Granted the titan wasn't trying to really might down on him but still

https://youtu.be/UkoLhVZgIj8?si=xs9iIwcRdidB4tpe

Seriously tho this is probably the closest thing we’re gonna get to an AoE on par with Isayama’s writing.

I’ve been digging through piles of generic bullshit in Ao3 looking for a fic about Historia’s grandson dealing with Paradis destruction.

It was a short one but I remember it was great. I just remembered it existed but couldn’t find it. If anyone knows which one I’m talking about please help me out

I loved seeing him break down in the Reiss chapel. I loved seeing him be vulnerable. The reason I love Eren is because he’s the exact OPPOSITE of the cool overpowered protagonist. With many others in so many mainstream anime where they’re just given some overpowered abilities in episode one without any power crawl or explanation, this is what set Eren apart from the others. His struggle in his training days were what made me follow him to the very end. Seeing him fail and continue regardless, despite being a hopeless wreck at times, was THE most inspiring thing I’ve seen in any media that I’ve watched.

I loved seeing Eren struggle and break down. That’s what made seeing him finally get his shit together in the Marley arc so satisfying. He WASN’T that angry pathetic little kid anymore. He worked so hard to earn that maturity and that drive. Then out of the fucking blue turns out all of it was for nothing. All that hard work and character development was tossed out the window for the sake of shoving in some breakdown over his love for Mikasa which was never mentioned or foreshadowed before.

Seeing Eren break down over his mother was relatable. Seeing him weak and desperate, begging Reiner and Bertholdt for help with training when all the other cadets made fun of him for sucking at it made me wanna see him succeed. Seeing him be uncertain about his power and even misuse it made me wanna see him learn how to use it. Seeing him bitch and whine over a girl he had never shown any interest in throughout the series made no godamn sense and pointlessly threw away all of that development.

Finally getting to see all of that pay off in season 4 was so fucking rewarding as a reader and a follower of EREN’S story. Not Mikasa’s. Not Armin’s. Not the warriors. This is and always has been Eren’s story. He started it, wrote it and was supposed to end it but I guess he cares more about his friends than his freedom. (Obviously that’s why he tried killing them without even knowing if they’d survive or not lmfaooooo)

Eren earned his maturity. He should have committed to it and kept it. That would have made him one of the very few male anime protags that actually earn their immense power in a believable way, and it all was tossed away for some contrived way to reconcile not being able to change the ending to fit the final draft of the narrative.

Please. Stop using the “You just want Chad Eren” excuse. It’s a cheap way to ignore the actual argument and make your opinion look like the right one. Use your fucking brain and actually tell me why I’m wrong instead of purposefully simplifying the point.

Seeing the Eren Yeager meta theory I think it’s a lot simpler then that.

To this day nobody has a clue why Willy Tybur knew so much or why out of all the Marlian antagonists he was treated differently from the others.

He wasn’t a racist. He wasn’t evil. And most significantly he outlined 1:1 exactly what Eren would do. In terms of foreshadowing he did so in such a way we’d only know in the end everything he said was true.

I believe his entire character was a representation of something. Isayama didn’t know how to make a political war story. Or rather he didn’t want too.

Willy Tybur’s entire purpose was to show hope for a future without the rumbling. Isayama used Eren to show it wasn’t possible. He wasn’t going to write one.

But he knew the risk of his own decision. So he told literally everyone both his characters and us what will happen. A warning.

Eren even said Tybur was right. Isayama rather said the enemy was right. Keep in mind the chapters directly after the time skip was the hardest transition. Only surpassed by the ending being the hardest part of AoT to write.

(Based on statements he made, etc)

So given this information why the hell did Willy tybur explain the ending of AoT exactly how it happened only missing a few minor details.

Well we know that at that point the story could be adjusted. If he noticed people disliked the direction Eren was going he’d probably change things earlier on.

But the fans loved it. We didn’t question what the hell Eren was doing. So neither did Isayama. Not that it is the fans fault but we certainly played a big role in leading to the fucked up ending.

We were a shitty fandom. Plain and simple.

But when it came to the end he didn’t want Eren to do the entire thing. Not because of editors or whatever theory you might have.

It’s because of the very speech he wrote himself. What message did he want to convey? He didn’t want one to endorse the idea of genocide working. Nor did he want to kill off his fan favorite characters.

The Eren we saw in 121 is the same Eren we saw in chapter 95. Nobody has a clue why he killed his mom but remember his reason to Reiner to try to guilt trip him?

The only major issue with all of this in the end was pre-time skip. Eren can’t be a psychopath it doesn’t make sense.

Isayama used ‘to protect my friends’ but at some point it would make no sense. Remember Armin was planning a way to take the founder from eren. His friends knew what he became.

But lastly and most surprisingly remember Ymir was the devil. Tybur said it in his speech and he said Eren was a devil as well.

This is Marley propaganda yet it fit so perfectly with the ending. Because she was. She literally fattened the world with eren for no reason. Mikasa was the answer.

As for historia which many bring up as a clear retcon I think it’s a lot simpler. Eren’s conversation was cut out and the result she got pregnant with a farmer.

Historia freed isayama from his relationship with his father metaphorically speaking.

He chose a farmer because he didn’t know it was a issue he needed to resolve far less important then other sub plots.

Make no mistake. Eren was a psychopath. Tybur or Isayama warned us of this at the very start.

Was it well written? No it betrays pre-time skip completely. But was it well done?

Yes. To the point the majority of fans believe it was Marley’s fault. Everything was Eren and his friends loved the old Eren.

And that is the tybur meta theory

Lesbians have no fear ! YumiHisu is here!!

This is something that just occured to me while angrily thinking of AOT. The specific detail of Eren breaking free by removing his thumb, which is symbolic of his ability to turn into a Titan as he constantly bites his thumb for activation, is possibly a detail that Eren came to Ymir as a person, not as a Titan shifter. This minor thing, to me, shows that Eren's intentions weren't to use Ymir (the 9 titans exist due to King wanting to continue using Ymir) but to show her freedom.

My idea is proven further with the chapter after, where Eren wraps his thumbless hand around Ymir while declaring that she is a human being. Zeke in this moment is a parallel to the King, who views Ymir as a tool and a slave. Meanwhile Eren, a person without royal blood, treats her with the humanity she never got. The specific imagery of a thumbless Eren, an Eren who cannot access his Titan (symbolically and literally; unable to use the Founder Titan), goes down to a human level to free Ymir.

Anyways, thanks for listening to my obviously incorrect observation.

Given the foolish thought that aot was a romance I thought I’d add both my knowledge and charismatic character into the mix to see if I can fuck things up even more.

AOT is a romance everyone are NPC’s except for Mikasa and Eren.

Mikasa whole reason for saying his name so much was she was trying to wake him up out of his isekai dream

But it was fruitless so in the end they had to disconnect the life support keeping him alive and then he died.

Make sense? It should. You media illiterate animals.

The whole song leak for 'Broken Tail' is faked. That's a very clearly a synthesized voice and the melody is about as AI as you can possibly get. I would know as someone whose mother was a music teacher for 33 years, whose sister has been a music teacher for more than a decade now, who played piano for more than a decade, violin for half a decade, drums and guitar and bass for several years, and was paid to sing many, many times. Music is literally my blood.

I can't explain how I know because I'm a terrible teacher. But the song is 100% faked. The melody feels like they just asked AI to rewrite a mix of Itterashai and To You, 2000 Years or whatever the fuck that song was titled as. The voice is obviously synthesized and the melody feels about as fanfiction as it can get.

Someone asked AI to write a song in the style of Linked Horizon, then edited things ever so slightly to sound far more in-line with ANR-esque ideas to troll HopeChads yet again. And all the HopeChads have fallen for it.

I can't write a Linked Horizon song. But I could very easily have written 'Broken Tail'. That's very telling.

At the end when the scene is cut out isayama didn’t know what to do with historia as a character. He was lazy and clumsy leaving his world to doom as Willy tybur warned him.

Many of you may have hoped of something of significance but our scholars can find no better explanation for what he told her.

“Get pregnant or else the M.P’s will use you for your blood and you’ll end up just like the rest of them”

Then proceeding to reveal he killed her family and leaving. As I said he was the devil himself and you didn’t believe me.

The father is irrelevant could’ve been anyone. In short the “Historia” you once knew is long dead ever since Erwin took his last breathe.

You’ve been seeing Krista and that’s all there is to it. Eren has nothing good to say he was forcing her to find someone to breed with to avoid the responsibility of killing her himself.

By mere chance she survived and found someone to live on with. She clearly failed in any way to do a single thing with Erwin’s legacy of making her queen.

The truth hurts but it must be heard.

• Tyburlarions chapter 8 verse 7

For those wondering what historia meant by having a kid she was asking eren but he refused. In the first time in his life he was tempted to beat a woman (other then mikasa)

And which turtle would any of the AOT characters get along with the most?

Really a good read. At the same time quite sad but also pretty fun (talking about the last bit of the chapter) The rumor on what they said about incest happening is just speculation btw, there's one line where a guy wonder if Levi is Kenny illegetimate child but that's all (maybe he banged his sister, maybe not we don't know, I don't care about that).

It was pretry well drawn, a bit brutal but that's a Levi backstory so that's expected plus there's a new meme face to overuse for ten years at least!

I'll put the link in comments

I think this topic is stale so I’m going to add some salt on it to make it a bit more interesting.

As we know the devil himself eren Yeager and Ymir attempted to destroy the world. Only stopped by chance.

Not by the global alliance, or even by Eren himself but by what was called “the source of all living matter” disappearing from the world.

The only facts we do know of is Willy Tybur’s warning to the world. If only we acted sooner.

We are in no position to claim vengeance on the now known “Yeagerist” regime which in a sick twist of irony now furthers Tybur’s warning of the devil to come.

That being said this “Yeagerist” regime has no leader and in roughly 6 generations we will be back to the global population.