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The Lakhmids, an Arab Kingdom before Islam! (c.300–602 AD)

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2024/04/21
19:19 UTC

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What if the French became more brutal during the Revolution in Algeria, if not outright genocidal? Would the FLN end up losing?

Years ago I saw a martial arts debate which self-defense instructor Marc MacYoung (who has a degree in history) participated. Basically the debate was asking about working manual laborers beating martial artists and used a clip from a fictional TV show of a butcher who was overwhelming a trained soldier who was well-versed in martial arts (in fact he took out a bunch of bandits who held an entire train by hostage in prior episodes). to the point the soldier who was making movements to defend against the blow panicked at some point and the butcher was able to put some nasty cuts on hi arms because he fell down and was unable to continue proper defensive movements because he got overtaken by fear. Though in the end the soldier survived.

The person who asked the question said his relatives come from Algeria as a bonus point and were far more effective their cutting techniques when preparing for food (including cutting chickens heads off and preparing animal meat from the slaughterhouse) and also pointed out about the Algerian Revolution and rebels ambushing police and even a few military police with knives.

MacYoung made a point that being a soldier is different from fighting skills and a sa the debate continued it went off tangentially into military and history. From what I remembered MacYoung was telling the poster that the reality is that insurgencies never win wars and its the conventional army that wins wars and points out many examples like the Viet Cong getting demolished when they confronted a military force and made a mocking statement about multiple guerrillas like the French Resistance, Filipino bushwackers against Imperial Japan in WWII, and the FLN in Algeria not being able to beat the enemy until they get help from a conventional army like the American military battling the Japanese in Manila or the Allied forces commencing D-Day and other operations to force the Germans to retreat from France or alternetely the government decides its not worth spending money to occupy the territory (which he used for the FLN example)?

He adds with a comment asking the other person who sent the question that I remember going something along this lines.

What if the French decided to take Algeria for themselves and settle the country? They decided to start killing Algerians in every territory they send their own people from France into and rebuilt the new place for themselves with French infrastructure? You see for all the talk about all's fair in love and war, there are actual rules of engagements. You don't fight a people you seek to conquer and enslave the same way from stabilizing a country where most people don't really care about foreign occupation and just want to live their lives. In the same way an army's policies are completely different if the government's intention is to take new land for their citizens' benefits. Think the FLN will still be able to win if the French decides to goo hands offhandle Algeria as a new settler colony? While we are at it, people remember the 6 million Jew s who were killed in WWII. WHat people don't remember is the over 10 million Poles, Ukrainians, and other Slavs along with other unwanted peoples in the Eastern Front of World War 2. If the French decided to copy what the Nazis did in Eastern Europe, do you honestly believe Algeria would win? They only could operate the way they did because of French hesitancy to do genocides in the aftermath of WWII and fear of being associated with Nazi Germany's shadow.

THen he writes the other details I posted earlier about French Resistance being saved by the Allies, etc which I didn't write in this quote because I don't exactly remember how he said it. Even the quote above is just my recollection and not the exact thing he wrote but because I remembered it much better I did the best to my memory to rewrite it.

So I'm curious. What if the French became less restraint and decided to go more brutal in Algeria. If they take it to "wipe whole towns and cities level" or possibly even genocide? Would the FLN be unable to win the war? If avoiding outright genocide and preferring to avoid slaughtering whole towns and cities just not being white French and being "desert savages" as a racist French politician from the 19th century called them during the final years of complete conquest of Algeria , say they left it to Soviet style reprisals in the 70s and 80s in Afghanistan.

How would it all turn out in any of these 3 approaches? Would it lead to the complete destruction of the FLN and absolute victory for the French as Marc MacYoung claims? Or would none of this work and Algeria was bound to independence no matter what even if FLN and followers were systematically exterminated without any hesitation akin to Nazis and gassing entire populations they saw at subhumans? Is MacYoung wrong despite being so sure about his takes when he posted these resposnes in the martial arts discussion?

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2024/03/30
19:58 UTC

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The Arabs & the Sea, a very overlooked relationship!

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2024/02/11
20:25 UTC

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Nigeria's Secret Arab Community: The Shuwa Arabs (الجماعة العربية السرية في نيجيريا: عرب الشوا)

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2024/02/05
07:04 UTC

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What do you know about Nabatea, the Greek influenced Arabian kingdom?

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2024/02/04
20:27 UTC

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The Crusades were actually kind of pathetic and have been way overblown

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2023/11/12
19:16 UTC

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Did Mecca Exist (Before Islam in the 7th century)? Find out about this rather controversial history by viewing this video to its end!

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2023/09/24
19:27 UTC

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What do you know about this Ancient Arabian Skyscraper, that stood before the time of Islam in San'aa in Yemen? When it was built and who destroyed remains kind of a mystery.

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2023/08/13
18:32 UTC

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Eritrea's Secret Arab Community: The Rashaida People

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2023/08/03
02:00 UTC

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What do you know about the battle of Karbala, one of the most religiously & culturally important battles in the history of mankind? (video is trying to be religiously neutral)

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2023/07/23
19:32 UTC

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What do you know about history’s most important trade network that southern Arabia was involved in?

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2023/06/18
18:29 UTC

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About the capital of Yemen, San’aa, before Islam and what it implies about the Arabic peninsula just before the rise of Islam.

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2023/06/04
18:26 UTC

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What do you do you know about the sack of the holy city of Mecca by the qarmatians?

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2023/05/28
18:21 UTC

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Do you know about the greatest Black Slave Rebellion in Arabic-Islamicate history? This video deals with the zanj rebellion and the consequences of the this rebellion.

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2023/05/14
19:30 UTC

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A question about arabian tradition

I'm currently writing a novel set in late XVIth century Arabia and I'm doing research, however I couldn't find any sources on a particular topic that intrests me, at least not in any language known to me. The topic is an emir's coronation (or should it even be called coronation?). How does it look? What are the traditional acts, speaches, party rules, convenances, dishes, everything special about that day? I'd be grateful for some answers.

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2023/01/29
00:59 UTC

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The Pirate Imam of The Indian Ocean

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2022/11/17
14:53 UTC

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Dark Side History: Islamic Armies, The Types of Troops & Sources of Recruitment (7-13th century)

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2022/11/13
20:30 UTC

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The Ancient Kingdom of Frankincense

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2022/09/25
13:13 UTC

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As-Sayyida al-Hurra (1485-1561) A female “Islamic” Ruler active in Al-Maghrib!

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2022/07/24
19:14 UTC

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A video about the concept of foundational progenitor empires using the examples of Rome (509 BC–1453AD), the Rashidun-Abbasid (632-1258 AD) caliphates and Chinese Qin-Han(221 BC -220 AD) dynasties and their influence. (بالإنقليزية للأسف )

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2022/07/10
19:45 UTC

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505 قبيلة قحطان في شمال إفريقيا 🇲🇷🇾🇪🇪🇭 مع ترجمة إلى الإنجليزية والعربية 👀🇨🇦🇱🇾

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2021/12/16
22:03 UTC

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Materials Related To Mughal's And Timurid

Where can you find all materials related to Mughal's and Timurids?

Mughal Library

www.mughallibrary.com

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2021/05/19
12:52 UTC

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