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Currently, this subreddit is only accepting progress as top-level posts. Any other posts will be removed automatically, and efforts to get around this policy will result in a permanent ban.

Please Note: There are minimum account age & karma requirements. If you have a brand new account, you must build karma in other subs before posting or commenting here.

WHAT NOT TO POST

  • Racist, sexist, sexual, or homophobic comments, and general negative content.

  • Natty Policing. Do not blatantly accuse fellow redditors of steroid use. You will be banned. You may politely ask, but do not outright accuse.

  • Asking for medical advice. We are not a replacement for a doctor. If you have a special condition or need advice on an injury, consult your physician.

  • Achievements that will not lead to a constructive discussion should be posted in the weekly Success Sundays thread.

  • Don't ask "Should I Bulk or Cut?" There's literally a sub for this: /r/BulkOrCut. PLEASE DON'T ASK THIS QUESTION!

  • 'Critique my Program' posts - instead see our FAQ for suggested routines.

  • "Can I just drink Olive/Peanut Oil?" - Knock yourself out. It's not a secret calorie hack. It acts as a lubricant laxative. Don't even ask.

  • Form Checks - Use Form Check Friday over at /r/weightroom.

  • Posts advertising products or services. NO SELF-PROMOTION.

  • Clickbait titles. Do not post titles that force people to open the thread to view the question. Temporary bans will be handed out.

  • Lazy "what foods exist?" type questions

  • Requests for shake recipes/reviews, or your own recipes. Please refer to the FAQ section covering shakes as well as searching previous threads via the Search Function for additional recipes.

  • Unhelpful comments. Please make an attempt to post helpful comments and stay on topic. Masturbation/Penis jokes will result in a ban. They are not funny. They’re overdone and unoriginal.

SUB RULES

  • No being a dick, slurs, or personal attacks

  • No arguing in bad faith

  • This sub is for GAINING, not re-comping. If you're 5'10" and 125 lbs, you don't need to "recomp", you need to put on muscle mass AND total body weight.

  • Natty/ROM/sumo/arch/fed/FFMI policing is not tolerated here

  • The mods WILL delete any post or comment we feel is not a good fit, regardless of any sidebar or FAQ statements. A post doesn't have to violate a rule to suck, sometimes people get creative.

  • The mods WILL ban people who are more trouble than they're worth, regardless of any sidebar or FAQ statements. A user doesn't have to violate a rule to suck, sometimes people get creative.

  • No SARMs discussion whatsoever.

  • DO NOT message users offering goods or services! (e.g. personal training).


PROGRESS POST REQUIREMENTS:

You must include 'Progress Post' in the title.

  • Height, Age, Sex

  • Starting & Ending Weight

  • Diet & Lifting Routine

  • Time Period Elapsed

  • Please Note: There is a 4-month minimum for "Transformations"

  • Progress Check-In's must include 1 month of calorie & weight logs

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Thursday Self-reflection Thread

What's holding you back from making the biggest gains? What could you be doing better? Where could you be trying harder? What new habits could you enact to make things easier for you? Be honest with yourself, what would make a difference?

6 Comments
2024/09/12
08:00 UTC

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Simple Questions and Silly Thoughts: the basic questions and discussions thread for September 11, 2024

Welcome to the basic questions and discussions thread! This is a place to ask any questions that you may have -- moronic or otherwise and talk about how your going. Please keep these questions and discussions reasonably on-topic: things noted in the 'what not to post' section of the sidebar will be removed, and the moderation team may issue temporary user bans.Anyone may post a question, and the community as a whole is invited and encouraged to provide an answer. If your question is more specific to you, we recommend providing details. The more we know about your situation, the better answer we will be able to provide. Sometimes questions get submitted late enough in the day that they don't get much traction, so if your question didn't get answered in a previous thread, feel free to post it again.As always, please check the FAQ before posting. The FAQ is considered a comprehensive guide on how to gain lean mass and has more than enough information to get any beginner started today. Ask away!

11 Comments
2024/09/11
20:00 UTC

1

Wednesday What Are You Eating Thread

Ask food related questions here. Discuss recipes. Share eating hacks. DON'T DRINK OLIVE OIL!!!

9 Comments
2024/09/11
08:00 UTC

1

Tuesday Training and Programming Discussion Thread

Have a question that is training or programming related? Ask it here! Want someone to help you revising or customising a program? Ask here! Want to show off a program you designed? Why are you designing your own programs? Read the bloody FAQ!.

11 Comments
2024/09/10
08:00 UTC

1

Simple Questions and Silly Thoughts: the basic questions and discussions thread for September 10, 2024

Welcome to the basic questions and discussions thread! This is a place to ask any questions that you may have -- moronic or otherwise and talk about how your going. Please keep these questions and discussions reasonably on-topic: things noted in the 'what not to post' section of the sidebar will be removed, and the moderation team may issue temporary user bans.Anyone may post a question, and the community as a whole is invited and encouraged to provide an answer. If your question is more specific to you, we recommend providing details. The more we know about your situation, the better answer we will be able to provide. Sometimes questions get submitted late enough in the day that they don't get much traction, so if your question didn't get answered in a previous thread, feel free to post it again.As always, please check the FAQ before posting. The FAQ is considered a comprehensive guide on how to gain lean mass and has more than enough information to get any beginner started today. Ask away!

38 Comments
2024/09/10
00:00 UTC

4

Monday Motivation Thread

Discuss what's motivating you to get make gains here. What started you off? What keeps you going? What do you use to make sure you don't quit?

3 Comments
2024/09/09
08:01 UTC

1

Sunday Victory Thread

What have been your victories this week? Have you made good progress? Set a new lift PR? Enacted a new habit that is helping you greatly? Post it here!

2 Comments
2024/09/08
08:00 UTC

1

Simple Questions and Silly Thoughts: the basic questions and discussions thread for September 08, 2024

Welcome to the basic questions and discussions thread! This is a place to ask any questions that you may have -- moronic or otherwise and talk about how your going. Please keep these questions and discussions reasonably on-topic: things noted in the 'what not to post' section of the sidebar will be removed, and the moderation team may issue temporary user bans.Anyone may post a question, and the community as a whole is invited and encouraged to provide an answer. If your question is more specific to you, we recommend providing details. The more we know about your situation, the better answer we will be able to provide. Sometimes questions get submitted late enough in the day that they don't get much traction, so if your question didn't get answered in a previous thread, feel free to post it again.As always, please check the FAQ before posting. The FAQ is considered a comprehensive guide on how to gain lean mass and has more than enough information to get any beginner started today. Ask away!

8 Comments
2024/09/08
04:01 UTC

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BOOK REVIEW: TACTICAL BARBELL MASS PROTOCOL (read this if you want to gain!)

INTRO

  • Let me start at the end: buy this book. I say that because, in the past, I asked about this book and was told by several people “You wouldn’t get anything out of it. You’ve been training long enough that everything in it will be obvious to you. If you’ve read the other Tactical Barbell Books, you already know all of this.” And, like a sucker, I BELIEVED those folks, and that kept me away from this VERY enjoyable book. And perhaps it’s because I’ve been slogging my way through Robert Sikes “Ketogenic Bodybuilding” book (which, I love Rob for his contributions to the field, but that book is DRY), but this was a total breath of fresh air, an easy and captivating read, and my favorite style of book: an “all-in-one” that manages to NOT be an 800 page tome. So, with that, let me discuss this book, what is in it, why I like it, and why you should buy it.

WHAT IT IS

  • The title really spells it out: this is the book that gets written when the dude behind “Tactical Barbell” writes a mass gaining book. For those totally unfamiliar with Tactical Barbell: it’s a series of books written from the perspective of a dude with a background in special forces/operations AND SWAT style law enforcement. It is this background that vectors his approach to physical training, similar to Brian Alsruhe’s background in counter-terrorism and martial arts. In turn, his books (up until this point) were about building a “high speed/low drag” sorta athlete: well conditioned to be able to endure many hardships and be physically capable across multiple domains while also being strong for their bodyweight: NOT a 300lb strongman competitor.

  • This background definitely comes to play in the Mass Protocol, because even though the goals have shifted, the philosophy and methodology remain the same. It’s still very simple, to the point, reliant on a limited number of high return movements, based around percentages, with an emphasis on recovery and performance vectored toward the GOAL of improving mass specifically vs performance. And, in turn, the author sets out to provide you ALL the tools you need to succeed. By his own words, he “Army-proofed” the book, so anyone can make it work.

WHAT’S INSIDE

  • This is what really won me over about the book: it’s absolutely the kind of book you could give to a trainee on day 1 and say “Read this, do what it says, and you’ll succeed”, AND it even gives you the tools to be able to say “Do this for the rest of your life and you’ll be fine.”

BASE BUILDING

  • After the book establishes intent with the reader, it starts out with a “Base Building” program, which already won me over. As it sounds, Base Building is about getting in shape TO train: a CRUCIAL step that many new trainees attempt to bypass, which results in them failing HARD and early in their training. I’ve lamenting on many occasions how the modern trainee tends to have a sedentary childhood, and lack of athletics/physical activity significantly hamstrings them compared to their peers that grew up playing sports year round, climbing trees, swimming in lakes, and in general just being what a kid is SUPPOSED to be. Base Building will ideally help recover from that neglect: it’s based around VERY light weights at high repetitions for the weight training portion of the programming, followed by walking on non-lifting days as a means to improve conditioning. Interestingly enough, the author ALSO speaks about the necessity of Base Building for those coming into Mass Building from a strength/power perspective: remarking on how all their time spent in the lower rep ranges to build maximal strength has unprepared them for the type of rep work in the Mass protocol. From my own experience of going from drinking the Pavel “no more than 5 reps” Koolaid to repetition effort work in Westside Barbell, I can attest to that reality: I was “strong”, but that all went away when I tried to do a set of 12.

MASS BUILDING

  • From Base Building, the book transitions to the actual Mass Protocol, broken down into 2 different sections: General Mass building, and Specialization. Once again: the naming conventions are on-the-nose: General Mass Building are the programs one would use to add some general size to their frame, and specialization is what Stuart McRobert would refer to as a “finishing” program, or what John McCallum would refer to as…specialization. It comes full circle folks. 5/3/1 BBB would be a great example of a “General Mass” style program: limited movements with a focus on hard work, whereas Building the Monolith could be seen as specialization: greater variety of assistance work and the emphasis on the yoke.

PROGRAMMING

  • Without giving out ALL the content of the book, there are about 4 different General Mass programs and 2 different Specialization ones, each designed for 3 week blocks, based on a percentage of your 1rm, after which time you’ll up the 1rm weight and continue. The author advocates a block/phasic approach to training based around these two protocols, with emphasis on one or the other dependent upon the trainee’s current proximity toward their goals. He actually has an entire section dedicated specifically toward discussing how to set up training blocks with these protocols in order to set up training blocks of various lengths (which is why I wrote that we could give this to a trainee and give them tools for life), and even includes ways to integrate programming from previous Tactical Barbell books to be able to set up phases of strength, hypertrophy and conditioning training. I really REALLY love that. Much like what Jim Wendler did with 5/3/1 Forever, but even MORE prescriptive, for those that choke on freedom.

CONDITIONING

  • It should shock absolutely no one that I was eager to get to the conditioning section of the book. Despite the fact that “Tactical Barbell II” is one of my favorite books because it contains SO many conditioning ideas, the author does a fantastic job of “keeping the goal the goal” here and prescribes conditioning protocols that are VERY bare bones and utilitarian to the cause of gaining mass. He frequently reminds the reader that the goal of mass building is TO BUILD MASS, and conditioning can quickly take away from that IF over/incorrectly utilized, thus he programs conditioning that is short and effective without so much intensity that it will burn out the trainee. Conditioning requirements differ between the General Mass programs and the Specificity programs, which is even more incentive to alternate between the two: an opportunity to vary your conditioning. Yet again: I really dig the prescriptiveness of this.

NUTRITION

  • I’ll admit flat out that I’m not a fan of the approach in the nutrition section, but I recognize this is a “me” issue. The author prescribes an approach based around macro and calorie counting, laying down the exact amount of calories the trainee should eat, how much protein they should eat, and then a macro percentage breakdown to determine how much else to eat to achieve their goals. I KNOW this method WILL flat out work: it’s just not how I like to do things. Along with that, he’s very adamant about the necessity of carbs for the process of mass building, but he DOES at least on multiple occasions say things to the effect of “I don’t recommend a low carb/keto approach to mass building…but maybe you can get away with it”, which I’ll take as full license to do exactly that.

  • But what I REALLY appreciate about the nutrition section is the blunt force instrument employed to the reader regarding WHY we’re eating this way: to gain mass. The author makes a point to say it’s better to overeat than undereat, that the hard work of the program is going to limit fat gain, that when we’re gaining mass we need to do the things necessary to actually gain mass, etc. The constant reinforcement of this is key, especially with so many junior trainees that are so brainwashed by the “365 abs” of social media that the notion of ever letting their midsection get blurry in the pursuit of actually putting on some muscle is completely alien. It’s refreshing to see someone really take nutrition to task.

  • The author also does a great job of emphasizing the value of wholesome, quality foods to achieve the nutrition goals, and he doesn’t shy away from meat to get protein. There is no appeal to a plant based approach here. He brings up quality protein supplements as well to bridge nutritional gaps, includes a brief discussion on supplements, advocates for a weekly cheat day, and does NOT try to find a way to make alcohol fit in the program. He even includes specific recommendations for skinnier trainees vs fatbody trainees, and details how to eat during the Base Building blocks vs the other blocks. Once again: everything you need to succeed.

SUMMARY

  • Once again, I am reviewing the book here, rather than the method, simply because I haven’t had an opportunity to employ it (yet: I’m excited to give it a try!). That said: this book is awesome. Its $10 on amazon and gives you all the tools you need to succeed in your training. It can be read in an afternoon, and re-read multiple times for inspiration. Even if none of this is new to you, it can be incredibly refreshing to strip things down to the basics and remember the HOW and WHY behind what we do.

  • Buy this book.

13 Comments
2024/09/07
00:41 UTC

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Simple Questions and Silly Thoughts: the basic questions and discussions thread for September 06, 2024

Welcome to the basic questions and discussions thread! This is a place to ask any questions that you may have -- moronic or otherwise and talk about how your going. Please keep these questions and discussions reasonably on-topic: things noted in the 'what not to post' section of the sidebar will be removed, and the moderation team may issue temporary user bans.Anyone may post a question, and the community as a whole is invited and encouraged to provide an answer. If your question is more specific to you, we recommend providing details. The more we know about your situation, the better answer we will be able to provide. Sometimes questions get submitted late enough in the day that they don't get much traction, so if your question didn't get answered in a previous thread, feel free to post it again.As always, please check the FAQ before posting. The FAQ is considered a comprehensive guide on how to gain lean mass and has more than enough information to get any beginner started today. Ask away!

18 Comments
2024/09/06
08:00 UTC

3

Thursday Self-reflection Thread

What's holding you back from making the biggest gains? What could you be doing better? Where could you be trying harder? What new habits could you enact to make things easier for you? Be honest with yourself, what would make a difference?

14 Comments
2024/09/05
08:00 UTC

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Good late night snacks?

I often find myself feeling hungry right before bed and I want to take advantage of it since my appetite is usually pretty low.

Anyone have some suggestions for some late night foods that don’t require much prep and have a good amount of calories?

Thanks!

11 Comments
2024/09/05
04:19 UTC

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Simple Questions and Silly Thoughts: the basic questions and discussions thread for September 04, 2024

Welcome to the basic questions and discussions thread! This is a place to ask any questions that you may have -- moronic or otherwise and talk about how your going. Please keep these questions and discussions reasonably on-topic: things noted in the 'what not to post' section of the sidebar will be removed, and the moderation team may issue temporary user bans.Anyone may post a question, and the community as a whole is invited and encouraged to provide an answer. If your question is more specific to you, we recommend providing details. The more we know about your situation, the better answer we will be able to provide. Sometimes questions get submitted late enough in the day that they don't get much traction, so if your question didn't get answered in a previous thread, feel free to post it again.As always, please check the FAQ before posting. The FAQ is considered a comprehensive guide on how to gain lean mass and has more than enough information to get any beginner started today. Ask away!

30 Comments
2024/09/04
12:00 UTC

2

Wednesday What Are You Eating Thread

Ask food related questions here. Discuss recipes. Share eating hacks. DON'T DRINK OLIVE OIL!!!

13 Comments
2024/09/04
08:00 UTC

2

Tuesday Training and Programming Discussion Thread

Have a question that is training or programming related? Ask it here! Want someone to help you revising or customising a program? Ask here! Want to show off a program you designed? Why are you designing your own programs? Read the bloody FAQ!.

1 Comment
2024/09/03
08:00 UTC

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Simple Questions and Silly Thoughts: the basic questions and discussions thread for September 02, 2024

Welcome to the basic questions and discussions thread! This is a place to ask any questions that you may have -- moronic or otherwise and talk about how your going. Please keep these questions and discussions reasonably on-topic: things noted in the 'what not to post' section of the sidebar will be removed, and the moderation team may issue temporary user bans.Anyone may post a question, and the community as a whole is invited and encouraged to provide an answer. If your question is more specific to you, we recommend providing details. The more we know about your situation, the better answer we will be able to provide. Sometimes questions get submitted late enough in the day that they don't get much traction, so if your question didn't get answered in a previous thread, feel free to post it again.As always, please check the FAQ before posting. The FAQ is considered a comprehensive guide on how to gain lean mass and has more than enough information to get any beginner started today. Ask away!

45 Comments
2024/09/02
16:00 UTC

1

Monday Motivation Thread

Discuss what's motivating you to get make gains here. What started you off? What keeps you going? What do you use to make sure you don't quit?

1 Comment
2024/09/02
08:01 UTC

3

Sunday Victory Thread

What have been your victories this week? Have you made good progress? Set a new lift PR? Enacted a new habit that is helping you greatly? Post it here!

7 Comments
2024/09/01
08:01 UTC

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