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Harry Potter: astronomy club, or family/house of Black stars?

When I read the books some years ago, my knowledge of anything related to astronomy and celestial objects and especially their English or official/Western names was nearly zero (now it's better but still barely above zero), so I didn't notice that there were a few names of stars used for characters. I only knew Sirius was the name of the North Star (brightest star from Earth) but I missed any other such names.

In the last 2-3 years I've gotten more interested in astronomy, the stars, galaxies etc. and recently getting back to Harry Potter I noticed/remembered that in addition to Sirius, Regulus and Arcturus are also names of bright stars used as someone's names.

I'm planning to start re-reading the books soon and thought it would be interesting to know whether there are any other instances of names of celestial objects being used as people's names in the books, and whether it is used for all kinds of people in the books or it's only (some) members of the Black family that have names taken from "the heavens". Also if it's the latter and there were other "Black"s having star names, I would like to know who those were.

P.S. As a bonus, even though it's not related to Astronomy, I also learned last year that Firenze is the (Italian) name of the Italian city Florence (though it's possible JK Rowling had another source for that name, not sure that's where she took it from).

P.P.S. I added the spoiler tag because of Regulus Arcturus, in case someone is currently reading that book and hasn't yet discovered this name.

7 Comments
2024/06/27
00:05 UTC

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reading the books for the first time

i watched all the movies for the first time a few years ago and i’ve just started reading the books. i knew there would be differences but i’m shocked at how much was cut from the films.

i just finished goblet of fire and i think it’s definetly my favorite book so far. the last few chapters with voldemort coming back and the barty crouch jr reveal felt way more interesting in the books. voldemort talking about his past, more dialogue from him and the death eaters, almost the whole scene with bcj, etc.

also rita skeeter is one the worst characters.

edit: wanted to add i think one of my favorite scenes is when harry gives the money he won to fred and george. it was so sweet i could not stop smiling while reading it.

30 Comments
2024/06/26
19:05 UTC

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Harry Potter and the Philosopher’s Stone was first published on this day in 1997

One minute to go and he’d be eleven twenty-seven. Thirty seconds . . . twenty . . . ten . . . nine — maybe he’d wake Dudley up, just to annoy him — three . . . two . . . one . . .

BOOM.

The whole shack shivered and Harry sat bolt upright, staring at the door. Someone was outside, knocking to come in.

Happy Publication Day, Harry!

7 Comments
2024/06/26
18:15 UTC

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Richard Nixon and Severus Snape- Character Analysis

The Harry Potter community has often drawn many connotations into the similarities between Voldemort, Grindelwald and Hitler. However, it is equally fascinating to note the striking similarities between Richard Nixon, the US President from 1969-74 and Severus Snape, Headmaster of Hogwarts (1997-98). It is intriguing that few have spotted the sharp resemblance between the two individuals.

Both Nixon and Snape are commonly remembered as brooding, vengeful, and "cartoonish-like" figures. Both of them were known to be reclusive personalities who had trouble interacting at a personal level. Nixon was well known to be one of the most introverted personalities to enter the White House.

Nixon was prone to bitterness. The narrow defeat in the 1960 US election left him paranoid and made him prone to conspiracies and plotting. Snape was also a bitter personality with his life filled with hardships. He could also claim that life had "dealt with him in a hard manner" as it was his mistake that led to Lily's death.

Both Nixon and Snape were known to lash out at others, during moments of distress and anguish. Additionally, they were difficult persons to get along with. They were also known to possess a "bullying temperament".

Both of them were born prodigies- Nixon got admission in Harvard (however, he couldn't afford it), Snape was exceptionally skilled in Potions and the Dark Arts.

Both of them had troubled childhoods with dysfunctional family backgrounds. Nixon had a "mean-spirited, abusive father and often-absent mother"- the very phrase can be attributed to Snape as well.

They had suffered personal tragedies early on in their lives as well with Nixon losing his two younger brothers and Snape losing Lily. Both had complicated one-sided romances- Nixon would drive his then-love (and future wife) Pat to her dates with other men; while Snape and his story with Lily needs no explanation.

From a military point of view, Nixon had served as a lieutenant commander in the United States Navy while Snape was Dumbledore's Chief operating officer during the war.

Without doubt, Nixon's low point is the Watergate scandal while Snape's is that of joining the Death Eaters.

It can be argued that Nixon was the original architect of the populist version of the Republican Party. Snape was guilty of joining an extremist and racist organization known as the Death Eaters.

Nixon was unfortunate in the sense that he did not have a mentor or a guiding influence as Dumbledore was for Snape. Henry Kissinger was more of a political operator than a mentor or guide.

At the same time, Snape did not reach towering heights, despite his raw innate knowledge, barring his brief tenure as Headmaster. He failed to make any major publication or noteworthy discovery for the greater good of the wizarding world.

Ultimately, both Nixon and Snape are viewed in varying shades of grey. They continue to attract deep introspection and controversy and are very complex, cynical and multi-layered personalities.

0 Comments
2024/06/26
15:31 UTC

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Is it just me or was Hepzibah Smith giving uncomfy vibes in HBP

I mean I get that she was vain old lady living alone in her house with just an elf and a penchant for collecting valuable things but her whole interaction with young Tom Riddle just gave me weird/uncomfy vibes. The way it's described that:

  1. Girlish laugh and fluttering lashes
  2. Greedily looking at his face and pinching his cheek (which yes can be counted off as an annoying old granny thing) but the way she was acting like a schoolgirl with a crush just made it weird.

Tom must be around 18 or 19 years old in this scene or maybe 20 but the whole old lady hitting on him just made me gag.

And I would like to mention that Tom Riddle strikes as going more for a charming gentleman persona than a flirtatious man.I think he used etiquettes ( like bringing her flowers and kissing her hand) and polite and courteous manners.Its described multiple times that he "said quietly" whenever he has a dialogue.

What are your thoughts about this particular memory and Hepzibah Smith. Am I over looking into it or was she really acting inappropriate?

Note:I am more focused on Hepzibah Smith's interaction and behaviour in this scene while I know that Tom Riddle wasn't acting any better being greedy and then killing her and framing the house elf afterwards.

23 Comments
2024/06/26
15:15 UTC

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Advanced Potion-Making by Libatius Borage

How did he get this book published if all of these recipes need to be adjusted to get the proper result?

Did no one TRY the recipes before making this the textbook for potions, year 6?

Did Slughorn (in previous years or this one) not realize that there was only one student to get these potions correct? Are these teachers not questioned when everyone comes out of 6th year not being able to make anything right?

On another note…

Did lily and snape work together to make some of these? Is that why they were both really good at potions?

So many thoughts!

40 Comments
2024/06/26
15:00 UTC

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Barty Crouch Jr - Arguably the best death eater in the series

I'm currently listening to the Goblet of Fire and have reached the part of Barty Crouch Jr explaining his clever dastardly deeds and I just can't help think it was a crime that JKR gave him the dementors kiss, it would have been awesome to see him more in action and more involved in the last few books.

He's honestly a very compelling and clever villain, he got 12 O.W.Ls when he was at school and we only know of two other people to do so (Bill and Percy Weasley) and honestly more impressive than that is that he was so good at being Moody that he fooled Albus Dumbledore, who is a talented legilimens and also good friends with the real Moody, that he was actually Moody.

Anyway I think he's arguably the best death eater, better than even Bellatrix. It would have been interesting to see his dynamic with Voldemort continue. I would have much rather see more of him than Bellatrix, no hate to her she's a good death eater but she's not really compelling as a character as Barty.

25 Comments
2024/06/26
10:30 UTC

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The part of Voldemort in the diary, just curious if Riddle had Marvolo's ring at that point?

Forgive me if this is such a stoner question...

The Tom Riddle that appears in the chamber while Ginny is passed out; does he have Marvolo's ring on?

Im confused when Riddle opened the chamber/making the diary into a Horcrux in relation to him going to Little Hangleton to find the shack, kill his father/grandfather, making another Horcrux yada yada yada

I ask because after he gets the ring, he has to come back to Hogwarts. Eventually finds and reads the spooky books about Horcruxes, and then finally to ask Slughorn if he can make more than one. (he's wearing the ring in the Slughorn memory) He couldve gotten the diary at anytime after meeting dumbledore

If anyone can clear this up or wants to have a fun fan-fiction exercise on this? Game on!

I've been re-reading the series and i cant help but be fascinated more and more about what Voldemort was like during his school days. I think if the WB wanted to do something interesting, they could do a series of shorts or a mini-series where we get to see him discover the world, how he sweet talks the grey lady, finding and opening the chamber of secrets, or finding the room of requirement.
All the while being a solo act. You don't need to add Ron and Hermione surrogates that get heart broken or killed either. Then its just the "CW" version of Tom Riddle goes to Hogwarts

12 Comments
2024/06/25
22:47 UTC

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Surnames related to magic speciality

All throughout the books, we see countless examples of background wizards and witches whose surnames match up with their speciality in magic. Things like “One Thousand Magical Herbs and Fungi by Phyllida Spore”. And there's even a few prominent characters, like Professor Sprout.

I know that this is likely just something JKR has added to make the magical world seem more whimsical. But what do you think the in-universe explanation is?

I can think of a few possible reasons:

  1. Authors of books use punny pseudonyms
  2. There is a culture of changing your surname to match your speciality once you reach a certain level of mastery in it
  3. Families have been passing down their accumulating knowledge in a subject to their descendents ever since their surname was founded
  4. Fate shenanigans

I think 1 might be the most likely, but least interesting. 2 is probably not very likely, but I think it's the most interesting. I don't think 3 would account for the sheer density of name puns we see. And 4 is the least satisfying to me.

What do you think?

18 Comments
2024/06/25
19:01 UTC

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Ginny probably did not sign up for Care of Magical Creatures out of sheer embarrassment

Can you imagine throttling the teacher’s roosters, being indirectly responsible for them being sent to prison, then having to take a class with them?

Even though Hagrid is the sweetest and would never blame Ginny for what happened in the Chamber of Secrets, I think I would take Muggle Studies instead.

13 Comments
2024/06/25
12:32 UTC

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Tone shift between the two halves of the series

I can't find it again to link it, but I read a very interesting piece of meta that says that the HP series plays by two different sets of rules - the first three, and to an extent Book Four, play by Roald Dahl rules - they're children's books, boarding school stories with magic, and have this magical realism-esque tone you find in Dahl's work, where the sheer OTTness means the harms done (the Dursleys' abuse, Snape and Binns being terrible at teaching, Harry getting pretty much no help from the adults) circle around to acceptable because that's the genre convention. Five, Six and Seven, on the other hand, want to be Serious Adult Novels, want to talk about war and death in a more realistic and adult way, which is not a bad thing but it's very different from the first four books.

This was a lightbulb moment for me - I love 1-4, enjoy parts of 5, and cannot deal with 6 and 7. I don't think JKR had the skill to pull off the tone shift. What is acceptable in a Dahl-esque fantasy is horrifically dystopic in a more realistic setting, which is why the later books just did not work for me. Harry Potter just isn't Harry Potter if it's not magical, and the last two books weren't. I get that some people loved the shift, but it wasn't for me.

Did the change in tone work for you? Why/Why not?

51 Comments
2024/06/25
06:43 UTC

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summer

in what book does harry ask dumbledore if he can stay at hogwarts during the summer? i dont remember if its a fever dream or if it actually happened. thanks in advance!

4 Comments
2024/06/25
03:16 UTC

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Dudley Demented

I have not seen anyone ask this question, so if it’s a frequent one, or it has been answered elsewhere, I apologize, but do we ever find out what Dudley’s worst memories were when the dementors attacked him? I was reading Order of the Phoenix and had the idea that maybe what Dudley saw (because he really hadn’t had anything truly terrible happen to him) was… himself— as he really is. Like, he realized that he was a horrible bully and garbage human, and possibly, didn’t know how to change that about himself— until Dumbledore visited in Half-Blood Prince and gave him like… seeds for thinking about how to be a better person… and it was still clumsy, but by the time we get to the opener of Deathly Hallows, Dudley has begun his attempts with leaving Harry tea and whatnot.

Anyway, it was an idea I had. What are some other theories about what Dudley went through with the dementors?

22 Comments
2024/06/25
01:21 UTC

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Albus’ age

Sorry in advance, this is probably known, I’m reading through the books with my 9-year old who’s obsessed.

My son’s theory is that since Albus created the Philosopher’s Stone with Flammel, who is ~600 in the first book, then, since Flamel only lived to 600 because of the Philosopher’s Stone, Albus must also have been using it to age beyond his natural lifespan. Without it, Flamel had to have been less than 200, making the gap between Albus and Flamel at most 200 years, making Albus at minimum 400 in the first book.

Logic makes sense to me but I know nothing. Google suggests he’s in his 50s in the first book. So wondering what we have wrong?

36 Comments
2024/06/24
23:25 UTC

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Real features, numbers and students' schedules in Hogwarts

Hi everyone,

Right, so I was extremely bored few months ago as I was in between things and I started to pay attention to the numbers that are absolutely unrealistic in Hogwarts, JKR talked about roughly 1000 students but only pictures few Gryffindors and few other house students on Harry's year typically. This does not match what is pictured on her books. So because I am a nerd and I like things to fit all together perfectly, I started to imagine how many students can Hogwarts fit realistically, and I came to the conclusion of... 600.

Which would mean that roughly each year, there are 80/85 students, so 20 / 22 per house, at least 4 dormitories per year per house, so each house has at 28, which is already a lot. And then I was thinking about how you fit 600 students for only few professors (8 core classes, 5 optional ones, and 2 advanced)? Surely they cannot have only one potion professor etc. I started to go on and on and I basically imagines an organisation that fits properly. I divided each year into 2 classes of 40 students, so each year got a class A and B, and I organise their weekly schedules (yes I was extremely bored).

So if you enjoy those kind of boring details, you can bear with me:

I pictured that each year Hogwarts welcome 80 students, 20 in each house. Those 80 students are then divided into 2, Class A and Class B. And therefore there are two professors of the following classes: Charms, Defence against Dark Arts, History of Magic, Potions and Transfiguration. Only one professor of Astronomy, Flying and Herbology. Regarding the optional classes, only one of each (Arithmancy, Ancient Runes, Care of magical creature, Divination and Muggle studies), and for the 2 advanced classes after 6th year onwards (Advanced Arithmancy and Alchemy) one as well.

And then I got carried away and I literally detailed all the class A and B schedules per year because it kept me occupied. So of course I also imagined that 1st and 2nd year are young and being in a boarding school is not easy so I didn't want to give them classes on the Fridays, and for the 1st year students, no Astronomy practice classes after sunset either. I also put the 5th and 7th year who have their O.W.L and N.E.W.T free of classes on Friday afternoons to do some homework and have time to prepare for it. And as you go on later years, the Astronomy classes are more late (21h for 2nd and 3rd years, 22h for 4th and 5th years, and 23h for 6th and 7th years). Not all classes have the same ratio / week as some of them are more important, exactly like we have in Muggle schools! I also added some rules for the school with the meal times etc, but that is going too much into details and I feel the reader is already sleeping at this point.

22 Comments
2024/06/24
22:29 UTC

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How could Harry see what Professor Dippet was doing before Tom Riddle entered the room?

I’m reading The Very Secret Diary and I’m a little confused. If this is Tom Riddle’s memory, how can Harry be alone with Professor Dippet without Tom there? Does it not work the same as the memories shown within the pensive?

22 Comments
2024/06/24
20:48 UTC

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Werewolf-curse +veela-genes

When Bill was attacked by Greyback, it's said that most likely he got some sort of... infection (don't know what word was used in english). That got me thinking considering her wife was quarter-veela. What do you think about the kids in this context? Headcanons or anything? Could these circumstances lead to anything unnatural/special (even with wizarding world standard)?

10 Comments
2024/06/24
16:58 UTC

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Pr. Binns's age

If pr. Binns never noticed he died, can he be in Hogwarts since its establishment? I asked it once in Facebook and got mixed answers

10 Comments
2024/06/24
07:53 UTC

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Decree for the Reasonable Restriction of Underage Sorcery is a fundamentally anti-Muggle Born law

In this literal essay, I will be demonstrating that the Decrere for Reasonable Restriction of Underage Sorcery is a piece of anti-Muggle Born legislation. Let's party!

First, we learn from the text that the law prohibits all school-aged, wand-holding children from performing magic outside of school except in case of an emergency. The text doesn't directly say WHY the law is in place, but we assume that it exists for the protection of students and those around them, since these wizards-in-training know just enough to be dangerous, but not enough to fully control their magic powers. (EDIT: A lot of you in the comments have also mentioned the Statute of Secrecy is a reason this law exists, which, OF COURSE! How silly of me not to mention. I think this definitely is a reason for the existence of the law, but as far as how it's applied in an anti-Muggle Born way — I think my points stand. Thank you to everyone who commented this!)

The law is also applied and activated via the Trace, a spell placed (automatically at birth?) on wizarding children, which detects magic they perform and the magic performed around them, until the Trace breaks at age 17.

One thing we also know is that, before children are educated, the Trace won't register magical action as illegal. The child is presumed innocent as they are yet untrained. However, after the child has stepped foot into Hogwarts, the Trace fully applies. It is implied that, now that they have some training, they are expected to have enough control over their magic so as not to have any more accidents. You can further imply that accidental magic would be considered illegal by this application of the law.

But of course, the Trace is not altogether very good at measuring the true perpetrator of magical action. Dobby performed the Hover Charm that Harry got reprimanded for in CoS, so we know the radius for the Trace extends beyond just the child in question, and that it can be easily confused by other nearby magical beings.

This is why, in all-Magic Families (purebloods), the Trace doesn't register. When Harry visits the Weasleys in CoS, none of Molly's or Arthur's spells prompt a second letter. Because of this, we can assume that the Trace gets confused when magical people are close to magical children and accidentally set it off. The confusion from the Trace might be so overwhelming that it doesn't register the illegal magic, or if it does, the enforcers at the Ministry would find many cases simply too difficult to decipher and not charge the offense at all.

Magical Families also have two more advantages: First, that magical parents could straight up just lie and say that they performed whatever spell so that their child doesn't get in trouble. Muggle Borns don't have that luxury. Second, there are magical charms that assumedly block or inhibit the full effect of the Trace. (This is the only decent explanation for why Harry is able to be at multiple "secret" locations such as the Burrow, Grimauld Place, or his safehouse at the Tonks residence, without nearby magic alerting the Ministry/Death Eaters as to where he is.) Theoretically, any witch or wizard could charm their homes or person with this, so that their child can practice magic without being noticed.

Therefore, the Trace would naturally pick up a "cleaner" and thus "more reliable" read if magic is performed by or near a wizarding child in the Muggle world, NOT the Wizarding World (which is almost too confusing for it to apply at all). Thus, Muggle Born or Muggle-raised children likely make up the majority of offenses. The law literally targets them.

(This could be nice fodder for selling a fascist narrative that Muggle Born children are documented delinquents, poisoning the good and wholesome pureblood children with their rule breaking... more on that in another post.)

What's more, the rule is applied extremely loosely and according to the agenda of whoever is in power. Wandless magic is used near Harry in CoS; he gets reprimanded. We infer this is the standard response, even if it is a poor application of the law, because there is no current governmental agenda for or against Harry in CoS. But then, in PoA, magic is used by Harry to blow up Marge, and Cornelius Fudge himself says that they don't reprimand students for blowing up their aunts on accident... even though this appears to directly violate the law. Well, does it violate the law? Or is the law vague enough in regards to wandless magic that Ministers and other enforcers can choose to apply or not apply it based on political agenda? Certainly, it's in Fudge's best interest to keep Harry safe and happy in PoA.

But it's not in Fudge's interest to keep Harry safe and happy in OotP. When the political tides have turned, Fudge has no issue applying an extremely strict interpretation of the law on to Harry. The law is therefore flexible enough to be applied according to the personal agenda of who's in power. And we know that the Wizarding World generally has bias against Muggle Borns built into its ethos (see: Arthur's interest in Muggles being generally frowned upon; Muggle Born children having to actually assimilate or be ousted back to an entirely different world), so generally anti-Muggle Born application of the law could go unchallenged by the status quo.

We know based on real, historical movements where discriminatory parties have taken power, that laws like this are important tools when it comes to enacting their agenda against the scapegoat group. The law is vague enough, and the magical technology is poor enough, that excuses for not charging pureblood children can be easily found, while charging Muggle-born children can be sold as "just upholding the law."

So what's the point of all of this? The point is a) to keep easy tabs on the Muggle Born children and what magic they are performing, so that they can expel them and snap their wands before they become too successful as witches and wizards, and b) to provide pureblood children the relatively safe environment they have always enjoyed to grow stronger in their magical capabilities. It's a deliberate handicap for Muggle Borns, and an institutionalized way to officially throw these "invaders" and "delinquents" out of the magical community.

TLDR, it seems like the law was created with the guise of protecting young people (edit: + the Statute of Secrecy), but in application it actually, functionally targets underage wizards who are Muggle-born. It is, effectively, a piece of institutionalized racism.

OK, thanks for letting me go kinda off. LMK what you think about this, I'd love to keep learning about the Trace/debating its use cases.

56 Comments
2024/06/23
22:11 UTC

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What is the single worst thing each specific character has done throughout the majority of the books?

75 Comments
2024/06/23
17:31 UTC

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Harry Potter over the years

I started reading Harry Potter when I was roughly six years old. I never made it past chamber of secrets and resumed reading it around 27. I’ve finally made it to the end of GOF and starting Order of the Phoenix soon. I was just curious what your journey with the books has been like over the years. Any other late readers here?

47 Comments
2024/06/23
15:31 UTC

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Hermione's Experience on the Hogwarts Express in CoS?

I've read the HP series countless times, but I think this is the first time this has occurred to me – what Hermione went through during the first part of Chamber of Secrets.

Harry and Ron get stuck on the platform at King's Cross, and end up missing the train. We all know what happens to them AFTER that, but from their perspective. But what did Hermione do/think? Let's go through the likely scenario.

She probably said farewell to her parents at King's Cross before walking through the gateway to the 9 3/4 platform. She probably met with the other Weasleys' and hugged Molly, while worrying with them as to the whereabouts of Harry and Ron. She probably delayed boarding and waited/searched for her two best friends on the platform, so that they could choose a compartment together. And when the train departure was fast approaching, she would have been forced to board alone and find a seat.

She would very likely have been sitting ALONE or with strangers, at twelve years old. The entire journey on the train was probably filled with anxiety. Not only for the safety of her friends, but also some dejection for the possibility she would be alone again (and disliked again) just like she was at the beginning of the first year. No friends, AGAIN. All of this is depressing to me. I can imagine her feverishly reading Lockhart's books and then using her nervous energy to walk out into the hall to bossily tell people off for some random rule-breaking.

Hermione is not close friends with Ginny yet – they started becoming friends after Ginny's traumatic experience in the Chamber and Hermione's part in saving her. And Ginny is more than likely making her own friends with other first years in her own compartment. Hermione's other roommates have always been on opposite wavelengths to her, so it is very unlikely she is sitting with Parvati or Lavender.

Remember, it was not until they actually arrived at Hogwarts (and presumably saw the Whomping Willow), that there were "ridiculous rumors that Harry and Ron were expelled for crashing a flying car." So Hermione didn't actually KNOW they were still attending or even alive until she saw them at the portrait hole.

Maybe she sat with Neville or Luna? Thoughts?

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2024/06/23
08:39 UTC

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Hagrid’s wand

Someone posted the other day about the wands of those who have been convicted of crimes, and it got me thinking about Hagrid’s situation. We know his wand was snapped in half when he was expelled, but he was allowed to keep the pieces, and it is strongly implied a few times that they are hidden in the handle of an umbrella. But why would he need to hide his wand if the Ministry knew he had it and allowed it? It kind of got me wondering if Dumbledore might have secretly repaired it for him. The elder wand was definitely capable, and Dumbledore was the most powerful wizard in the world. Dumbledore knew Hagrid didn’t open the Chamber of Secrets. We saw that trying to use a broken wand can be downright dangerous, yet Dumbledore specifically permitted Hagrid to use magic on occasions such as collecting Harry from the Dursleys and he does so successfully, other than possibly Dudley’s tail, but that’s much more advanced magic than Hagrid would have learned before expulsion so it’s not necessarily the wand’s fault, or of course there’s the explanation that Dudley was already too much like a pig. And Hagrid’s loyalty to Dumbledore bordered on obsession. Ultimately it just seems in character for Dumbledore to do something like that.

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2024/06/23
00:31 UTC

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Does Lord Voldemort represent Germany between 1871-1945?

I know it might seem strange to associate a character with a country, but I think it makes sense.

The First Wizarding War is an allegory for the First World War, and the Second Wizarding War is an allegory for the Second World War. The 14-year period between Lord Voldemort's fall and return represents the interwar period. Voldemort is often compared to Hitler, and this resemblance is most evident after his return in the fourth book. Initially, the Ministry of Magic ignores Voldemort's return and his new bid for power, but eventually, they are forced to confront him. This mirrors Britain's appeasement policy towards Hitler's Germany, which inevitably led to the Second World War.

During the First Wizarding War, Voldemort's rise can be seen as similar to the newly founded Reich's attempt at world hegemony, leading to a catastrophic war. In the end, Voldemort (representing Germany) was defeated. While Germany wasn't really the 'bad guy' in the First World War as they were in the Second, from the British perspective, they were the enemy, and that is what matters for this allegory. After the end of the books, Voldemort was defeated for good, akin to Germany's defeat in 1945. In 1918, Germany was also defeated, but it was not a crashing victory, and they had the potential to rise again, as many predicted. But by contrast, they were decisively and crushingly defeated in 1945, and the Allies made sure that Germany would never again rise up as a hegemonic, aggressive power.

The resemblance is very clear in my opinion. What do you think?

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2024/06/22
23:52 UTC

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First Time Readthrough - False Spoilers

Hello fam,
I just finished my first ever read through (at 35yo). I'd seen the movies, sort of but really went in pretty blind. Here are my 4 thoughts:

  • I was craving that epilogue for like, 5 books and it just fell SO flat. I imagined it explained the jobs everyone had, their kids, their daily lives, at least two or three characters going back to Hogwarts... nope
  • WHY DO SO MANY of my PEOPLE DIE 😭

I tried avoiding spoilers but here's some things that were spoiled... wrong 😅

  • "Neville kills Voldemort" (ah, he kills Nagini and that's not the same) made me thinking forever that he was the chosen one from the prophecy
  • Hufflepuffs are the "only house" to join in the war (no, they have more members join but aren't the only ones) --> I read this so many times while researching my house!

Does anyone else who read the books "late to the party" have any fun wrong spoilers they had going in?

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2024/06/22
22:12 UTC

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No security checks on Hogwarts mail before Order of the Phoenix?

I was just re-reading the part in Goblet of Fire where Hermione gets hate mail including an envelope filled with undiluted bubotuber pus, which makes her hands develop painful sores. Would there not have been some sort of check on incoming mail at Hogwarts to prevent harmful items being sent to students or staff? It was only starting in Order of the Phoenix (during Umbridge's reign) that all mail was inspected.

But given the nature of magic items and the potential for concealing harmful substances in seemingly innocuous ways, would Dumbledore not have installed some sort of default magical check system on all mail for the protection of students? Not prying into the private contents of students' letters but making sure no lunatic out there was trying to harm students by sending poison-filled sweets, by passing all items -- especially ones with anonymous senders -- through a magical x-ray machine or something? Come to think of it, even the Firebolt that Harry received in Prisoner of Azkaban should have been checked by default, but it wasn't until Hermione actively reported it. The owls always delivered directly to the students, instead of delivering to a central location where mail could be checked and sorted before being delivered to or picked up by students.

I suppose the real-world analogy would be modern boarding schools checking students' mail before delivery, which I am pretty sure doesn't happen. But then it is much harder to concoct and conceal dangerous substances without magic in our world. And even if someone in our world received a suspicious and potentially dangerous package, they would probably be safe if they refrained from opening it. But in the magical world, a package could self-open like a Howler and harm the recipient even if they left it alone. And I'm sure that children of celebrities/royalty going to boarding schools in the real world have some sort of private security check arrangement in place, even if it doesn't apply to the entire school. Given that Harry Potter, a de facto celebrity since his infancy, was at Hogwarts, I think it would have made sense for Dumbledore to require security checks on all incoming mail by default from the very beginning. It could have been something simple like a harmful-item-detection charm which flags certain items for manual review by Filch or other staff before being passed on to the intended recipients.

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2024/06/22
19:24 UTC

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Harry Potter English Adaptations

I know that USA had localised versions of the books. Are there any other localised versions for English speaking countries? Canada, Australia?

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2024/06/22
12:30 UTC

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Do you think the Harry and Lupin argument in DH which ends with Harry calling him a coward and Lupin drawing his wand on Harry could have been relationship ending or is it the sort of fight strong relationships come back from?

It could have been but it wouldn't have made sense if that was the case for Harry and Lupin my opinion. Harry said harsh things in the heat of the moment and Lupin is a forgiving person and not the type to hold a grudge. Harry felt guilty after he calmed down and I think Lupin understands Harry has gone through a lot, is still very young and while hot headed, he means well.

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2024/06/22
06:21 UTC

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Is this book worth anything?

I’m unable to add photos but I found “Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince” book in my closet as well as “Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix”.

The Half-Blood Prince book says it is First Edition and seems to be from 2005.

It also says eleven owls on page 99 but I’m not sure if that’s the mistake or not.

I’m not sure if this is where I should ask but if you want any photos I can send them on messages.

Also, The Order of the Phoenix is a Canadian first edition.

3 Comments
2024/06/22
06:04 UTC

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How do They Keep their Wands?

It is taken for granted that many characters are able to maintain possession of their wands through various circumstances, the most obvious instance being, of course, Voldemort.

Voldemort was robbed of his powers after attacking Harry, reduced to a ghostly, intangible being; yet, upon his inevitable return, he is armed with his old phoenix core wand by Wormtail (I think?). Where was the wand for 13 years? Surely this spectral form of Voldemort, possessing animals and Quirrell, did not possess it. It seems to be taken for granted that he just retained this wand without issue or question, as it is obvious an essential plot device in his quest to vanquish Harry.

Other less notable examples include Bellatrix Lestrange and Sirius Black. When impersonating Lestrange and using her wand, Hermione says, "This is the wand that tortured Neville's parents. This is the wand that killed Sirius." This implies that she possessed the same dragon heartstring wand before and after Azkaban. The same could be said of Sirius. However, Barty Crouch Jr., on the other hand, has to steal Harry's wand at the Quidditch World Cup to conjure the dark mark because, in his own words, "I had not been allowed a wand for years after I went to Azkaban." Is the protocol to snap wands in half when inmates enter Azkaban? Or is that just being expelled from Hogwarts?

Regardless, it is never really addressed how these characters, namely Voldemort, retained possession of the same original wands.

I'm sure this has been addressed in this sub.

Just the musings of a longtime lurker, first-time poster, hoping to post more in the future =)

52 Comments
2024/06/21
19:14 UTC

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