Both the people in both the relationships give more brother-sister energy. But don't really see the romantic chemistry. I definitely see Daisy being better with Lincoln. As for Phil and Melinda, I'm sorry, I don't see anyone with either of them lolol. I guess except for that woman with Coulson who >!got shot and killed by Ward. !<

Pretend you were Grant Ward, what would you do if Christian told you to push your younger brother into the well? What would you do if Garrett told you that he’d break you out of prison? What would you do if you were in Ward’s shoes? What would your life decisions and choices be?

• The Clairvoyant
• Grant Ward
• Daniel Whitehall
• Kasius
• Gideon Malick
• Cal
• Aida
• General Hale
• Jiayang
• Hive
• The Watchdogs
• Sarge & the crew
• Senator Nadeer
• Wilfred Malick
• The Confederacy
• Chronicoms
• Lash
• Izel
• Momentum Labs Ghosts
• Nathaniel Malick
• Gravitron
• The Superior/Anton Ivanov
• Ruby Hale

…to reference the main event of the episode. (The only words you can change are “Fear,” “Loathing,” “Planet,” and “Kitson;” you can also change the word “on” to “in”)

Examples:

“Laughing and Tripping on the Planet of Kitson”

“Daisy and Jemma on the High of Puffies”

When Coulson and May are at Cybertek and as Fitz is feeding Coulson what to say, Coulson starts to say, “break” in a Scottish accent. Idk why, but that joke made me laugh so damn hard

Due to budget reasons they nerfed her powers down,as someone who manipulates vibrations her powers should be the most versatile of powers out there.

But let's say the budget was unlimited, what's something you'd want to see her do with her powers?

I’m high hey annoyed that they made him so I love you to Daisy for the first time right before his ☠️ and she didn’t get to say it back😭 that’s the very least she could do, besides cry.

It really infuriates me that they imprisoned him, knew the others would be coming for him and put him in the only place that hadn’t been secured where there’s a massive door open for anyone to get through…. These mistakes just seem insanely d u m b when they should know way better than to put him in the only place they could get to…. It’s so infuriating!

Does Hive have to absorb people to not wither away? Because I thought his goal was to wipe out humans but that won’t work if he needs them to survive without being weak, or does the connection with inhumans give him strength and replace humans?

I’m watching for the 2nd time and Hive just kidnapped Dr. Radcliffe and proposed the idea of making inhumans and I forgot about those things so I just started cracking up… when Hellfire, Scorch, Burning Man saw them and was like “even the women?” About how they looked, I died of laughter and now I’m just cracking up at the thought and how Hive didn’t want to fix them despite them having no power and not being near Radcliffe’s dream creation, or even you’d think Hive’s, you’d think he’d want an army with powers and common sense… I guess since he was hideous he wanted to make everyone else😭

This was brought up before, after Doctor Strange 2 came out. We learnt that the Darkhold was simply a copy of runes from Mount Wungadore.

What we learnt in the Agatha premiere was that Agatha actually had a few copies of the Darkhold, all of which were destroyed after MoM. I think given the conflicting histories and different appearances, its far more likely that the one in the series was just another version.

Sidenote: If this is the case, Im happy that it doesn't conflict with what the show established. Also, the show did Wanda's arc with the Darkhold in MoM, first.

Does anyone understand why Hive took so long eating people food when all it seemed like he had to do was get those 5 people and be recharged by ☠️ them…. Why did he wait so long and let himself be weak and helpless? I don’t get why that wasn’t the first thing he did and also… they said he couldn’t stand yet he walked out in front of Malick’s car when they were fleeing the portal🤔 it’s ridiculous because he supposedly couldn’t walk but if he wouldn’t have made it to Malick’s car, he would’ve been discovered and contained…. There’s no way someone wouldn’t report a dude looking like that

I'm aware that this may be an unpopular opinion, and feel free to send downvotes my way, but I just wanted to share my thoughts.

I'm currently on my 2nd full rewatch of AoS (and like 4th rewatch for S1). Unfortunately, S2-3 don't seem to connect with me like they do with apparently the rest of the fanbase. I'm not a huge fan of Daisy's parents, Inhumans, Afterlife, the "real SHIELD," or Hive, and HYDRA got to the point where it was way overplayed by the end of S3. Regardless, it's not like these seasons are terrible. They keep me relatively emotionally invested, the action's cool, and I adore the characters (for the most part).

However, each time I've tried, I get the same feeling during these seasons. I immediately feel like something is "off," and it's honestly pretty obvious. I fell in love with the cast of S1, but then, for some reason, they found it necessary to add in a TON of new characters that I'm expected to care about. S1 already had a big cast, with 6 main characters, but S2 adds Trip, Mack, Hunter, and Bobbi. That's 10 characters! Then, Trip dies, which is probably a good idea, but they immediately throw in Lincoln to replace him. On top of that, they got the whole "real SHIELD" shit going on which includes Gonzalez. It all just feels like way too much. I watch AoS because I want to spend time with the core cast. All of these newbies actively take away screentime, and we're simply expected to care because they're SHIELD agents...

Then, in S3, we get another big dump of characters to suck up more screentime, like Joey, Yo-Yo, Lash, and Rosalind, which is frustrating, but then 3B rolls around, and they finally begin to course correct. By the end of S3 we lose almost all of these characters, which leaves more room for the characters we actually care about!

I think the reason why everyone (including me) loves S4 so much is because it's finally fucking focused! We get a slimmed down core cast of characters that stays consistent for the rest of the show. Coulson, Daisy, Fitz, Simmons, May, and Mack (and Yo-yo), make up a perfectly balanced core cast.

Whether people like Hunter & Bobbi or not, I genuinely get the feeling that I'm not the only one that felt like the cast was way too bloated, which is directly attributable to S4 being considered the best season of the show.

I put it off for years. I don’t know why, I think my first impression was that it didn’t carry the weight of the rest of the IP. Boy was I wrong. I just finished watching one of the best shows made for network tv. Sure there were moments where the story would stray but damn these writers are good. How did they manage to make all of that work?! All while finding ways to build these characters into people I’m truly going to miss. I can’t think of anything to complain about other than the lack of Fitz in season 7. Other than that I love this show. I love the team. I love the writing and the chemistry and the story. It still feels very separate from the MCU. I’ve been avoiding this subreddit until I finished it but I can’t wait to read other discussions and find out if I share the same love for Enoch.

What were everyone’s favorite moments or even just favorite parts of the show?

What if Ward really went through the Tahiti process? Do you guys think that he would be back with the team or not? (I really wish he did 😭)

I thought after the crystals fell in the ocean that we’d get a lot of new inhuman characters… I was really disappointed they only found one and the other left but what doesn’t make sense is how it turned to robots.. especially when they investigate inhuman instances but it was extremely rare and barely ever happened… I wish they’d have dedicated a lot more time to new cases and less time in storyline… like it takes so long to resolve one story, which is fine but I wish they threw in a lot more stories of people with powers because I thought Avengers when I heard of the show and they mostly have powers so I was disappointed when having powers wasn’t common on the show

Was Will really in Hydra and what he told Simmons was a cover story? Or it wasn’t a cover story but he was still in Hydra?

We have a neighbor that does a ton of Jack O lanterns every Halloween, was so excited to see some Shield representation!

I always found it a little odd that Grant seemed so frightened of Christian when he was first brought up. Obviously there is a past there when they were younger and he was scared of him. But after Grant breaks free, he basically goes straight to him to do what he does.

I wonder if the initial reaction is just that, his initial fear of remembering the past. But then he somehow decides it'll be therapeutic or will be to his advantage in the process. Even if he felt of SHIELD delivered him successfully, Grant is resourceful enough to turn it around.

Thoughts on this? Was this written inconsistently or does it work?

so a few days ago someone posted asking who people identify with the most and i actually got downvoted for it. so i wanted to repost what i went back and said there.

i answered ward and fitz after the framework.

cannot believe i got downvoted bc of the fact that i said "bad" guys. fitz saw who he could've been in the framework just like everyone else but his injury made him hallucinate him after. after that he did the wrong things for the right reasons sometimes and in one episode in season 6 (fear and loathing on planet kitson i think) he said something about much he knows how uncompromising hateful men can be when enoch asked how he knew to reverse the airlock. he met the bad part of himself and used that self awareness to ultimately save the whole crew, ie; used it for good.

ward was mainly driven by childhood trauma and more so being lied to about how it happened. christian ward reminds me exactly of my mother and how i grew up. garret "saved" him by hardening him. i don't relate to his loyally to garret bc nobody saved me so i hardened myself. i wouldn't betray people who ACTUALLY mattered to me for anybody- but most of my interactions are an act. obviously not to the extent of ward, and not with such extreme intent. ward never lied to or hurt skye. even after she shoots him and he's w kara ward STILL is loyal to her. as she says later "he thought she could understand him". he never lied to her. that was his exception. he was so so so redeemable before they gave him to christain. honestly maybe even up until he shot kara. even if his redemption arc was just peacefully turning himself in. if skye hadn't been so cold and happy about turning him over to christain and totally unwilling to ever see him as anything but a monster- the one person who he was honest with and cared for - along with everyone else- he was driven to act more and more like one until he finally goes on a literal suicide mission w the intent of suicide after thomas hears him threaten to skin fitz head to toe. he was misunderstood, traumatized, and driven to extremes by all of it along with people's total disinterest in trying to empathize with him bc they took his actions at surface level. he decided to be who they told him he was to not get hurt more. but he also could accept most the time that he was subjectively evil. but we see in the frame work the same underlying complexes. he could've easily been good if forgiven or even just understood out loud in season 1.

so im curious how many people actually try to read this deeply into every character and their opinions on each. im not asking for if im wrong for relating to them, thats subjective. im just curious how you guys view characters you relate to

I can’t stand to watch the episode with Will and Jemma…. Watching it a second time I just feel too bad for Will to watch the escape part because I hear him talk about how he’s been stranded 14 years And I’m SO upset he didn’t get a happy ending or even a moderately ok ending, he got one of the worst stories and he seems nice, apart from the poking Jemma but after 14 years I can’t blame him for not knowing what’s real or not… and at least he put out food and water for her just in case she was real lol but he was so selfless, especially when she offered to give her phone battery up and his first thought was her and how she’d miss seeing Fitz and her friends… can’t stand what they did to him😭

Question stands. In season 2, they were still somehow cannon, with Shield being a thing in Avengers Ultron. They were introducing inhumans and the other show was going to be a movie, was also a part of the mcu. The plan was to use Inhumans to replace X-Men.

So if the Inhumans movie/show didn't fail and at least some members were to join Avengers, do you think AoS would follow at least with Daisy?

Same as above