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We're like /r/Badhistory, minus the effort! Because we're already too brain-dead from the mind-boggling bad history.

Or too drunk. Meh, what's the difference?

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Rule 1: No voting in linked threads. Evidence of downvote brigades will result in a warning, followed by deletion of the thread. /r/badhistory2 is not a place to come running for reinforcements when in a discussion on Reddit.

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Rule 2: No current (post-Cold War) political badhistory posts, or comments. Discussion of politics within a historical context, and bad history by current political figures are allowed. The discussion of modern politics, however, is not allowed.

Rule 2a: Bad history comparing current political figures or events to the past are not allowed. Check /r/panichistory, /r/godwinslaw, /r/badpolitics or /r/conspiratard to see if your post should go there.

Rule 3: Blatant conspiracy theories should be posted to /r/conspiratard. However, we do not wish to discourage the posting of bad history that is an underlying part of a conspiracy theory. Please use your best judgment and apply the "reasonable person" standard when unsure.

Rule 4: Please remain civil when commenting. We ask that you do not insult others, or spew racist/bigoted garbage. Further, use of derogatory slurs, inappropriate accusations of mental illness or disability, and so on, will lead to removal of the comment and possibly a warning or ban if deemed appropriate.


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Real world Native American religious thought has included the founding fathers. And remember, Washington, Franklin, Paine, Jefferson, and Madison, all wanted to bring the Native Americans into the USA as equals. They were men of the Enlightenment. It's the Romantics, men like Henry Clay, Andrew Jackson, and Jefferson Davis, who wanted to exclude the Native Americans. Both Washington and Franklin stated that the future America would be a cultural blend of Native American and European.

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2019/12/27
21:04 UTC

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I’ve read about the Spanish’s first interactions with people in the Americas. They were horrified by a whole lot of what they saw..

I’ve read about the Spanish’s first interactions with people in the Americas. They were horrified by a whole lot of what they saw. Does that excuse them acting like assholes? No. Was this particular priest a douche? Probably.

They also hated LGBTQ People being Respected. And I wouldn’t call destroying a Entire Cultures Books a “Douche”

But most people these days erroneously think that it was all puppies and kittens before Europeans entered the Americas. If you dropped a modern person into Mayan society, they’d have been horrified as well.

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2019/07/12
12:55 UTC

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>I’ve read about the Spanish’s first interactions with people inthe Americas. They were horrified bya whole lot of what they saw. Does that excuse them acting like assholes? a douche? Probably.

I’ve read about the Spanish’s first interactions with people in the Americas. They were horrified by a whole lot of what they saw. Does that excuse them acting like assholes? No. Was this particular priest a douche? Probably.

But most people these days erroneously think that it was all puppies and kittens before Europeans entered the Americas. If you dropped a modern person into Mayan society, they’d have been horrified as well

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2019/07/12
12:44 UTC

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sexually progressive cultures gave us literature, philosophy, civilization and the rest, while sexually restrictive cultures gave us the Dark Ages and the Holocaust.” ― Alan Moore, 25,000 Years of Erotic Freedom

what cultures is MR Moore talking about Ancient Greece and Rome? cultures that had Child Sex slaves.

http://theconversation.com/the-grim-reality-of-the-brothels-of-pompeii-88853

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2019/05/09
15:13 UTC

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Claim from the Alt-Right of no African inventions.

Peace everyone. I keep hearing this claim that Sub-Saharan Africans had made no inventions which i completely disagree.I am very certain it's a lie because i currently know 2 African Americans that invented stuff like Vivian Thomas who developed the procedures used to treat blue baby syndrome in the 1940s and Jerry Lawson who invented the Video Game Cartridge.

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2018/10/11
08:03 UTC

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Facts about the famous Sarajevo assassination

History and many historical books teach us that the Sarajevo assassination was the cause of the outbreak of the First World War. However, many historians agree that this event when Gavrilo Princip (a member of the movement called Mlada Bosna) on June 28, 1914 fired bullets and killed Franz Ferdinand and his wife Sofia, launched a series of events that had the beginning of the First World war. The secret organization of Mlada Bosna aimed at firing the Austro-Hungarian rule in Bosnia and Herzegovina by rebellions and assassinations. We are talking about historical facts since 103 years ago, and historians say no assassination in contemporary history has left such a mark as the Sarajevo assassination.

https://en.posjeti.ba/2018/10/10/facts-about-the-famous-sarajevo-assassination/

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2018/10/10
19:55 UTC

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Idiot never heard of the close calls we had over the years involving nuclear weapons.

https://donotlink.it/9rZK Here he claims the Doomsday clock is gobalist propaganda

With the end of the Cold War, the "Doomsday Clock" ™, though still "calculated" each year, faded into irrelevancy. But now, thanks to America's 'withdrawal from world leadership,' the Globalist-manufactured 'North Korean crisis" ™, and Trump's abdication of responsibility for 'Climate Change' ™, the minute-hand of the commie cuckoo-clock has been moved ahead by an additional 30 seconds from last year's advance.

Three generations of high and mighty (and oh-so-serious-looking) "scientists" have had their cuckoo-clock at minutes-to-midnight for 70 years now. The goofy game is up --- time to find real jobs, professors! We hold true men of science in very high regard. However, not all those claiming to be practitioners of science know what the heck they are talking about. Their ignorance can be even more pronounced when they wander off into to matters political and philosophical. Apart from the fact that many of these academic ass-clowns are just well-paid liars, there is also a whole category of 'scientists' that fit the observation once made by James Watson – a co-discoverer of the DNA double-helix structure:

And off course he was an authority himself right? This link shows many times fingers were on the button: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nuclear_close_calls

The threat was a real possibility even if we were luck for it to not occur. Saying it didn't happen so what is very stupid. Calling the conceded foolish in that reason alone shows an immaturity and unwillingness to leave your political bubble.

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2018/09/13
21:56 UTC

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In which a jurist for public office attempts a patch rollback but forgot to read the dev notes

Link: http://edition.cnn.com/2017/12/10/politics/kfile-roy-moore-aroostook-watchmen/index.html

Let's be Britta and excuse the racism. The hilarious bad history is that in maintaining that government structure would be better wiping out everything after the 10th Amendment, he forgets the 12th Amendment without whose existence Hillary Clinton would have become Vice President last year.

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2017/12/11
07:21 UTC

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ColdFusion gives us some bad computer history with "The Greatest Story Ever Told"

So, I see that this sub has been inactive for a year, but I have nowhere else to post this to, as /r/badhistory rejected it.

So, I discovered this documentary about the history of the computer called The Greatest Story Ever Told by the YouTube channel ColdFusion. It's a very well made video, but unfortunately, it has a lot of bad history in it. Here's a comment by YouTube user DrexFactor Poi that calls it out better than I ever could:

Sooo...this is a really slick video but there are some pretty major holes and outright factually incorrect information in it. I've just started watching your channel and have really been enjoying a lot of the videos. Normally I find what you have to say informative and especially your insight into business and economics are awesome when analyzing contemporary tech companies--but I think before doing videos like this again in the future you maybe ought to take some more time with your research. Aside from the fact that I'm baffled how there was no coverage of Bletchley Park, Alan Turing (and let's face it--if we're going to give the space program credit for jumpstarting the demand for ICs credit has to be give to codebreaking in World War II for crossing many of the original design hurdles of creating electronic computing machines), or even the Altair (seriously--how do you do a video on the story of personal computing and leave out the first one ever to come to market?), your assertion that Konrad Zuse was the first person to think of applying binary arithmetic to mechanical computing is just straight-up wrong. The first person to suggest it and try to build a machine around the concept was Gottfriend Liebniz and he did so nearly 250 years before Zuse was born. Zuse absolutely deserves credit for creating the first Turing-complete electro mechanical computer, but calling the use of binary calculation his innovation is oversimplification to the point of falsehood. He was making use of centuries of published mathematical theory, including Turing's. Also: Microsoft didn't do anything illegal when they created Windows. Nor did Jobs make a mistake in approaching Microsoft to create software for the Macintosh. Jobs knew as well as anybody that beautiful hardware was useless without having software that people wanted to use to run on it. At the time, Microsoft was writing the most popular software in the world. Having them port that software over to the Mac wasn't just a good idea--it was a smart business move to compete with IBM. Why should people switch platforms if they'd be unable to use the software that the needed if they did so? Jobs knew that the development of a GUI for PCs was inevitable, so he didn't try to prevent it. The contract between Microsoft and Apple specified a non-compete agreement through to the projected launch date of the Macintosh. Due to delays in the development and manufacturing of the Mac, that launch date was pushed back several months. Though it wasn't specified in the contract, Jobs assumed that Microsoft would honor the non-compete agreement through to the new launch date. They didn't. They developed and released windows after the original launch date specified in the contract, thus putting Windows on the market before the Macintosh. They didn't steal from Jobs any more than he stole from Xerox. They did the exact same thing he did in putting technology for which the knew there would be demand on the market. The bone of contention between Apple and Microsoft was over when those products came to market and Jobs bristling over what he felt was a third-rate hack of software he'd spent so much time and attention cultivating.

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2017/10/28
20:14 UTC

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The only historian to be vetted as objective by the government agency spying on him

Found this while browsing George Rude's Wikipedia article.

One agent noted: "history books of which he is the author and reports of his class work at schools in England all show that he is objective in his approach to his teaching subject and has not let his own personal politics intrude in any way".

Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Rud%C3%A9 H-France Source: http://www.h-france.net/rude/2005conference/Friguglietti1.pdf#search='british%20marxist%20historian%

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2016/09/12
23:36 UTC

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Some good history, some bad history, some hyperbole, some genocide Olympics - /r/SubredditDrama discusses tragedies in history.

There's some current event stuff as well, but topics range from the Taliban vs mujahideen, atomic bombings, American Civil War, the Mongols, the trail of tears, and the holocaust. Not everything is bad history, but there's a lot that is.

https://np.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/5248zo/drama_in_rnyc_over_whether_or_not_911_was_the/

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2016/09/11
13:16 UTC

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2016/08/18
18:32 UTC

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So Battlefield "1" based on World War I does not have France as a playable faction...

It's been confirmed they are not playable although that may change.

Here's a Frenchman's rant at the vexing snub of his ancestors who fought pretty heroically.

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2016/06/14
15:54 UTC

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The Moral Rubicon

The video speaks for it self., early talk about "the real Jews", "the real holocaust" and too much pseudo-scientific historical revisionism to list it all.

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2016/05/10
04:44 UTC

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Rational Wiki fails to be rational about Jesus Myth Theory

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2016/03/30
10:51 UTC

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The War on Terror's failure can be blamed on Middle Eastearners

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2016/03/25
22:33 UTC

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2016/03/21
02:15 UTC

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extra history episode 1232435

looks like the best way to avoid talking shit is letting someone else do the talk

link

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2016/02/29
17:11 UTC

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Because folks in the past were stupid, unlike us modern people.

This entire thread..

The most reasonable answer was whore.

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2016/02/17
04:36 UTC

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TL;DR - MTV Doesn't Understand History

Video in question: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=860FnDGISNg

The video addresses a recent video made by MTV making some extraordinary statements, many of with were misguiding at best and out-right lies at worse. I know this is a controversial topic, and I have no problem with expressing opinions or making a point, but when a a huge company like MTV uses it's platform to deceive and out-right lie to an audience, to present verifiable false statements as historical truth then there is a problem.

Could this be considered historical revisionism? I don't know, that's what I hope someone tells me.

EDIT: All the sources are provided in the video descriptions with additional in a comment by the autor that I will copy here:

http://www.aaregistry.org/historic_events/view/black-surgeon-performs-first-sucessful-open-heart-surgery-america http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0003497510607217 https://www.dartmouth.edu/~humananatomy/part_4/chapter_23.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Dalton http://mail.blockyourid.com/~gbpprorg/invention/heartsurgery.html http://www.encyclopediaofalabama.org/article/h-2949

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_folk_music https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_music_%28North_America%29

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbGkxcY7YFU

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-irish-slave-trade-the-forgotten-white-slaves/31076 http://www.asian-nation.org/first.shtml https://www.opendemocracy.net/beyondslavery/liam-hogan/%E2%80%98irish-slaves%E2%80%99-convenient-myth http://www.jstor.org/stable/25118876 http://www.historynet.com/were-the-irish-slaves.htm

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2016/02/16
20:01 UTC

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A US no-fly zone over Iraqi Kurdistan in 1991 solved all of its problems once and for all. ONCE AND FOR ALL!

I've noticed many writers trying to apply dangerous blanket statements when invoking history to make their political points.

Link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-big-hole-in-obamas-islamic-state-strategy/2015/12/07/04ce2d16-9d01-11e5-bce4-708fe33e3288_story.html

What would a revived Sunni heartland in Iraq and Syria look like? Well, you can get a pretty good idea by examining Iraqi Kurdistan. It flowered under a U.S. no-fly zone known as Operation Provide Comfort that started in 1991. Under this protective cover, investment, security and political stability came together in a virtuous cycle.

This sounds like some Confucius-level revisionist history if he had used harmonious instead of virtuous.

What actually happened was a three year civil war between two rival Kurdish factions that killed thousands of fighters and civilians; that division still continues to this day although that's more /r/badgeopolitics.

Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_Kurdish_Civil_War

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2016/02/11
14:31 UTC

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Elected governor of South Carolina: "we’ve never in the history of this country passed any laws or done anything based on race or religion."

Link: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/nikki-haley-tells-trump-things-personally/story?id=36274955

This is a current political figure, and an elected one, commenting on American history.

“When you’ve got immigrants that are coming here legally, we’ve never in the history of this country passed any laws or done anything based on race or religion. Let’s not start that now."

Yes, yes we have. There's the Chinese Exclusion Act and immigration quotas by country for starters but South Carolina has especially had a long history of race codes.

While anti-religion was never codified or highly popular, there is a long history of anti-Catholicism ranging from the 1920's KKK to decades of legal action both on the state and federal level against Catholic parochial schools.

It's great to see an official repudiating a public figure's own bigotry and bad history (Trump could fill a /r/badhistory3 alone) but sanitizing the truth to do so is still bad history.

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2016/01/15
23:19 UTC

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2015/12/03
08:50 UTC

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Before the rise of nation-states, every country had open migration with every country.

Source

R5: Nope, ancient and medieval civilizations did not have open borders. This statement:

What’s more, the notion of “open borders” which held true in the centuries prior has now been sacrificed out of concern for the welfare state, specifically the benefits offered for native-born American citizens.

can be debunked by looking at over 2,000 years of expulsions and deportations of Jews alone.

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2015/11/25
02:23 UTC

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Fractional Banking Over the Years

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2015/11/20
23:18 UTC

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The Black Plague happened because people turned to evil religion instead of glorious science!

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2015/11/19
14:41 UTC

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"Joseph Stalin is the Satchel Paige of dictators"

It was a nice and hilarious line of bad history by Bill Burr at his standup tonight at MSG. I feel it should be nominated for something of the month.

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2015/11/15
05:43 UTC

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2015/11/13
12:45 UTC

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"Brutality did not exist until Western Imperialism."

http://imgur.com/gallery/ws0BE92/new

Just a tweet, don't have much to say other then the fact that this twisted pseudo-history come from a person that consider itself "very smart", unfortunately so to their followers.

It's a low effort but i tough I would share, if it's ok.

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2015/11/13
03:38 UTC

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