Is there a character you don't like but perhaps came across a fan fic that made you appreciate the character?

I wasn't too sure if I should ask this in the LGBT subreddit or the television one or something like that, but eventually concluded fanfiction is a good space for it since it's queer friendly and media connoisseurs.

Therefore, here is my question: which queer ships do you think should've been canon and whould've been if writers weren't too chicken?

And to be clear, I am specifically asking about ships that were truly written with a strong homoerotic subtext that is actually pointed out whatever it's by the actors, the writers or characters in the media. For example, Sterek, Drarry, Faberry, Stucky, Steddie or Wolfstar wouldn't be considered in this category even if they're populars because they weren't written this way (and it's fine if you think they should have been a couple anyway, I just think there is a difference between what is purposely played this way and what is not/accidental so they're not the target of this post).

Here's mine:

• Steve McGarrett/Danny "Danno" Williams from Hawaii 5-0

They're literally driving me crazy, like at one point it wasn't even subtext anymore. They didn't even need a big coming out party or something, they could have just said "surprise, we are dating" and nobody would've actually been surprised. Both the actors were actually aware of the ship and open to it becoming canon. There's literally an episode where Steve is watching The Notebook with his girlfriend, Danny and Danny's daughter, Grace. You would think the couple would be together, well-- Steve and his girlfriend are actually on the opposite of the couch, with Steve having his arm around Danny (the cuddling was an idea of Scott, the actor playing Danny). Many characters think they're dating or married. They're co-parenting Danno's kids. Once they went to a getaway with their girlfriends for Valentine's Day, but ended up spending the whole trip together and at the end, when they went on a double date, Steve and Danny were sitting next to each other with Steve's arm around Danny, stroking his ear. In another episode, Danny imagine his future and Steve is always here. He sees himself as an old man, sitting in a rocking chair next to Steve while they watch the sunset.

And I am just scratching the tip of the iceberg with these examples.

• Merlin/Arthur Pendragon from Merlin

Do I even need to argument here? The creator of the show himself said “We did, very genuinely, think of the episode as a love story between two men. Which is what I think it is." and “well, he’s dying, the man he loves is dying, so he’s holding him.” to which McGrath replied “I think you maybe just confirmed what a lot of people thought,”. She also said “You can’t deny that Merlin and Arthur do love each other, you know? In whatever love way you want to think, there is no denying.”

• James T. Kirk/Spock from Star Trek

I mean this one is kinda obvious because Spirk invented gays and fanfictions, but I still had to put them here because DUH.

• Steve Rogers/Tony Stark from Marvel Comics

There is literally an universe where they are married. The difference? They made Tony a woman here. It's explained that the Civil War didn't happen because Captain America and Iron Man were banging. And like, if your first instinct after making one of them a woman is to hook them up... I feel like it's pretty gay to begin with. And you can be sure the subtext is here! Tony literally had a whole room with posters of just Steve where he goes crying after Steve died. "This country needs a Captain America. Especially Now. Can't you see how soothing it would be for people-- knowing that Captain America will live on?" "People? Or you, Tony? You don't know how to handle it, do you? The grief. the pain. the loss..". Tony saying “Guess they'll have to learn to love me. You did.” to Steve's dead body. Evil Captain America telling “I know every thought he ever had about you, for instance. He loved you. He loved you, and he admired you. Even when you fought.” to Tony's comatose body. Often referenced as the mom and dad of the Avengers, with characters telling them to get a room and Clint saying he feels like the fifth wheel (with Wanda, Vision, Steve and Tony). They're compared to canon couples. Tony said the best day of his life was the day he found Steve. Steve feeling like he lost everything when he woke up in this era, that he had no one and nothing but then said Tony made him feel hope again. That he gave him a home. One of the writers, Hickman, made Steve obsessed with Tony. Like the world was ending, and Steve said the only thing he could think about was Tony because of how angry he was and Hickman compared it to a married couple where one cheat on the other and not being able to to get over this betrayal. Also he jokely said Tony gave Steve a BJ as a make-up gift.

I need to stop here because, just like Mcdanno, I'm just scratching the tip of the iceberg here.

• Troy Barnes/Abed Nadir from Community

I actually think the writers may have purposely made the homoerotic subtext between them so strong to make fun of the bromance trope, but well it just makes them very gay for each other. Like Abed is literally referred as Troy's boyfriend. They made Troy jealous of Abed's new friend and had Britta compare their relationship with her and her ex. The whole "I love you" "I know" reference. They're basically a couple that doesn't kiss. But they should have!

• Evan "Buck" Buckley/Eddie Diaz from 9-1-1

I am pretty sure this one is about to be canon very soon, which would a huge win. Mcdanno literally walked so Buddie could run! Co-workers? check. Co-parenting? check. People thinking they're a couple? check. Paralleling the other canon couples? check.

PS: I am not here to start ship wars, so please be kind. I am just curious which queer ships do you think was genuinely robbed because watching Buddie being so close to be canon made me realize of how rare it is. Destiel was such a mess that I hardly count it as a win to be honest. And I think it's sad how many ships could have been canon if they weren't afraid to have their main characters be queer.

This idea hasn’t been able to leave me

I apologise I am terrible with writing and this is just spurting out of my brain

After Jason is Killed Bruce immediately goes to hunt down joker. The league search Gotham for him Clark and Diana enter an old run down factory and hear the sound of heavy metal smashing into flesh they run and find Bruce punching joker repeatedly. His gauntlets are broken and his knuckles bleeding. Joker face is unrecognisable and yet he still laughs over and over the ground cracked under him Bruce smashing blows over and over. Completely silent. Clark runs and grabs him starts screaming and flaying then goes still and looks to his belt. Diana knows what’s they’re and grabs his hand pushing Clark away Bruce is holding kryptonite there scared and realise he’s willing to hurt them to kill the clown. They have to lock him up in the watch tower to keep him safe and stop him killing the joker he’s constantly trying to escape and it’s clear his minds and will is broken. They have to go to the cave and they find his contingency for if he ever breaks mentally and becomes willing to kill it has a number which they call and Constantine shows up and starts to fix his mind it takes time. They then put him in therapy with Diana using her lasso so he can speak the truth. It’s all recorded.

These recordings are shown to Jason after he breaks down during a meeting. Insulting Bruce Diana saying nothing looks at Clark and they both agree they play the video it’s brutal. Bruce is weeping about failing to save the person who matters most. They then explain he regularly comes back for session. And non of them know how the clown survived they show the photos of what it looked like taken by the police which was covered up. Joker on all accounts should have died. His face was putty so so many bones broken a crowbar shoved through his chest. Bruce was terrifying and just completely illogical his blows were random and hard.

Bruce keeps his broken gauntlets next to Jason’s old suit as a reminder. He also now has a explosive device similar to the suicide squad only Alfred has access to in an emergency Bruce doesn’t remember this it’s the only way he could feel safe

It's a Mia and Brian story

The Torreto crew go on vacation to Miami where they run into Brian. I remember the last chapter had Brian get hurt by a car from saving Letty, it was on Fanfiction.net.

What are your thoughts on female characters who are adults being happy sex workers ?

For some reason I don’t like reading crossover fanfics. AUs and self insert OCs I’m ok with but for some reason I don’t like reading crossovers

Welcome back to the Alphabet Excerpt Challenge! As a reminder, our challenges are every Wednesday and Saturday at 3pm London time.

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1. Post a top level comment with a word starting with the letter L. You can do more than one, but please put them in separate comments.
2. Reply to suggestions with an excerpt. Short and sweet is best, but use your judgement. Excerpts can be from published or unpublished works, or even something you wrote for the prompt.
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4. Most important: have fun!

For example, the characters always have a fridge full of food, so you write about the grocery shopping. The characters have cars; you write about handling insurance and going to the DMV. The characters live in a huge mansion or castle; you write about them (or someone else) sweeping the floors and patching the roof. What boring bits of reality do you delight in making readers sit though? Alternatively, what are the best examples of this that you've seen in other work?

….by small, i mean NON EXISTENT. I have seen ONE piece of fanart, 0 fics across all any fanfic website i could think of, and 0 analyses. Maybe a review or two here and thee, but only of the pilot episode. Literally ALMOST NO TRACES of it on the internet…

I hope I don’t come off as a whiny snob — I’m just venting my frustration, really. I’m really getting into the source material so far and its ending was such a letdown and invitation for fix it fics, but the show itself isn’t even a tag on ao3.

I used to think 1k fics was small. HOLY COW, I’m never complaining again. It’s just so frustrating because I really love some of the characters in this show and its concept is unique and interesting to me , and want to see more interpretations of them - especially because my own fanwork is usually fuelled by that.

I’ll comment the context/name if the show below in case it isn’t allowed and the post gets taken down

I just need to vent. A few years ago, I started a Discord server for my readers, and if you’ve seen my previous posts, you know how that’s been going. Within that community, I believed I formed a genuine friendship with one particular member. We talked about everything—our favorite characters, fic ideas, hobbies, and even personal things.

I’ve been fortunate with my engagement—I’m not trying to brag, but my work has consistently received a generous amount of feedback. Unfortunately, this person hasn’t experienced the same level of success.

Lately, I’ve noticed an undercurrent of hostility and resentment whenever we talk and they always inevitably bring up engagement. They’ve also developed a pattern of behavior that makes me uncomfortable. They actively seek out writers whose works attract attention, try to befriend them, shower their pieces with kudos and comments, and then become furious when they don’t receive the same level of engagement in return. It feels very transactional, as if they engage with others solely to boost their own stats.

I can’t believe it’s taken me this long to realize they were doing the same with me.

Some of their remarks indicate they’re quite aware of the stats on my work and several others in comparison to their own, as if they’re monitoring them almost daily.

I have to believe that you can find friendships within fandom that are not like this. But more and more I find myself wanting to go back to just posting my works and retreating back into my shell. It was much easier to navigate emotionally.

It’s disheartening to think that what I believed was a meaningful connection was merely a strategy for them. I just needed to get this off my chest. Thanks for reading.

Mine would be

1. Overuse of italics for emphasis

2. Adding in quotes from the canon but in a way that changes the original meaning, usually by being said by the wrong character.

3. A character confidently stating a fact only to immediately cut to a scene proving them wrong.

Now you! What tropes, tricks, themes, word choices ect, would potentially mark a fic out as belonging to you?

I took part in a recent challenge and wrote 7 fanfics in 7 days. Each one was 300-1000 words. I wrote them one per day, barely edited, and still they got several comments each and 25+ kudos per every one.

My large fic's chapters are 3-5 k words and got 2-5 comments max. One chapter takes several days or weeks to write and edit.

Is that because readers prefer finished works even if they are tiny? Perhaps, my large fic is not for everyone too, with some specific tags. And its plot may be a bit too tangled. But such difference is still jarring.

The Starry Sky and the Deep Sea is a Charles/Erik X-Men AU. A retelling of the Little Mermaid in space. Charles is a star fascinated by humans who ends up exiled, silenced, and trapped in a human body on Captain Lehnsherr's ship.

There is a Chinese translation still up on ao3, but the original English post is locked in an unrevealed collection.

Does anyone have any good sites with fanfic prompts? I know of some of the generators, like the OTP generators, and I am either looking for something similar to this, or something more like "one prompt per each day for the month", like inktober but not for drawings and not for October, lmao.

I'm looking for a deleted or lost fanfiction of female Harry Potter is found by Cavallone Famiglia fanfiction she was also experimented on

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I love, love, love AU fics so give me any recommendations you got! I've got a few fandoms that I've been frequenting lately like Merlin, Batfam, The Magnus Archives, The Hobbit, The Witcher and Marvel which I would prefer but if you adore a certain AU fic then hand em over!

Even if you don't have any specific recs, let me know your fav AU so I can be on the look out for any in my fandoms <3

I've been reading this amazing fic and for the last 9 chapters the author's note has had something like "this one isn't my favorite..." or " this is kind of a rough draft chapter :/" and it's always without fail some of the best damn work I've ever read, like brought me into tear and entered my dreams kind of work! Remember you are your own worst critic and your work is truly a service!

It boggles my mind when I see some people posting here about how they’ve received comments demanding they change the plot of their story, or write a different story, or to post on a regular schedule, or even comments containing completely unhinged rants saying authors should suffer and die because the reader didn’t like a story.

I just can’t wrap my head around how some people get the idea that authors who use their free time to provide stories for FREE, owe them anything at all. I just don’t understand how it’s possible to get into that mindset. You’re getting free shit, and no one is forcing you to read it. How dare you complain about it???

I’m looking for this very specific scum villain, self saving system fanfiction where. It comes out that Shen jiu is an omega and when he was a slave, he had to kill his newborn and that like traumatized him and affected him really bad mentally so when he became a adult, he killed several of his favorite disciples and almost killed Binghe when they became sick as sort of a mercy kill, they’re not gonna make it type thing. After this comes out, it’s decided to give legal custody to LBH as he’s the only alphaSQQ has a bond with. I forget some of it goes butLBH gets him a doctor therapist type person and put him on medication. Some really fucks him up he tears up his garde

Hi everyone!

Years and years ago I read a fic called The College Years by thegirlwhoblockedherownshot. It was a human/angel college AU. The author has since deleted it from fanfic.net, however, recently, I’ve found a different fic from the same author now under a new name (intothesilentland on AO3). I have no idea if these accounts are under the same person.

Anyway, is The College Years out and about on AO3?

intothesilentland/thegirlwhoblockedherownshot, if you’re on the subreddit, I just wanted to let you know that your fics fundamentally changed me as a writer and person, and your writing remains the only writing I’ve ever cried to. Thanks!

How do you guys organize your fic library mostly what I read is on ao3 but I save the fics into my safari instead and my system was working before but it’s getting overwhelming

I feel tremendously stupid when I say "sorry, I didn't finish the book" to the person that was so sure I "wouldn't pass this one!". But the act of reading is so tedious to me... I know it's a muscle, I know I may didn't have found the right books. But I read I'd say five books or so this year, I finished none of them. Classics or others, it was just a pain in the ass. I feel like there is a act of intimacy in reading that isn't present in other media. Like you're one on one with the author, you see? I don't feel that as much with fanfics tho. I'm not reading long fanfics (only one shots) but only because I'm kinda fandom free at the moment.

But I love writing! And actually, I'm forcing myself to read only to be a better writer because it's a tips that is often given to aspiring writers. But I think that if I fundamentally don't understand what can make a book enjoyable, I wouldn't spark the same enjoyment in my writings.

What do you think about it?

I'm writing a story about an abusive relationship where the female is the abuser and the male is the victim. The male discovers the female in a terrible situation and helps her out. Initially, they experience true love, but over time, the female begins to dominate and harm the male for her own pleasure. How would I write this accurately without offending victims and staying true to the media?

Hello there. Good to see you again. It's been quite a while since we did this. You know the rules (and so do I~♪), make a post themed off of one of your fics (you can do multiple fics, just do them in separate comments) in the style of a post from r/offmychest or r/TrueOffMyChest from one of your fic's characters (oc or cc allowed), comment on others, and upvote the posts you enjoyed reading.

The topic can be about concerns over relationships, recent successes, painful failures, long time regrets, current delights, upcoming worries, past reliefs, traumatic experiences, secrets the character wants to tell anyone, lies they wish they could stop upkeeping, truths they wish to tell, or the aftereffects of any of these things, just about anything. So long as it's something on their chest that they feel they should confess.

Tagged as NSFW so if you want to talk about darker stuff, you don't have to worry this time! And well, the latter subreddit mentioned is also dealing often with more dark topics in their posts, also why the tag. Do make sure to mention what triggers could be in the post beforehand.

Have fun, and show off your character's posts!

Hi y’all!

I have had this fairly popular longfic that I haven’t updated for several years after leaving it on a cliffhanger. I got burnt out writing it, unfortunately.

I finally have the inspiration to write it again! However, my writing style has changed significantly and I’ve improved as a writer since then. It’s rather clear that it was the first fic that I’ve written and that I still was getting the grips of formatting on AO3 while writing it. Additionally, I do think that I did unintentionally utilised some heteronormative tropes in it, and perhaps some of the darker topics could have used some more care. Nobody really commented anything like that (all I got were loving comments) but it’s something I’ve realized upon rereads.

Admittedly, part of me don’t want people to read it and think that it’s representative of my current writing now. I’m tempted to just write a one shot I stead of the pairing.

However, I truly do love the pairing and there are aspects of it I am truly proud of, and I think the readers deserve better than just leaving everything on a cliffhanger.

Any advice on what I should do?

How do I make the parents ( really) strict? Like super controlling about stuff. ( this are the parents from the mean characters bf. )

I'm not whining, I swear, but I'm mystified. I cross-post on the Big Two, and I get a fair amount of hits on ff.net (for me; I write relatively small fandoms and very long works) but I haven't gotten any comments in literally years. Got notified about story favorites and author favorites, but not comments. I've checked my settings and they seem to allow comments ... am I missing something, or is it just ... what it is?