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The Austrian economic way of thinking

Value is subjective (personal). Individuals apply means (action) to their ends, according to ideas. From this, social phenomena (language, prices, money, order) emerge. More info: article, video

Feel free to discuss, criticize, and expand Austrian economic thought in method and application, as a social movement, and also the sciences and ideas that are related to it.


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Recommended Reading

INTRODUCTION TO AUSTRIAN ECONOMICS

Economics in One Lesson - Henry Hazlitt

What Has Government Done With Our Money- Murray Rothbard

I, Pencil - Leonard Read

Handbook on Contemporary Austrian Economics - Peter Boettke

Ten Great Economic Myths - Murray Rothbard

PRINCIPLES

Principles of Economics - Carl Menger

Capital and Interest - Eugen von Böhm-Bawerk

Human Action - Ludwig von Mises

Man, Economy, and State w/ Power and Market - Murray Rothbard

Individualism and Economic Order - F.A. Hayek

Capitalism - George Reisman

Essai sur la Nature du Commerce en Général (Essay on the Nature of Trade in General) - Richard Cantillon

Natural Value - Friedrich von Wieser

Lectures on Political Economy - Knut Wicksell Volume 1 and Volume 2

METHODOLOGY AND EPISTEMOLOGY

Epistemological Problems of Economics - Ludwig von Mises

The Counter-Revolution of Science - F.A. Hayek

Economic Science and the Austrian Method - Hans Hermann Hoppe

An Essay on The Nature and Significance of Economic Science - Lionel Robbins

The Economic Point of View - Israel Kirzner

Theory and History - Ludwig von Mises

Praxeology and Understanding - George Selgin

The Pretense of Knowledge - F.A. Hayek

Economics and Knowledge - F.A. Hayek

Cost and Choice: An Inquiry in Economic Theory - James Buchanan

Big Players and the Economic Theory of Expectations - Roger Koppl

The Empirics of Austrian Economics - Steve Horwitz

HISTORY OF THOUGHT

The Making of Modern Economics - Mark Skousen

Economic Thought Before Adam Smith (Volume 1) - Murray Rothbard

Classical Economics (Volume 2) - Murray Rothbard

History of Economic Analysis - Joseph Schumpeter

A History of Economic Thought: The LSE Lectures - Lionel Robbins

ECONOMIC HISTORY

America’s Great Depression - Murray Rothbard

A History of Money and Banking in the United States - Murray Rothbard

The Great Depression - Lionel Robbins

The Politically Incorrect Guide to the Great Depression and the New Deal - Robert Murphy

Early Speculative Bubbles and Increases in the Supply of Money - Douglas E. French

The Transformation of the American Economy 1865-1914 - Robert Higgs

The Panic of 1819 - Murray Rothbard

The Forgotten Depression - James Grant

MONETARY THEORY

Microfoundations and Macroeconomics: An Austrian Perspective - Steve Horwitz

Money: Sound and Unsound - Joe Salerno

The Theory of Money and Credit - Ludwig Von Mises

Less Than Zero - George Selgin

The Origins of Money - Carl Menger

The Mystery of Banking - Murray Rothbard

Denationalisation of Money - F.A. Hayek

Choice in Currency - F.A. Hayek

The Ethics of Money Production - Jörg Guido Hülsmann

Case for a 100 Percent Gold Dollar - Murray Rothbard

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Milei explaining the problem with state-owned companies

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Something I think is really important to remember for us pro-market people is that anti-market people primarly fixate on wealthy people existing. Most of them will not differentiate between non-crony capitalists and crony capitalists; to them, wealth inequality of any kind is disghusting.

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2024/11/09
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What information sources do you recommend if one wants to understand what the coming economic impact of the Trump administration will be? Ideally I would like credible sources from different perspectives, from left to right.

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2024/11/09
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I Hate Fascism So Much

Bank of Canada is complaining about the inevitable mortgage renewal crisis because of their ridiculous policy in the first place of low interest rates. This is the definition of the government trying to create a solution to a problem they created.

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/bank-of-canada_cdnecon-economy-mortgage-activity-7259990435425579008--Zm7?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop

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2024/11/08
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The common disdain of profit is misguided and harmful to society. In general, profit is a good thing and we need to encourage people to pursue profit, not discourage them

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2024/11/08
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No Christmas Bonus for you...

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2024/11/07
23:30 UTC

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Question about the Housing Market.

I know I'm in the minority on this, but I do believe that sometimes the Private Sector cannot do what it promises. Competition breeds Quality and lower prices, but how do you build a competing Airport in a specific town? If a natural resource only has one location, you can't build a second one nearby. For this reason, sometimes with limited options, the Public must be made to own these limited resources. It can be Managed by a private company, but it is forever owned by the Public Trust of all Citizens.

My question is this. Is housing a private venture, beholden to nobody but the owner? Or do Renters and Tenants deserve a say in how they live? I don't know the answer, but I would love some feedback.

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2024/11/07
22:02 UTC

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let's chill out with the politics for now. admire this beauty.

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2024/11/07
20:13 UTC

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Deflation Argument Debunked and Why Governments Want Inflation (Video)

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2024/11/07
18:07 UTC

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How to think about free trade, tariffs and economic warfare as an intelligent adult

Say Atlantis and Borealis are two countries that trade with each other. Both have their own unique demographic and cultural traits - such as population size, age, education level and distribution, as well as history, customs, etc. They also have their own territorial aspects - their landscape features, climate, soil and relative distance to other markets, availability or access to natural resources, capacity and quality of basic infrastructure, etc. None of these attributes change very fast, but nearly all of them change over the course of decades or centuries. And from the perspective of capital investments that are not very iliquid and with a very long term horizon for returns, these attributes are typically assumed to be fixed - i.e. Atlantis is this way and Borealis is that way.

These differences can make Atlantis more convenient than Borealis for some industry. Say the soil there is very good for planting wheat, whereas the soil in Borealis is better suited for planting tobbacco. It makes sense then for Atlantis and Borealis to each specialize in their respective "natural talents" so to speak, rather than impose tariffs to protect an inefficient aspect of their domestic markets.

So here's one thing where (I think) you and I agree - a tariff is always economically inefficient if the production in Atlantis and the production in Borealis are being charged similar taxes and constrained by similar regulations. In that scenario, investments would redistribute efficiently (i.e. such that the market marginal productivity was maximized), thus leading to economic surplus, and global capital formation. Furthermore, adding a tariff in this scenario becomes a subsidy to industry and labor that is non competitive. Farmers in Borealis start planting wheat, and those in Atlantis start planting tobbaco, and the result is more expensive wheat and tobbaco everywhere.

Here is another thing we agree - people are less inclined or otherwise capable to imigrate than capital. Even in abscence of policies that restrict their exit from or entrance into either country, there are tangible and intangible costs associated with packing their stuff and moving to a different place, and starting a new life there. Capital, on the other hand, has relatively low attachment to a given nation, thus being more inclined to go seek for better prospects of risk-adjusted profits, wherever they are.

Now assume Atlantis government decides to increase taxes on realized gross profits, unrealized capital gains, and to put more strict regulations, such as environmental protection codes, lower working hours, higher minimum wage, increased paid leave, healthcare and other entitlements. All of the sudden doing business in Atlantis becomes more expensive than doing it in Borealis, and that might shift the calculation for capital, that was previously deployed to efficiently lever the intrinsic advantages of each country.

Alternatively, the government from Borealis could have created a subsidy for capital. One way or another, that subsidy is paid for by a cost shift to the population. Maybe the form it comes is through higher taxes, inflation, or worse environment, work benefits, or social entitlements. It can also be in the form of constraining their ability to purchase imports, to invest abroad or even to simply move to another province or to emigrate from the country. And, for the same reason as the one listed above, doing business in Borealis becomes cheaper, so capital moves from Atlantis to Borealis.

So maybe the car industry in Atlantis moves its factories to Borealis, to avoid taxes and regulations. It can still sell to Atlantis, because there are no tariffs. And since people don't want to move from Atlantis to Borealis, that causes an increase in wages in Borealis, and a decrease in Atlantis. And since wages move (because they are commanded by capital, which is relatively free), even when people don't (because populations are more bounded to their homes), there is a net a wealth transfer, per capta, happening between the countries.

So here's where we disagree - if you do have a situation in which domestic businesses are being more burdened by your taxes and regulations and therefore choosing to go elsewhere, or if your trading partner is forcing their own local population to subsidize capital by taxing and regulating them, then you can use tariffs on their products to offset the wealth transfer and create economic surplus. Tariffs can neutralize the tax and regulatory arbitrage, thus making capital indiferent to jurisdiction, vis-a-vis those costs, and revert to a more efficient allocation, vis-a-vis other comparative advantages.

It makes no sense for you to put more taxes on cars that are built in your country, and that create jobs in your country, and bring wages to your country, than you do on cars that are built elswhere but ultimately sold to your population. You are reducing your wage adjusted labor productivity, i.e. transfering human capital, to the other country, and trading off real wages for a false impression of cheaper costs or higher margins on capital. It's dumb.

To summarize, when the tax and regulatory policies that affect capital and people in both countries are roughly consistent, free trade is the way to go because each country will specialize on its comparative advantages, and global welfare will increase. When they are very inconsistent - they can create net subsidies to capital migration, which causes net wage dislocation, from countries where policies are more pro-social to countries where policies are more pro-capital. And that is inefficient, because people are not migrating accordingly. That can create a net wealth transfer, which is exactly what China engineered.

If you say "oh ghee, but libertarians are not only against tariffs, they also want fewer taxes, regulations, social entitlements and open borders", I will say great, that would be ideal but it is not the real world we live in, where things like nation states exist. Maybe one day it becomes like that. But in the real world we live in, nation states exist, and you cannot imposed a libertarian policy across the board everywhere. But you can use tariffs to counter the capital arbitrage dislocations and net subsidies that taxes, regulations and entitlements create.

And that is how the guys from Trump team think. And they are 100% correct. I used to think like you and it took me a while to see how this works out, but once you see it, it's a fucking light bulb.

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2024/11/07
12:52 UTC

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MMT vs Austrian Economics debate - nice video

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2024/11/07
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Tariffs for Thee, But None For Me.

Anyone care to predict what tariffs will be placed against Communist Russia?

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2024/11/06
23:41 UTC

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Inflation Killed the Democrats at the End of the Day

People voted out the Democrats because inflation increased their cost of living. No matter how much economists told everyone that the markets are amazing and that they shouldn't complain, they did.

This now puts a damper on any MMT-like economic model where "debt can be inflated away" (yes, I heard people use that exact phrase), because a country can print as much money as it wants.

Any government that (has the FED) prints too much money will most likely lose their seats. Not that it needed saying to this crowd, but I hope this is the nail in the coffin for this bunk economic theory.

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2024/11/06
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Do you guys think that Trump is going to drain the swamp this time? 🤔

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Rent control harms cities AND renters. I've seen it in my country

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2024/11/06
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An underrated argument for libertarianism

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Legislated 35 hour work week bears its inevitable fruit

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“I’ll have some of that… oh wait”

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If freedom begets freedom like money begets money, why vote Oliver?

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2024/11/05
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Thoughts on this passage from Mises's Theory and History?

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2024/11/05
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Who are you voting for?

As a libertarian why would you vote for the candidate pushing for anti libertarian policies such as tariffs? Why are tariffs are good? Are we voting for harris or trump?

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2024/11/05
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In Search of Effective Platforms for Market Analysis

Hi all! I'm looking for suggestions on reliable market quote analysis platforms. TradingView has received a lot of praise, but it comes at a cost and has some delays in display. I’m currently using my brokerage software, which updates instantly, but it’s a pain to set up the indicators. I recently downloaded a free Premium version of TradingView here, which seems to be working fine, but I doubt how long it will last. Does anyone know any good alternatives? I'm sure there are other platforms that rival TradingView’s features.

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Austrian Economics Explained

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"Austrian economics is so stupid" "Have you read anything written by an Austrian economist" "No, but....."

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The 2024 Nobel Prize in Economics: Explained - Why Nations Fail

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