/r/phenibut

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Don't take phenibut before you understand the risks and side effects

/r/phenibut is an off-shoot of /r/nootropics. This subreddit is for discussing functional and responsible phenibut use.

Posts and questions about quitting phenibut now belong in the stickied Quitting Phenibut Support Thread

Usage:

Standard dose: 250-500 mg taken one to three times per day, no more than twice per week.

Incrementally increasing your phenibut use is a surefire way to create serious problems for yourself. You will eventually become dependent, and if you're unlucky you could find yourself in a situation where you're unable to prevent nasty withdrawal symptoms. Enough people have already been down that road. Don't take more than 2 grams in a day, don't take phenibut more than 2 times per week.

If you're using powder, you'll need a milligram scale for accurate measurement.

Scoops are designed to transfer powder to the scale. If you use scoops alone it's easy to take 2X too much or too little, which will make anecdotes useless for yourself and others. And it will be more difficult to avoid dependence and withdrawals.

WARNING:

Not respecting phenibut can land you in phenibut hell. (Severe anxiety, panic, suicidal thoughts, psychotic behavior, seizures, nausea, vomiting, etc)

Phenibut Serious Adverse Events list

Going off phenibut cold turkey from a dependent state can cause severe and potentially life-threatening withdrawal symptoms.

Do not mix phenibut with alcohol. Tolerance fluctuates and what may have been safe one day may not be safe the next.

Unless you are already dependent, do not take more than 1500 mg in a single day and do not take more than 750 mg in a six hour period.

Phenibut has a long onset period, so you need to give it several hours to take effect. Wait at least 6 hours before redosing.

NOOFEN (phenibut) leaflet [pages [1], [2], [3]]

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/r/phenibut

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Phenibut very short effect?

I had a long day at uni, then went very hard in the gym and took about 1.5g of phenibut at around 6pm went to a party at 9pm and dosed another 0.5ish g at the party.

I felt absolutely amazing on the drive to the party, like singing in the car and wanting to call some friends and just in a great mood. But as I arrived, the anxiety took over and the effect was gone. Is that normal, did I do something wrong? Is the phenibut shit or what? I ordered in the EU from rawpowders.

5 Comments
2024/05/01
00:36 UTC

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Trying Phenibut against Anxiety and Depression

Ive been struggling with heavy depression and anxiety for years. Been in and out of the ward, psychologist and medication, SSRI´s etc. All kinds of supplements you can imagine. Ive only been trying Phenibut for a week now, taking around 250mg every two days and I could almost cry because of the way I feel. Now of course this might be too good to be true and it might have some adverse side effects and withdrawals but my motivation, anxiety and enjoyment in life has improved a lot. I moved from existing in my dark trashy room to cleaning my room twice a week, sitting outside and enjoying nature, socialising and my sleep heavily improved. I can actually exist now without feeling absolutely miserable. Anyone else has similar experiences or tips and tricks regarding phenibut use as a supplement medication?

14 Comments
2024/04/30
12:53 UTC

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Trafa - do they require signature for delivery?

Hi everyone! So I’m looking for a new one phenibut site and was getting ready to order with Trafa after reading good feedback here on the sub, but I’m seeing on the shipping methods that adult signature is required? I work full time and am not always home, so I’m wondering if anyone who’s ordered from them before can verify that if no one is there to sign for it, will they still leave the package? Or do they end up sending it back? They said they also won’t refund the shipping if they have to send it back either :(

Also if this is the case, does anyone have any other good recommendations other than Sciencebio or PureRawz? Thanks!!

15 Comments
2024/04/30
01:09 UTC

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Can Phenibut permanently reduce anxiety ?

I have been taken Phenibut for about 4 months (1-2 times a month at most) and I turn into a socializing beast. Making Friends with complete strangers and being very likeble.

I used to have very high Social Anxiety when I was by myself always thinging about how I look and what other people think.

But now after I have taken Phenibut a couple of times its almost completely gone even when off Phenibut.

Could Phenibut have reduced it or is it just my Brain getting used to Social exposure while on Phenibut and it carrying over when I am off it ?

48 Comments
2024/04/29
18:10 UTC

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Good Vendor for EU?

I`m located in Austria...its hard to find a good supplier. Any tips? found venords but the wont deliver all across Europe

7 Comments
2024/04/29
17:53 UTC

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Hangover from Phenibut

When i take Phenibut for anxiolytic effects (i tried dosages between 0,4g and 3,9g with no real differences between those dosages) I always have hangover feelings the day after. My legs feel tired like i was walking 10h nonstop and i have less desire to eat. Anyone noticed something similar? I had this feeling even when i took 0,4h phenibut hcl before going to sleep and woke up like i have a hangover.

1 Comment
2024/04/29
17:34 UTC

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Phenibut = restless legs

It is just me or 1-2g of Phenibut give me weird sensation in the legs, kind of restless leg, and that’s about it.

Ordered from Venogen.

10 Comments
2024/04/29
17:11 UTC

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How does cold shower in morning with phenibut impact it?

I wonder how they would be with each other first thing in morning and cause impact

13 Comments
2024/04/29
01:41 UTC

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If phenibut is taken sublingually, does it matter if you eat soon after?

If I take phenibut FAA under the tongue, will eating soon after it’s absorbed affect its onset and my ability to feel the phenibut?

13 Comments
2024/04/29
00:41 UTC

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Phenibut-uk quality?

Hi fellas, been taking phenibut for around 7-8 years now, for the past 3 years i was using Nootropicsdepot and the quality was great until it stopped selling it, im now down to my last few grams from my 250g tub of it so bought a 10g sampler from phenibut-uk and tried it a few days ago and i have to say i was pretty disappointed, the effect is there but seems pretty week, that sedating anti-anxiety effect i got from nootropicsdepot also wasnt there, im going to try it again this week maybe i was having a off day but for the UK folks on here whats your opinion of phenibut-uk's quality?, Cheers.

9 Comments
2024/04/28
20:58 UTC

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First time with Phenibut for someone prescribed Adderall

Recently got my order from Eden Grows, and am wanting to try it for the first time, along with my prescribed 20mg IR adderall. I’m 5’10 115lbs. What would be the best way to do this? FTR I’m generally pretty sensitive to psychoactive substances, a lightweight if you will.

My partner wants to try as well, is also prescribed 20mg adderall, same height as me but about 40 lbs larger. Would they want to take a larger dose of Phenibut?

Will we seem noticeably inebriated to other people? Like for instance, would a family member be able to pick up on the fact that we are under the influence of something we aren’t normally?

Any advice is super appreciated!

14 Comments
2024/04/28
00:08 UTC

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Anybody else get a nastier rebound anxiety from regrow?

I’m running low on my stash of lm. So I tried eg and it the next day I felt hungover and the lack of motivation was way worse than normal. Tried it a few times and it was the same each time. I have tried SB yet but I hope it’s better

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2024/04/27
22:44 UTC

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For someone who has been taking it every other day for a few (3-4) months how long for tolerance to get (relatively) back to normal?

I understand that I probably won’t get the same magic from when I started. It got out of hand and my tolerance got up to 8g every other day. Yeah yeah yeah, I know, stupid 🤷🏻‍♂️. I’ve been off it for 10 days now and I’m planning on going at least another month. Do you think if I could wait that long 3g might do the trick?

15 Comments
2024/04/27
22:39 UTC

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Baclofen + Phenibut

I'm seeing a lot of information on using baclofen to taper off phenibut... BUT... suppose I'm already on baclofen, daily, for years now, and want to take some phenibut... having a really tough time finding info on that... anyone?

12 Comments
2024/04/27
18:57 UTC

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Phenibut no effects at really high dosages.

Hello! I recently bought phenibut and i dosed 2.5g for the first time with no effects. I can dose like 3.5g and redose 3.5g after few hours without any effects. Like yeah i feel the classic GABA dizzines n shit but nothing how everyone describes it. Also i dont enjoy alcohol and benzodiazepines. I enjoyed 1.4-BDO but tbh it was hit or miss too. Sometimes it didnt do anything. Anyone just know what should i do. Should i dose like 7g in one go to feel good?

15 Comments
2024/04/27
16:36 UTC

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Just out of curiosity, why doesn’t LiftMode do the Science approach of “not for human consumption”

Either with a new company or revamping LiftMode. Everyone loved them so much i’m shocked they just gave up

25 Comments
2024/04/27
15:45 UTC

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NL vendors quality

(I take it vendor discussions are allowed here, if not please remove)
I bought some phenibut from Next Valley and it seems noticeably weaker than what I previously got from sportpoeders.nl (who unfortunately stopped selling it). The texture is also different, it is much more powdery, like fine sand, whereas the previous batches I had were fluffier and it stuck to itself / clumped easily. Unfortunately I get GI issues from phenibut in higher doses so just taking more is not really an option.

Does anyone have recommendations for other vendors? I only really see it being sold at research chemical vendors for much higher prices than I am used to (25g for the same price I used to pay for 100g), but would still be willing to pay the premium to get the quality I am used to.

10 Comments
2024/04/27
13:20 UTC

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Phenibut + limited amounts of alcohol = something with effects that are very similar to GBL (in my experience so far)

I've recently discovered phenibut, and am in the process of working out optimum doses and combos.

The effect I enjoy the most is the significantly enhanced enjoyment and immersiveness of music.

First time I tried it a couple of months ago, I combined it with Kratom, which greatly increased my enjoyment of music. Something which I already love, but have to be in the right mood for. For some reason the kratom + phenibut combo no longer works, for me, but man does alcohol ever work or what!? I only need like 1 beer on top of the phenibut for the musical enhancement effects to launch and they are great. The combo is the next best thing to GBL that I have found to this point.

I don't drink a huge amount, just say 1 beer per hour, something at that kind of rate to keep topping up is plenty for me. Next time I'll try working out the optimum doses of phenibut plus alcohol, but I'll go quite carefully as I did notice some dizzyness when the combo had me dancing around my house last night.

I gather than alcohol plus amphetamines creates it's own unique and special pro-drug in the brain, and I'm sensing that phenibut plus alcohol does something similar.

Has anyone else found this, or heard about it?

GBL is probably my favourite substance ever but it's difficult to obtain these days in the UK. So finding a cheap, legal, and easy to acquire replacement in the form of phenibut is like a gift from the gods to some extent.

I need to try to use phenibut for it's positive effects, like the massively increased enjoyabilty and immersiveness of music. It also makes me more sociable and interested in people. Kind of reversing some aspects of my Autism in that regard.

An effect which I don't see as so positive is the effect on libido. It makes me so lecherous, which is not something I see as a good thing. So far each time I've wasted too much time looking up things to get off to on the internet, something which I don't see as a good or positive use of time in any way, and which kind of depresses me.

I should probably knock one out before I use phenibut next time, that way I'd be far less likely to have any interest in such activities, and instead can get straight down to the good stuff, like drinking alcohol and listening to music.

30 Comments
2024/04/27
11:41 UTC

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Phenibut feels better on lithium?

Hey, so I used to be on lithium. When I would take phenibut on lithium I would get extremely social and happy and would also have 0 negative side effects. Since getting off lithium I don’t get as social and get barely any euphoria I was wondering if this is because I got off lithium or if it is something else.

11 Comments
2024/04/27
11:02 UTC

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4 times experience

Hi, I like to share my phenibut experience, I'm new to phenibut and like to try it to get horny and euphoric. My tolerance are super low even on benzo, weed, alcohol...etc

1st dose: on 3/4 morning after meal dosing 1 g phenibut hcl combo cialis. feel sick, dry mouth, and nausea after 1 hour, lay down take rest whole day, nausea till night, did'nt feel any euphoric, no stimulate, no horny, just nausea.

2nd dose: 10/4 wait one week later oral 600 mg, cialis, vitamin B complex and a cup of coffee at evening 6:05pm, feel feel the effect in 2 hours. less nausea, dry mouth, sedated, no euphoric, no horny, no stimulate. nothing special.

3rd dose: 17/4 oral 710mg on 11 am with raw ginger powder, cialis, vitamin B complex and a cup of coffee, feel nausea whole day but acceptable, feel the effect after 3 hours, euphoric, stimulated, music is crazy, no horny, dry mouth, finish alot of work in office.

I enjoy driving while listen the music, is very fun, drive like a racer is listen trance music. At night sitting at garden few hours stay on same position listen love song feel empathy, thinking of all ex girl friends, wanna hold them all in my arm. Sleep no problem, horny weird dreams with some one no face or something, i don't know. LOL

next day still feel the effect, confident, talkative, sedated, music is nice but still no any sign of increase libido. overall the experience is good, i like it.

4rd dose 24/4 oral 700 mg with ginger extract powder, vitamin B complex. feel the effect coming in one hour. feel tired, mild nausea, mild sedated, no stimulate, no euphoric, no libido, no dry mouth. listen music nothing specials. disappointed, bored!

My questions is:

1..my dose too low?

2..should i combo with DMHA? caffeine are banned in my country?

3..how to get rid of nausea?

1 Comment
2024/04/27
05:47 UTC

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Question regarding my dosing.

Previously I was using phenibut rather heavy. I realized it began to switch up and I needed to slow down. Just about every other day I was taking phenibut just to avoid the come down and rebounds. To add to that I felt like maybe I wouldn't be the type who gets horrible rebounds.

Now I'd like to start using less and less often.

For tolerance reasons, how would it be dosing 500-700mg in a single dose every other day as opposed to 1.5-2.5 every other day?

Would tolerance decline, stay the same, etc? Would rebounds just be slighgly more tolerable? Will my body be able to continue producing its own gaba more efficiently opposed to 1.5-2.5g every other day?

6 Comments
2024/04/26
23:55 UTC

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Question

I hardly use phenibut. Maybe once every 2 weeks or so. I saw this one post where it said that the more you use it, the more you are permanently altering your brain chemistry. Each time you use it, your gaba receptors are permanently getting depleted and even after the rebound, your brain won't be completely back to normal. Is this true or was this just a fear mongering post that I read??

10 Comments
2024/04/26
17:42 UTC

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All nighter on 3MMC, can i take phenibut (about 500-800mg) to stay awake

Had a great night, but its 7AM and i need go to work soon for couple hours. What else do you recommend?

24 Comments
2024/04/26
05:09 UTC

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Kratom + Phenibut for social setting?

I’ve tried this combo one year ago (0,5g phenibut and 3g Kratom) and I was super tired. I would almost nod off and when I went to sleep I was afraid of forgetting to breath.

I have read many times that this combo is great and I want to ask if maybe the doses were wrong? Should I try it again for a night out to the bars?

8 Comments
2024/04/26
00:35 UTC

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Jealous

I’m jealous of all you guys lol. I’ve seen people say great things about phenibut on various subreddits. Unfortunately… for me; Phenibut gives me anxiety, almost ‘panicky.’ Idk what it is & I can’t tell you my dosage. I got a product from a gas station called “Nirvana.” It had a handful things in it: huperzine, caffeine, Phenibut and two or three more very common compounds (forgot). The total mg of the “propriety blend” was 800mg. So idk exactly how much Phenibut is in it… but yeah. The feeling was quite (very uncomfortable). I was hoping I could replace my Kratom usage with it, and use it occasionally. (Been off Kratom for 2 months almost) something to smooth out the edge. I have anxiety and been prescribed benzos before. Welp.. I gave it another shot and bought some off of ☂️ 🧪. Took a small dose of 150+/-? Maybe I’m just sensitive to it? Idk. What do you think, any input?

8 Comments
2024/04/25
23:50 UTC

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Has anyone tested trafapharma?

Curious if anyone actually verified their certificate of analysis results

13 Comments
2024/04/24
22:43 UTC

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There is no way phenibut is still the same

I’ve been doing phenibut off and on for a decade. When i first heard about it, it was a total miracle drug. Used it for a while. took a break for a few years until 2020ish or whenever the stuff went out of stock everywhere. since that time i’ve tried three different batches from lift mode, science bio (F phenibut), and nootropics depot. They ALL feel like a completely different dirty horrible version of phenibut. I’ve shared it with my friends who have tried it before too and they agree its just not the same. Most of them make me feel sick and the anxiety relief feels more like my brain is just shut off than anything. The F phenbut from science bio did absolutely nothing but make me sick in every dose.

I simply do not believe these companies are selling the same stuff or that its the same purity. I want to try another batch and find the old stuff that turned any shitty day into an amazing one. No i do not just have a tolerance now.

Does anyone still sell OG phenibut anymore???

101 Comments
2024/04/23
23:48 UTC

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burman’s… not a fan

the 500 mg capsules, every time they give me a minor headache and fatigue. definitely my least favorite vendor i’ve used since i began in 2015

8 Comments
2024/04/23
21:42 UTC

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Pure Rawz are scammers.

I ordered from them nearly a month ago. They were quick to take my payment, after a week I didn’t receive any tracking number. Every week I check in, they asked me to wait until the end of last week before canceling my order and issuing a refund and I did. After receiving no update I sent an email today… they said they’ve already cancelled the order and will keep me posted on a refund… I doubt I’ll get it. I’m going to report them to the BB. DO NOT ORDER ANYTHING FROM THIS SITE.

33 Comments
2024/04/23
20:37 UTC

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