/r/noip

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A subreddit that stands against intellectual property laws (copyright law, patent law, trademark law, etc).

No intellectual property laws

This subreddit is for those who believe copyrights, patents, trademarks, and other legal privileges in patterns are against their interests and against the interests of most people. Copying is not theft; it is competition, it is culture. FAQ


On the economics of IP


On creativity without IP


Other links

AgainstMonopoly.org, QuestionCopyright.org


Rules

  • /r/noip is a no-piracy zone. Only legal information and links allowed.

  • We don't support intellectual property, but we do support private property and the market.

  • Reddiquette


Related subreddits

/r/austrian_economics, /r/freeculture, /r/opensource, /r/kickstarter, /r/patreon

/r/noip

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An Artist AGAINST Intellectual Property (Video essay)

0 Comments
2024/07/26
16:00 UTC

1

Question from a creative

I don't know much about the opinions here, I more so stumbled upon this while researching some software laws. I'm wondering what the incentive is for me to make anything if no one has to pay me for it? I'm wasting my time writing code, should be building houses since those are worth something. But, well, without people writing code no one would be here on reddit. And we wouldn't have MRIs or CAT scans etc. I don't think people can own ideas, personally, but I think whoever came up with it first should be protected to some extent to incentive sharing it instead of trying to keep it secret. And what about art and creativity? You think it doesn't exist? If I write a piece of music, or draw a map of a fantasy world I'm writing a book about, did I not make it? It didn't exist before. Sure you could say it existed in some abstract sense as it fits within the set of all possible things that could exist, but it was not phsyically in the universe. Anyone Could have come up with it, but they didn't. Just because it's possible doesn't make it inevitable. I'm genuinely curious and want to hear your opinions here, maybe it can help me understand and continue creating in a world without IP.

8 Comments
2024/07/08
20:27 UTC

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The absurdity of copyright

9 Comments
2023/02/02
21:35 UTC

39

Broken clock

0 Comments
2023/02/02
01:18 UTC

15

The Libertarian case against Intellectual Property

0 Comments
2022/12/05
23:39 UTC

24

Why Artists Shouldn't Own Their Art

0 Comments
2022/12/04
15:39 UTC

3

'The Creativity Delusion: Brains, Geniuses and Originality'. A 3-chapter documentary about the stories we tell ourselves around creativity

0 Comments
2022/12/04
14:16 UTC

4

Wrote a poem on the topic!

WHAT PEOPLE CANNOT TRULY OWN

Once, in the ancient times of old,

A Man came forth, with bow and sword,

And with his bow and sword, he sent

All forest-dwellers to be bent.

The Man did not for moment dwell

On if a knell was a death-knell

But when his hunt was done, he hung

A sign which spoke, without a lung:

"I own this leaf, I own this bee,

I own this apple, and its tree,

I own the soil on which it stands,

I own its nutrients and bends,

I own the rock on which it sits,

And molten rock beneath that seat,

Of which I am not yet aware;

I own all treasure buried there,

All fuel and metal down below;

I own the falling rain and snow

That land upon this marked plane,

Own sky - the slice of shifting air,

I own all light that shines from there

And feeds the land with strength to grow -

I own them all,

Forevermore,

Until the whole Earth, piece by piece, is stripped of mass by human means;

I own the chance to walk through here,

I own the reach to what is near,

The easy access to enjoy

What neighbours gain through any ploy;

I own all this, till no clear end.

That is, for short -

I OWN THIS LAND."

Old Nate, he owned a piece of fruit,

But when it spoiled, the point was moot.

Old Claire, she owned her skillful hands,

And lived quite well, but met her ends.

Old Greg, with wit to spare for three,

Drew up and built a factory,

But even looms grew old and broke

And turned to dust and wreck and smoke

On ground that's owned by sir Old Brenn,

A distant offspring of that Man.

And now, in times of we free men,

A Man came forth with suit and pen,

And with his wit, or maybe fate,

A number did he calculate.

The Man did not for moment dwell

Of how he numbers can command,

Instead, he left that to the state,

And got a paper, sealing fate:

"I own this zero, I own this one,

I own their product, factor, sum;

I own the correlates in codes,

That can make numbers look like words;

I own its spread, I own its use,

And what derives from it by muse;

Own here and there, own now and then,

On disks, on film, paper and pen,

Own everyplace it can remain,

Including, really, your own brain -

I own! And none can copy me,

Not even rediscovery

Can pass through walls the state will build,

To give my right a proper shield

Until the term dissolves away -

That's never, have I any say.

If that will come, until that time,

Else, for all times -

THIS NUMBER'S MINE!"

Will Nate and Claire and Greg, like lumber,

Forever kneel 'neath new Man's number?

Or will we take, and leave for all

What people cannot truly own?

3 Comments
2022/11/21
07:22 UTC

8

The Grotesque Legacy of Music as Property

0 Comments
2022/11/13
12:48 UTC

0

The Myth of Science as a Public Good

1 Comment
2022/10/27
21:58 UTC

21

copyright abolition flag

5 Comments
2022/09/09
12:14 UTC

4

im so glad i found this sub reddit i have an interesting question about type beats and physical copies

Hypothetically if an artist were to purely go the ecommerce route to monetize their music "under the table" by selling merch including cd's with leased beats but that said artist did not upload to streaming platforms, only uploading the music on the website to download for free; what would be required of the artist to allow fans the ability to upload that music to a streaming platform themselves and monetize it without legal repercussion from producers and general platform guidelines?

tldr; how do i legally allow my fans to upload/monetize my music on streaming platforms with my permission automatically?

1 Comment
2022/08/15
06:35 UTC

0

Noip and Unifi udmp

0 Comments
2022/08/06
09:04 UTC

50

The absurdity of "intellectual property".

21 Comments
2022/07/21
19:53 UTC

22

Fuck copyright - "Context: the livestream got taken down yesterday"

2 Comments
2022/07/11
22:38 UTC

2

What are the limitations of intellectual property in an international context ?

4 Comments
2022/06/24
22:07 UTC

0

What are the limitations of intellectual property in an international context ?

0 Comments
2022/06/24
22:07 UTC

0

NOIP Showerthought: A copyrighted or patent today is potentially worth twice as much as it was 50 years ago, because the population has doubled in that time, so there are more prospective buyers.

Yes, there are a lot more works and inventions available thanks largely to the internet so it could be harder to find buyers, but still, if you have a blockbuster movie for sale, you can sell it to twice as many people as you could 50 years ago.

title edit: copyrighted

1 Comment
2022/06/22
22:36 UTC

12

Google, Microsoft, Apple, Oracle, and others are patenting every type of software snippet, code, etc. imaginable; and yes, even open source.

1 Comment
2022/03/13
20:06 UTC

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Are you contributing to the business model revolution?!

1 Comment
2022/01/01
22:37 UTC

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