Are u kidding me. My mouth literally dropped when I saw the credits roll. I cannot BELIEVE this is how it ends. Her in a white room with three fucking paintings, a bench and a book. What the fuck. And then there’s nick. Fuck this show

This show is worth watching by virtue of its impressive aesthetics. I really like the Modern-Victorian aesthetics, and I like what good viewing this makes during Autumn.

But let this be said: this is one of the worst shows I've ever seen.

I am repeatedly stricken by the protagonist-centred morality displayed in the show, and repeatedly taken aback by how the main character is so impulsive and never learns from any of her mistakes; as well as the horrific fates some characters are sentenced to, and then casually forgotten about by virtue of a teenager's focus on family and lovers.

Credit to Lachlan Watson, Michelle Gomez, and Kiernan Shipka, though. Not for nothing the latter is in the film 'Longlegs'.

If you guys want dark academia with autumn aesthetics done right, go no further than 'Wednesday'.

Protagonist-centred morality is taken about back and shot in the head, as Wednesday is repeatedly called out for her immoral and antisocial behaviour, including mauling a bully, her dispassionate treatment of her friends, as well as wanting to torture someone.

Actions have consequences, and this is infuriatingly averted in 'CAOS', but refreshingly played straight in 'Wednesday'.

Both shows are aesthetic porn that make for good re-watches, but only one of them is fit to be background noise only.

There has been some criticism of the series finale, and its later coda on Riverdale (s6 e4) where Sabrina reappears very much alive and explains that witches don’t really die. An article in Screen Rant https://screenrant.com/riverdale-sabrina-crossover-plotline-confused-2024-witches/ calls this retconning and finds it contradictory and confusing. I don’t agree.

Sabrina’s immortality isn’t particularly confusing; it’s immortality itself that’s confusing. Or rather, it’s not a simple concept. In our culture and in others, the distinction between mortals and immortals is fuzzy. Witness all those dying gods. Osiris. Christ. All the Norse gods at Ragnarok. Yet gods are called immortal to distinguish them from us, we mortals. But in Christian belief we live on after death, our souls, our consciousness lives on after death. In one place or the other, for eternity. The ancients believed our souls wandered in the underworld. So death isn’t the end. There’s a lot of wiggle room in the concept of immortality. Why shouldn’t CAOS take advantage of it?

It seems to me that the Screen Rant article is petty nitpicking, it’s obsessed with needless consistency in a matter that is inherently somewhat inconsistent. And it ignores how CAOS played out all along, with long dead witches being summoned and various resurrections from the grave (some went well, some badly). A Celestial being is killed, as is Lazarus, the resurrected man. It ignores the obvious parallels between Sabrina’s life journey and that of Christ- who died, rose, and will come again, as I recited in church every day when I was a wee tyke.

CAOS is having a bit of fun with the profound concept of immortality, as it did all along with other profound cultural concepts. Its deeply thought out whimsy is the main reason CAOS is perhaps Mr favorite series of all time.

My very first post here but having watched the 90s show and now watching the chilling adventures version I find I like them both to varying degrees.

What do other people here think?

I started watching CAOS as part of my spookie series watches in October and I just finished the last episode yesterday. I bawled my eyes out. I needed a fantasy, feminist, powerful, funny, scary show and this one DELIVERED. I am so depressed it’s over. I fear i won’t find a show as good, any recommendations on what to watch now?

Acabo de volver a ver la serie completa y con una atención más amplia a ciertos detalles y tengo una duda que no sé si la respuesta se me escapó o es un agujero argumental. En la termporada 3 cuando la tía Ze se encuentra con la revelación de Hécate tiene una visión de su muerte y ve a Sabrina adulta acompañándola en su final, pero al final de la serie Sabrina muere por lo que no llegará la vejez de sus tías. Esa visión que fue? En la tercera temporada se aborda como una vista al futuro sin embargo Sabrina muere. Dónde queda esa "premonición"

Just rewatched the entire 4 seasons again. I don't think I'll ever recover from this show. 2 years ago when I watched the last episode, I was disappointed and devestated they cancelled it. Now as I watch again, I think it was fitting. Yes alot of stones were left unflipped. Was happened to Lucifer and is Lilith still queen. Why didn't sabrina rise again after buried in her soil... Etc. Nevertheless I hope we would get a show like this again. Not a cringe, kid magic marvel wannabe where all they do is fight. Also I hope to find a Guy who loves me Like Nick does. One day.

48 minutes in, right after Sabrina closes the gate when king Herrod attacks, Betty and Kevin walk by! It’s a quick second and I missed it my first watch. It’s probably not the actors but it’s absolutely supposed to be them and I just wanted to tell someone this. That’s all, that’s my post 😂

I’m almost done with my first watch and am wondering how much time has passed between the first and last episode?

When Satanic Panic returns from hell and the massacre the Stone Philosophers.... why is it like not addressed at all? They kill what 4 people in an asbolute brutal way in the school and everyone is just there the next day like nothing happened at all? Season 4 goes off the rails quite a bit but this one bugged me for quite a bit.

Only thing I can find is that it's a Riverdale Easter Egg... but it seems like an odd way to go about it.

Pretty much what the title says and while yes she’s the main character it feels weird that the world simply stops and we don’t get to see much of how everyone else deals with it. This sparked my interest because another person in another thread told me there was a canceled spinoff of sorts called a world without Sabrina.

wtf was that ending? sabrina can’t say bye to zelda on zelda’s deathbed if sabrina’s dead. why did hecate just ghost them?? do we really not know what happens on prudence’s journey to scattering faustus’ body? why the hell is hell so unexplained???? after sabrina morningstar=sabrina spellman, the queen of hell didn’t really die, so why did lucifer take over and start calling spellman his false daughter? WHY WAS EVERYONE SO MEAN TO LILLITH??? WHAT EVEN HAPPENED TO LUCIFER AFTER LILLITH STARTED DRINKING HIS BLOOD??? please tell me that theres another form of media (comics, books, whatever) that fully explains this madness because the ending of the show is so dissatisfying and disappointing

I found information on what part 5 in the show would have been about, and he was (or still is I think) making into comic form. The director RAS stated, ""The scene that we shot and had to take out of the Netflix series with Zelda is the exact scene verbatim that's in the first issue of The Occult World of Sabrina, Aguirre-Sacasa shared elsewhere in the interview. "When we start that series, it's exactly as it ended in the Netflix series with Sabrina and Nick in the sweet hereafter and her family and friends in Greendale are trying to live in a world without Sabrina. In fact, that's the name of the first story arc: "World Without Sabrina." We'll see how her loved ones have been doing since Sabrina sacrificed herself. The first thing Zelda does is recruit a team of their family and friends to go into the underworld to bring Sabrina back to life". So what does this mean? Why do they only bring Sabrina back? And if Nick sacrificed himself (based on what the crossover said 😑🙄) then why wouldn’t she just come back immediately afterwards, why would they have to bring a full team of people to try to bring her back. And if he didn’t sacrifice himself and went to the hereafter to be with her in eternity, then why didn’t they bring her back either. Then does this happen before or after the riverdale cross over? And if this happens then how does the riverdale crossover EVEN ALIGN with this if Nick and Sabrina is stuck in the hereafter together, that wouldn’t mean it’s sacrifice since she didn’t go back up immediately when he arrives. So they should be able to bring back nick too, so will they? But it seems they didn’t because of riverdale.

CROSSOVER CONFUSION; In the end of CAOS, nick says he died swimming in the sea is Sadie’s, wicked undertow. Then he says that he did it to be with her for the rest of eternity. WHY would he lie to her, saying they’re going to be together for an eternity down there, if he sacrificed himself? Maybe not to upset her, but that wouldn’t make any sense either because Sabrina would be leaving the hereafter IMMEDIATELY anyway if had taken her spot, like as in poof back in body.

ITS SO CONFUSING! At this point until or if the part 5 book comes out I may just ignore the crossover entirely since I think they did to originally give the show another season in another platform or smth but that never happened

Either way if we look at it in the CAOS part 4 ending, they end up together in eternity. If we look at crossover, witches aren’t immortal and even though Sabrina is needed she isn’t immortal either, so she would have to one day die from witch old age like we see Hilda does in the far future (even if it takes centuries) so they would still end up together in the hereafter but just centuries later. And if we look at the part 5 comic book plot, they may bring Nick back so they would be together in reality or they may bring Sabrina back (they never mentioned both of them, so let’s say she comes back alone) like the sum up and she would be reunited with him centuries later when she dies. But either way, COULDNT THEY HAVE STUCK WITH ONE ENDING, NOT CREATE 3 AND CONFUSE US ALL?? 

What’s your thoughts and theories? (Also the quote I found from RAS was from an interview when he released in the end of 2021 about the occult world of Sabrina comic book is happening (he never gave a release date, so for now we don’t know if it’s cancelled or if it will still happen but it’s taking longer than expected) .

I personally wish I never watched the riverdale crossover. In the end of the show he tells her that they’ll be together for eternity, why would he say that if she’s leaving the hereafter ASAP since he supposedly took her place? And your telling me, after 4 WHOLE SEASONS, of pairing up Nabrina, and them going through hell and back just to be together, doesn’t even get to be together in the hereafter?!

AND In the CAOS series it said witches does die but after centuries later, then in the crossover sabrina said witches don’t die but transform into something else?!

And after EVERYTHING, your telling me, EVEN with Sabrina studying necromancy, that they NEVER found a way to get Nick BACK?!

So questions: Does sabrina eventually die (from witch old age, like we saw Hilda dying) and see Nick again, or do they not end up in the hereafter or not die at all?

Should I ignore the riverdale crossover, what are your thoughts on the whole thing?

Do you think Sabrina eventually found a way to bring Nick back? Why would she focus on death magic and necromancy if she’s not trying to bring him back yk.

And the Sabrina that spent all 4 seasons trying to bring him back after every time he died for her, just gives up FULLY in the end?! Even though her primary is necromancy?!

And because of Sabrina being the queen of hell, as said in riverdale (hate that crossover so much omg), is she not able to die and not go to the hereafter from witch old age? But she isn’t a witch either since she’s half angel or whatever?

And lastly, do you think Nabrina does end up together, either in the hereafter or in life if she managed to bring him back (since she’s all powerful and the queen of hell now supposedly?)

In CAOS, nick said that he died in order to be with her for eternity, but then In riverdale it’s revealed that he sacrificed himself so she’s alive but he’s dead. In CAOS it’s said that witches die centuries later but in riverdale sabrina said that witches doesn’t actually die. So does Nabrina never end up together? And does Sabrina ever move on from Nick???

In CAOS, nick said that he died in order to be with her for eternity, but then In riverdale it’s revealed that he sacrificed himself so she’s alive but he’s dead. In CAOS it’s said that witches die centuries later but in riverdale sabrina said that witches doesn’t actually die. So does Nabrina never end up together? And does Sabrina ever move on from Nick???

Watching it for the first time and she has a locket that is mother maiden crone and I think a son? I’m not that far yet that is called Nicholas scratch

I drew Sabrina, I thought this sub might enjoy!

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Watching the series for the second time, I am newly impressed with this episode (S4 E2). There are nice parallels with Sabrina feeling alone and unloved with the current eldritch terror, The uninvited, and his curse. It is of course an entirely disproportional parallel, a 16yo girl’s tristesse compared with a horror of cosmic significance, but that I think is exactly the point. It’s absurd, and it works, this stretching a parallel as far as it can be made to go. That’s something CAOS consistently does so well.

The actor who plays The Uninvited is excellent, there are subtleties I didn’t notice the first time around. The look of astounded disbelief on his filthy face when she asks him to marry her is brilliant. Much of his acting is of necessity silent and is wonderfully understated because he can’t say anything. Then in Hell, at the conclusion of the double wedding ceremony, when Lucifer Morningstar, announces the gentlemen may kiss their brides, a surpassingly fine scene as first Caliban and one Sabrina kiss, enthusiastically and happily. Then it’s the grimy odiferous Uninvited’s turn to kiss the other Sabrina. He looks uncertain and hesitant and yet can’t believe his luck. That’s lot to convey in a moment without saying anything, and yet the actor accomplishes it perfectly. Sabrina tries, not entirely successfully, to conceal her revulsion. Lucifer visibly cringes at the prospect, Lilith’s expression is deliciously inscrutable. This all takes mere seconds to play out but it is masterfully done by all involved. Including the wardrobe and makeup- the Uninvited’s appearance is absolutely revolting.

CAOS is truly one of my all time favorite television series. It may even replace Firefly as best-ever. It is truly flawless and it certainly rewards repeated viewing.

I would choose Ambrose not only because he is hot and muscular but also because he is my favorite character.

Ngl,the show isnt as peak as it was in first 2 seasons but im still enjoying it,I wonder how this contest between Brina and Caliban will go but so far i like it.

That's it. That's the post. Theo/Robin is my favourite pairing by far is CAOS. Not exactly sure why but I don't care why.

Horror writer Algernon Blackwood was a contemporary of H.P. Lovecraft and like the author of the Cthulhu stories was an influence on CAOS. I have more than a suspicion that Faustus Blackwood is his namesake. Algernon is a fine writer, a master of spooky atmosphere, of creating the feeling that all is not quite right; he is far more subtle than Lovecraft. Algernon Blackwood’s best known stories are The Wendigo and The Willows. His works are available online as free downloads online and are perfect Halloween reads.

Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa, creator of CAOS, really knows his sources. There’s a lot of background to the episodes in this series, especially when it gets into the Eldritch Terrors (“eldritch” is a word H.P. Lovecraft virtually owns).