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A place to discuss Marvel Cinematic Universe's Netflix shows: Daredevil | Jessica Jones | Luke Cage | Iron Fist | Defenders | Punisher

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The Defenders

In 2013, Marvel announced four new series to premiere on Netflix in 2015. The series (13 episodes each) will focus on four street level crime fighters:

Then they will unite in a new mini-series to become The Defenders!

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What's up with Turk between Luke Cage S2 & Iron Fist S2

Near the end of S2 of Luke Cage we see Turk working at a shop talking about how he's making a boat load of cash and doesn't need to be a criminal anymore, but I'm currently watching S2 of Iron Fist, and guess who Ward & Walker decide to buy guns from... yeah, it's Turk. So I'm confused if there was dialogue I missed explaining why he's selling weapons again, or if the writers just ignored/forgot what he said in Luke Cage S2. Currently my head-canon is that he got fired over that 1 glass Luke broke lmao, but it'd be nice to know if there's a legit reason.

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2024/10/07
16:18 UTC

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What I would love in Daredevil born again season 2.

Instead of the Defenders all being in the show at the same time what I think they should do at first is reintroduce them in individual episodes.

Maybe filming can happen all at once to save money but my ideal set up would be this.

The Hand is looking for Danny. Daredevil finds out about this so he goes looking for him too. He asked Jessica to help him since she is a PI. She points him towards Luke since they have been in contact and she knows he has been working with Danny but he is not answering his phone so they try and find him.

That is one episode.

Luke and Danny have been working together. Heroes for hire. Something happened and the hand have Luke but Danny is not with him. Matt works with Luke and he tells him what they have been doing.

That is another episode.

Matt eventually finds Danny and they have to work together to find the hand while Luke goes back to Jessica.

This is another episode.

In the finale that is when they all are together again.

17 Comments
2024/10/05
00:37 UTC

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Who’s winning this fight?

Round 1 is base form

Round 2 is at full power

107 Comments
2024/09/29
15:47 UTC

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Matt Murdock's use of a cane captures a key experience of disabled people - a short essay

Hello defenders Reddit. I have been thinking about how Matt Murdock still uses his cane, and has admitted to it being an act and two main reasons, that both capture an experience may disabled people can relate to.

The first is that if he was to not use his cane and rely on his abilities every day he would not get supports such as braille, audio description or reasoning to not drive a car as easily. Somthing most people with hidden disabilities experience. An example most can easily understand is someone using disabled seating on public transport when they need it despite the reason not being obvious to others. If people stopped believing Matt Murdock was blind, then he would not be able to be the successful lawyer he is.

The second is how draining and exhausting the world can be and using the hightend senses that daredevil has may be had to maintain. The idea of spoons as a measure of motivation, energy and strength is the real world description of this. As an example of someone was using their arms to use a wheelchair or crutches then their arms would hurt after doing that all day, in comparison to having someone else or a motor move you, or having an able body (working legs).

In multiple scenes he admits to and possibly jokes about his "unessicary" use of assistive resources, such as when he and Karen played pool but this does not mean they don't help him with everyday tasks.

On this point when his hearing and perception is damaged his ability to do tasks such as catching the falling glass is removed.

I hope my thoughts on this are appreciated by other fans as this is something I have thought about and what makes me enjoy the character so much.

Have a great day/night people :)

5 Comments
2024/09/29
01:08 UTC

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How would you place Some Characters of The Defenders they were included in Avengers Endgame for example what do you think their role would of been like during the blip or the portal final battle scene ??

16 Comments
2024/09/26
18:29 UTC

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If the Defenders would of gotten an 2nd season on Netflix if it didn't get canceled what storyline would you have done for that crossover???

58 Comments
2024/09/25
22:24 UTC

6

Which Hall Fight is the best?

1 Comment
2024/09/25
02:52 UTC

76

Who’s the strongest dc character power man can defeat?

30 Comments
2024/09/21
15:41 UTC

251

No one escaped the Murdock charm

42 Comments
2024/09/20
09:45 UTC

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If the defenders were back on the mcu, what characters would you like them to interact with?

(It can be a interaction with specific character, like daredevil, or with the whole team.) I would love to see them, specially matt and jessica, interact with yelena and kate bishop.

9 Comments
2024/09/18
22:26 UTC

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Did Danny know Matt is blind or he just assumed he can see

14 Comments
2024/09/18
19:49 UTC

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How would you react if they announced the main villains of Daredevil: Born Again were the Hand?

11 Comments
2024/09/18
18:02 UTC

165

Who do you guys think Frank and Matt are fighting against in Born Again S1?? Could it be Bullseye or Muse??

32 Comments
2024/09/17
19:17 UTC

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I Loved Iron Fist It should have continued

I just Watched Both Seasons of the show. And while it’s not perfect or on the level Daredevil I really liked it and Loved it at some points. To be fair I may be biased because I’m a big fan of Martial Arts Media as My Favorite Movie as a Kid was Kung Fu Panda and the Karate Kid is one of my favorite movies of all time. And my love for Martial Arts led me to perusing karate and earning my Black Belt and becoming a trained Swordsman. I Thought the fight scenes were fine and some I really thought were great. Most were pretty realistic from a martial arts standpoint. Danny was a cool protagonist Imo his back story is awesome. I enjoyed seeing him have to adjust to the real world after so long in Kun Lun. His attitude is completely understandable as he spent a good part of his childhood being borderline abused and brainwashed by the monks. I also like how Ward developed from kinda an ass into a character I cared about as much as Danny. And Colleen is just awesome and I’m not just saying that because I’m extremely attracted to her. Her story with the Hand and realizing that she was in a cult and her teacher was evil was amazing. Harold was a pretty good villain. Season two was a big improvement and wow Davos was an amazing villain who was reminded me of Tai Lung. His struggle between his code and completing his goals was really interesting. Mary was a pretty cool addition. I loved the Colleen/Misty team up. The set up for season 3 was great and I’m disappointed I won’t get to see more of Ward, Danny And Colleen. I’ve rambled on for too long now but I just really liked the show and would have really liked to see season 3 with Danny in the suit.

73 Comments
2024/09/16
03:48 UTC

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Thoughts on the overall conspiracy surrounding the fallout of Frank Castle's family.

I feel like the Punisher spin-off could have easily gone wrong in development considering how quickly they put it together. But I've always felt that the end product by the end of the first season was really quite thorough.

Taking a step back, a clandestine joint operation between prominent CIA and marine officials run a heroine operation that is being tracked by a corrupt DA's office that inadvertently covers up the onslaught it was involved in -- though that was actually planned by Schoonover, DA Reyes made sure to cover the whole thing up.

That is some seriously convoluted shit to get caught up in.

11 Comments
2024/09/16
01:35 UTC

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Watching through the show for the first time and I gotta say, Karen flipping off Grotto was probably the hottest thing I’ve seen in the MCU 😂

2 Comments
2024/09/15
18:01 UTC

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Defenders Return in Born Again???

Since there has been discussions and Rumors The Defenders reuniting together in Born Again Season 2 most likely,How do you think Marvel should reintroduce Jessica jones Luke Cage and Iron Fist reuniting with Matt since it has been 7-8 Years we last saw them???

34 Comments
2024/09/14
17:11 UTC

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In retrospect, it's shocking how close Matt came to having his first encounter with Fisk here

12 Comments
2024/09/13
02:14 UTC

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Jessica jones as a Hero.

One of my favorite things about Jessica Jones Season 3 was how Jessica was Embracing herself on being an Hero by accepting it unlike S1 and S2. I hope we see more of that when she returns

1 Comment
2024/09/12
03:11 UTC

15

Just a few questions from someone returning to these shows after several years.

Back when all these shows were released on Netflix (unbelievably almost TEN years ago now!!), I watched the early seasons then just kinda stopped. I’ve seen Daredevil S1 + S2, as well as S1 of Jessica Jones and Luke Cage. I heard it went downhill after that (although I may be tarring everything with the Iron Fist brush here - from what I recall that was not well received).

Anyway in light of Daredevil Born Again, I’ve decided to go back and watch Daredevil again just to refresh my memory - plus I never saw the third season. I’m on the penultimate ep of season 2 and I’ve really enjoyed it. The Defenders came out before season 3 so presumably I should watch that next (I never saw it), then onto season 3.

That should get me up to speed. But just looking at IMDB I can see there are THREE Jessica Jones seasons (I had no idea, thought it was one and done), as well as second seasons for Luke Cage & Iron Fist. I knew Punisher got his own show and have always been interested in that as I really enjoyed his portrayal in DD2.

Is the other stuff worth bothering with and what’s the best order to watch it in??

Thanks in advance ☺️

17 Comments
2024/09/11
05:09 UTC

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The real villain of JJ Season 2

For real they made me hate this brat in season 2. IDK which was worst her idea of being a self-righteous bitch seeking "justice" or all the crap she did and affected lives in the road just to obain powers for her own. And I don't understand how Jessica let her go freely away after she killed her mother in cold blood, since Jessica put her own mother in prison episodes before, like Jessica's moral code was all jumpy the whole season 🤡🤣

51 Comments
2024/09/11
00:54 UTC

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Should I watch echo and Hawkeye before daredevil born again?

I watched Hawkeye when it came out but I don’t remember shit and I also saw that dd has a cameo in echo. Should I watch the shows though?

49 Comments
2024/09/10
21:28 UTC

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Wilson Fisk is such a cartoon

On my rewatch, and I get that it’s a comic book character and supposed to be the big bad boss, but I just cannot take him seriously. He turns every conversation into a monologue or into him making demands like a petulant child. His behaviour just screams “my mommy and daddy didn’t love me enough,” his relationship with Vanessa is borderline Oedipal (don’t even get me started on that freak), and he’s just in general way too emotional to be a kingpin. He is just a man who desperately needs therapy and guidance. He even had his lackeys questioning his impulsiveness. I mean yes, he is just pure evil and unpredictable and that’s the whole point, but come on. The actor did a great job making me hate him, though. A+ job on the role.

7 Comments
2024/09/10
03:55 UTC

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Bring them back

35 Comments
2024/09/09
16:58 UTC

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Canonically where were Echo and the tracksuit mafia during the Netflix era?

I wanna preface that this is not a debate on if the Netflix shows are canon or not, they are. And I know irl it’s just because they weren’t introduced until the Hawkeye series, but from an in-universe standpoint, where were they during the events of daredevil 1-3?

You can make an argument for the tracksuit mafia that Fisk had far better resources back then and therefore didn’t need to use low tier thugs like them, but where would Maya be during all this? Her and Fisk were seemingly close both when she was a child and and during the blip period, but the time in between those is up in the air.

Again, this isn’t a canonicity debate, this is purely in-universe and I wanted to hear what you all think.

7 Comments
2024/09/08
23:14 UTC

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