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Do u guys feel that TV Jace is not cocky enough?

I mean, is like he's more shy or when he talk he's too silent, i don't feel the impact like i feel from movie and book Jace. Even tho Movie Jace is quite silent aswell, but i do feel the cockiness throught his expressions.

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2024/04/24
22:05 UTC

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Jaime Rosales and The Wicked Powers

I'm honestly so worried about what Cassandra Clare is going to do with Jaime for The Wicked Powers. I really really really don't want to see him in a love triangle with Dru and Ash (I've seen a lot of people speculate about this). The age gap between him and Dru is just too weird, I don't care how "old" she looks. 4 years doesn't sound like a lot and I know Dru will be around 16-17 in The Wicked Powers but it's definitely weird. I'm 22 and I could never see myself be romantically involved with a 16-17 years old. Ew. I guess the only way that I could see that ship "working" would be if Jaime got lost in Faerie ad stopped aging but I don't know, that storyline is too close to Mark's

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2024/04/24
18:05 UTC

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Help me find lost Pin from pintrest

The Pin I'm looking for is Malec and the picture is of Alec going through the box of Magnus' stuff but there is text that says something along the lines of "Whatever you do dont imagine Alec going on a dangerous mission and Magnus giving him the omamori charm". I'm desperate to read the whole pic, but when I clicked it pintrest crashed and now I can't find it again!

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2024/04/24
16:21 UTC

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Looking for help with a shadowhunter conversion of Savage worlds

I hope its ok I post this here. I am currently trying to make a shadowhunter savage worlds setting and am struggling to do it alone next to my studies. Right now I am stuck on the runes and am unsure how to do that but I haven't done much else yet. If anyone wants to help create something like this I would be open for it. This is my first savage World conversion.

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2024/04/23
17:15 UTC

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Jaime Rosales Faceclaim

Hi guys! Does anyone have any recommendations for face claims to use as Jaime? I've looked through some fancasts, but they all seem to ignore or overlook the fact that he's supposed to be a dark-skinned Mexican. I'm attaching his official description below for reference!

Jaime is tall and rangy, his months on the run making him even thinner. He has black hair, typically untidy, brown skin, brown eyes, and long, black lashes. Aside from his Marks, Jaime is also covered in tattoos. He has sharp features, a slightly big nose, and a wide mouth.

I want someone that fits him as closely as possible. Any help and suggestions would be highly appreciated, thank you!

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2024/04/23
14:41 UTC

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Rp

Just wondering if anyone was interested in playing these characters?

﹒Maia Roberts﹒we’re hoping to do a lily Chen/maia Robert’s plot with her!^^

﹒Magnus Bane﹒🔐(please be under 18)

﹒Aline Penhallow﹒

﹒Helen Blackthorn﹒

﹒Diego Rosales﹒(needed we have a Jaime!)

﹒Auraline Queendaughter﹒please we have a seelie queen and ash that want her!!(also we were hoping to ship her with Janus!)

﹒Divya Joshi﹒

﹒Gwyn Ap Nudd﹒We’re hoping to do a mom/dad thing with Diana and Gwyn lol the wild tda children and their parents !

﹒Diana Wrayburn﹒

It’s on instagram and it’s super cool and really fun ! La.institute is the account anyway mwah!^^

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2024/04/23
06:32 UTC

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largescale fanfic recs?

guys and like rly long fanfic recs?i recently read LBAF on AO3 and it hit hard. plus its literally as long as the wheel of time in terms of word count... any fics yall know that at least start off canon and focus on multiple characters instead of just ships?

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2024/04/22
14:16 UTC

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Shadowhunters roleplay probe

Hi! I'm sorry if this is the wrong subreddit to ask this(if it is, do let me know and I'll delete this immediately) but is there still an active 18+ book based shadowhunters roleplay community going, particularly on Instagram? I've been feeling very nostalgic for playing Magnus Bane, but I'm not sure if there's any activity going on within the fandom rn. Please do let me know!

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2024/04/22
07:12 UTC

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Essay!

Okay, so I know that the title is random, but I’m currently in university writing an essay about sexism, and I’m including Shadowhunters into it, given that I think that there’s stuff both in books and tv show that I could add into my essay.

My only issue is that I’m finding it a little hard to fully find a lot scenes to talk about as a collective whole (I have a handful so far) and I was wondering if there were any scenes within the tv show and books that touch on the sexism that exists?

(if this is something that isn’t allowed, please let me know and I’ll delete this post)

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2024/04/22
01:48 UTC

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Im laughing so hard

It must be the way it was written and worded that made me burst out laughing at this scene. 😭😭

2 Comments
2024/04/21
11:27 UTC

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Why did the sword react like that to jace?

I know jace has angel blood and that’s an angel sword but why?

1 Comment
2024/04/20
02:32 UTC

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got a new bookshelf, so my collection has a new home!

kind of insane how I just got this shelf and most of it is just my Shadowhunter Chronicles books haha

4 Comments
2024/04/20
01:41 UTC

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Sebastian question

“What he wants, Jace will do.”

We are all aware of Sebastian’s very, very incesty nature with Clary and Cassandra made it very clear that Sebastian desired her sexually.

So does this mean, whenever jace was ‘overconfident’ and slightly ‘pushy’ with Clary during his possession with Sebastian, it could of been Sebastian influencing him? I’m specifically talking about the city of lost souls club scene, where I think it’s most obvious.

“His smile was wicked. “You can tell me to stop whenever you want,” he said. “But you won’t.”  — City of Lost Souls, Cassandra Clare

Sebastian and Clary’s relationship starts to look a bit odd here (if we’re ignoring him as Sebastian Verlac kissing her). Sebastian just saw Clary slightly undressed in the scene before they set off to the club. We don’t know what Sebastian was thinking or even what he was thinking of DOING during this scene, but it was a tipping point for him. Especially when they were in the midst of partying, where Sebastain got lazy at hiding his feelings:

  1. “Then, who do you belong to?”Sebastian’s lips parted.

  2. “He put his hand under her chin and turned her face toward him.”

  3. “Go ahead.” Sebastian leaned back, his hands braced behind him on the fountain’s edge, his smile like the edge of a straight razor. “I don’t mind watching.”

After Clary and Sebastian’s conversation, Jace seems weirdly excited. Which isn’t weird of jace, but the nature of it was just off. The urgency of it was off. He’s doing stuff and saying stuff we’ve never seen him do before, which is rightfully so because he’s possessed and high, but it just wasn’t jace. It was Sebastian. Jace would of never taken advantage of Clary when she’s under the influence like she was. But sebastain would. We see him do it when he’s trying to trick her (and himself) that they’re ’the same’.

Sebastian was knowingly aware of the back marks clary inflicted on jace during this time frame. He would of known the moment it happened and why it happened, and Cassandra did this because she knows Sebastian would of been turned on by it. He was indirectly influencing Jace that entire scene because HE wanted to do that to Clary.

6 Comments
2024/04/19
21:42 UTC

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Clace

I love them 😍

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2024/04/19
17:30 UTC

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Current collection

26 Comments
2024/04/19
17:17 UTC

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Max/tavvy , Mina/rafael, Magnus model!

What’s the ship name for max/tavvy And Mina/rafael?

Also what’s a good model/fancasting for Magnus that isn’t harry shum jr?

8 Comments
2024/04/19
02:00 UTC

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Malec rpers? Or jemma?

Is anyone interested in playing Emma, Julian, Alec or magnus? Me and my friends are looking for people to rp with! Dm me if you’re interested!^^ (we need a ton of other friends too! So if you wanna rp dm me!^^)

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2024/04/18
14:41 UTC

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who i’d cast as tessa

adelaide kane as tessa gray would be perfect in my opinion

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2024/04/18
10:06 UTC

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Jace’s first mark

“Smoke rose from the Marks in black spirals and he smelled the choking scent of his own skin burning. His father stood over him with the stele, its tip gleaming red like the tip of a poker left too long in the fire. “Close your eyes, Jonathan,” he said. “Pain is only what you allow it to be.” But Jace’s hand curled in on itself, unwillingly, as if his skin were writhing, twisting to get away from the stele. He heard the snap as one bone in his hand broke, and then another…” — City of Ashes

This seems like Jace’s first marking experience but I think there was also something along the lines of brother enoch coming to Wayland Manor to do Jace’s first mark. In the comic and flashback above, it’s Valentine doing it, not brother Enoch. Does anyone have the confirmed situation?

Also, this seems really, really traumatic for a first marking. There are a lot of deaths and injuries et cetera when some characters are marked (Robert lightwood, Jesse, Adele starkweather). Traumatic first marks can be caused by putting it on infants. So like really young kids. but I also read somewhere in bonus material that Jace was somewhere around nine when he got his? Forgot. But around the ages of 10-12 is where any young shadowhunter usually gets their first runes.

So if Jace was around nine when he got his first marks and kids also get it around a year later, why- both in comic and city of ashes- was is so traumatising? Physically especially.

Jace has more angel blood in his system. Overall, he’s one of the ‘greatest’ shadowhunters ever. He’s great at all things shadowhunter. He has zero deflects and afflictions that would normally cause harm for a first rune, so WHY DID THIS HAPPEN?

if someone knows or can ask Cassandra please explain, it’s been bugging me for ages.

8 Comments
2024/04/18
05:50 UTC

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Movie detail

10+ yrs later and only I realized that in Pandemonium, Jace’s eyes turned gold for a few secs. Tell me I’m not delulu and didn’t just imagine this

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2024/04/17
13:19 UTC

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Simon

I'd like to share my boyfriend's idea of how a Simon story could be promoted. Imagine what it would be like if there was a brand new book dedicated to Simon that started from the moment he meets Magnus and Isabelle near St. Xavier (City of Heavenly Fire, Epilogue). They would tell him that the world is not as simple as it seems and that he is their lost friend. And the rest of the book would describe the events of the Chronicles of Shadowhunter Academy, while being diluted with descriptions of the actual events of Mortal Instruments.

6 Comments
2024/04/17
06:28 UTC

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Shadowhunters Roleplay Fam

Hi guys! I'm recruiting for a literate 18+ roleplay fam on Instagram. It's a dm-based and post-based roleplay, but it is non-exclusive so you can join without feeling too much pressure! We're just starting out so there's still a whole lot of empty spaces. If interested, please check out @la.institute on Instagram for availability lists!! Thank you :)

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2024/04/16
23:29 UTC

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Did Cassandra Clare not know what to do with Camille’s character?

It’s been years since I last read these books (and then it was only TMI 1-5, couldn’t finish CoHF, TID, and Lady midnight as I could not stay interested), but Camille was always one of the most interesting characters to me. I loved her introduction in Clockwork Angel and was excited to see her in TMI 4. But I feel like after book 4 CC didn’t really know what to do with her character. I know that she wasn’t THAT important to begin with, but I always felt like she had much more potential (powerful, ancient, always self-interested and mysterious, kind of like the Faerie Queen but more likable lmao).

I also never was sure of her stance on the Accords/the Law. I believe I read once that she was one of the original vampires who was in talks when the Accords were being proposed, and it seems in TID she didn’t really go along with everything that de Quincey did (although I believe she did murder her mortal lover in Moscow which confused me, unless she just got bored of him), but then in TMI she was accused of breaking the Law by murdering people (which she claims Raphael lied about but then Raphael said the same about her). Which I guess goes along with her personality of being mysterious by not knowing which side of a coin she truly played, but I feel like an ancient vampire like her would be more careful enough to know not to go around breaking the Accords law and especially allowed to be found out by people like Raphael. She always seemed to enjoy the finer things, which is why I was confused why she would’ve moved her vampires to the Hotel Dumont.

Did any of this stuff about her murdering people just for funs ever get explained in her other books?

I would’ve loved to see her character more

5 Comments
2024/04/16
19:41 UTC

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Anyone have a voyance rune tattooed on their hand? I’m thinking about getting one. I’d love to see some pictures of shadowhunter tattoos!

Show me what you’ve got!

8 Comments
2024/04/16
01:19 UTC

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Possibility of a Clace Baby

I’m not ashamed to admit it, but I think the possibility of a clary Fairchild and jace Herondale baby to be almost heartwarming and I’ll tell you why.

As a reader, I don’t necessarily work with the idea of a couple HAVING to have children and what not. It’s a lot like the ‘female character having to lose her powers’ at the end of a series trope (e.g Alina Starkov, Aelin Galathynius, Nesta Archeron). Babies at the end of a couple’s journey is considered too domestic and overall predictable to readers and therefore we would rather not have it and keep the couple’s independence. A child, of course, isn’t a solution or a means to an end. For any form of media in general, not just books.

But a baby would work into Jace and Clary’s narrative and I wouldn’t totally loathe the idea if it were to occur on Cassandra’s part. When I say it ‘works’ i just mean (and I know it sounds bad) it goes into that generational trauma theme we see in Clary and Jace.

Like a lot of abused kid’s narratives and definitely with a self-loathing ‘i hurt everyone I love’ Jace narrative, the possibility of raising a child would scare them. “What if I’m like Valentine?” could take a whole new meaning when we put it into parent hood. When this sounds bad, I’m really just saying i know using generational trauma for this plot line is slightly problematic, but author’s do use this scenario with pregnancy often and I think it works and makes it so much more interesting and effective.

Clary, like alot of fairchilds, is the mothering type. Definitely when she grew into an adult women, too. But that just means she’s a mother-hen, not mother material. Mothering type doesn’t necessarily have the means to add up to a good parent. But Cassandra could use it as a foreshadowing technique. Foreshadowing could’ve also occurred when Jace is holding Alec’s little baby for the first time.

“His golden head, his hair full of fluff and dirt from lying down on the floor dealing with crevices, was bowed over the baby, staring down into the baby’s solemn little face.” - born of endless night

In this scene also, Clary politely refuses to hold the baby. Which is fine, nothing against that. Clary doesn’t even WANT a baby at this time. This meaning of this post is that possibility In the future. It would be sad, in a happy kind of way, to see these first characters that were here from the start mature like that.

22 Comments
2024/04/15
22:46 UTC

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I think about this passage from Secrets of Blackthorn Hall weirdly often

I agree that skulls always add to the decor btw

2 Comments
2024/04/15
17:41 UTC

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Collector’s Editions

Is there anything unique about the City of Bones Collector’s Edition besides the cover? Thinking about getting either that one or the 10th Anniversary edition but idk what’s best yet!

2 Comments
2024/04/14
19:18 UTC

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Didn’t get kickstarter books

I’ve been a longtime fan but didn’t know about the kickstarter that ended a few months back. Feeling sad about not being able to get the stories offered and wanted to commiserate :( Anyone else in the same boat? 😭 Hoping someone sells them online after they get printed 😭😭😭

23 Comments
2024/04/14
18:03 UTC

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Does anyone else feel like COHF is just an ad for CC’s other shadowhunter books?

I’m rereading TMI books right now, but it’s the first time I’ve ever read City of Heavenly Fire. I can’t help but feel the second trilogy is super bloated, and that’s for a variety of reasons but one of the main ones is the insertion of Brother Jeremiah and Emma/Julian and their stupidly convoluted family. All these vague hints about the past trying (but failing) to get me interested in Jeremiah’s past and his thing for Tessa. Or how Emma and Julian are clearly gonna fall in love but they’re 10 year olds so I don’t care. It doesn’t feel like an organic part of the story, it just feels like an ad.

28 Comments
2024/04/14
15:13 UTC

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Queen of Air and Darkness ending

Is there a sequel to come? Cuz that ending was so open.

11 Comments
2024/04/13
23:43 UTC

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