Hey folks,

I've been toying with the idea of closing this subreddit and directing people to r/Cosmere. I wanted to explain why and give others a chance to share their opinion on the matter.

Most of you are probably aware that there are SEVERAL Brandon Sanderson-related subreddits. I know this is frustrating to some people, but I DO think there is value in the fragmentation that we have. r/Stormlight_Archive and r/Mistborn offer a place for people who are primarily interested in those series. r/Cosmere is a good one-stop subreddit for all things Cosmere with a clear spoiler policy. r/BrandonSanderson is more relaxed setting that also handles Brandon's non-cosmere works. And of course there are several others with their own unique purpose for existing.

You could argue that r/Elantris falls into the same boat as the Stormlight and Mistborn subreddits... But at the end of the day I'm skeptical that a specific subreddit will ever be necessary for these books. Stormlight Archive is an epic, 10-book series with quite a lot of appeal. Mistborn is a series of series that Brandon has big plans for and that also draws a big following of its own. These are two book series that could easily carry their own subreddit, if the Cosmere weren't part of the picture. I do not, however, expect Elantris to develop a fandom of it's own that is significantly distinct from the greater Sanderson/Cosmere fandom. There's just not many people who will want to have Elantris-specific conversations years after a new book is released.

With that in mind, I think it makes a lot more sense to use r/Cosmere as the "home" for Elantris discussion on Reddit. When the next book releases, you can ALREADY expect most of the conversation to happen in that subreddit. It's where the people are. The conversations there are much more likely to be seen by more people and much less likely to taper off a year or two down the road.

So that's my opinion on the matter.

I think some people would appreciate the option to unsubscribe from a subreddit that will never be terribly active. (and probably messes with their "best" sorting) And I think most of the posts here would be getting a lot more attention if they were post in r/Cosmere. No sense fragmenting the discussion just for the sake of it, right?

But I don't want to do this without at least making this announcement and giving people a chance to weigh in.

What do you guys think? Good idea? Bad idea? Why?

Thanks for taking the time to read this!

The original Elantris people were very educated about Aons, they hold large libraries and probably continue to research until the very end. We can know it since Galladon's father has a small library on advance Aons and lots of geographic books so he probably tries to find new Aons according to the landscape.

So how it is possible that they didn't know how to fix Elantris Aon after the earthquake?I'm sure this land had disasters before, river could had dried or change their course, forest cut down, the elantrian probably did minor changes in the Aons before.

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Also I'm not sure how Hrathen bite Dilaf, he was the master of the Dakhor monastery and probably much more capable than Hrathen in combat. Why Dilaf didn't know about Hrathen's Dakhor hand? I assume that Dilaf itself was the one who manipulate Hrathen hand when he was an apprentice in Dakhor monastery.

I expected more than I got but it was still an incredible book. My main 2 problems we're Sarene immediately being able to gain the trust of Raodens group which was very unrealistic. My second problem was the ending where they married right away despite not needing to, I was enjoying it more when they were falling for each other without rank mattering EDIT:He also didn't focus NEARLY enough on the really cool magic system which is why I enjoy Sanderson's books

So first, this is my first book by BS. I am planning to start mistborn this week so my understanding of the cosmere is non-existent.

So my question is who was Hoid? At the end of the newer edition book I read, there was a scene of him speaking with a black seon which I think are skaze? My guess is they are Fjordell versions of seon that the Dharkor use as per the bone Raoden inspected? Then Hoid goes into the lake that allowed you to free yourself by choice if you are Elantrian and disappears, I was a bit confused

so I'm listening to the audiobook for the second time and I noticed in the end, there's a character in the city Elantris when they're all being gathered up by the Fjordens, who is revealed as having been a secret Elantrian among the noble society for years. Is this actually what happened or did I mishear? I can't for the life of me remember what the character's name was, but I believe it was a member of Raoden's noble friends. How would he have pulled this off?

Someone over at the stormlight reddit asked if there was any connection between “Derethi” and the man from wandersail Derethil.

Thought I should ask here :)

Ps: autocorrect killed the title

Is the Shoad a natural occurring phenomena? I don't think so since the messed up Aon Rao is what made the process stop half way.

So finished my third reread of the cosmere and had a thought.

Did the Ire cause the Reod?

We dont know much about the Elantrian culture, but it seemed to be a happy, peaceful type community. free food, healthcare, healing, etc etc. Sorta Hippies.

From WOB, we know the Ire predated the Reod. at least the characters we see in secret history. We know Odium was not the cause, but devotion and dominion are kinda mixed on the cognitive plane.

What if the Ire were researchers trying to become vessels on Sel, and somehow inadvertently cause the Reod? They know a lot about connection and trying to absorb a shard when they try to take over preservation. They seem to be more ambitious compared to the hippie types we learn about in the elantris novel.

We know there is some large source of power the Ire base is using, are they somehow syphoning power from Sel into the cognitive realm? Maybe the skaze were influencing Elantrians as much as Fjorden and this lead to a splinter group that caused the Reod. intentional or not I dont know, but I got the impression the Reod was 'caused' by someone, not just a natural consequence of a natural earthquake.

Thoughts

For me one of the best is the last lines of the book, about Hrathen

Amazing book, trademark Sanderson awesomeness, but i could see that it's a bit rough on the execution side compared to other works.

I have a few questions regarding

1. Why didn't Raoden die when he fell into the shardpool?
2. Im guessing the wyrn(or their god/empire) was responsible for the chasm?
3. Hoid as beggar delivering weapons & Galladon was the only worldhopper that i noticed, were there others?

Thanks so much!!!

Cuticles would definitely send me early to the Hoed

I recently just finished listening to ELANTRIS on Audible. Gotta say I loved it! Sanderson is a master I need help, there is a passage in the book that says something along the lines of “Those who leave a religion tend to be more hateful towards it than those have never been in the religion” Serene is the one who says it, I believe it is about 75% into the book Could someone with a hard copy find it and take a picture of it and send it to me It would be much appreciated! Thank you!

My buddy Luke and I are starting a comedy fantasy/sci-fi book discussion podcast and we decided to do our first two episodes about Elantris! The show is Don't call it a book club (itunes, google play, website). We are in the really early stages but we have big goals. If you have any Aon Ial for other fantasy/sci-fi books you want us to cover, or any other thoughts on the show they would be very welcome.

In Elantris, Sarene mentions the constellations as being Aons. I wonder if the constellations are just "forced" into being Aons, or if the star patterns ACTUALLY ARE Aonic in shape above Arelon. Are the constellations over Fjordell similar: IE actually their magical symbols? Or just interpretations of random star patterns?

Mine is aon ati, because it is important to have hope in your life :)

I was recommended this book by a friend and it took me a while to get into it. The first few chapter were great at setting up tons of amazing mysteries, but everything not related directly to Elantris was so slow to develop. It took me a month to read the first half of the book.

Then thing start to speed up, and they never stop speeding up. Im kind of out of breath. It was llike a song that go faster and faster until it end very abruptly. I finished the second half in a day.

Are other books from Sanderson like that? I ended up liking Elantris, but the first half was really a chore to get through. I was recommended the mistborn series, but im really not sure its for me. Having firearm in a fantasy story is kind of out of place to me.

I've heard so much about Brandon Sanderson and I finally took the plunge. I am starting with elantris. I am not a huge fantasy reader, I am mostly sci-fi.

So, it is taking me a little bit of patience to get past the cartoonish sounding names. All the cities names seem like they came out of a Disney story but I am really enjoying the story so far. It's taking me some concentration but I have a feeling it's going to be worth it as I continue through the book

I finished listening to the audio book today, so I might spell the names wrong. Is it explained anywhere in the book how the chasm was created? I believe it could have been made by a priest from Fiorden. Would this be possible in the book's lore? Could it really have been a natural occurance?

Hello folks!

Last year I read First Era Mistborn and I was blown away. I love Sanderson's writing style so I thought I should go back to the start of his works and read forward. That way I get to enjoy his works and the progression of his quality in writing.

I finished Elantris this morning, and I loved it. The world, the religions, the conflict, everything. This is a trope of fantasy I haven't read much before on (at least in fantasy, I guess The Hunger Games and The Maze Runner is a somewhat similar trope). But WOW! what a book! There were a couple times where it felt a little slow but at the end when I put it down I was impressed in how much world building was done, and the extent of plot for a stand alone novel.

There are a fair number of open questions, some of which Sanderson even admits at the end haha. But overall awesome novel.

From here, I am thinking of either reading Second Era Mistborn, or Warbreaker. I thought I read somewhere that Warbreaker should be read between Way of Kings and Words of Radiance but I'm not sure if I'm just making that up in my head haha.

Cheers, Gnosh

It seems to have existed at one point, but I could only find excerpts on Arcanum. I am not sure if there was anything missing?

First of all, please avoid spoilers if possible! Otherwise, please tag them.

I'm currently reading the Definitive Tenth Year Anniversary Edition of Elantris for the first time, and I noticed the Deleted Scenes at the end of the volume, and that they have chapter numbers. I was wondering if I need to read them in their respective place, or if I should just read the book as it is and after that read the Deleted Scenes.

What would you recommend?

Edit: Already solved!

And I don't mean as in the shaod claiming ppl. I'm curious as to if someone like Raodon will be able to have a child with sarene or even another elantrian