/r/Znyder
Subreddit to discuss Zack Snyder, the visionary director behind Man Of Steel, 300, Watchmen, Batman V. Superman, Justice League and others! #RestoreTheSnyderVerse
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I’ve often considered Watchmen or Man of Steel to be one of if not the best Zack Snyder movie. But 300 is close as well. What do you consider to be his goated film? Watchmen? 300? Sucker Punch? Man of Steel? BvS? Debate below!
I rescored the warehouse scene from BvS for college project and I think it turned out pretty well
Please check it out!
With Gunn's DCU moving forward and most of the Snyderverse cast now out of the picture, I figured it would be fun to revisit Snyder's trilogy. I'll admit that I was kind of holding out hope for JL2/3, but the recent news only confirmed what I already assumed, which is that the Snyderverse has come to pass. So, I said sort of goodbye to this universe. I watched MOS, BvS, then ZSJL. It was really nice to watch these all together and see the overarching story, as well as little things that I hadn't noticed in the past. This trilogy stirred up controversy to say the least, but love it or hate it, this is the way that many of these characters were introduced to the current generation. The Dark Knight Trilogy did the same for Batman at the time, same with the Christopher Reeves franchise for Superman. The Snyderverse was a new era, telling new stories and exploring the characters in ways that hadn't quite been done before in film. It had its time in the spotlight, but now things are moving forward to another new era. I always enjoyed Snyder's movies, and will watch these films again and again for years to come, but I have now fully accepted that the trilogy is all we're going to get and that's okay. What we got in my opinion was amazing. My only hope is that what Gunn is planning is equally as good or even better. No matter what I'm going in with an open mind. Thanks Zack for what you've given us and best of luck to you with all future projects!
I’m looking to get in touch with movers in the Snyderverse movement because I think now is the time to produce a documentary about making the Justice League movies and all the drama that went into that. Like, people to could do crowdfunding and make contact with documentary makers, etc.
Is anybody interested? Does anybody know anybody?
Underrated: Episode 97- Sucker Punch [Film Reviews]
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This week the Undercast crew takes a look at a film that was a much maligned box office bomb and critical failure, Zack Snyder's Sucker Punch. But has everyone been getting this film wrong for years and is it a secret masterpiece?
On Underrated we discuss the films that we feel are; underrated, underappreciated, and even ones that have just slipped under the radar and passed most people by.
It was just released on YouTube, based on the original story boards. I enjoyed it and it was nice to see that piece of Zack’s story realized to a certain extent. Would love to talk about it with other folks as I have a lot of questions regarding it.
Link to video: https://youtu.be/e5XnTQ9061o
When you compare zack snyder to the directors of batman films in the past and present, he has a surprising amount in common with them. Man of steel was a character focused origin story that showed the more human side of Clark Kent (people will debate me on that) dealing with a villain/conflict that not only directly challenged his beliefs about not fitting in among people, but it was also very linked to him and his origins from Krypton. His existence and search for knowledge about his past was what caused Zod to find and attack Earth. The villain was a relic from his past, the only other surviving member of his species, that he had to symbolically kill so that he could become a hero for the people of Earth and accept his place among them. A pretty incredible and thoughtfully told solo story (imo) with a focus on superman.
I've heard rumors that WB intended to make a solo Batfleck movie, but I'm actually much more glad that they didn't. Lex Luthor and Batman as supporting characters in Superman's growing journey in being accepted by humans and earning their trust is exactly what a sequel to the original Man of Steel needed. We briefly follow Batman, his motivations (his parents' death), his outlook on crime and his position to stop it (so how he's become more sullen and has crossed that no-killing boundary, and how he's suffered for it), his mood (grief after robin's death), and his composure/stability (he is no longer innocent to what criminals are capable of). This movie focuses on the aftermath of Superman's reveal to the world that he exists. How every day people view him, through the Daily Planet scenes, the news, the scenes of him saving people and acting as a messiah-like figure. After he was forced to reveal himself, and he fully embraced his position as a hero among people, people started to become skeptical of how loyal he really was to people that he shared so little in common with. It seemed too good to be true. They saw him as a monster that couldn't be tamed, or as a power-hungry god with hidden intentions. Two quotes from BvS:
"if God is all-powerful, He cannot be all good. And if He is all good, then He cannot be all-powerful."
"Men fall from the sky, the gods hurl thunderbolts, innocents die. That's how it starts, sir. The fever, the rage, the feeling of powerlessness that turns good men... cruel."
Batman is a perfect representation of this hyper awareness of how easily good men can become corrupt. While other people blindly worship Superman because of his immortality, Bruce knows the truth. Under all the alien abilities, he's just as weak and vulnerable as any other man.
" You're not brave. Men are brave "
Lex is also representative of how people would react to Superman's existence. Honestly I'm surprised more people in the world didn't react the same way Lex did after the apocalyptic level event that went down in Metropolis in Man of Steel. However, he's much less sympathetic than Bruce was. He doesn't believe in the humanity of monsters. And he doesn't believe that any one being should have that much power and authority on who lives and dies. He goes through with his plan only on the notion that what he's doing is for the greater good of humanity.
"You don't need to use a silver bullet. But if you forge one, you don't need to depend on the kindness of monsters."
I think that Batman and Lex being villains in this movie works perfectly with the themes that are being shown. It's humanity fighting back against a threat to their survival. Lex and Superman both want the same things, but the only difference between Bruce and Lex is that Bruce showed empathy for Clark, while Lex couldn't.
In Justice League (the Snyder cut), Bruce feels like it was his responsibility that Superman died, and takes up the mantle that Superman left behind to save the world from chaos (alien threats). He does all that he can out of guilt to right the wrongs that he left behind, assembling a team of superhumans that can fill in Clark's place as the protectors of Earth. However, he realizes that it wasn't enough. (they're nothing without Superman) All this time, he couldn't do enough. And he even attacked Clark in BvS instead of putting faith in his humanity first. It was a lapse in his judgement, when he tried to kill Clark. It was the worst of him, these years of pain, grief and anguish building up to kill the one person who was capable of saving the world. So when Clark is brought back to life, Batman, instead of coming up with a plan to stop him, he confronts Clark head on and accepts the consequences of what he's done. Even in Justice League, the story is still heavily influenced and driven by Superman.
I think the main issue that I have with everything after BvS is that the stories lack focus. Warner Brothers is trying so damn hard to establish an extended universe, when all they're doing is dragging this story through more and more movies and spreading the focus so far between every character that any kind of emotional impact we have towards these characters is gone. Even the Snydercut, for as much as I love it, I know that it was four hours long because the focus was so vast and spread between all these characters. If the snyderverse somehow continues, then they're going to continue with this extended universe idea, but I think that if the DCEU just let Zack direct a Superman trilogy, where the focus is soley on Clark's journey as a character and the responsibilities that come with being Superman, we would have a much better Clark Kent.
I have seen an article staying WB has no interest in making JL2/3 and another one with Zack Snyder confirms no sequel for Justice League. Sooo, that's it?
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I'm about to have my 4th viewing after I type this. I'm blown away by how amazing and beyond my expectations this Film was. I adore it and I only wish and hope WB decides to hopefully somehow let Snyder continue his vision and universe with the same actors.
How many times have you watched it now?
Did it meet or exceed your expectations?
So far, we know that there are no plans for a sequel. We must act now, my fellow keyboard warriors.
Who can organize a campaign in order for JL2 to happen? Where do I donate?
I have an apartament I can put on mortgage. JL2 must happen.
I just watched the whole thing in one sitting yesterday and hopped on to the internet to find out what critics thought of it.
To my surprise it seems as if every critic went in to see this movie thinking it’s supposed to be some fun summer blockbuster or a 90 minute light hearted and forgettable marvel flick.
Here’s why you shouldn’t listen to any review trying to smack the Snyder cut.
This Cut isn’t canon, he knew nothing would come to fruition in the future from this, Henry left the DCEU alongside Ben Affleck who also stepped down from directing and starring as Batman, so in short, Zack’s vision for the future of this universe has died with Whedon’s come up as the new director and subsequent executive intervention over at WB which is basically run by idiots who only care about a quick buck, unlike Marvel Studios and Disney who actually have the sensibility to stick with a direction to a universe and pull it off with one vision in mind.
What Zack did was basically give us a send off to his vision by throwing everything he’s got at us, giving us every last bit of juice he could do we can get a taste of things that could have been, setting up all the solo movies, and the rest of the JL trilogy to a climax that, to his fans, would be a dream come true.
This isn’t your typical cinematic head clearing experience, this is a journey, a journey with heroes and stories that’s meant to appeal to a crowd that actually knows their shit, when that Martian Manhunter cameo came out of nowhere I lost my shit, when I realized that he managed to shove in so many references and so many set ups for characters like Atom, Dr. Fate, GL, MM, and others my mind was blown, the sheer potential this vision of his had.
That’s the point these critics miss, if you’re not interested, it’s probably not for you, I don’t think the people who asked for a very specific and niche cut of a very niche and specific film wanted a crowd pleasing generic movie, we wanted an experience, to see the vast DC plot line on screen for the first time, while staying true to the source. And boy did we get what we asked for.
So go on, and enjoy this masterpiece.