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A subreddit for general weight training discussion, focused on intermediate level and above in experience and strength, for those ranging from strength sport competitors, sports that benefit from weight training, or weight training enthusiasts. Or for people to tell /u/WeaponizedSleep to eat more.

This is a subreddit for general weight training discussion, focused on intermediate level and above in experience and strength, for those ranging from strength sport competitors, sports that benefit from weight training, or weight training enthusiasts.


Read the FAQ before posting questions.

Rules
  • No being a dick, slurs, or personal attacks
  • No arguing in bad faith
  • No natty/ROM/sumo/arch/fed/FFMI policing/jerks
  • No shitposting/low-effort/joke top-level comments outside the daily
  • No "What is powerlifting?" jerks.
  • No "strength standards compared to the general population" jerks.
  • No comments that are solely comprised of complaints or criticisms of other subs.
  • No piracy
  • No medical questions
  • No violating Reddit rules
  • The "MS Rule" - Users must actually read/view the content they are commenting on
  • Users must have flair (self-selected or otherwise) to post or make comments. Flair can be selected in the sidebar using a browser. Look for something that looks like this. Intermediate is simply defined as the point at which a lifter needs to be more thoughtful about their training.
  • The rules will not be applied identically to all users in WR. Regulars and people who have built a good rapport and reputation through consistently adding to our community - with their advice, camaraderie, contributions, and conduct - will get more leeway. They will get the benefit of the doubt.
  • There are minimum account age and karma requirements. If you have a brand new account, you must build karma in other subs before posting or commenting here.

Your thread belongs in the daily thread:

  • It's not a community discussion thread
  • It's just a video of someone lifting
  • It's a form check
  • It pertains to only you and not the larger community
  • It's a program analysis

Your post belongs on the main board:

  • It's a meet/show report (all barbell sports including bb are welcome)
  • It's a program review
  • It's a thread that pertains to community discussion
  • It's an interesting article or video (that is more than just someone lifting)

Things r/weightroom is:

  • A place to ask intelligent questions after you have been unable to find the answers on your own.

  • A place to post interesting content about lifting strategies, training theory, and information that can better lifters as a whole.

  • A gathering place for any and all iron pumpers, no matter your specialization.

  • A place where mods WILL delete any post we feel is not a good fit, regardless of any sidebar or FAQ statements. A post doesn't have to violate a rule to suck, sometimes people get creative.

  • A place where mods WILL ban people who are more trouble than they're worth, regardless of any sidebar or FAQ statements. A user doesn't have to violate a rule to suck, sometimes people get creative.

What r/weightroom isn't:

  • This is not a place for questions that can be answered via a quick google search.

  • This is not a place for memes or rage comics or things that provide no value.

  • This is not a place for you to post "NSVs", "I just did x!" threads, or any threads where the only discussion to be had is congratulating the OP. There are lots of places to post those kinds of threads. This isn't one of them.

  • This is not a place for repetitive questions and critiques of routines that have been posted 100 other times. You are more than welcome to design your own program, just don't expect to get feed back on it from here unless it's interesting and serves a unique purpose.

  • This is not a place to question BP's silliness


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[Program Review] (Half of) Dan John's 10,000 Kettlebell Swing Workout

My gym closes over the winter break, so instead of finding another gym, I decided to try Dan John's 10,000 Kettlebell Swing Workout. Since I only had two weeks instead of four, I set out to do 5,000 swings before my gym reopened.

 

Being the lifetime intermediate free-thinking creative that I am, I decided to do five straight sets of 100 swings instead of the clusters that Dan recommends. I felt the larger sets would save me from having to constantly start and stop, and let me get into a groove to hone my swing technique. To start conservatively, I rested for double the time it took to complete each set, and did no other exercises between sets.

 

About me: 33/M, ~320 DOTS powerlifter, former rower. I don't have my aerobic base from rowing anymore, but I still have big hands and a tolerance for boring, painful workouts, all of which came in handy for the program.

 


Workout 1: 38'54"

I did my first two sets with a 16kg bell to get a sense of how much it was going to suck. It didn't, so I switched to my 24kg bell for the remainder of the program. Then, it began to suck. The last 20-30 swings of the last two sets were tough to hold onto and involved quite a bit of huffing and puffing, but the rests were long enough to recover from set to set. My lower back and forearms were pumped to death by the end of it, and I was starving hungry - fearful being recovered for the next workout, I ate and slept as much as I could. I took a day off and then began the two-on-one-off structure that Dan recommends thereafter.

##Adding Movements Given the (relative) success of the first workout, I decided that for subsequent sessions, during the rest period, I'd do the following superset:

  • Dumbbell curl 1x25
  • Dumbbell French press 1x25

I only had a single 15lb dumbbell so it was four sets total in about three minutes, after which I'd rest the remaining two before starting the next set of swings. Dan recommends a compound exercise between clusters and sets, but I didn't have anything heavier than my 24kg kettlebell, and didn't want to aggravate my shoulders with pushups or push presses. Plus, who doesn't love big arms?

 

Workouts 2-7: 34'27"

The first back-to-back workout scared me, but it ended up being fine - I was eating and sleeping well so it was mostly just the workout anxiety I had to contend with.

Over these workouts, the main antagonist of this program began to rear its head: boredom. By the fifth workout, I felt I'd adapted to the stresses of the program, and was no longer dealing with awful soreness or workout anxiety. I hummed through the sets of 100 and felt disappointed that the challenging part of the program was over. So, I resolved to spice things up.

 

#Workout 8: 27'36" I decided to try getting my workout time as low as possible. I dropped the arm workouts between sets, and alternated sets of 50 and 100, with 90s and 3min of rest after each respectively. This let me get under 30min without trouble. While I was still bored of the workout itself, I liked where it was heading, and started thinking about getting my time under 20min.

 

#Workout 9: 19'09" To get under 20min, I needed to cut rest times as short as possible, and make the sets as big as possible. But I couldn't just do back-to-back sets of 100 without blowing up my forearms - so I came up with the following set scheme:

  • 100 > 50 > 50 > 100 > 50 > 50 > 100

With 60s rest between each set, the two sets of 50 would give me a chance to recuperate my grip between the sets of 100. This would get me under 20min with some wiggle room if I could hold onto the kettlebell throughout - which I did! I was pretty anxious before this workout, but it ended up not being as difficult as I thought. It still sucked, but not as badly as I feared. With a sub-20min time under my belt, I was pretty satisfied, and decided that for the tenth workout, I'd take it as a victory lap, and do the OG program than Dan lays out just for fun.

 

#Workout 10: 27'55" This is where I discovered that I was an idiot and should have just started the program as Dan had laid it out. With nothing left to gain, I did the 100-swing clusters of 10/15/25/50, with sets of 2/3/5 16kg single-arm kettlebell push presses in between. Feeling confident, I decided not to rest within clusters, only resting for 2min between clusters.

I finally understood. The swings made it difficult to push press. The push presses made it difficult to swing. The clusters forced you to work while recovering from another movement. All of my trunk stabilizers were ablaze. I had committed the sin of confusing journey with destination. I felt alive.

 


Lessons Learned

The first lesson is, do the program as it's laid out before you make any adjustments. While I'm glad I did the challenging sets of 100 and really nailed my swing technique, I feel like I missed out on a lot of the journey by trying to "optimize" my path to 5,000.

The second lesson is, push yourself. As soon as you feel like you're comfortable with the workout, start making it difficult for yourself. If you feel like you could beast out more swings per set, don't do that - play to your weaknesses. Cut your rest times or something instead. Suffer!

With regards to swing technique, it took me about 3,500 swings to feel dialled-in. You really want to "catch" the kettlebell with your hamstrings in the bottom position - don't try and slow it down with arm-to-thigh contact. And when you "snap" into the "upright plank" position, it's important to lift your chest up and look ahead, or you'll cheat yourself out of that end range of motion, and your glutes will be sad.

 

Conclusion

I am glad that the program "clicked" eventually - better late than never. Next year, I will challenge myself with doing the full 10,000 in the two-week period (715 swings/day, anyone?), or stick to 5,000 and treat myself to a 32kg bell. And this time, I'd just do what Dan says and go from there.

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2025/01/10
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