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Don't take phenibut before you understand the risks and side effects

/r/phenibut is an off-shoot of /r/nootropics. This subreddit is for discussing functional and responsible phenibut use.

Posts and questions about quitting phenibut now belong in the stickied Quitting Phenibut Support Thread

Usage:

Standard dose: 250-500 mg taken one to three times per day, no more than twice per week.

Incrementally increasing your phenibut use is a surefire way to create serious problems for yourself. You will eventually become dependent, and if you're unlucky you could find yourself in a situation where you're unable to prevent nasty withdrawal symptoms. Enough people have already been down that road. Don't take more than 2 grams in a day, don't take phenibut more than 2 times per week.

If you're using powder, you'll need a milligram scale for accurate measurement.

Scoops are designed to transfer powder to the scale. If you use scoops alone it's easy to take 2X too much or too little, which will make anecdotes useless for yourself and others. And it will be more difficult to avoid dependence and withdrawals.

WARNING:

Not respecting phenibut can land you in phenibut hell. (Severe anxiety, panic, suicidal thoughts, psychotic behavior, seizures, nausea, vomiting, etc)

Phenibut Serious Adverse Events list

Going off phenibut cold turkey from a dependent state can cause severe and potentially life-threatening withdrawal symptoms.

Do not mix phenibut with alcohol. Tolerance fluctuates and what may have been safe one day may not be safe the next.

Unless you are already dependent, do not take more than 1500 mg in a single day and do not take more than 750 mg in a six hour period.

Phenibut has a long onset period, so you need to give it several hours to take effect. Wait at least 6 hours before redosing.

NOOFEN (phenibut) leaflet [pages [1], [2], [3]]

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/r/phenibut

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Legality in the states?

Ordered from Venogen. Package status has been in “customs retention/investigation”. Should I be worried? Did my research and phenibut seems legal in the state I’m in, but then again I’m not 100% sure

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2024/12/02
03:48 UTC

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Phenibut before work

Would you guys recommend taking Phenibut before work? I work in Sales and talk to a lot of people all day I don’t necessarily deal with any anxiety and I’ve never taken Phenibut before but I am curious as to what it feels like. Any recommendations would be great lol

3 Comments
2024/12/02
01:42 UTC

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My first experience

Last week, on Sunday November 24th, for the first time I tried pregabalin (I had read that it is similar to phenibut and others like it) so I consumed 300 mg of pregabalin at 2 P.M. The effect was incredible, I felt it around 4 P.M, and at 7 P.M I went to work, I still felt the potency of the effect. I felt a very euphoric feeling similar to mdma, I wanted to talk to my co-workers and I felt very good about myself, euphoria and energy, I felt drunk but at the same time sober and happy, the social anxiety disappeared and I became social. And the best of all is that I feel that it lasted many hours that effect, I felt incredible.

Ok, After that day I didn't use anything until the following Sunday. Yesterday Sunday December 1st, I took my first dose of 1.2 g of phenibut. I took it an hour before I left for work, at 4 PM. After several hours, I felt a slight spike of energy and some elevated mood but very subtle, same as the caffeine, no big deal, after that I didn't feel anything, I definitely I thought phenibut would take the crown as the most pleasurable, but for me pregabalin took the crown.

But I would like to know why I felt little with phenibut, maybe I should use a higher dose like 2g? and how well do phenibut and pregabalin complement each other, can I use them at the same time?

2 Comments
2024/12/01
21:32 UTC

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NOT FEELING MUCH (OR ANYTHING) – FIRST TIME DOSING.

Last week I bought 25g of Phenibut FAA (raw powders) for the first time. Today I dosed somewhere between 240-260mg (capsule) with the intention of overcoming the social anxiety to approach women. I took the dose like an hour after eating with some coffee. I drove to the best place in the city to try this supposedly cheat code to tap into the social-god mode and nothing.

If I felt something, then it was so subtle that it could have easily been just placebo. These symptoms (may) have included a reduction in the negative thought pattern, not that much thinking what people will think and a reduction in the risk perception (mainly while driving). All of this, if it was the phenibut, in a very subtle way.

I have not achieved that idgaf state where I can easily talk to the girls and I have not been able to overcome the thought pattern that leads to not taking action when a hot babe passes by, even if she looks or shows interest.

5 Comments
2024/12/01
20:55 UTC

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Phenibut UK..wtf is going on?? Last week barely felt it, this week it's hit me like a truck

Anyone have any issues with consistency from phenibutuk? At first I was skeptical cus Charles is great etc but wtf?'

21 Comments
2024/12/01
09:34 UTC

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Anyone else think gabapentin is superior

Imo gaba is much better. Phenibut is nice but i feel gaba has a stronger anxiolytic effect and better relaxation + nerve pain relief. Phenibut also gives me a weird sensation that i need to stretch really bad. Anyone else ?

38 Comments
2024/11/30
21:26 UTC

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Trying again: dosage?

New to phenibut and did 300mg, 600mg, and 1.7mg my first three times. I didn’t feel anything except maybe some music enhancement on the last dose. Was planning on dosing 2 this time but wanted to hear what others recommended. The first 3 times were back to back 3 days straight. Didn’t experience any sort of rebound effect at all. It’s been 2 weeks since my first dose.

4 Comments
2024/11/30
19:44 UTC

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What do yall mean when Phenibut loses its magic

29 Comments
2024/11/30
19:22 UTC

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DO NOT ORDER FROM RCD.BIO! (PureRawz in disguise) (SCAM ALERT)

Ordered Phenibut and other items for $282 on August 29th with $15 USPS shipping. Without my consent GlobalPost was used, and it's now November 30th nothing arrived yet.

When asking about my package if it is lost or if returned to them it they told me “did you purchase insurance?” Which they made ZERO mention of. So they just made up some bullshit excuse not to reship or refund me.

After numerous emails to them that get ignored, they, out of pity, said they will reship only one item from my whole order If I pay an additional $42!

Basically they ripped me off and asked for more money if I wanted a reship. As of now they won’t respond after I asked for an invoice before making the payment, which they would scam if I sent without an invoice.

When I actually received their Phenibut, it was the most awful thing from the 10+ vendors I used. It had a gasoline smell, absolutely no effect even after dosing 11g, felt sick, horrible, even BodyShock had better quality than them. Overall just bunk quality and doubt it’s actually Phenibut.

have a look

They almost scammed me when I received their Phenibut too

Ps: They are actually PureRawz in disguise.

13 Comments
2024/11/30
12:46 UTC

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Where to order

For research purposes obviously. I hear about science bio and Swiss chems but then you hear sketchy things about them. What's a good reputable source?

4 Comments
2024/11/30
05:47 UTC

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Music Enhancement

Probably my favorite aspect of this drug. If MDMA was a level 10 on music enhancement i would give phenibut a 7 or 8. I also notice it seems to be more noticeable the next day.

4 Comments
2024/11/30
00:26 UTC

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Has anyone ever tried Tolibut?

Was just reading around about F-phenibut pharmacology bored on lunch and saw it mentioned, where instead of fluorine there is a methyl group. Has anyone ever tried it? I’ve never seen it mentioned on this subreddit

8 Comments
2024/11/29
17:35 UTC

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Does anyone else take high doses?

Most people I see here are taking low doses (less than 2g).

It's not a lot at least to me. Doses under 2g give me a mood boost, less anxiety, music enhancement. But, sometimes I want to get that drunk-ish feeling and I can take up to 4g (4g was my max but usually it's between 2g and 3g).

I'm wondering if anybody else does that.

30 Comments
2024/11/29
15:26 UTC

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Venogen Phenibut HCL Review

Experience: I've used SNS and Liftmode phenibut. I consider SNS to be the goat standard and I miss them very much. Once Liftmode stopped selling, I stopped using it. I have not used phenibut for about a year. Decided to try Venogen. Shipping: It is coming from overseas, but still got to me in 10 days. I would prefer pills, but they do not sell them. I bought a miligram scale to measure the powder. I took 750mg since I had not used it in a while. Empty stomach etc. I got that euphoria I expected. Now, I've used it a few times since. I use once a weekly only. It gives me that familiar feeling and is legit. One thing I will say - I think it is slightly less potent than LifeMode. Your experience may vary, but I usually have to take 250mg more per dose to get the same feeling I'd get on Liftmode phenibut. So if you usually took 750mg on liftmode it'd be 1000mg with Venogen. Would recommend, will buy from them again.

19 Comments
2024/11/29
15:01 UTC

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I don't get the dosages

Hey there, I have a package of phenibut from USA Supplement llc.

It contains 100 Grams and it sais. "1 serving = 1/2 scoops (500mg) Contains 200 servings"

When i put a full scoop on my precision scale it sais exactly 0.5 Grams. If i believe what the package sais my 0.5 grams would contain 1 full gram of phenibut. Am I think wrong Here?

6 Comments
2024/11/29
14:04 UTC

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Want to try

Hey Im in Poland, I basically searched in Google for Phenibut amd there were some results, but no idea which one to try. Would be better to purchase from another country? Is it ok to do so? Afaik its legal here, so I should be able to purchase from abroad, right?

I searched old post looking for Europe and Poland but didnt find anything useful, sorry if it was already answered.

Thanks!

4 Comments
2024/11/29
13:16 UTC

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Been awhile

Been a while since I ordered phenibut..last order was from edengrows(I think) heard mixed reviews. Do they have decent phenibut? Garbage? Any suggestions?

2 Comments
2024/11/29
13:04 UTC

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Does anyone else feel that phenibut makes time appear to pass more quickly?

Well, I’ve noticed on the days when I take phenibut before work or during work that time seems to pass by more quickly, or that I don’t notice time passing as much. Does anyone else experience this effect from phenibut?

11 Comments
2024/11/29
11:37 UTC

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Phenibut-uk: My First Time Trying Phenibut

This isn’t gonna be very interesting but this is how my first experience with phenibut went.

12pm Took 1.5g (3x500mg capsules). I ended up getting them from phenibut-uk via this Charles everybody raves about. I took 1.5g (on an empty stomach) as i’m not exactly skinny and I had also read that his stuff isn’t as strong as some others. I read this after I ordered tbh but we aren’t spoilt for choice when it comes to vendors in the UK. They’re huge aren’t they! I took them with Pepsi as i’d read somebody say taking them with soda helps? I dunno. Let’s see how it goes. Just lounging on the sofa watching rubbish tv, scrolling on TikTok/Reddit.

1:40pm I’m still just chillin, watchin tv. I got a strange feeling in my tummy so I decided to eat some cup noodles and a small bag of crisps. As i’m eating I think I start to feel a come up. I get a mild feeling of euphoria come over me, but it’s gone pretty quick…… although I am left feeling really content and relaxed. Surely it’s too soon. Must be placebo 🤷🏻‍♀️ I feel good enough.

5pm Don’t really feel anything too noticeable tbh. I’m in a good mood but not anything major. I had actually forgotten i’d taken anything for a couple hours. I haven’t felt anything bad so I’m not put off trying again. Today is Thursday so maybe on Sunday i’ll try again with 2g? When I actually stop to think about how I feel, I do feel good. Let’s see how this evening goes. Either way, nothin bad to report 🤷🏻‍♀️

5:15pm Just had a weird shakey, light headed feeling come over me. I feel like you know when ur blood sugars get a bit low and u feel a bit ‘giddy’? Like maybe a little drunk? Im not sure if thats the right way to describe it. Nobody around me would know anything was going on but I just feel…… shakey & ‘weird’ I guess. By 5:25pm i’m fine again.

This morning I just wanna add that I slept very well & just feel like my normal self. Gonna leave it a few days and give 2-2.5g a go.

14 Comments
2024/11/29
08:17 UTC

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How to know if you’re experiencing rebound symptoms?

People here talk all the time about rebound without really detailing the specifics about what they're going through, so I don't know if I'm experiencing rebound now, or if it's just my baseline depression and anxiety or the fact I'm going through a rough period in life.

For context, my gf left me a few months back. Last night I dreamt about her again, got curious, and ended up finding confirmation that she's already officially with someone new for over a month.

Over the last 12 days I've dosed on 7 as I had a particularly busy schedule dating new people, usually 1g each time. I'm about 48 hours since the last dose.

One of the dating prospects is quite promising and yet today I feel very negative about everything in general. But how do I differentiate between what is due to Phenibut rebound vs natural reaction to bad situations vs underlying baseline mood?

8 Comments
2024/11/28
19:26 UTC

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Should I take phenibut for the “first time” today for Thanksgiving or is that too risky

Phenibut for Thanksgiving sound like the move?

I got some phenibut recently I took like 400mg (roughly, scale was ass) and didn’t really feel much.

Tomorrow given that I will be attending family parties the entirety of the day I was thinking of taking like 800-1000mgs ( I got a new scale)

Mostly because I’ve been trying to cut back on my drinking I tend to get pretty wasted at the these events

Does that sound doable or will my family be able to tell that I’m on something? I’m just concerned I’ll look or be tweaked out like a coke high or something

11 Comments
2024/11/28
18:01 UTC

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What is the best way to keep tolerance down?

I have been taking phenibut 2.25g (I need a higher dose to feel it) once a week. I have been taking agmatine 750mg 4 days out of the week to attempt to lower tolerance. Does anyone know of other nootropics that have benefited them in keeping tolerance down or lowering it? Also, will having a couple drinks of alcohol during the day I have Phenibut shoot my tolerance up even more?

9 Comments
2024/11/28
15:52 UTC

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Phenibut killed my sex drive

About a week ago, I took 800 mg of Phenibut. Afterward, I felt very relaxed, almost like I’d taken a benzo—but even better. Throughout the week, I noticed I could fall asleep much faster, but I had a lot of dreams, mostly nightmares.

The problem is, I now have absolutely no libido at all. I was able to force an erection while watching porn, but it didn’t feel good, and the orgasm was very weak. For context: I’m a 24-year-old male, I exercise a lot, have a good diet, and don’t use drugs frequently.

Has anyone else experienced similar issues? This was my second time taking Phenibut.

25 Comments
2024/11/28
14:22 UTC

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Can I use Phenibut FAA as a alcohol replacement?

My question is simple - I’m trying to be sober from alcohol and benzos because I always did some dumb stuff while under influence and It was negatively impacting my relationships.

When I first quit alcohol, I replaced it mostly with stimulants (only during weekends) because I never did anything stupid like when intoxicated with alcohol or benzos. Now I’m sober from everything except Kratom, that I use daily (1 teaspoon in the morning for boost) + 1 teaspoon of instant Kava-Kava (in the morning aswell).

It’s doing a good job in keeping me focused at work, feeling relaxed etc. but I still think about alcohol or benzos because It doesn’t seem to scratch the “need” in my brain that only alcohol or benzos can (GABAa). I know that Kava-Kava works on the same/similar receptors but in a different way so It’s just not hitting the same and the need of “scratch” from alcohol is still there.

I was searching whats similar to alcohol or benzos and ofc Phenibut showed up as the closest alternative to these 2 substances.

My question is this, would it be possible to dose small amounts of Phenibut (like 500mg or less) DAILY with my Kratom in the morning, just to scratch the GABA so I wouldnt think about alcohol that much?

I also forgot to mention that I usually take 1-2 day break from Kratom weekly so displicine wouldn’t be a problem I think.

Please let me know what ya’ll think, Thanks!

8 Comments
2024/11/28
11:37 UTC

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Phenibut hits 10x better when you haven't had kratom in a while (magic is back)

I know a lot of people here are daily users of kratom, but let me just tell you that Phenibut hits 10x better when you've been off kratom for a few days, but the longer, the better. No matter how long I'd stop using Phenibut to hopefully get the magic back, nothing worked. I had thought that maybe the magic does truly go away over time. Well then a few weeks ago I finally wanted to quit my 5 gram a day kratom habit, so I just stopped cold turkey 2 weeks ago. Withdrawals were pretty bad to be honest, but not unbearable. Anyway, I took my dose of Phenibut today and shit y'all, we are so fucking back. The damn near euphoric mania, the sociability, the feel of genuine happiness and content with the world... it's back. I haven't had this feeling since 2021, the same year that I started taking kratom regularly. Why I never made that realization, I don't know, but I know it in my soul that even the small amount of kratom I was taking daily was numbing the full effect of Phenibut, because wow, I just feel amazing. Before quitting kratom I would only get mild anxiety relief, some music enhancement, and a little bit more energy. But now I remember what this wonderful drug is supposed to feel like!

21 Comments
2024/11/28
08:30 UTC

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Dosing 1.5 grams, or more, more than once a week makes me a pessimistic, crying mess

Yet another post on how unpredictable the effects of phenibut can be for each individual.

At least for me, it's really important to dose phenibut only once a week with a single dose larger than ~1500 mg.

A day or two after the second dose of the week I immediately start seeing nothing but failure in my life and feeling frustration and desperation, which I normally shrug off. This combined with the increased libido, that carries over to the rebound, is a torture for someone who's been lonely for years. Goes away in about 3 days.

It's not your normal depressive state where everything is grey and sucks(?), but my negative feelings go on an overdrive. I notice no rebound anxiety, though. I guess the grief is just that powerful you don't care about anxiety.

23 Comments
2024/11/28
05:17 UTC

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Koka vendor?

I recently purchased my first ever tub of capsules from koka. I decided to take 3 capsules or 1,5g and I think i noticed some effects. My question is if anyone has experience with this vendor and if the stuff i’m taking isn’t some junk. I read on here that 200mg gets some people extremely intoxicated. So i panicked a bit but considering that when I took my first dose it was before a driving test and it was my second attempt. In my first attempt I had issues concentrating on what the instructor was saying but on this test, I just fucking destroyed it. I made only one small mistake! Thanks phenibut

So yeah, my question is if this is the real deal or am I still missing out on the full effects?

6 Comments
2024/11/27
16:58 UTC

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Phenibut urine

Hello! I took phenibut for two days ago and I got an upcoming urin test tomorrow, will it show positive for gabapentine or lyrica?

Grateful for some help🥰

21 Comments
2024/11/27
12:51 UTC

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