Episode Discussion Archive

I started this show bc I'm on a Hugh Dancy kick. He was fantastic (and looked beautiful too). All the actors were good, actually. Too bad the writing was all over the place. Season 2 had "soap opera" level logic. Fast forwarded thru all of Hawk's stuff. Cal's and Mary's arcs were most interesting to me. It's clear they wanted this to be a prestige hit, and maybe it could have been with better writing. Anyway...on to finding my next Dancy project to watch:)

I'm still on season 2, so no spoilers please, but Kathleen Tunrner's performance is great! I miss her

What is the song that the Meyerists always sing about Steven Meyers climbing the ladder & finding the rungs? Russell (Eddie’s brother in law) sings it while playing the guitar in one scene. I think it’s the same song that Sarah hears & figures out where the cave is from the words of the song. I heard the real version of the song but can’t find it to hear it again.

What is the "dolsocts" next to the $250,000. Spent 30 min asking Google in a hundred different ways. Even if it isn't relevant, my brain needs to know what it is and why it's there haha

I love Hugh Dancy and wanted desperately to watch this show for him but I have a major trigger about watching alcoholism and relapses in stories which I've heard is a major component of cals story.

I was wondering if someone could spoil me what Cals role was in the show and what his major character developments are and if he ends up having a satisfying character arc by the end. I saw he has an entry in Whumpedia that deals with both alcoholism and child abuse so no need to censor any details, thank you so much ...

i'm curious how did the meyerists get so rich in S3. fancy new building massive load of people they pay for. can this be explained or did sarah blackmail jeff bezos?

How did the phone get taped under the exam table in the cult clinic?

I have watched this episode 3 times now and still havent seen who put it there.

I thought maybe Sam put it there to get the heat off of him as the FBI informant.

Or, was the nurse who got the boot over the burner phone actually the owner?

Can anybody unravel this for me please?

Anyone else looking to climb through rungs

This whole show I’ve been curious about whether or not it’s true. I know in the actual world I’d say it’s a cult, but having eddy a denier have visions and they be right. And Lilith having visions.

If there was a season 4, do you think it was true?

And is Eddy just saying fuck it, I’m a leader let’s be a religion?

Is it trying to show this is how all religions are?

Any input?

I’m doing another rewatch and found this sub. I love this show but holy hell Mary and Sarah bother me! Mary is manipulative AF and Sarah is beyond hypocritical and selfish. What are your thoughts on the leading women? Eddie and Hawk are my favorite characters.

I don’t know how active this subreddit is but figured I’d post in case it still gets traffic. Stumbled onto this show and just wrapped up season 3 and wanted to share my thoughts. Seems like this is the only place I see any discussion of the Path which is wild to me!

Is the show perfect? No. Not even close. The dialogue can be overdone, the characterization is all over the place sometimes, hell even the acting is a bit rough.

And yet I still love it. I smiled at Aaron Paul’s breath whispering every scene when everyone else is speaking at normal volume. I laughed throughout season 2 when Hawk and Sarah kept playing hot potato with their allegiance to Cal. I love that the first two seasons is through and through a love triangle with some cult drama, and as weird as some of the writing choices for the third season were to me, Cal’s arc was god tier and I LOVE that it ended with the three of them working together.

I really am bummed that there was no season 4, I think season 3 prepped them perfectly to have a dope final season where it’s the three of them and maybe Mary later on taking down everyone in their way to save the Meyerist movement, in whatever context that means to them. Gimme my four guardians finally happy and let them live next to each other somewhere with a garden in between damnit!

I am on season 1. Sarah just keeps pissing me off. She is totally unreasonable, unrelatable, and a hypocrite. The character development is awful.

Nicole & Russell and their kids, especially by the last few episodes they're all just completely gone and not spoken of.

Noa (Melanie Griffith's daughter/Hawk's gf).

Abe/Sam (FBI).

Bill (Felicia's partner).

Alison (the OG girl who left and hid in dirty motel rooms).

Please add to this list or tell me where I missed the part explaining what happened to these once important-to-the-plot people.

Chloe mentioned Barney the dinosoar and she had to explain to him who that is. It's been mentioned a few times he was in the movement for 20 years.. barney has been around since before he would have left for sure.

Update: he remembers GI Joe... ???

I know why Sarah thinks Eddie is cheating but why does she think it's Miranda frank? Who is Miranda frank; is she a member of the movement? Also, if he's so easily swayed back into believing in meyerism (understandably so- because he loves his family) then it seems like admitting that you're having doubts for a minute is better than letting your wife think you've cheated. Seems like they would help him to stay in their movement rather than punish him as bad as they did for cheating and wife wouldn't be as pissed but be proud of him that he got over his doubts.

And another... what is IS?

I was wondering have the creators of the show been asked how they planned to end it? It looked like a season 4 would be about government, other religions, and spin-offs of Meyerism all coming after Eddie and the Meyerist as they fight for church status. Then you had Calvin’s secret being dug up as well.

The most depressing part was they were still on track for the depressing apocalypse that Sarah saw when Lillith did that cleanse on her. Remember it has to get as big as it does and then Eddie dies and when it collapses so does the world. And in the vision Eddie and Sarah are back together. They didn’t change anything. I even bet Bali comes back to being a new location and it being on a wolf moon night.

Just wonder did they ever intend for the show to end with the apocalypse happening and Eddie dying to usher that in or did he find another path that helped save the world? That’s my question because it setup to seem like the world ends and the only few saved are those following Lillith and btw are as armed as Branch Davidians. How are they going under the radar.

I'm on season 2 episode 8. Somewhere between Aaron Paul's acting and the plot, I am losing interest fast.

It feels more and more like "this is Aaron and his show. He is the main character and the protagonist, just the all around good guy who gets to have a dumb blonde girlfriend AND lead on his beautiful wife". It's like a child playing pretend.

He is over-dramatizing his character and its not cute. And please stop holding women's faces in that way ( especially ew, Chloe), it just makes you look like a dramatic rapist

I'm a few episodes into S3 and just find it kinda ridiculous that nobody seems to notice Silas is missing STILL (except Sarah of course). Makes it pretty easy to get away with murder if everyone happens to simultaneously forget about the victim's existence right after you kill them.

Does anyone know what that tiny machine with the person outline the lights (on the chakras?) is or how it "works"? My google searches are not coming up with anything even remotely useful...

Anyone think there could be a resurgence in interest in the show considering the last 12 months of our lives?

So, I’ve just gotten through the entire series I’ve been so frustrated and lost the whole time. Episodes starting out like an ending, re-capping things I never saw, it just seemed like plots were changing so quickly without any explanation and I sometimes would have to pause and make sure I hadn’t accidentally skipped an episode. It was literally not until the series finale that I realized Hulu was starting the episodes at random points in the episode while watching in auto play. So I’d start an episode and not realize it was already midway through the episode, then the next episode they’re re-capping things I never saw but since I was watching on auto play I assumed I wasn’t missing anything and it was just a weird choice the show made to keep is in the dark. When it auto-played the finale it started at them letting Felicia go and then Vera’s funeral. I’m like, this is weird yet another episode beginning that feels like an ending and doesn’t explain wtf happened to get us here....and then the episode ends! I knew I had literally just started it so that’s when I finally figured it out. I thought the episodes were 30 min all along bc every episode was starting at least half way through. I was DESPISING the show because I thought the choppy style and leaving us in the dark was an artistic choice.

I think partially the show did have that style which is why it was possible for me to write it off as intentional that I was missing a ton of info. The characters were constantly changing their minds and doing things to contradict their own character, everything about the show seemed dis-jointed and based on other reviews I’ve read I know that was not just because of my personal viewing error. I hate that the show didn’t have a clear viewpoint on the subject. Is it a cult? A religion? Supernatural? Is it good? Bad? They couldn’t seem to pick a lane and stay in it. The characters seemed to have so much conviction when it came to some things and then none when it came to others. Storylines would start and then never be resolved or mentioned again. And god the intense whisper yelling and slow talking that Eddie did every time he was on screen in season 3 was infuriating. Do we ever find out who ran Sarah off the road? WTF was the whole point of the nazi kid? There were so many sub plots that seemed like they started just to lead into another plot or support some other storyline but the damn dissonant music playing in the background during these scenes makes you think it’s an important plot point, but then it turns into nothing and it’s never mentioned again. I just feel like you never really get a sense of who ANY of the characters are except maybe Cal and Mary. Everyone else it’s like they’ve got a brand new personality with a brand new belief system every few episodes.

I had to push myself just to finish the series and now I feel cheated bc my hatred of it isn’t valid bc I didn’t watch it right! I don’t think I can force myself to watch the whole thing again, but I am curious to see if my opinion would change. I just don’t understand why Hulu would let this happen especially to one of their original series. It wasn’t like it was a re-watch and it was autoplaying near the end because of that, I had never watched the show and it started the episodes mid-way through the episode. So annoying.

Also it really bothered me that Sara and Eddie so nonchalantly decided to tell everyone CAL’s truth about HIS trauma. Like I get it, the people deserve to know they’re worshipping a pedo but Sara knew for a while and kept it a secret and then they literally ask him to go on TV and defend his abuser [which is just like- WTF??] then a day later they’re like lol JK now we’re gonna be honest and tell everyone about your trauma that you just recently discovered and are trying to work through. And he’s like “please I’m not ready” and they’re like “well too bad.” The level of entitlement there is nauseating. Most of the characters were incredibly unlikeable, it made the show very hard to watch.

I wonder if the show resonates more with people who have actually been in a cult. Maybe it’s a great representation of people in cults and what it’s like to be in one and I just can’t appreciate it because I’ve never lived that experience 🤷🏻‍♀️ orrrr maybe the show was just poorly executed.

In the first season they are focusing on helping addicts. Specifically, it seemed like they were focusing on opiate addicts as they had buprenorphine at the ready for that blonde girl who has the relationship with cal. Then they are helping the really rich family and talking out giving their drug addict son ‘the medicine’, which sarah explains is DMT/ayahuasca. What has always gotten my goose was their choice of drug to be ‘the medicine’. DMT has some anecdotal history of helping drug addicts and people with other emotional/psychological issues, but IBogaine, extracted from the roots of an indigenous plant from Gabon, has a much longer clinically documented history of actually working genuine miracles for people with heroin addictions. It’s been documented as also working with cigarette addiction, depression and whole host of other ailments. So my point is, why the fuck did the writers of the show choose DMT over iboga. It makes no sense, especially since it’s safe to assume that if your aware of one drug, your alMost certainly also gonna be aware of the other drug. It reallly bothers me that they missed an amazing chance to educate a larger part of the population about this amazing drug that is sadly illegal in America (as DMT/ayahuasca is also). I know this is specific and almost odd as a thing to bitch about, but this is Reddit so whatever.

(Spoilers) Question about S2E13 "Mercy"

Just finished Season 2 and pumped to watch Season 3. At about the 17:38 mark of S2E13 Agent Gaines says to Eddie "Don't fuck with my kids anymore." To what is this referring to? When was Eddie fucking with his kids???