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100 Objects seemingly references AOS?

I just got my hands on the Marvel Studios: 100 Objects reference book and something caught my eye. The Sokovia Accords page seemingly references AOS. At least I can’t see how else it is supposed to make sense. I may be little late to the party because the book came out a month ago so correct me if I’m wrong.

The book states multiple times that the Accords are used by SHIELD. Not only is SHIELD disbanded prior to Civil War in the movies - it is dismantled prior to Age of Ultron. The events of Age of Ultron is how the Sokovia Accords got their name in the first place.

So it seems either the author got his information from the MCU wiki and this is an oversight, or, it’s actually a small nod that SHIELD is still around.

Am I missing something here?

Edit: if it’s unclear I am a fan of the show and know what happens in it. I’m aware there is reference to the Sokovia Accords in the show. I’m just surprised to find reference to it in the Marvel Studios published reference book.

1 Comment
2024/11/20
08:42 UTC

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How did aida go against her programming?

while in the framework, aida somehow went against her programming and started project looking glass.

she knew that if she became a real person, she would destroy the framework, but she still created that body for herself and became human, even tho her primary objective was to protect the framework. she also killed radcliffe in the process, violating another one of her main objectives.

could it have been the darkhold? did the darkhold "want" to create more of "itself", to spread perhaps, and it knew that aida was capable of accomplishing that?

also, in the fight with anton ivanov(s), why didn't coulson just use his arm's shield to destroy all the LMDs just like he did with the first one

11 Comments
2024/11/20
01:53 UTC

14

Aside from Daisy do we know the canonical ages of the other characters?

10 Comments
2024/11/20
01:43 UTC

0

I don't think she should've ended up with Fitz.

19 Comments
2024/11/17
19:25 UTC

121

Comics based on AoS

Found these today for $2 each in a comic book shop!! Didn’t know they had AoS inspired SHIELD comic books, featuring AoS characters like Coulson, Fitz and Simmons. i can’t wait to search for the other books in this series

4 Comments
2024/11/16
15:39 UTC

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Daisy-centric fic recommendations

I do have three requirements:

  1. No non-canon ships. (This also means no SkyeWard) And while we’re on that…

  2. No Ward redemption.

  3. Must be canon-compliant or point of divergence. Originally wasn’t into point of divergence but I liked “The One Left Behind.”

10 Comments
2024/11/16
09:24 UTC

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Coulson in the comics

Spiderman comic but Coulson shows up! He never gets a break, huh?

3 Comments
2024/11/15
16:58 UTC

3

Hive appearance

Does anyone else see Hive when they look at Jay-Z's current hairstyle?

1 Comment
2024/11/14
21:15 UTC

70

Things that Daisy should be able to do

What is something Daisy Johnson should have been able to do with her powers as a vibration manipulater, but was never shown? And above all, what feats would you have liked to see her perform?

DONT BE SHY TO BE CREATIVE WITH YOUR ANSWERS.

Put some thought into it.

90 Comments
2024/11/14
15:25 UTC

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How would you split the show into arcs?

  • S1: Episode 1-10 (Building the team)
  • S1: Episode 11-15
  • S1: Episode 16-22 (Uprising)
  • S2: Episode 1-10
  • S2: Episode 11-15 (The "Real" SHIELD)
  • S2: Episode 16-22 (Inhumans and Afterlife)
  • S3: Episode 1-10 (Secret Warriors, Hydra, and Maveth)
  • S3: Episode 11-22 (Hive)
  • S4: Episode 1-8 (Ghost Rider)
  • S4: Episode 9-15 (LMD's)
  • S4: Episode 16-22 (Agents of Hydra)
  • S5: Episode 1-10 (Cracked Earth)
  • S5: Episode 11-14 (Fear Dimension)
  • S5: Episode 15-22 (Destroyer of Worlds)
  • S6: Episode 1-13 (not sure how to split this seeing as I haven't seen it since it first aired)
  • S7: Episode 1-13 (see: S6)
11 Comments
2024/11/13
18:04 UTC

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How confident are you on Quake being in Avengers Secret Wars?

Fan favorite characters keep coming back in the MCU. Daredevil, Deadpool, Wolverine, Spider-Men. Even for smaller roles, X-23, Blade...

Do you think Quake will be in Secret Wars? Do you think Feige will give us the pleasure of seeing Chloe Bennet reprising her role as Quake, for the first time on the big screen, meeting other heroes?

46 Comments
2024/11/13
11:34 UTC

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Jaiying

So is the show Jaiying kills Gonzalez which helps to turn Daisy more towards Afterlife and the inhumans, but I have been thinking about what if it had been Coulson instead. It got me thinking of an alternate way the show could have gone which would involve Gonzalez taking over as director of S.H.I.E.L.D. and turning Daisy into their ultimate weapon because while I think Daisy wanted to get to know her birth parents she didn’t really love them. Love takes time to develop and honestly Coulson was a father figure to her which makes him a threat to Jaiying since he already had her loyalty. So I was thinking what if she killed Coulson instead of Gonzalez and that’s my theory. She would have turned on Jaiying and Gonzalez would have taken advantage of it turning her into S.H.I.E.L.D.’s personal Avenger or even assassin on par with Romanoff only with the added bonus of her superpowers.

13 Comments
2024/11/13
04:37 UTC

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[Article] Phil Coulson is the heart of the MCU (and it's time it starts beating again)

The MCU's most popular hero Iron Man returning as its next big bad Doctor Doom is a gutpunch - both in the casting announcement, and invariably when the marketing begins and into the movie itself. While Robert Downey Jr.'s Tony Stark is framed by some to be the beating heart inside the larger MCU, I'd argue that's not true.

Clark Gregg's Phil Coulson is the heart of the MCU.

And much like RDJ, his MCU character is dead - and much like RDJ he was revived in a shocking twist (oh, those later seasons of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.), but with Downey's Doctor Doom returning in a big way as the centerpiece of the next two Avengers movies - it also opens the door to Coulson returning as well.

In this edition of Popverse's weekly series Marvel Matters, we delve into the reasons behind Coulson's exit from the MCU, what stands in the way of the character's return, and how he could be the logical pairing for Robert Downey Jr's Doctor Doom.

Read on: Phil Coulson is the heart of the MCU (and it's time it starts beating again) | Popverse

9 Comments
2024/11/11
17:33 UTC

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This is probably the best acted scene in the show, and also the most emotional

28 Comments
2024/11/11
13:57 UTC

767

Two very bad books. Very poorly written.

64 Comments
2024/11/10
00:42 UTC

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Unpopular opinion: I don't ship either Philinda or Johnward (is that the name? lol)

Both the people in both the relationships give more brother-sister energy. But don't really see the romantic chemistry. I definitely see Daisy being better with Lincoln. As for Phil and Melinda, I'm sorry, I don't see anyone with either of them lolol. I guess except for that woman with Coulson who >!got shot and killed by Ward. !<

50 Comments
2024/11/07
16:09 UTC

38

If you were Grant Ward what would you do?

Pretend you were Grant Ward, what would you do if Christian told you to push your younger brother into the well? What would you do if Garrett told you that he’d break you out of prison? What would you do if you were in Ward’s shoes? What would your life decisions and choices be?

43 Comments
2024/11/06
17:41 UTC

37

Ranking SHIELD season villains

  • The Clairvoyant
  • Grant Ward
  • Daniel Whitehall
  • Kasius
  • Gideon Malick
  • Cal
  • Aida
  • General Hale
  • Jiayang
  • Hive
  • The Watchdogs
  • Sarge & the crew
  • Senator Nadeer
  • Wilfred Malick
  • The Confederacy
  • Chronicoms
  • Lash
  • Izel
  • Momentum Labs Ghosts
  • Nathaniel Malick
  • Gravitron
  • The Superior/Anton Ivanov
  • Ruby Hale
28 Comments
2024/11/05
15:31 UTC

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Challenge: Change the title of “Fear and Loathing on the Planet of Kitson”…

…to reference the main event of the episode. (The only words you can change are “Fear,” “Loathing,” “Planet,” and “Kitson;” you can also change the word “on” to “in”)

Examples:

“Laughing and Tripping on the Planet of Kitson”

“Daisy and Jemma on the High of Puffies”

6 Comments
2024/11/05
10:52 UTC

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One of the most underrated jokes S1E21

When Coulson and May are at Cybertek and as Fitz is feeding Coulson what to say, Coulson starts to say, “break” in a Scottish accent. Idk why, but that joke made me laugh so damn hard

19 Comments
2024/11/05
08:50 UTC

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What is something you really wanted to see Daisy do with her powers?

Due to budget reasons they nerfed her powers down,as someone who manipulates vibrations her powers should be the most versatile of powers out there.

But let's say the budget was unlimited, what's something you'd want to see her do with her powers?

60 Comments
2024/11/05
08:14 UTC

0

Lincoln

I’m high hey annoyed that they made him so I love you to Daisy for the first time right before his ☠️ and she didn’t get to say it back😭 that’s the very least she could do, besides cry.

7 Comments
2024/11/05
00:50 UTC

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Hive escaping

It really infuriates me that they imprisoned him, knew the others would be coming for him and put him in the only place that hadn’t been secured where there’s a massive door open for anyone to get through…. These mistakes just seem insanely d u m b when they should know way better than to put him in the only place they could get to…. It’s so infuriating!

4 Comments
2024/11/05
00:04 UTC

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Daisy and Jon Jon walk into a restaurant

So awesome to see Chloe again!

7 Comments
2024/11/04
23:06 UTC

10

Hive strength

Does Hive have to absorb people to not wither away? Because I thought his goal was to wipe out humans but that won’t work if he needs them to survive without being weak, or does the connection with inhumans give him strength and replace humans?

17 Comments
2024/11/04
21:43 UTC

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MCU Timeline Order, Per The MCU Wiki (Including Agatha All Along!)

0 Comments
2024/11/04
21:40 UTC

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The things Hive made

I’m watching for the 2nd time and Hive just kidnapped Dr. Radcliffe and proposed the idea of making inhumans and I forgot about those things so I just started cracking up… when Hellfire, Scorch, Burning Man saw them and was like “even the women?” About how they looked, I died of laughter and now I’m just cracking up at the thought and how Hive didn’t want to fix them despite them having no power and not being near Radcliffe’s dream creation, or even you’d think Hive’s, you’d think he’d want an army with powers and common sense… I guess since he was hideous he wanted to make everyone else😭

6 Comments
2024/11/04
21:32 UTC

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Is it safe to assume the Darkhold in the series, and the one in other projects arent the same?

This was brought up before, after Doctor Strange 2 came out. We learnt that the Darkhold was simply a copy of runes from Mount Wungadore.

What we learnt in the Agatha premiere was that Agatha actually had a few copies of the Darkhold, all of which were destroyed after MoM. I think given the conflicting histories and different appearances, its far more likely that the one in the series was just another version.

Sidenote: If this is the case, Im happy that it doesn't conflict with what the show established. Also, the show did Wanda's arc with the Darkhold in MoM, first.

35 Comments
2024/11/04
18:50 UTC

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Hive/ Eating

Does anyone understand why Hive took so long eating people food when all it seemed like he had to do was get those 5 people and be recharged by ☠️ them…. Why did he wait so long and let himself be weak and helpless? I don’t get why that wasn’t the first thing he did and also… they said he couldn’t stand yet he walked out in front of Malick’s car when they were fleeing the portal🤔 it’s ridiculous because he supposedly couldn’t walk but if he wouldn’t have made it to Malick’s car, he would’ve been discovered and contained…. There’s no way someone wouldn’t report a dude looking like that

11 Comments
2024/11/03
10:37 UTC

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Am I the only one that thinks the cast was way too bloated during S2-3?

I'm aware that this may be an unpopular opinion, and feel free to send downvotes my way, but I just wanted to share my thoughts.

I'm currently on my 2nd full rewatch of AoS (and like 4th rewatch for S1). Unfortunately, S2-3 don't seem to connect with me like they do with apparently the rest of the fanbase. I'm not a huge fan of Daisy's parents, Inhumans, Afterlife, the "real SHIELD," or Hive, and HYDRA got to the point where it was way overplayed by the end of S3. Regardless, it's not like these seasons are terrible. They keep me relatively emotionally invested, the action's cool, and I adore the characters (for the most part).

However, each time I've tried, I get the same feeling during these seasons. I immediately feel like something is "off," and it's honestly pretty obvious. I fell in love with the cast of S1, but then, for some reason, they found it necessary to add in a TON of new characters that I'm expected to care about. S1 already had a big cast, with 6 main characters, but S2 adds Trip, Mack, Hunter, and Bobbi. That's 10 characters! Then, Trip dies, which is probably a good idea, but they immediately throw in Lincoln to replace him. On top of that, they got the whole "real SHIELD" shit going on which includes Gonzalez. It all just feels like way too much. I watch AoS because I want to spend time with the core cast. All of these newbies actively take away screentime, and we're simply expected to care because they're SHIELD agents...

Then, in S3, we get another big dump of characters to suck up more screentime, like Joey, Yo-Yo, Lash, and Rosalind, which is frustrating, but then 3B rolls around, and they finally begin to course correct. By the end of S3 we lose almost all of these characters, which leaves more room for the characters we actually care about!

I think the reason why everyone (including me) loves S4 so much is because it's finally fucking focused! We get a slimmed down core cast of characters that stays consistent for the rest of the show. Coulson, Daisy, Fitz, Simmons, May, and Mack (and Yo-yo), make up a perfectly balanced core cast.

Whether people like Hunter & Bobbi or not, I genuinely get the feeling that I'm not the only one that felt like the cast was way too bloated, which is directly attributable to S4 being considered the best season of the show.

34 Comments
2024/11/02
17:39 UTC

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