For those of you who believe they are putting clues about the ruse into TV, movies, and music, add this one to the list: https://youtu.be/SvY9Uq7I30Y?si=OrtkQulF7cU68fC5

I’ll do this in bullet point form for simplicity’s sake:

• Peace Walker was originally MGS5, but Konami forced Kojima to remove the number since it was coming out only on PSP at the time.

• Once Phantom Pain began to take shape, including the playable character, Kojima wanted to sorta break the fourth wall to hint at the player character’s true nature by insisting TPP was “V, not 5.” He said this himself.

So if neither Peace Walker nor Phantom Pain are the “real” MGS5, what would it have been?

• Option 1: A game about what the real Big Boss was doing in 1984 in the Middle East and Africa (operating as “Saladin,” finding Sniper Wolf and Gray Fox, establishing Outer Heaven, coming back to FOXHOUND, etc.)

• Option 2: A remake of Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake.

Either way, both would be about Big Boss as, or in the process of becoming a villain.

No I haven’t taken my meds today why do you ask

I was watching a video about an event that led to many Xbox 360 dev kits being dumped on the market. Has anyone heard of MGSV being run on a dev kit so see if anything extra can be found?

Solidus was meant to be the perfect clone of Big Boss. An issue I always had with this was his age in the fact that not only is he younger than Big Boss but also younger than Solid and Liquid. I believe that through Venom acting as an even more perfect clone than Liquid and Solid we can see how the effective problems with Solidus can be solved and issues with his age and certain aspects of MGS2 can be explained.

As Zero and Cipher in directly took part is assisting Big Boss create Venom Snake I believe they used the model of hypnosis and memetic training when creating Solidus.

Solidus was planned to be the perfect clone of Big Boss. A true twin Snake in a way that Solid or Liquid could never be. One thing always bugged me with this and that was his age. He cannot be the perfect clone if he is younger than Big Boss. He would be 17 by the time he fought in the Liberian Civil war with Raiden leading the Small Boy unit yet somehow comes across as being older than them. Not just a child trapped in a man’s body but a full man and effective leader by the time he is 17.

By Zero and cipher assisting with the effective cloning of Venom snake it was proved that you could create a perfect clone not even through use of actual genetic manipulation but through manipulation of someone’s memories and personality. By making someone fully believe they were someone else. I believe Cipher implemented this program that worked so well on Venom onto Solidus. This would circumnavigate the main mental age issue preventing from Solidus being the perfect clone of Big Boss under the control of cipher.

Venom was effectively created and established as the perfect double in 1984 when Solidus was 12. Most likely too young for his genetic manipulation to have taken place. By the time he is 17 and in the first Liberian civil war he could have underwent the same procedures that Venom Snake went under.

With Diamond dogs defeating XOF and Skull face this lead to Cipher having effectively full control of America and more or less the entire world allowing them to enact their plans without restriction with the exception of Big Boss establishing Outer Heaven and Zanzibar Land. But even so Kaz will eventually return to Cipher to assist Solid Snake and Big Boss too will also return to Cipher even if it is to trick Cipher and the AI system.

This would make it so that they had the perfect clone of Big Boss. Zero would get his wish of having the perfect secret agent and clone of Big Boss that was on the side of Cipher. This would eventually however come back to haunt them as Solidus was too perfect. Adopting his own effective Solid Snake apprentice through Raiden in Liberia. Alongside ultimately betraying them just like Big Boss did once he had became president and saw he was nothing but a pawn of the patriots.

Solidus therefore becomes the perfect clone of Big Boss not only physically through his advanced aging but mentally through cipher implementing the same program which was used on Venom. This can also explain how Raiden is effectively also the perfect clone of Solid Snake as having the same Big Boss figure through Solidus.

Solidus was meant to be the perfect clone of Big Boss. An issue I always had with this was his age in the fact that not only is he younger than Big Boss but also younger than Solid and Liquid. I believe that through Venom acting as an even more perfect clone than Liquid and Solid we can see how the effective problems with Solidus can be solved and issues with his age and certain aspects of MGS2 can be explained.

Solidus underwent same/similar training to Venom. Venom used as basis. Solidus as complete puppet. Perfect clone in every sense. A big boss who did not defect from patriot control. Solidus who had no power in office. Zero uses solidus as a loyal Big boss. Defeat of XOF as Cipher having complete control over American nation.

Explains why Solidus was able to act so much above his age. Basically be an older father figure for Raiden. Raiden also as a clone of Solid. Patriot control through Solidus being perfect control of Big Boss.

As Zero and Cipher in directly took part is assisting Big Boss create Venom Snake I believe they used the model of hypnosis and memetic training when creating Solidus.

Solidus was planned to be the perfect clone of Big Boss. A true twin Snake in a way that Solid or Liquid could never be. One thing always bugged me with this and that was his age. He cannot be the perfect clone if he is younger than Big Boss. He would be 17 by the time he fought in the Liberian Civil war with Raiden leading the Small Boy unit yet somehow comes across as being older than them. Not just a child trapped in a man’s body but a full man and effective leader by the time he is 17.

By Zero and cipher assisting with the effective cloning of Venom snake it was proved that you could create a perfect clone not even through use of actual genetic manipulation but through manipulation of someone’s memories and personality. By making someone fully believe they were someone else. I believe Cipher implemented this program that worked so well on Venom onto Solidus. This would circumnavigate the main mental age issue preventing from Solidus being the perfect clone of Big Boss under the control of cipher.

Venom was effectively created and established as the perfect double in 1984 when Solidus was 12. Most likely too young for his genetic manipulation to have taken place. By the time he is 17 and in the first Liberian civil war he could have underwent the same procedures that Venom Snake went under.

This would make it so that they had the perfect clone of Big Boss. Zero would get his wish of having the perfect secret agent and clone of Big Boss that was on the side of Cipher. This would eventually however come back to haunt them as Solidus was too perfect. Adopting his own effective Solid Snake apprentice through Raiden in Liberia. Alongside ultimately betraying them just like Big Boss did once he had became president and saw he was nothing but a pawn of the patriots.

Solidus therefore becomes the perfect clone of Big Boss not only physically through his advanced aging but mentally through cipher implementing the same program which was used on Venom. Then we can also see how Raiden too is also the most effective clone of Solid Snake by cipher as a result as well.

One idea I had for remaking MG1 was to have it closely mirror MGS3, since both games would be the first missions of Big Boss and Solid Snake respectively. And part of that, I think, should be including a “Virtuous Mission” scenario for Solid that would not only mirror Big Boss, but also bridge MGSV to “MGS0.”

Basically, Big Boss would order Solid to infiltrate a forward operating base of Outer Heaven - the old Seychelles Mother Base. By 1995, it’s been entirely stripped of all its important assets and facilities, an empty husk of what it once was. His mission is to extract some weapons scientists that could confirm whether or not Outer Heaven has the capability to launch a nuclear strike.

The infiltration goes smoothly at first, but then just as Snake’s about to extract the scientists, he’s ambushed by a masked Venom Snake and a large group of soldiers, who execute the scientists. Venom confronts Solid, distracting him by fighting him until Mother Base is demolished by C4. Venom is picked up by Pequod, while Solid is left unconscious, drifting in the Indian Ocean. He’s rescued by Gray Fox and taken back to America.

While Solid is in a coma, Fox goes on his N312 mission and is captured. When Solid wakes up, Big Boss sends him to Outer Heaven to try to rescue Fox, and once again confirm if the PMC has nuclear capabilities - and stop them if they do, in:

METAL GEAR SOLID 0: OUTER HEAVEN

I'm afraid...its been...9 years..

• In the timeline of MGSV Ground Zeroes, it’s mentioned that in 1977, a South African underground nuclear test site was forced to shut down due to international pressure. This site exists in real life, called “Vastrap.” In the game, the site would be located in a fictional South African province, called Galzburg, located in the Kalahari Desert along the tri-border between South Africa, Botswana, and Namibia.

• Sometime following this, the government is approached by Skull Face and XOF, who offer to buy the land under the guise of the SANR (South African Natural Resources) front company, and use it for R&D on vocal cord parasites, in exchange for fulfilling a contract as South Africa’s anticommunist deterrent against Mozambique, Zimbabwe, Namibian rebels, and Angola. Desperate due to their nuclear program being heavily criticized by the outside world (the 1979 Vela Incident being an example,) South Africa agrees to the deal.

• For the next five years, Vastrap is XOF’s underground laboratory and FOB. The various parasites seen in TPP are developed and tested there. After Skull Face’s death, XOF withdraws from Afghanistan and the Angola/Zaire border region, using Vastrap as their secret headquarters. The soldiers seen attacking Eli and attempting to take back Metal Gear Sahelanthropus in Mission 51 are deployed from there as well.

• My take on Chapter 3 of TPP would’ve seen Diamond Dogs discovering Vastrap to be XOF’s hiding place thanks to intel relayed from Ishmael (aka, the real Big Boss.) Ishmael would do backdoor dealings with the South African government to have DD take over XOF’s anticommunist deterrence contract and capture Vastrap for themselves. This would be accomplished by a massive, bloody battle in the desert and underground tunnels that would see XOF finally completely destroyed, their survivors either joining DD or scattering to the winds. Once captured, Ishmael orders Ahab (aka Venom Snake) and Revolver Ocelot to have Vastrap become the new “Mother Base,” which Ishmael would proclaim as “Outer Heaven.” This move would piss off Kazuhira Miller, eventually causing him to quit the company, briefly heading into early retirement.

• Over the next few years, Outer Heaven would fulfill their contract, sending soldiers to fight in the Mozambican and Angolan Civil Wars as well as the Namibian Independence War, and of course other warzones all over the world: Iraq, the Caucasus, Liberia, Yugoslavia, Somalia, Algeria, etc. Their soldiers become renowned as the best in the business of private military work. As well, they are often deployed domestically within South Africa to enforce apartheid.

• For the most part, things are peachy, although the world becomes increasingly suspicious of Outer Heaven when they begin building massive facilities above ground to demonstrate their strength and superiority - something Ishmael specifically told them NOT to do. The whole reason he had them move into an underground base from the prior open ocean facilities was specifically so they could keep their full power a secret from Cipher.

• Things change for the worse with the end of both the Cold War and the apartheid eras. At first, Nelson Mandela’s new government seemed to be fine with continuing to let Outer Heaven just do their own thing, until he outlawed the creation or storage of nuclear weapons anywhere on the nation’s soil as part of adhering to the United Nations’ attempt to rid the world of nukes. In a shock to the world, Outer Heaven reacted negatively to these new laws, and it ultimately resulted in them declaring independence from South Africa, becoming the world’s first “mercenary republic.”

• Concerned that Outer Heaven could have their own nuclear weapons, Nelson Mandela would demand action from the U.N. Security Council. They would ultimately decide to have the United States deploy their high-tech special forces unit, FOXHOUND, led by the legendary Big Boss, because of his experience with PMC’s. He decides to send agents Gray Fox and Solid Snake to investigate.

The Outer Heaven Uprising begins, in:

METAL GEAR SOLID 0: OUTER HEAVEN

My apologies, some weird glitch or shadowban or something happened with my last attempt. It seems I can’t make posts in the MGS sub so it just scrubbed the whole thing. Hopefully y’all can see this.

I wanna put something similar on a t shirt also.

Hideo Kojima worked on Ground Zeroes, but he handed off the work of MGSV to remote teams. The big clue here is the name Camp Omega. Omega is the last letter of the Greek Alphabet. It represents the end or last in a series, such as in electrical engineering to denote ohms Ω or Resistance, symbolizing the ultimate limit or conclusion. By releasing Ground Zeroes first as a secret Epilogue, Kojima would have created the Alpha and Omega which is a reference to God in the Bible being the beginning and the end.