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If you need more Clark Gregg in your life, he’s in a new movie out this weekend called Thelma and it's very good

4 Comments
2024/06/24
22:56 UTC

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Agent Lumley and Avery were Ex -Hydra?

If you don't recognize the man he is the agent that was in hiding from Cal after finding Skye after the massacre of the village.

I was thinking about him and his partner Linda Avery They were part of the team sent to investigate why the first team that we know was hydra (based on what Ward said) didn't communicate. If Hydra wanted to keep what they were doing redacted they would not send actual shield agents as backup.

Cal says in 2x20 that he didn't kill any shield agents just people who had it coming.

I am assuming he means hydra agents that were acting like villagers and shield agents.

But what about Avery and Lumley.

Lumley talks about how both him and Avery were partners fresh out of the academy so if they were hydra then they were not for long.

When Coulson found Lumley in 1x12 he was about to take cyanide which is a Hydra move.

I think Lumley and Avery were both Hydra but on this mission when they realized hydra was getting killed for trying to get that baby they decided to leave Hydra . They protected Skye but then I think Avery was killed by Hydra not Cal for betraying them.

Lumley is hiding from Cal and Hydra.

10 Comments
2024/06/24
18:05 UTC

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Fitz time travel dilemma

So fitz froze himself and met the team (who warped themselves)in the future after 74 years. Now that same fits came back with them to the present and sacrificed himself.
So Jemma and team now go to find fitz who is frozen somewhere in space?

how does this make sense? isn't the fitz of their timeline already gone?

34 Comments
2024/06/24
08:08 UTC

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Roz Price, ATCU

3rd watch-through here: It seems every major female character in SHIELD is really quite attractive in their own ways. Yet I am always stunned when we are introduced to the classy, powerful Rosalind Price and saddened when she so quickly meets her untimely demise at the hands of Ward: They were really setting up her relationship with Coulson as a strong one, and POOF. Anyone else think the story arc could have been bolstered by this Spy vs Spy romance?

3 Comments
2024/06/24
06:46 UTC

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Why do so many people hate Fitz’s solution to closing the fear dimension?

I see a lot of people on this sub hating Fitz removing Daisy’s inhuman control device. I don’t understand the hate. What was the alternative? What was the better way to handle the situation?

There might be a better solution, but I’m not sure what it would be. Any help here would be appreciated.

This is my understanding of what happened:

  1. Compressed Gravitonium was needed to close the fear dimension.
  2. The existing solution was too weak to contain the rift. Adding additional compressed gravitonium would be sufficient.
  3. If the fear dimension remained open, it would have impacted Rivers End and potentially more, getting increasingly dangerous. It was crucial that the rift be closed.
  4. They had Gravitonium that was uncompressed.
  5. They were unsuccessful at finding a way to compress the Gravitonium without Daisy’s powers.
  6. Daisy’s powers were disabled with an inhibitor.
  7. Daisy said she was unwilling to have the inhibitor removed under any circumstance.
  8. Later, Daisy confirmed that had they asked her, she would not have let them remove the inhibitor, preferring the rift remain open.

These are the alternatives I see:

  1. Do nothing about the fear dimension and hope for the best
  2. Give Daisy’s powers to someone else, like Whitehall and Malick did with transferring powers
  3. Give terrigen to a bunch of people and hope for another Daisy
  4. Get a bunch of scientists to assess the problem and hope someone sees something Fitz doesn’t see

The first option seems bad. The second is probably something Daisy would be equally against. The other options are time consuming and still might not work.

It still seems like the best option is to remove the inhibitor and hope that, when the time comes to destroy the world, Daisy can show more restraint than last time - of course in retrospect this doesn’t matter.

If Daisy does not have her powers, she cannot destroy the world, which, from their understanding, would successfully change the future. Isn’t Daisy’s objection that they do not know if there is another solution? Why is it reasonable to assume that they will not find a better solution to saving the world, so they should just leave the fear dimension open and live with it? Why assume Daisy’s solution is the only one? I mean, we know it isn’t right? They could restore her powers, close the rift, then kill her. That should work too as a last resort.

What am I missing?

edit: Thank you for all of your feedback. There's some I agree with and some I don't, but I understand the position better and have some new perspectives to consider.

edit2: I was not intending to start an argument, but more understand different perspectives. I definitely found myself arguing more than I would like. I'm sorry to all of you for that.

116 Comments
2024/06/24
00:59 UTC

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I'm still amazed at how excellent Agents of SHIELD is compared to some recent Disney+/Marvel shows that have ten times its budget.

15 Comments
2024/06/24
00:07 UTC

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What’s the 17 on this signify?

This is from the season five finale. It’s >!the last thing left in Fitz’ room after Jemma has packed everything else up!<. I’m assuming it has some significance but I can’t place it.

10 Comments
2024/06/23
18:25 UTC

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Where is vjay nadeer

Im in s4 and the buildup and hype for the story of vjay nadeer is incredible just for him to die so soon. Whats the purpose of the scene where he went back to terrigenesis if he will not appear later? Its so exciting to see his powers and how shield would utilize it but a huge disappointment to kill him off.

11 Comments
2024/06/23
10:57 UTC

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Just watched “The End” for the second time

What did the 17 on the >!thing Fitz left for Simmons!< signify? I know I should remember but I don’t. Also, I didn’t bawl this time so yay me? But this time through I know the story goes on, as opposed to when it originally aired

5 Comments
2024/06/23
07:32 UTC

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How come the show killed off Triplett and Ward?

They were great characters. I particularly wanted Ward to live through the Framework so he could see first hand that there was good in him.

25 Comments
2024/06/22
16:50 UTC

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Did anyone else HATE the fact that Coulson was brought back as an LMD???

It just felt wrong to me. He had the same personality as Coulson and all his memories. But still it technically WASNT HIM at all but a knock off copy of him.

I know they all loved Coulson very much and his death was really hard on the team but I just find it a bit disrespectful to resurrect him in this way. He wanted to finally allow for nature to take its course and actually die. But instead they were selfish and went against his wishes by bringing him back as an LMD.

Then again it wasn’t him but an LMD but still sort of the essence of Coulson still if that makes sense. I don’t know I just think it’s disrespectful to replace someone you loved with a clone robot version. The entire time I just kept going “this isn’t even actually Coulson it’s actually an LMD”😭I LOVE this show and having Coulson back made the last season a lot of fun but man I have such mixed feelings about it. Part of keeping was happy that he was back but the other part kept thinking that the REAL Coulson is actually dead.

Also I get the same for Fitz since the real him died and he gets replaced by an alternate timeline version or whatever that was😭I think marvel has a problem of not being able to kill characters off and always bringing them back. But all it does is make death absolutely meaningless. Again still love the show but this was one of those things that always bothered me.

133 Comments
2024/06/22
11:54 UTC

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Do you have an episode you find difficult to re-watch?

Because it hits you right in your feels not because you don't like it.

For me it's when Bobby and Hunter got caught and were forced out of Shield.

Breaks my heart, that last scene, ugh

69 Comments
2024/06/21
19:47 UTC

111

I can't stop making Fitz' sandwich

I tweaked it a little but a soft bun lightly toasted, provolone cheese, proscuitto, and a hint of pesto aoili. I throw on some mixed greens because I definitely saw something leafy on his sandwich.

Love this show, currently on my 7th or so rewatch. But damn if this sandwich isn't one of the best things that came out of it

12 Comments
2024/06/20
23:16 UTC

11

top 10 fav characters

tell me your top 10 favorite characters and I'll tell you what I think about it :)

27 Comments
2024/06/20
18:58 UTC

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may and yo-yo

I absolutely LOVE how they explored May and Yo-Yo's friendship in season 7 and I don't see many people commenting on this, anyone else love them?

3 Comments
2024/06/20
06:16 UTC

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What could be the magnitude of earthquake caused by Destroyer of Worlds on Richter scale ?

Earth quake caused by Talbot literally blew the earth into pieces. What could the magnitude be??

11 Comments
2024/06/20
05:58 UTC

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Why do the characters of this show assume every single powered person is an Inhuman?

Basically the question posed in the title. In the beginning, they were calling powered characters "enhanced" people. But it seems like once they discovered Inhumans, they just assume every single person that's powered is Inhuman. That's part of why I loved when Ghost Rider appeared so they could acknowledge other types of powered people exist. Like they don't think the Hulk is an Inhuman. Dr. Strange exists, Wanda and Pietro, Spider-Man and a bunch of characters debuted in movies they directly reference, and none of them are Inhuman. It makes me wish the X-Men (or more importantly, Mutants) existed in the MCU at the time so they could just acknowledge that there's more than one type of powered person out there. Did anyone else find this kind of annoying? Pretty much my only gripe with the show.

Fyi I just finished season 4 for the first time and still have to watch the last three so try not to go toooo hard with the spoilers lol. But maybe more types reveal themselves in later seasons that I'm yet to see.

33 Comments
2024/06/20
00:38 UTC

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Question: Vijay/Deathlock/LMD's: Can They pop up later in MCU?!

So... we know that when Nadeer was shot in the gut and seemingly killed by his own sister, his body was then dumped into the sea where it then underwent Terrigenesis once again. Obviously they put that their for a reason, possibly a good way to start an 8th season wich I realized is not happening, therefore I believe that Vijay may appear later as a character in a different MCU show/movie, idk, possibly even an avenger with his power as an inhuman. This also got me thinking, DEATHLOCK! Can Mike Peterson become an avenger, I mean he is almost like a Iron Man suit (nr tho) and then my final thought was LMD's if needed ywhoever becomes the big bad brains of the avengers now that tony is done can build an army of LMD's to fight lets say Kang. I know this all sounds crazy. I was just wonering someone who understands the MCU much more than me to give their knoledge of the possibilities and opinion especially on Deathlock, i mean like lowkey, he can be a Head of the line Avenger right next to Thor, Bucky, etc. i just feel like maybe Avengers wont be as boring as i suspect it to be, idrk. But if anyone knows if lets say Nadeer DID pop up in a show that i didnt watch.....

30 Comments
2024/06/19
20:48 UTC

31

The Blip

I’m pretty sure I have my timeline right… In S6 Mack says to Daisy about it being 5 years that she was gone in space (between seasons 5 and 6). Is this the only reference to the 5 year blip post-end game?

66 Comments
2024/06/19
05:52 UTC

143

Really wish they killed off Mack instead of Agent Trip

Mack is a good guy and all but can be very annoying and judgemental. There really wasn’t a scene where I didn’t love Agent Triplett.

Edit: Idk why people are trying to make my opinion about race when that wasn’t a factor at all. Especially considering I am a black man myself. I’m sure everyone has had a moment when a favorite character died and you were like “well if you were going to kill anybody off it should’ve been …”. It just so happens that the characters I mentioned are both AA.

72 Comments
2024/06/18
18:49 UTC

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Did Fury know about the Monolith, Hive/Alveus, and Hydra’s true origin?

Bobbi mentions she thinks Fury knew when discussing what to do with the Portal. It’s never discussed again.

What’s peoples thoughts? It wasn’t in the Black Box or Coulson would have known, while shit like the Darkhold was. So it seems unlikely.

7 Comments
2024/06/18
18:34 UTC

16

How did Whitehall lose his accent?

Was he faking it or did he spend so much time in America that it just faded away?

6 Comments
2024/06/18
03:26 UTC

20

Best Agent May Episodes?

I am about to begin yet ANOTHER Re-watch, and want to skip through the best Melinda May episodes.

*Obviously the Bahrain episode.

20 Comments
2024/06/17
22:49 UTC

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The ONE thing I dislike about AoS.

First of all, not hating on the series, I absolutely love it.

But this one thing just bugs me to no end: how casually/callously they treat all of the extra agents.

And I know I'm not the only one who feels this way, nor am I the first to bring it up here on this sub. But as I'm going through a rewatch rn, I just felt like talking about it. Especially because since the last time I watched the series, I watched another show for the first time that treats their extras with respect and dignity.

But first, while I'm sure most of you know what I'm talking about, let me explain anyway. Throughout the show, all of the extra agents we see around the bases and on missions are treated as nobodies. They're more a part of the environment than they are characters. Hardly any of them are even given names, and they're so often killed off just to show off the power of the new bad guy (think those four agents in the tunnel confronting Eli Morrow) and often when this happens, the main characters show little, if any pain or sorrow. It's like that's what these guys are there for, to take bullets so that our main cast doesn't have to.

And this isn't a problem unique to Agents of Shield, lots of shows do this. And I do understand why, the writers want to give all of the focus and attention to the main characters. And from a production standpoint, giving more attention to the extras will eventually turn them into side characters, and then you have to pay those actors more.

So it's not really a bad thing when a show does this, per se. But when a show actually takes the time to treat it's extras like real people, it elevates the series, imo. And that's what Stargate does.

I showed up late to the party with Stargate, only getting into it about 2-3 years ago. But it quickly surpassed Agents of Shield as my favorite series, for a few different reasons, but one of those being how the extra SGC personnel are treated.

Now yes, you do still have plenty of unnamed soldiers who are little more than window dressing. But even these guys are treated with more dignity than most shows treat their extras with. They aren't just there in the background, to make the set a little more lively. The main characters acknowledge them and interact with them on a regular basis.

And then you have the side characters. Now, AoS is not completely void of side characters there are a few. But most of them are people of some importance, government officials like Talbot, or people with super powers like Jeoy and Yo-Yo (before she joined the main cast in S4) Regular agents who become side characters, like Piper or Davis, are rare.

But Stargate, on the other hand, has tons of characters who started out as little more than a named extra with one or two speaking lines. But then instead of disappearing, never to be seen again, they show up again in a future episode. And then again, and again. Before long they become a real character, someone who's face and name you know and remember, someone who you're happy to see again, and who you worry about when they're in danger.

And in having so many characters that started as random extras, and then evolved into recurring characters, Stargate elevates all of those other guys who stay as random extras, because you know that they could just as easily become a mainstay of the series as anyone else.

Before I wrap up, another show that does this super well, perhaps even better than Staragte, is Star Wars: The Clone Wars. Because the writers of that show took the Clone Troopers, who were literally MADE, both in-universe and out, to be faceless, disposable soldiers, identical carbon copies of each other who would fight and die for the Republic, and turned them into distinct individuals with names, personalities, skills, and even looks that differed from each other.

So anyway, there's my rant. Just wanted to say that AoS could have done better, and wanted to promote a show that does do better.

52 Comments
2024/06/17
21:53 UTC

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Meet the Koenigs

The koenigs are great side characters.

3 Comments
2024/06/17
21:37 UTC

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Does anyone know where I can find scenepacks for edits?

I really need some philinda scenepacks (among other ones) and I can't find any 😭

4 Comments
2024/06/17
02:51 UTC

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favorite episodes

I'm curious, what are your favorite episodes of each season?

22 Comments
2024/06/16
19:19 UTC

11

Help finding a scene

I am looking for a scene where Skye/Daisy says something along the lines of “and the attackers are invisible” I think it is in season 1 but I’m not sure

3 Comments
2024/06/16
14:59 UTC

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Do you think Jemma would’ve been just as scary as Fitz if she became the one with the evil side instead?

I think we could all agree she would be force to be reckoned with because she’s just as smart as Fitz just in different areas but do you think she would’ve been as creepy/scary as evil Fitz was?

45 Comments
2024/06/16
13:52 UTC

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