of an act of terrorism/war committed against Willy Tybur; the Marley head of state.

The Scouts have no choice but to comply as their continued survival requires Eren and Zeke to cooperate with Paradis. If Eren commits this act of war then the Scouts will have no choice but to back him up to ensure his survival and escape back to the island.

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Preventing Marley's Immediate Counter-Attack:

During Eren's time spent out of contact with Paradis, the circumstances necessary for the 50 Year Plan had changed. The world had learned of Marley's defeat at Shiganshina and the capture of the Colossal and Female Titans. Shortly after this vulnerability was revealed, Marley's enemies banded together and declared war.

It took longer than expected, but the Mid-East Allied Forces were forced to agree to peace on Marley's terms. However this was not a victory Marley benefited from. The war had lasted four years because of the lack of the Colossal and Female Titans, but more importantly because of the modern weapons technology that was devastatingly effective against titans. Marley's Titan-Shifters were no longer the ultimate trump card on the battlefield and as technology developed further they would slip further and further behind.

Marley's military were planning to launch a full scale invasion of Paradis much sooner than previously anticipated. They would do this to reestablish their own global superpower status using the Founding Titan while their military is overhauled with modern technology.

It is worth noting that Paradis and Marley were both at risk of falling behind global advancement, Paradis because of the Vow Renouncing War, and Marley because of their own hubris. They were essentially hoping for the same Hail Mary solution to their shared problem.

Zeke and Eren's extraction from Liberio with military support provided by The Scouts will incite an immediate counter-attack on Paradis from Marley and any other nation Willy's proclamation brings to their side. In order to prevent this, the Scouts will need to cripple Marley's military readiness.

  • Eren's attack on Willy Tybur will be followed by him slaughtering the entire Marley military leadership gathered in preparation for the declaration.
  • Armin will be required to use the Colossal Titan's transformation to obliterate Marley's largest naval port and the remaining Marleyan navy docked there.
  • The rest of the Scouts will need to provide cover for Eren during the attack, as well as neutralize Marley's remaining Warriors; the Jaw, Cart, Armored and War Hammer Titans.
  • The Scouts will also "defeat" the Beast Titan and "capture" Zeke during the ensuing chaos.
  • The war zone created by Eren's attack also provides the cover necessary for Yelena to sneak back into Marley and steal a large quantity of Titan Serum for Paradis. Without the serum Paradis would lack the means to turn Historia into a Pure Titan to inherit the Beast Titan from Zeke.

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Historia's Untimely Pregnancy:

In the 50 Year Plan, Historia is required to sire as many children as possible after she inherits the Beast Titan. This is planned to begin specifically after she inherits the titan to reduce risk of complications that could put the royal bloodline in danger. Pregnancy itself, as well as child-birth are not without significant risks to the mother. This risk is even higher with limited technology, fewer educated and trained doctors and nurses on the island, etc. Historia is the only royal left on the island, and the Paradis military does not trust Zeke enough to have him provide a child he may have influence over.

Historia however falls pregnant shortly after the Scouts left to infiltrate Marley. By the time Eren and Zeke are extracted from Liberio, Historia is 8-9 months pregnant and due to give birth within little over a month.

Because of Historia's early pregnancy, the military must keep Zeke alive on Paradis until after she gives birth. Some among the military vent their frustration by suggesting they force Historia to inherit the Beast Titan from Zeke even while being so heavily pregnant, not knowing what, if any, complications could arise from doing so. It would very likely endanger her yet to be born child, if not outright cause her to miscarry during the titan transformation.

Prior to this change Paradis was planning on having Historia inherit the Beast Titan from Zeke the moment he arrived on the island.

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Limited Rumbling:

Instead of doing a Test-run of The Rumbling, Paradis now needs to use its destructive power to neutralize the counter-attack coming from the Global Military Alliance that prepares to retaliate against Paradis for Liberio. Many of the world's ambassadors, media figures, reporters and ruling class had gathered in Liberio for Willy Tybur's speech, and were subsequently killed or injured during the attack. Willy's speech was designed to unite the world against Paradis, and Eren's attack had secured that objective for Willy.

Kiyomi Azumabito arrives on Paradis with the newly completed Flying Boat powered by Iceburst Stone. This will allow for observation of a Limited Rumbling which will act as a deterrent but also forceful disarmament of all nations hostile to Paradis. A pact of deterrence still has the potential of failing under extreme conditions, however a forceful global disarmament removes the ability for retaliation entirely.

The outer wall of the Shiganshina District will still be able to provide enough Wall Titans to complete this task, so no additional districts need to be evacuated.

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Precautionary Measures:

In response to these changes, Paradis' military takes additional precautions to ensure they remain in control of the delicate situation on the island. Zeke's involvement has been suspect from the beginning, and Paradis is very reluctant to trust him more than they absolutely have to.

  • Historia's location is a well kept secret known only by the officials absolutely necessary.
  • Eren and Zeke are detained separately under intense supervision as now neither brother can be trusted to be working in Paradis' best interest.
  • The Anti-Marleyan Volunteers are detained on house arrest due to their potential conflict of interest between Zeke and Paradis.
  • Gabi and Falco are imprisoned.
  • Dhalis Zachary begins the process of selecting a candidate to inherit the Founding Titan from Eren if he proves unwilling to cooperate.
  • Floch and the others who leaked confidential intelligence about Eren and the attack on Liberio are detained for insubordination.

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Zeke's Eldia Euthanasia Plan -

Zeke's true plan is revealed after he has been on Paradis for a month as events outside of the control of the Paradis military leadership start to unfold. In addition to all previously stated aspects of the Modified 50 Year Plan, the following actions are revealed to have taken place.

Shortly before Eren and the Scouts infiltrated Marley in late 853/early 854, Floch helped Eren get in contact with Yelena. In this meeting Yelena explained Zeke's true intentions and his Eldia Euthanasia Plan.

Zeke's Conspiracy - Willy Tybur, The Tybur Family & Marley:

After returning from Paradis, defeated in the Battle of Shiganshina in Year 850, Zeke and Reiner filled out reports on what information they had learned there. This included the one occasion that Eren had been able to temporarily tap into the power of the Founding Titan, despite the Vow Renouncing War.

Zeke's own knowledge of how the Founding Titan worked and his personal secret of his own royal blood clued him in to what had happened for Eren to use this power. The Pure Titan Eren had made contact with was Zeke's late mother Dina Fritz, and their contact gave Eren partial temporary access to the Founder's power.

Zeke would go on to use this information that only he knew to amplify the threat level of Paradis in his reports for Marley, using Reiner's lack of knowledge to legitimize his false reports and further his goal.

Zeke is able to convince Marley and The Tybur Family that Eren Jaeger and Paradis are already capable of activating The Rumbling, and should be treated as an immediate threat to the outside world.

Zeke uses Willy Tybur as the face of Marley's response to this knowledge. Willy's reputation among the world's leaders and his family's status as the heroes who ended the Great Titan War gave so much clout to his narrative that he would be able to unite the entire world against Paradis.

Zeke has Eren attack Willy in the middle of his declaration, further convincing all of the world's nations to ally with Marley against the Eldians. Eren's attack gave the Scouts a cover to extract the Jaeger brothers out of Marley. This would be seen as act of terror/war and Zeke's capture during the attack would allow his escape and defection without giving Marley proof of his betrayal. This would in theory provide Zeke's grandparents the best shot at being spared being held responsible for Zeke's defection.

Eren's participation in Zeke's Conspiracy would also force Paradis' hand so that they now had a target on their back that they could only save themselves from with Zeke's cooperation, forcing their compliance to follow along with his true plan.

Just as they had planned; Willy Tybur earns the support of the ambassadors of the other nations and the major media covering the event. With the backing of the rest of the world Willy declares war on Paradis just in time for Eren to kill them all and make himself an existential threat to all of humanity.

Zeke is able to expose the Tybur family for their lies, but then also use their influence against their own cause by turning their rallying cry into a targeted attack.

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Zeke's Conspiracy - Yelena, the Anti-Marleyan Volunteers, the Marleyan Prisoners & the Tainted Wine:

In 851 on behalf of Zeke, Yelena had recruited many members into her Anti-Marleyan Volunteers group and with Zeke's help they had infiltrated the Marley military and were stationed on the first of Marley's survey ships sent to Paradis. When these ships from Marley were apprehended by Paradis, the ships' contents were taken as well as their crews. These survey ships were heavily stocked with rare high-quality Marleyan Wine which had been laced with Zeke's Spinal Fluid.

Over the three years Yelena spent on Paradis, she lobbied for the rights of Marleyan Prisoners who were proven to be non-hostile towards the Eldians of the island. Yelena was able to convince Paradis' military to allow the cooperative Marleyan Prisoners to have jobs so that they weren't stuck imprisoned for the rest of their lives on the island. One of the main places these Marleyans were placed was in restaurants.

It was later revealed that Yelena had directed the Marleyans working there to serve the wine specifically to the Paradis military officers and leadership. Once made aware of this the Paradis military had no choice but to surrender as to not risk provoking Zeke to transform them all into Pure Titans using his titan powers.

Commander Pyxis commands all military personnel who had ingested the tainted wine to relocate to the recently evacuated Shiganshina District so as to prevent any collateral damage if they were transformed into Pure Titans.

In theory; once Zeke has euthanized the Eldians, the people left to receive the majority of the outrage from Paradis is of course the Anti-Marley Volunteers. The Volunteers' entire purpose for supporting Paradis in the first place was the belief that they'd be helping the Eldians overthrow Marley's colonial superpower that had captured their own home nations.

The other people left with nothing are the Marleyan PoWs who had been cooperating with Paradis and then, knowingly or otherwise, helped Yelena double-cross them. The irony of course is that this only led to be double-crossed themselves when they inevitably become the target of Paradis' retaliation for having mass sterilization forced onto them.

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Zeke's Conspiracy - Kiyomi Azumabito, The Azumabito Clan & Hizuru:

Zeke had used information gathered by Reiner while he was undercover on Paradis for 5 years to discover the Azumabito's connection to Paradis; Mikasa Ackermann.

The Azumabito had been the ruling clan of Hizuru before The Great Titan War. The eastern nation was an ally of the Eldian Empire, however when Karl Fritz coup'd his own empire and caused its collapse, Hizuru lost all its status as well. The Azumabito Clan was cast out as they were the closest to the Eldians, losing favor within their own nation. At the time of the war's end, Hizuru's leader; the Shogun, was forced to leave behind a child on Paradis while fleeing the chaos.
The child of the shogun would go on to pass down the Azumabito family crest to each new generation for over 100 years until Mikasa received the crest from her mother on the day of her parents' murder. The day she first met Eren.

While Zeke and Reiner had no way of identifying if Mikasa was specifically of the Shogun's bloodline and not just of Hizuru descent, the possibility of finding a long lost descendant was enough to entice Kiyomi and the Azumabito.

Zeke took advantage of the Azumabito's current low status in Hizuru and their financial struggles to convince them to agree to his terms. Zeke's conditions for their cooperation were that they not be willing to negotiate with other nations on Paradis' behalf, and they were not to accept Paradis offering anything less than a total monopoly of their resources by Hizuru. This would prevent Paradis from using Hizuru as a diplomatic channel with which they could negotiate trade and diplomacy with Marley or other nations outside of Zeke's conditions.

Zeke successfully uses the Azumabito's greed, pride and circumstances to make them act as allies to Paradis while also preventing them from seeking out peaceful alternatives. Paradis is trapped with no choice but to go along with Zeke's plan. The Azumabito are themselves double-crossed as all their effort put into modernizing Paradis becomes meaningless once the Eldians cannot have children and the world can no longer threaten conflict with them. Their involvement in Zeke's plot would naturally make them the target of Paradis' retaliation.

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Historia's Untimely Pregnancy:

After being in contact with Yelena, Eren contacts Historia and recruits her into their grand conspiracy by having her resist inheriting the Beast Titan so that Zeke is not immediately eaten once he arrives on the island. Eren suggests that Historia either fights against the Military's decision or that she goes AWOL herself to prevent them forcing her to become a titan.

Historia instead decides to fall pregnant early. This allows her to maintain the guise that she is cooperating with Paradis's military and the 50 Year Plan/Modified 50 Year Plan. By becoming pregnant Historia forces the military to delay having her inherit Zeke's Beast Titan until after she gives birth, which affords Zeke a month or so on Paradis with which the rest of the plan is able to fall into place.

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Floch's Jaegerist Uprising:

While Floch was not in support of Zeke's plan, at Eren's request Floch cooperated with Yelena and began sowing discord amongst the military. Floch gathered like-minded military dissidents and their numbers grew without ever being detected.

When Eren and Zeke were extracted from Marley following the attack in Liberio, Floch began making moves to activate the Jaegerist Uprising. First he did this by leaking information about the Liberio attack and Eren's subsequent imprisonment to the Paradis public, twisting public opinion against the military. Hange had Floch and three other Scout recruits detained for this act of insubordination, however Floch had already organized for 3 other Scout recruits to plant a bomb that would assassinate Premier Dhalis Zachary.

In the aftermath of the assassination the Jaegerists escape from prison and desert the military ranks along side Eren who breaks free of his own prison cell using the War Hammer Titan's power.

With Eren free and on the move to contact Zeke, the Jaegerists take control of Paradis with the threat of Zeke's spinal fluid wine.

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Using the Founding Titan:

The plan to use a Limited Rumbling to neutralize the incoming Global Alliance's full assault on Paradis remains mostly unchanged, however this will be done with Eren and Zeke instead of Eren and Historia.

In addition to this, Eren and Zeke will command the Founding Titan to sterilize all Subjects of Ymir so that they can no longer produce children. This will cause the bloodline of Founder Ymir to die out non-violently within approximately 100 years, allowing the world to continue on having the threat of titans been entirely erased from existence.

Once Historia gives birth, her child will be among the last generation of Subjects of Ymir to be born, and will likely live to be among the last left alive. So long as Paradis continues to pass on the Founding Titan and Beast Titan to willing hosts until those 100 years are over, then Historia and her child do not need to inherit the Beast Titan except in the case of an unforeseen emergency that requires another use of The Founding Titan's unlimited power. The threat of one of them inheriting the Beast Titan and contacting the current host of the Founding Titan allows them to maintain the deterrent of The Rumbling if necessary. This shouldn't ever be required however as the Limited Rumbling done by Eren and Zeke entirely removes the military capability of all other nations in the world, which leaves Paradis safe from attack for those 100 years.

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Eren's Global Rumbling Plan -

Having seen his own future in his father's memories 4 years earlier at the medal ceremony following the Scouts' victory over the Warrior Unit in Shiganshina, Eren began trying to find ways to change this future he did not want to accept. However at each and every turn as the events of those 4 years unfolded he would become more and more dissatisfied with the options available to them.

He would later learn that Zeke and Yelena had set up Paradis to be double-crossed long before any of them had any suspicion that their new allies were not working towards the same goal as them.

Eventually events would play out that leave Eren with no choice but to do the things he had seen himself do in those memories. He did them not because they were literally the only possible path forward, but rather because they were the best path forward he could take to get what he ultimately wanted.

Unacceptable Terms & Conditions:

Eren was unwilling to force Historia to be turned into a Titan-Shifter and have her life limited to 13 years. He was also unwilling for her to be forced to produce as many children as possible for the sole purpose of having her royal bloodline continue to cannibalize their parents in order to maintain the Beast Titan within their family.

Paradis asked Hizuru to help them make contact with other nations and attempt diplomacy & trade instead of threatening war and global destruction, but Hizuru was unsuccessful. Zeke had already agreed on behalf of Paradis to allow Hizuru a monopoly on Paradis's Iceburst Stone reserves and their other highly valuable resources.

When Eren learned Zeke's true intentions to sterilize all Subjects of Ymir, he knew in his heart that he could never accept that path. However he was stuck with no choice but to go along with Zeke's real plans until the opportunity to double-cross Zeke arose.

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Eren; an Accomplice to Zeke's Conspiracy:

When Yelena revealed to Eren that all of the Paradis military leadership and officers had already ingested the Marleyan Wine tainted with Zeke's spinal fluid, he was unable to rebel against Zeke's plans without risking the lives of hundreds of Paradis's most experienced soldiers and the governing body that maintained order on the island on behalf of the crown. Additionally if at any point Eren admits his refusal to go along with Zeke's plan, then Zeke can simply reveal his conspiracy to Marley and use the wine's distribution to capture Paradis for Marley with minimal resistance.

Eren complies with Yelena and agrees to meet Zeke in Liberio after deserting the Scouts while they are infiltrating Marley shortly thereafter.

In order to gain access to the Founding Titan's power, Eren needed to play along with Zeke's scheme. This required him to do many things he did not want to do, including allowing the military to be turned into Pure Titans, killing innocents in Liberio, putting his friends in harm's way, causing some of them to be killed in the process, and hurting Armin & Mikasa in the some of the most personal ways possible.

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Eren's True Plan - The Global Rumbling:

Once Eren and Zeke made contact and were transported to The Paths, Eren revealed to Zeke that he had not planned on helping him euthanize the Eldian people. Zeke had predicted this and had his own double-cross ready, however Eren's memories of his own future seen within Grisha's memories all played out the way he had seen they would, and in the end Eren was able to convince Founder Ymir to give him control of the Founding Titan's full power.

Eren immediately used this power to undo all of the hardening on Paradis, which released all of the hundreds of thousands/millions of Wall Titans laying dormant. He announced to all Subjects of Ymir that he will eradicate all life outside of the island by having The Rumbling trample and burn the entire outside world flat.

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Floch and the Jaegerists:

Before meeting with Yelena, Eren tells Floch the truth of his own plans and has Floch agree to play along with Yelena and Zeke, all the while knowing they would betray them once Eren could use The Founding Titan.

Eren told Floch about his plan to do a Global Rumbling, and left Floch to take control of Paradis and to deal with Zeke's loyalists who had planned to betray the island with the Eldia Euthanasia Plan.

It is unclear if Eren knew to what extent his friends would attempt to stop him, but anything he did know he did not tell Floch. Floch and the Jaegerists would attempt to stop the Scouts & Warriors from leaving the island with the Flying Boat and the Azumabito Engineers, but they would ultimately fail and Floch would meet his end.

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Ending the Curse of the Titans:

At the Medal Ceremony 4 years earlier, along with the memory of him committing The Rumbling, Eren had also seen the result of a choice Mikasa would make. This choice would bring about the end of the Power of the Titans, and so Eren knew he had to keep moving towards the moment that memory arrived.

Eren did not know what danger his friends would be put through when they inevitably opposed him, nor did he know which, if any, of them would even survive. Eren believed that he would have done what he did even if he hadn't known he would eventually be stopped.

Historia was horrified to learn of Eren's intentions, and attempted to reason him out of going through with it. Eren would not be swayed from his path, and so he threatened to have her memory wiped if she could not handle knowing the dark future that approached. In the end Historia accepted her role as Eren's accomplice and told no one what she knew was going to happen 10 months later.

And so Eren meets his end at the hands of his beloved Mikasa, taking Founder Ymir and the Curse of the Titans with him. All of the Eldians who had been transformed into titans regained their human bodies, including the Wall Titans restore 111 years after they were originally turned, and the remaining Titan-Shifters and their families at Fort Salta.

He leaves behind only a fraction of the world's former population, with much of the planet's surface turned into a wasteland hellscape. What remained of humanity outside the island was reduced to the same level of technological progress as Paradis, so neither side would be able to immediately dominate the other with more warfare.
This outcome was not the one Eren wanted for his loved ones, but it is the one he gave them.

The planet would heal in time, humanity would rebuild. The survivors on both sides of the conflict would now need to put down their arms and instead choose diplomacy, trade, and peace.

However, peace only lasts as long as the people choose to maintain it, and so for at least a few hundred, possibly a few thousand years peace was maintained. But like all things, conflict is never truly gone from the world. It only takes one person not learning from past mistakes for the cycle to begin again.

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I’m crying

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Question about the Beyond the Walls World Tour

Are Sawano and Yamamoto part of the orchestra? I suppose they played the dates in Japan, I was wondering if they will take part to the world tour.

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2024/12/01
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“Ilse’s Notebook” OVA in one meme

This OVA is wild. Hange almost kills Oruo like three times, Levi threatens her for endangering his squad, and then he, Petra, and Oruo go shopping for a new broom. 😆 This is the kind of content I crave!

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2024/12/01
03:01 UTC

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Figurine

Didn't have anyone to show my new figurine too so thought I'd post it here

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2024/12/01
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Just Started Watching

I haven't really watched much anime before, so I don't know if all of them are this good or AOT is special. BUT HOLY CRAP is it insane!

I just started watching and got to the point where Eren gets eaten. I was kinda mad that they made pretty much the whole group get picked off without really showing them fighting back and getting any of the titans, which is kind of a bummer after watching the training episodes, but oh well. Also, does he stay dead? I feel like he had too much plot armor to get killed off that quickly.

Any suggestions for watching the rest of the series or similiar animes?

Also, does the gore get much worse? Up until now, it hasn't been to bad but I usually don't like that much.

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Did eren really become free? Did he really manipulate people like his father or was it him manipulating himself?

Someone tell me if Im wrong but i have this suspicion that none of the 9 titans wielders really have any freedom over anything they do. This could be explained from ymir being a slave and technically being the first titan.

However, near the end its revealed that eren used his powers to basically manipulate kruger to giving grisha titan abilities, then eren manipulates grisha to kill frieda and the rest of the kings lineage. We also have zeke who just wants to end all suffering by euthanizing eldians. In my mind atleast this would be the only choice for true freedom in the show. However eren gets everything he wants and eventually I dont think he ever became free. He let himself get so consumed on the journey to be free he does anything to do it.

This eventually enslaves him and at a point all he can do is go forward to "crush the enemy" even though to me its clear he doesnt. Everything leads to one path in the end so what eren decided to do can be assumed to be destined to happen no matter what. As far as im concerned eren couldnt have basically just change the past at his will because if he could do this why not just change everything? He can only manipulate other titan wielders not individual people.

If he could he couldve went back in time and atleast try to influence the eldian king to not attack marley. However eren cant necessarily influence peoples decisions beyond trying to manipulate them into doing what he wants, not directly pupeteering people. In fact I believe its the founder thats pupeteered thats why erens form kind of looks like a puppet.

I guess I wonder if hallu chan and any other parasites like it actually choose to inhabit certain people to influence the future. Maybe these parasites actually have some sort of consciousness and do things however they please, instead of just looking for a host. Maybe this is another reason its said ymir made a deal with the devil. As in todays context you give something up for power. That something could be freedom.

This would also make sense because hallu is the last of its kind. It cant reproduce so it latches onto humans. So it mightve chose to latch onto a slave that would be easier to control.

Or maybe they are created by something else to fulfill this purpose. In the manga things end on chapter 139. representing the curse of ymir and the 9 titans. Some people also say 140 is a japanese number for freedom. So

I feel like the author hints that no one in the anime actually achieves this even though eren set ymir free. I have a suspicion that the author purposely does things like this to hint that everything we see is controlled by something outside of our view. Just like how the founder can show certain memories to people to influence them.

I also find it weird that each titan wielder has some sort of trauma that would inspire them to use the power in the first place. Like the parasite purposefully inhabits people that seem helpless as some sort of plan to ensure that its will is performed. And that it somehow influences who its passed on to. To fulfill whatever guide its set its eyes on.

For example if ymir wasnt the first titan but someone else that didnt choose to obey royalty and instead used its power to kill eldians, how would things change? Is this how things should play out or is it just pure chance. Rarely anything is included in the anime just cause so I find that hard to believe. I was wondering if theres anything about these thoughts that are wrong or just debunked by the anime/manga. Does this make sense or not?

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