I'm going to try and explain this as best as I can, and I'm welcome to hearing your thoughts on this!

In Season 1 finale, we see Sylvie kick Loki through a Time-door into a past point in time in the TVA, which Mobius says is impossible as there is 'no time' in the TVA.

From this, we can gather that a definition of time in the MCU is where going into the past doesn't change the present or future, but instead branches off a separate timeline emanating from the changed point.

We see Loki crash the flying car thing into that office-ey area, causing a crack, which exists in the present, as we see when Loki returns to the future. We also see this happen when Loki talks to past OB, and changes to the timeline mean he relays what Loki says to Mobius in the present.

In the TVA, this time travel mechanic doesn't exist, meaning its impossible to branch in the TVA, and means that in the TVA, changing the past does change the future and present.

This is what they meant in Season 1 when they said "Time works differently in the TVA."

Now whether TVA time exists as a single linear-changing event, or some other explanation, I'm not sure, but I do now know the mechanics of time travel in the TVA.

In short, on the Timeline, changing the past creates a new future, whereas in the TVA, changing the past changes the future.

In NOLA for Chewbaccus and just saw this. They printed a trading card for the Krewe of Loki!

So I had originally watched Season 1 when it was released, and I remember watching Season 2, but for the life of me, I couldn’t remember how it ended.

So, yesterday, I went back and looked and I discovered I never watched the FINAL EPISODE! 😑🤣

So I sat down these last couple days and binged both seasons, and holy shit!! what an ENDING! Wowowow

Can't find it, but remember the plot: Loki was practicing teleporting, and Thor n friends thought it'd be a great idea to leave him in a cave-like structure, but forgot about him, and when the rain started, it flooded it and Loki dr0wn4d. I think Thor later meets him once Loki's with Hela and all grown-up?

So I am looking for content that has Loki with his new personality and character arc interacting with other characters in the Marvel universe. It can be angst or memes or anything else. To be honest I would love to see some memes similar to the ones where Peter Parker and Loki interact but now it's with any of the characters and with Loki's new personality. (I say new personality but it's more like He just got more comfortable being himself)

Something I always found hard to wrap my head around with the first season was HWR's claim to mastermind their entire journey. Like how could he possibly do that? Especially when Loki and Sylvie were outside the TVA's grip.

Then on a rewatch I was thinking how utterly inconvenient the timing was on Sylvie's TemPad dying, and how strange it was that Sylvie wouldn't make sure it was charged if it needed such a monumental power source. But what if it didn't actually die on its own? What if Miss Minutes drained the battery (or faked draining the battery) at HWR's direction to push them into falling for each other, thinking they were about to die?

At this point I'm trying to think of other points in the season that could have been discretely driven by Miss Minutes/HWR interference.

I saw a thread that suggested that Loki and Sylvie's relationship was so strong and chaotic that it would have branched no matter what. But that doesn't really make sense to me, there wouldn't be any effect no matter how strong some bond is.

I've been wracking my mind trying to figure out why it would do that (and trying to rationalize instead of calling it a plot hole) and I've come to a possible conclusion: they survive the moon crashing into Lamentis.

Obviously Asgardians have super strength and incredible durability, so it's entirely possible that they managed to survive the cataclysm. We know that Thor has survived floating in space for quite a while, and that the Classic Loki also did the same. Only if the 2 were to survive together and proceed to act together would the timeline branch like so.

Plus, would the TVA be foolish enough to rescue those 2 instead of letting them die? Even if they didn't know exactly what was going on beforehand, they'd see a moon about to crash into them and just let them die if so. They'd only capture the 2 if they knew that the Moon wasn't going to finish the job.

This morning, my family and I were discussing our favorite TV shows. My two favorite shows are Loki and The Good Place, I explained. Both shows are both creative, funny, touching, exciting, and have great interpersonal relationships and character development.

Tonight, after thinking about it more, I suddenly realized the two shows also have... the same plot. Does that sound silly? Hear me out (full spoilers ahead for both shows):

• The protagonist (Loki / Eleanor) is attractive and charming, but also selfish and manipulative. They use bravado to conceal their low self-esteem, and they use scorn to conceal their difficulty connecting with others.
• Some of the protagonist's emotional issues likely arise from having a tough childhood and youth.
• The protagonist's time on Earth comes to an unexpectedly premature end, as a direct result of their selfish pursuit of an object that they wanted (Tesseract / margarita mix).
• The protagonist is abruptly whisked away by a mysterious bureaucracy (TVA / The Good Place) that purports to be working for good, but that is more complex than it appears.
• The bureaucracy's spokesperson is a digital avatar of a female humanoid (Janet / Miss Minutes).
• The bureaucracy forces the protagonist to pair up with someone who is meant to be their enemy (Sylvie / Chidi), but to everyone's surprise - most of all their own - the two of them end up falling in love. Not just a crush, but a profound connection that is a new experience for both of them.
• Surprise! The mysterious bureaucracy is actually evil and needs to be taken down. It turns out they are cynically determining the outcomes of ordinary people's lives, in a way that brings free will into question and gives almost no one a chance of success.
• Fortunately, our protagonist has started to build some meaningful friendships, so they have allies in the fight against this seemingly impenetrable bureaucracy.
• A suit-wearing, middle-aged white man with fatherly vibes (Mobius / Michael), who is initially a key player in the evil bureaucracy, has a change of heart and agrees to help our heroes reform it.
• However, an impeccably dressed African-American judge (Judge Renslayer / Judge Gen) maintains her loyalty to the evil bureaucracy and proves to be an almost insurmountable obstacle. 
• By way of a lot of complicated running around, time travel, trickery, diplomacy, and even library research, our heroes shake the evil bureaucracy to its core and extract the concession that it needs to change.
• However, just when our heroes think they have essentially solved the problem, it turns out that the solution (Heaven / The Loom) is actually another problem. So they have to break through that fake solution and create something better.
• In the end, our protagonist finds themselves profoundly changed by their love for their friends and especially for their significant other, who is their moral compass. They let go of their selfishness and realize that nothing can last forever.
• Our protagonist bids a poignant goodbye to everyone and everything they know, and voluntarily walks through a magical door, never to return. Their essence permeates the universe to make it a better place.

That's my list... can you think of anything to add? 

Just to be clear, my intent is not at all to make fun of either show, as I truly do adore them both. I'm just amused and a little amazed that I never noticed the parallels before.

Loki and Mobius in \"The Variant\" (S1 E2)

Eleanor and Michael in \"The Worst Possible Use of Free Will\" (S3 E8)

Just is there a love interest 😭😭 I love Sylvie, and really want them to end up together, so no spoilers but is there at least a somewhat happy evening for them, and is there a love interest?

Is he holding together every single timeline?

The protocol that was preventing magic was shut down so the infinity stones should also have worked or not?

i’m assuming the answer to this would just be speculation but can loki astral project while holding the branches?? i assume not as he’s probably focusing most if not all of his magic on keeping the branches alive, but i’m curious for opinions. could he project and talk to mobius/sylvie??

For my birthday this year, I asked my family to humor me while I rewatched the first season of Loki. It's my favorite show, but I'd never had a chance to rewatch it since it aired. My nine-year-old son and I watched one episode per night. We had an amazing time!

My toddler alternated between watching Loki with us and watching Paw Patrol in another room. Each time he joined us, he started out by asking "IS LOKI BAD OR GOOD?"

I wanted to reply, "No one bad is ever truly bad. And no one good is ever truly good."

Anyhow, fellow fans... there are so many details I forgot or missed the first time! Here are some thoughts and questions I wanted to share. 

E1, Glorious Purpose:

* While showing Loki around the TVA for the first time, Mobius mentions the TVA's "Nightmare Division." When I saw this episode in 2021, I thought Mobius was kidding, but now I suspect the Nightmare Division is real and is slated to play a big role in the forthcoming TVA comic series!

E2, The Variant:

* How does the apocalypse rating scale work? How can Ragnarok only be a Class 7 apocalypse, while the Roxxcart hurricane is a Class 10? The former destroyed a whole civilization; the latter destroyed a department store. My son thought the "Class 10" designation might refer to a much broader climate disaster that wiped out the whole region, but I suspect that it's actually a backwards scale with "1" being the worst apocalypse (multiversal annhiliation?). 

Asking because I have a family member living through a Class 10 apocalypse in Los Angeles right now...

E3, Lamentis:

* Sylvie is highly experienced with Tempads, so it's surprising she would forget to charge hers. Did using it to set off all those reset charges in Roxxcart (to bomb the Sacred Timeline) drain the battery more than she expected? And what was the point of that timeline bombing, anyway - to distract the TVA so she could infiltrate?

* Where WAS Loki hiding Sylvie's Tempad? ("In my heart." "Well then I'll cut it out.") If he had magicked it into thin air, how did it get crushed when he fell off the train?

* My nine-year-old couldn't sleep that night, because he couldn't bear not knowing if Loki and Sylvie escaped Lamentis. "Lucky you," I said, "you only have to wait a day to find out. I had to wait a week!"

E4, The Nexus Event:

* Was Ravonna telling the truth when she said she didn't remember Sylvie's nexus event? I doubt it.

* What really happened to C-20, anyway? Did Ravonna prune her to avoid her inconvenient testimony? Seems likely, considering that Ravonna didn't even flinch when pruning Mobius.

* When Loki wakes up lying on the grass in the Void, disoriented, he says "Am I dead? Is this Hel?" He seems to have assumed he was destined for Hel. Understandable, but ouch.

E5, Journey Into Mystery: (my favorite!)

*  How big is The Void? It's supposed to be vast, but Mobius, Loki, and Sylvie all got separately dumped into it within walking (or short driving) distance of each other. So how can The Void swallow planets? Or does where you're dumped depend on when you're pruned and what size you are?

* Alioth seems to consume only objects that are foreign to the Void. When Alioth moves over the vegetation (which is presumably native to the Void), he doesn't leave a patch of bare dirt. Perhaps the bobblehead birds are also native species that Alioth does not eat. Do Variants survive in the Void by eating the native species? Or do they not need to eat, because time doesn't pass? 

* Loki says to his fellow Lokis, "It's been a very, very trying past few days. Months? I don't even know." This answers the question of over what time span Season 1 took place: not even Loki has a clue.

* I had forgotten that Mobius offered Kid Loki and Classic Loki a "ticket outta here" and they declined. Maybe they both felt that they deserved this purgatory? RIP, Classic Loki. We miss you.

E6, For All Time, Always:

* As they prepare to enter the Citadel at the End of Time, Sylvie tells Loki, "I was pruned before you even existed." What does she mean by that? She looks younger than him, not way older.

* Miss Minutes got to the Citadel effortlessly, it seems. Can she go anywhere, even the end of time? Can she visit Loki in his time throne (after S2 E6), since he created it from the ruins of the Citadel?

* During the fight in the throne room, Loki teleports himself (not an illusion, but his actual body) in between Sylvie and HWR. I don't remember him teleporting before. Did he learn it from Classic Loki in Episode 5? 

* HWR's large watch seems to be a non-standard Tempad; does he use it to control all of time? Is it connected to his mind? Even if Sylvie and Loki did accept HWR's offer to take over, how would they learn to steer the entire Multiverse with a watch?

General thoughts:

* Natalie Holt's music is so good it hurts. We were all humming the themes afterwards, even my spouse who was cleaning up dinner in the meantime.

* I am unsure how to pronounce "Ravonna." Per English spelling rules, it should be ruh-VON-nuh, but I heard Mobius say ruh-VOE-nuh. It seems to be a made-up Marvel name, so a dictionary doesn't help. 

* Are TVA workers able to biologically reproduce? With so many employees, you'd expect some office romance, and perhaps also some babies. But if not, why not? Have they been psychologically altered not to feel attraction? Or have they been physically sterilized? (Either way, it's unsettling.)

* I had forgotten how relentlessly Loki gets clobbered, physically and emotionally. Although I know it's an intentional part of the story, it's hard to watch. Somebody give the guy a hug already. I had remembered the season finale as being exciting, but this time around, seeing Loki and Sylvie each separately huddled on the floor crying, I just felt awful. Are these guys ever - EVER - going to get a happy ending? (And no, I don't consider Season 2 a happy ending.) 

There is more to say, but this post is long enough. Curious if you shared these questions or observations. Has anyone else done a rewatch recently?

I'm a little envious of my spouse, who is a Doctor Who fan, and who will always get new Doctor Who episodes by waiting a year or so. We Loki fans aren't as lucky!

...Loki is Nonbinary!

This hat came from the heart of Disneyland California itself. Officially licensed merch. Why use Purple and Yellow as it's colors? Easy pease, they are nonbinary primary colors~~~

Change my mind. 😜

Any idea how did loki started time slipping even after morbious and OB took him out of sacred timline and space?

If the Temporal Loom needed The One Who Remains' temporal aura in order for it to be fixed, why then; when Victor Timely was taken to the TVA they needed a whole different elaborate plan to fix the loom instead of using his temporal aura as originally implied?

I'm build a cosplay for him.