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WithoutATrace is a community for discussing missing persons cases - both open and closed. We tend to focus on cold cases, but we do discuss more recent disappearances as well. You are welcome to post about missing people here!

Welcome

Welcome to the subreddit! This is the place for those cases of people who have disappeared and the stories behind it. All discussion, pictures, news stories, and videos regarding missing persons cases are welcome.

Please provide a synopsis for any YouTube channel links, any podcasts, or blogs. We do need more than a screenshot of a poster or clipping!

Note: We do tend to focus on cold cases rather than recent disappearances, but we welcome all cases.

Flair

Cold Case — For those missing cases that police and the public consider cold, after a few years or decades

Missing — For recent cases of people going missing in the last year.

Update — News articles related to a person who has gone missing, whether the police or family are trying to get information or the public's notice about a case or a person has been found either dead or alive

Historical — Cases from centuries ago without a resolution

Please post relevant info to the case in the comments!

Subreddits

/r/MissingPersons

/r/Missing411

/r/UnresolvedMysteries

/r/AndrewGosden

/r/MauraMurray

/r/KyronHorman

/r/AshaDegree

/r/KyronHorman

Websites

Interpol Yellow Notices (International 🌐)

NCMEC (US 🇺🇸)

Charley Project (US 🇺🇸)

NamUs (US 🇺🇸)

Missing People (UK 🇬🇧)

UK Missing Persons Unit (UK 🇬🇧)

Locate International (International 🌐)

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In 1988, Lyndon Fuller vanished after jumping from a third story hospital window—barefoot, in pajamas, into the freezing night. Decades later his fate remains a mystery. What really happened?

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2025/02/02
18:11 UTC

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Robert Gittings, missing from Fort Bragg, California since June 27th, 2020

I knew this man, not as friends, just acquaintances. He went missing the summer I met him while I was visiting Fort Bragg for 2 months. His story has always bothered me, it just didn't seem like they had done much to find him. I've never seen any updates on his case. We talked several times when I went thru his checkout line at Harvest Market, he detailed his struggles with severe back pain, leg pain, and headaches from an injury severe enough he had had several surgeries and a lot of surgical hardware to rebuild him. I can't recall the specifics, only that he said he was in near constant pain. He talked some about his daughter, a toddler at the time, iirc he had sole custody of her- I don't know any specifics of why.

He was a really nice, helpful guy. Seemed very melancholy, but was quick to laugh, we joked a bit back and forth. I was only in town for another week after he went missing, but it seemed like his disappearance had rattled his co workers, there was a palpable sense of concern and confusion about what had happened over the next 2 times I was in the store before leaving town- and I am not a local. But I got the sense that he was well known, well liked, that this was extremely unusual and it was unlikely he would have taken off this way leaving his daughter without a word.

Just a strange case overall from an area that when looking into it, has a very unusual rate of missing people that go missing in the same way, and aren't seen again.

I hope this guy is found someday...he was kind enough that as a random customer and essential stranger; he left an impact on me that 5 years later, I still wonder about him.

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2025/02/01
20:07 UTC

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Information about Robert Bobby Leon Desmond.

This is not a joke. This is what I have heard from some sources in the white house(friends) regarding the disappearance of Robert Bobby Leon Desmond.

Robert was hitchhiking along a street in Kennebunkport, Maine in 1964 when George W Bush(junior) spots him while driving a car (possibly a Ford). He picks him up and takes him to the Walker point. He then sends him to a guest room and tells him to take a shower. Bush then murders Bobby and takes the corpse to a nearby shed(possibly a carpentry workshop). He dismembers the body and puts the body parts in a plastic bag. He then takes the remains to the Walker Point's pier. He then dumps the remains somewhere in the Sandy Cove(possibly very close to the Pier or somewhere further away). The source also said that Bush accidentally dropped his watch into the Sandy Cove where he dumped the remains.

If someone could do a search in the Sandy Cove maybe the remains could be retrieved ?

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2025/01/29
14:01 UTC

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Missing online friend

An online friend who I’m very close with and who lives in Nova Scotia, Canada stopped responding 4 months ago. I’m desperate to just make sure this person is alive/okay. Last I heard, something had happened and they ended up moving (I think to Montreal but I cannot confirm.) Can anyone help me?

5 Comments
2025/01/24
09:38 UTC

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Missing from Oklahoma- Has family in Kansas City Mo

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2025/01/24
04:04 UTC

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My friend is missing. South Wales.

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2025/01/22
23:00 UTC

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Missing Relative; Joined a Cult

Back in 2006 (in Michigan) my aunt Danielle Zalinski eloped with Craig Stasio. She joined a religious group after her dad passed. We didn't see her much. She and her husband opened up a few places to operate (dental offices, chiropractors, massage, a lazer tag arcade, to name some.) They always played Christian music at all of them, and even fired an employee that asked them to change the music. At the massage parlor, named Agape, Craig was accused of exposing himself to a client. Every office (none were all open at once, they changed when people got involved) held sermons during non business hours. Later on, Craig went full on "Doomsday" and called himself a prophet. I'm giving backstory to explain this is a real cult. My aunt left Facebook, and people search leads nowhere. I know she grew up in Warren, MI.

Link I have as follows: https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/let-us-prey-religious-group-defector-says-he-escaped-a-cult

All of the other references are available in the article. I can't find my aunt.

Update: I got a phone number and texted. Also an address she lives. No reply but it's late. And why would she disappear? No. I don't know what it is but it's been ten years. She would not have left her baby niece. She had a turtle named Mr Hat. She was my cool aunt that was in college. She babysitted me.

13 Comments
2025/01/21
20:08 UTC

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KAUA’I: MYSTERIES OF DANGER ISLAND

Experience the strange, supernatural, and heartbreaking stories of those who have vanished on Kaua’i. JUST OUT on Amazon. https://a.co/d/eff5Swr

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2025/01/19
19:24 UTC

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Missing in town w/ population of 331 individuals

Throwaway account. This young man is from a town my parents have a river house in. They now live there full time, and love it. Crazy part is the town has a population of 331 people, and everybody truly “knows” everyone. His poor mother has never stopped searching for him but no one has any information about his disappearance. There’s always small town talk that a local or multiple locals know what happened to him, but the case is now 2 years old and no one has seen him since.

11 Comments
2025/01/16
15:58 UTC

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Missing in the UP of Michigan. It is below freezing temps all month here.

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2025/01/16
14:43 UTC

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Jimmy Dale Whitfield - Missing from Seneca, SC since 1987

14 Comments
2025/01/14
01:58 UTC

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Kataleya Mia Chicllo Alavrez was five years old when she was abducted from the Astor hotel in Florence on June 10, 2023, reportedly seen crying while dragged by an unknown man.

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I'm very sorry if this is poorly put together. Please remember this case and repost whenever you can, or look for updates. I really hope Kataleya will be found safe and sound soon and reunited with her family.

Sources:

https://www.notizie.it/en/kata-trovata-quattro-tracce-dna-peluche-bambina-scomparsa/#google_vignette

https://www.foxnews.com/world/police-frantically-search-young-girl-kidnapped-italy-hotel-suitcase-report

https://www.unionesarda.it/en/italy/kata-the-missing-girl-in-florence-her-uncle-arrested-her-parents-searched-x6qwyppa

https://www.ilmessaggero.it/italia/bimba_scomparsa_firenze_mamma_kata_rapita_litigio_cosa_e_successo_cosa_sappiamo-7456752.html?refresh_ce

2023

Kataleya Mia Chicllo Alvarez (also known as Kata) was five years old when she disappeared from the Astor Hotel in Florence on June 10, 2023. She was reportedly seen crying while being dragged by an unknown man - according to a three year old girl who lived in the same hotel as Kataleya. Kata, left in custody of her uncle Dominique by her mother (who had gone to work at Carrefour), was playing with other girls that afternoon before the abduction in the courtyard. "In a moment of distraction, the little girl arguing with her friends and, suddenly, Kata disappears." The camera on a street lamp frames the entrance to the building from via Maragliano on via Baccherini, and it recorded her as she left the courtyard towards the street and then re-entered. The building, however, has two other side entrances, one at 101 via Maragliano, and the other entrance (whose only obstacle is a low wall), leads directly to the courtyards of an Inpdap building, this one also with occupied cellars. A resident described it as "Another scary place."

Italian authorities believe she was kidnapped "from a former hotel housing some 140 illegal immigrants" according to global reports. The little girl Kataleya was reportedly stuffed into a suitcase and taken from the Astor Hotel. She and her family lived there illegally with about 140 other migrants according to Italian news outlet La Repubblica. Another article reporting on this case stated "the abandoned building, which has become a refuge for a hundred occupants, half of whom are children, has been thoroughly searched, inspected three times, including with the help of sniffer dogs. The firefighters have inspected the cavities, basements, water tanks, both functioning and abandoned. But there is no sign of little 'Kata', as everyone here calls her."

Katherine (or Kathrina) Alvarez, Kataleya's mother said she "had an argument in the last few days with other occupants" and her best friend Isabel added, "Kathrina wanted to leave, to take her daughter and little brother away from here."

Katherine was hospitalized after drinking bleach in desperation following Kata's disappearance (reported by La Repubblica). According to the outlet, she said (2023), "I made a mistake. I'll be fine, forgive me if for a moment I thought about giving up and losing hope. But now I'm stronger, and I won't rest until I find her."

Back from the hospital and supported by a psychologist from the Municipality, Katherine said (2023), "Please, help me find my little girl. The more time passes, the more I fear that someone has taken her away from me, I don't know what to think."

Kataleya's father, Miguel Angel Romero, reportedly said (2023) he had issues with the former Astor hotel and he speculated that Kataleya's kidnapping could be an "extortion attempt". Following Kataleya's disappearance, the 140 migrants were apparently evicted from the Astor hotel.

According to La Repubblica, Miguel said (2023), "I think it's a kidnapping. Maybe for extortion, I don't know. I don't have to judge. God will judge, but my little girl has nothing to do with it. I don't want any more problems with anyone. I love my family."

Four Peruvian people ended up in prison for the rent racket in the structure of the hotel, and among these people is the maternal uncle of Kataleya, who was the last to have seen the child before she disappeared (according to what was "rebuilt" in 2023).

The arrests made concern charges of extortion, attempted extortion and robbery, threats, and also attempted murder and serious injuries between November 2022 and May 2023, against other occupants of the building.

According to the investigators of the case, the four asked for a "bribe" of 600 to 700 euros from other occupants of the Astor hotel. An episode was reconstructed by the pre-trial detention order of May 28 (2022), when the four now arrested men threatened and beat a Peruvian compatriot couple with a baseball bat who was occupying the room, and also refusing to pay the "rent". They also then committed violence against others who were in the next room. Here, a man threw himself out the window out of fear of being killed and was seriously injured.

The carabinieri carried out a dozen searches of other Peruvians, and this included the parents of little Kataleya.

The arrests made fall within the same line of investigation of Kataleya, who was presumed to be kidnapped on the tenth of June.

2025

In the 19 months since the abduction, the investigations never stopped, and these investigations are defined by the Prosecutor's Office as "highly complex". The investigators on the case have followed several leads and there is now news that the genetic analysis has found four tracks of DNA on the Kata's stuffed toy of Peruvian origins (This information is from an article published three days ago - today is January 13 2025 for future reference).

Katherine Alvarez said (2025), "The people who took my daughter, put their hands on their conscience, I pray every day for a miracle to happen, for God to touch the hearts of these people. They are investigating the DNA of a stuffed toy, they found traces, they are not from our family and they are comparing it with the DNA of other people who were at the Astor."

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2025/01/13
13:15 UTC

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