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Just got done.. and one of the MANY things I’d like to say is.. JAMES IS SO FINE‼️‼️ also I’m happy I got the leave ending, I just watched all of the endings in a compilation and some of them are depressing asf😔
Never thought this two franchises I love could coexist somehow
I was reading that Grey Children were only present in the North American version of the original Silent Hill. I was just wondering if konami originally wanted them to be children but had to change them to Mumblers in the Japanese version, or if the Americans just wanted to make them children.
Your favorite weapon is..
The steel pipe.
Do I need an emulator to run it or smth like that? Can somebody give me instructions how to do it if possible?
Was waiting for a price drop and Walmart came through today for $30! Can’t wait to play it.
Silent Hill is about a lot of things, love, hope, guilt, loneliness, about lose.... It's about a lot of things, horror is just one of them. I got 55 years, I play first Silent Hill 2 when it come out, and I forget all the story, thanks Gosh, so now I can play the Remake like first time, but I never forget the image, the picture of a letter of your dead love. That is so powerful.... That's all, I need to say it to someone else.
So I’m playing the PT “remake” on dream for ps5 and all was going well until the final puzzle. While I applaud the creator for being creative im beginning to descend into insanity trying to solve it. Looking online everyone talks about triggering the second baby laugh well as far as I know I can’t even trigger the first one!! Pretty sure I’ve done 10 steps when the clock sounds on multiple occasions already and as far as I know not a single baby laughter :( I even went super slow just to make sure I wasn’t miscounting on accident. Does anyone know what’s going on here? Could I have missed it and move on a try to trigger the second laughter to check? I admit I don’t usually have my volume up super high. Idk please help haha
The SH2 remake is easily my favorite game this year but I decided to put it down to give this a shot. Any other games from bloober you guys recommend?
Absolutely spoilers here.
Sorry to make another thread but I can't find any commentary on this.
In the original, when you watch the videotape, James very clearly kisses Mary on the head before committing the deed and it looks like he says something to her as well: https://youtu.be/bvpTsXHQI0g?si=GWjD6jt116vYytGK
In the remake, I see no such gesture. He appears to be approaching her bed already with the pillow hovering and immediately smothers her. She also appears to be sleeping: https://youtu.be/sddiKoWWmV8?si=_7Pvw3FMCy0b3OIW
Not to microanalyze differences between the versions, but if I'm seeing things right that is a HUGE change to the complexion of the act. Makes James far less sympathetic. It doesn't really show any mercy to kill her in her sleep given the violence of the cause of death.
Am I interpreting this right? It's hard to see exactly what's happening in both videos. Thoughts on this?
What is the name of the ambient song that plays when wandering the town? I haven’t noticed it in the official soundtrack on spotify.
I see some confusion on how you get each of the normal endings in Silent Hill 2, both original and remake, so I'd figure I would show how it works for people to use as a guide.
BASICS THAT APPLY TO BOTH
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Both versions use a scoring system for each of the three endings. Each has a default score given at the start of the game.
The defaults are the same in both. LEAVE - 5, MARIA - 3, IN WATER - 2.
In the case of ties, the priority goes 1st - LEAVE, 2nd - MARIA, 3rd - IN WATER. The exception to this is you've achieved at least one ending, but not all of them. For example, let's say you got Leave on your first playthrough. On your 2nd, Leave and In Water tie. While normally the game would give it to Leave, it sees you've already gotten it and you haven't seen In Water, so it gives it to the latter instead.
Additionally, the game will start to weight to the other endings after your first playthrough. For instance, let's say again you got Leave on your first playthrough. On your 2nd, the game will give a +1 bonus to Maria and In Water's default scores, increasing them to 4 and 3 respectively. If on your 2nd you get Maria, then on your 3rd In Water will get a bonus of +2. This is usually referred to as the Unseen Ending Bonus.
If you go in and do nothing that noteworthy, you're strongly likely to run into the Leave ending by default due to the game favoring that with the higher default score and taking the highest priority in ties. I've seen several blind playthroughs end with Leave.
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ORIGINAL
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LEAVE
MAX - 7
DEFAULT - 5
MIN - 4
+1 Listen to the entire conversation in the hall before the Final Boss
+1 Overheal by at least 200%. (To explain, let's say James has 70% HP and uses a med kit to heal 50%. The leftover would be 20%, which gets added to the overheal counter. Have that add up to 200% and you get a point)
-1 After meeting Maria in Rosewater Park, head back the way you came and be corrected on Maria in where to go.
MARIA
MAX - 8
DEFAULT - 3
MIN - -3
+1 Spend 10 minutes or more near Maria (This is bugged as the counter is always going up even when Maria isn't with you. Confirmed with the original PC veresion at least)
+1 Check back on Maria in the Hospital S3 room (This is bugged as you are given the point even the first time you enter the room, which is mandatory. Confirmed with original PC at least)
+1 Bump into Maria less than 3 times
+1 If Maria takes less than 3% of the total damage James has taken (If James has received 0 damage, you always get the point)
+1 Try to re-enter the cell with Maria in the Labyrinth at least twice
-1 Look at the photo and/or letter from Mary at least twice
-1 Spend 5 minutes or more far away from Maria
-1 Deal 32 points of damage YOURSELF to Maria
-1 Deal 80 (Beginner/Easy) 40 (Normal/Hard) points of damage YOURSELF to Maria
-1 Hilariously, bump into Maria at least 30 times
IN WATER
MAX - 8
DEFAULT - 2
MIN - 2
+1 Listen to the entire conversation in the hall before the Final Boss
+1 Read the Diary on the Hospital Roof
+1 Read the 2nd message that appears later on in Neely's Bar
+1 Examine Angela's Knife
+1 Have a Bad Health Score of 60. (Your bad health score only increases when James' HP is below 50%. It's calculated by the formula: badhealth += (1 - sin(hpPercent * 3.141592741))
+1 Have a Bad Health Score of 240
No way to decrease your In Water score
So yeah, Leave is the general favored first ending. But it should be reasonably easy to get Maria and In Water if you know what to do. You have a 1 or 2 point margin of error (depending on the decreases you hit)
Also, the game determines your ending once you exit the hallway before the final boss. Nothing you do after leaving it will affect your ending.
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REMAKE
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LEAVE
MAX - 14
DEFAULT - 5
MIN - 4
+1 Examine Mary's letter and/or photo 3 or more times
+1 Overheal James by 600 points
+1 Kill less than 150 enemies
+1 Choose the Snake Coin
+1 Don't attack Pyramid Head during his first fight
+1 During the prison gallow's puzzle, choose the poem that represents Eddie or Angela
+1 For the Mirror Puzzle, pick the Rotten apple
+1 Choose the Rust-Colored Egg door
+1 Listen to the entire conversation in the hallway before the final boss
-1 Get corrected going the wrong direction by Maria at least 7 times
MARIA
MAX - 11
DEFAULT - 3
MIN - 2
+1 Choose the Woman Coin
+1 Let Maria enter the Auto Shop, Respond to her dress question, pass through the locked gate at Jacks Inn (mandatory), and Talk to Maria at the Baldwin Mansion. You must do all 4 of these to get the point
+1 Interact with all objects at Heavens Night
+1 Check Maria all 4 times at the Hospital
+1 During the prison gallow's puzzle, choose the poem that represents James
+1 Revisit Maria's room in the Labyrinth after her death
+1 For the mirror puzzle, choose the Ripe Apple
+1 Choose the Scarlet Egg door
-1 Let Maria take 50 points or more of damage
IN WATER
MAX - 15
DEFAULT - 2
MINIMUM - 1
+1 Examine Mary's letter and/or photo 3 or more times
+1 Stay at low health for at least 100 seconds (1.66667 minutes)
+1 Kill more than 350 enemies
+1 Stomp more than 30 enemies
+1 Choose the Man Coin
+1 Examine Angela's knife at least twice
+1 Do enough damage to Pyramid Head in his first fight (Unclear how much. Do too little and no increase towards this or Leave will occur)
+1 Read the message above the jukebox at Neely's bar
+1 During the prison gallow's puzzle, choose the poem that represents Eddie or Angela
+1 For the Mirror Puzzle, pick the Rotten apple
+1 Kill all 3 defenseless monsters in the Otherworld Hotel
+1 Choose the Rust-Colored Egg door
+1 Listen to the entire conversation in the hallway before the final boss
-1 Get corrected going the wrong direction by Maria at least 7 times
So first off, it's more difficult to get Maria as it's maximum is notably lower than Leave and In Water. There is a ton of overlapping points with Leave and In Water, which can make it tricky to target a specific one if you don't know exactly what to do. I've seen plenty of people in here get stuck getting one while trying to go for the other.
Credit to JokieW for details on the OG. You can see his original finding and additional info here: https://github.com/JokieW/SilentHill2Endings/blob/master/README.md
Remake info comes from Silent Hill Memories, which you can see here: https://www.silenthillmemories.net/sh2_remake/endings_en.htm
Let me know if this helps and if there are any clarifications or corrections that should be made!
I forgot to use the woman coin for the last part of the coin puzzle, and I've been keeping myself damaged so it'd be easier to trigger the "in water" ending without having to do a third playthrough (I got "leave" on my first playthrough). I didn't know James health effected the Maria ending, I thought it was just for the other two original endings. As long as I do everything else correctly can I still get the Maria ending, or is that enough to screw it up?
Finally finished the remake and it was so awesome there were some dialog changes I wasn't a fan but still very good!
i am currently playing sh2 in pcsx2 and im wondering if its supposed to be this bright the shadows were buggy so idk
When I got this ending for the first time I liked its meaning and the refference to the first titles with the White Claudia and stuff, but yesterday I played it for the second time to show it to my brother, and I've realized how sad it is! At first I used to consider it just as a "bittersweet ending", but now it's "heartbreakingly bitter" instead, it gets me down... maybe I'm being more sensitive than usual as I'm going through a difficult time and that's why this ending is haunting me bad, but anyway, given the context of SH2 itself perhaps this is a good thing I guess 🫠🫠🫠
These are assets used in the cinema, top right looks like a drawing of James sleeping maybe?