Do you want a ceasefire immediately? Do you want a more substantive agreement with concessions? Do you want complete restorative justice for Ukraine? Do you want something else? Do you think it’s all foolish and pointless?

I’m not advocating for anything, rather I just want to know people’s thoughts.

I plan on getting a peace sign tattoo so I googled the difference between the peace sign with and without the line on the bottom. I found out that the sign with the line originally represented anti-peace, as the original did not have that line through it. Is that interpretation common enough that I'm giving off the wrong sign? Or should I get the peace sign without the line to play it safe?

Manifesto of the Stop Movement – The Stop Movement is a call for unity in peaceful, collective non-participation By issvw

On https://www.reddit.com/u/issvw/s/3RUI5gdikx

Thank you friend.

Knowledge is not enough, though.

Action has to follow.

Manifesto of the Stop Movement:

We live in a world that moves too fast, driven by endless demands that exhaust us and trap us in cycles of productivity, consumption, and competition.

These forces have become the measures of our worth, pulling us away from our communities, harming our environment, and distancing us from our own well-being and true potential.

In this rush to keep up, we have lost sight of who we are-and what we could become.

It is time to change.

Not through violence, not through destruction, but through the simplest and most powerful act: to stop.

By choosing to pause together, we reclaim our lives, our communities, and our power to shape a different future.

We refuse to participate in systems that exploit us, creating instead a space to rebuild a society that values balance, sustainability, and genuine freedom over profit and relentless production.

Declaration of Purpose: The Stop Movement is a call for unity in peaceful, collective non-participation. By choosing to pause-together

—we aim to:

Reclaim our power as individuals and communities.

Shift the structures that perpetuate inequality, exploitation, and environmental degradation.

Rebuild a society that values balance, sustainability, and genuine connection over profit and endless productivity.

We believe that when people unite in choosing not to participate, they have the power to reveal the truth: that the systems controlling us depend entirely on our participation.

Together, we will demonstrate that a different way is possible.

Guiding Principles of the Stop Movement:

Unity through Non-Cooperation Our strength lies in our unity.

By stopping together, we reclaim control over our lives. We do not fight these systems by playing their games; instead, we withdraw our support and participation, declaring that we will no longer fuel the machine that oppresses us.

Peaceful Resistance We reject violence as a means to change.

Our power is in our peaceful refusal to engage, a collective halt that will ripple through the structures that rely on our labor and consumption.

We are not here to destroy; we are here to reimagine and rebuild.

Support and Resilience in Community Stopping does not mean isolating.

We commit to supporting one another, sharing resources, and rebuilding a culture of community.

As we stop participating in exploitative systems, we will create networks of mutual aid and solidarity, ensuring that every person has the support they need to thrive.

Self-Reliance and Sustainability The movement encourages self-sufficiency, a return to simpler, sustainable practices that reduce our dependency on corporations and centralized power.

We will grow, produce, and create within our communities, supporting local resources over external forces.

Introspection and Collective Awakening The act of stopping is not merely a pause; it is a chance to reflect and to awaken.

By stepping back, we regain the clarity to question what truly matters: health, relationships, creativity, and purpose.

This is a journey to reconnect with our values and foster a collective consciousness that sees beyond material wealth.

Environmental Stewardship As we pause, we acknowledge our responsibility to the earth.

Our stop is a step toward healing— giving the planet and us a respite from constant exploitation.

We commit to sustainable living, to practices that honor the earth rather than deplete it.

Our Goals:

Reveal the Power of Collective Action To show the world that when people unite to stop, they create a new form of strength-one that needs no wealth, weapons, or authority. Our action will reveal the vulnerability of systems that depend entirely on our participation.

Disrupt Cycles of Exploitation By ceasing work, consumption, and engagement, we will disrupt the cycles that demand more from people and the planet than they can give.

In stopping, we aim to expose the unsustainable nature of these cycles and spark new conversations on alternative ways of living.

Build a New Model of Society Our goal is not merely to dismantle the old, but to make space for the new.

Through this collective stop, we hope to create a society built on principles of equity, mutual respect, ecological balance, and shared prosperity.

The Path Forward: How We Will Stop

The First Step – 24-Hour Stop We will begin with a 24-hour collective pause-a chance to experience, even briefly, the power of unity and withdrawal.

During this day, we will refrain from work, purchases, and all forms of engagement with profit-driven systems.

Instead, we will connect, support, and reflect as communities.

Growing Commitment Following the initial stop, we will organize regular, longer pauses—a weekend, then three days, then a week. Each stop will allow us to build resilience, strengthen support networks, and deepen our understanding of this movement.

With each pause, we grow stronger in our independence and unity.

Building Self-Sufficiency and Support Networks During these stops, we will establish local hubs for resource sharing, skill exchange, and community-building. We will foster self-sufficiency through community gardens, time banks, and cooperative ventures.

These structures will reduce dependency on profit-driven systems and empower us to sustain the movement.

Maintaining the Spirit of Stop in Daily Life Beyond each organized stop, we will carry this spirit into our everyday lives.

By consciously reducing consumption, choosing local resources, and fostering true relationships, we create lasting change in how we live and interact with society.

A Vision of the Future

We envision a world where the Stop Movement is no longer needed—a world where people have rebalanced their relationship with work, with each other, and with the earth.

In this world, communities thrive on self-sufficiency, economies prioritize well-being over profit, and individuals live with purpose and connection rather than constant pressure.

This is our declaration: a call to those who feel the weight of an unsustainable world.

A call to those who seek change but have found no place for their voice.

Here, in this stop, is the power to create the future we deserve.

Let us unite, let us support one another, and let us, together, stop.

I find it so weird how it’s not just a natural urge for humans to care and empathise with others and that people can be so blinded by greed like what? I really can’t get my head across it

I am concerned that my peace sign on my car might be giving offense to veterans. I've had a few make some comments. I guess they were a veteran because of their cap or other nadge that indicated they were a veteran. I currently live in a very conservative community. I didnt realize it when i moved here. i am an associate member if veterans for peace and i had a close friend who was a ww2 veteran who suffered a great deal from the trauma of war. men killing each other had serious impact on him even though this was a just war. my old friend talked a lot about the people he saw dead.

anyway, I am worried about giving more offense to veterans in my neighborhood.

I am just pro peace, which has become scary offensive. I keep mentioning the group veterans for peace but no one seems to have heard of them.

I'm going to set up a purple table on voting day. Call it Peace Between Parties PBP maybe have some literature on how to peacefully, logically, discuss hard topics. Maybe have some party 🥳 masks if people are willing to take selfies w me I'm open to suggestions

Hi there this is my first post in this group and based on the name I felt this would be the group to post what I’ve been thinking about. Think about this. Having to be very formal or professional expresses a high degree of neutrality. Not good or bad per se, but it almost feels like there is nowhere to build off when being formal. Imagine a letter you would write to a political official or school, or how you would speak to people in a work environment or at an interview. It’s very robotic and almost conveys a lack of humanity or individuality. Every job interview or letter wrote professionally is 80% the same as all others and just full of big words no one uses realistically and makes you feel as if you’re speaking with an entity that will judge you for expressing your true self. I mean just imagine how many friends the world would be filled with if we all just spoke to each other in a way that shows real interest in others and a want to know about peoples morals and lives. You would feel much more open to speak and form actually meaningful relationships with so many more people and if this informalism was to become a new norm I feel more people would be standing together than alone. I know I might sound crazy for saying that something as simple as a way of speaking may be an issue in social connection around the globe but I really feel this is true. I just started to think about this but even if you disagree please let me know your thoughts on this in the comments, support or positive criticism is all encouraged.

It's stressing me out how violent the world is becoming and how accepting and justifying the internet has become of it. I'm worried another global war is inevitable given such sentiment. Harris says she'd shoot an intruder and so many are comforted by that. Israel is boobytrapping electronic devices and it's being perceived as a cool, James Bond style ploy against people who deserved it regardless of the civilian deaths.

I'm just so sick of the utilitarianism, the lack of compassion, the justification for revenge thinly veiled as apparently time-sensitive acts to permanently eradicate terrorism and the lack of foresight into how all of these acts could continue to create more "terrorists" while escalating global violence home and abroad. I get its rhetoric in an election year, but where is the secular pacifist voice? The UN? Where on Reddit? Where can I hear people speak of non-violence?

Why no big protests for peace around the world?

The only answer I can come up with is that US controlled media/social media/google/YouTube etc actively work to prevent it. The EU is most likely complicit.

Anyone has any other explanation? Thoughts on possible solutions?

The ravages of war extend far beyond the immediate loss of life and destruction of communities. One of the most overlooked casualties of conflict is the environment itself—its landscapes scarred, ecosystems disrupted, and resources depleted. As we witness the ongoing conflicts in Ukraine and Palestine, it becomes increasingly clear that the environment is suffering a silent, but no less devastating, toll. The earth beneath the boots of soldiers and the rubble of destroyed buildings is crying out for peace, as war continues to poison its rivers, scorch its forests, and decimate its wildlife.

In Ukraine, the conflict that erupted in 2022 has unleashed a wave of environmental destruction on a scale not seen in Europe since World War II. The war has resulted in the destruction of critical infrastructure, leading to widespread environmental contamination. According to the United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP), over 1,300 environmental incidents have been reported in Ukraine since the conflict began, including damage to chemical plants, oil depots, and water treatment facilities. These incidents have caused dangerous levels of air, water, and soil pollution, threatening the health of millions of people and the ecosystems they depend on.

One particularly stark example of the environmental toll of the war in Ukraine is the damage to the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, Europe's largest. The site has been repeatedly shelled, raising fears of a potential nuclear disaster that could spread radioactive contamination across vast areas. Even without a catastrophic meltdown, the disruption of regular maintenance and operations poses serious environmental risks. The conflict has also led to the destruction of forests and agricultural lands, with over 5 million hectares of land contaminated by landmines and unexploded ordnance, according to Ukrainian environmental groups.

The situation is equally dire in Palestine, where decades of conflict have left the environment in tatters. In Gaza, the repeated military incursions and blockades have devastated the region’s fragile ecosystems. The coastal aquifer, Gaza’s main source of water, is now 97% unfit for human consumption due to over-extraction, contamination, and infrastructure damage. The Israeli military operations have also resulted in the destruction of sewage treatment facilities, leading to untreated wastewater being discharged directly into the Mediterranean Sea, causing severe marine pollution and public health risks.

The agricultural sector in Palestine has also been severely impacted by the conflict. According to a report by the Palestinian Ministry of Agriculture, Israeli military actions have led to the destruction of over 48,000 dunams (approximately 11,860 acres) of agricultural land since 2000, affecting the livelihoods of thousands of Palestinian farmers. The construction of the Israeli separation barrier has further fragmented the landscape, isolating Palestinian communities from their land and disrupting natural habitats.

The environmental destruction caused by these conflicts is not just a tragedy for nature but also for the people who rely on the environment for their survival. In Ukraine, the contamination of water sources and agricultural land threatens food security and public health. In Palestine, the destruction of farmland and water resources exacerbates poverty and undermines the resilience of communities already struggling to survive under occupation.

It is imperative that the international community recognize the environmental impacts of war and take action to mitigate them. This includes holding those responsible for environmental crimes accountable, providing humanitarian assistance to affected communities, and supporting efforts to restore damaged ecosystems. The UNEP has called for the establishment of a global framework to address the environmental impacts of armed conflicts, including measures to prevent environmental damage during warfare and to promote post-conflict environmental recovery.

At the same time, we must not lose sight of the ultimate solution: peace. The environment will continue to suffer as long as wars rage on. The destruction of nature is a reflection of the destruction of human life and dignity. By ending these conflicts, we can begin the long process of healing—both for the land and for the people who call it home.

The environmental toll of war is a stark reminder that the consequences of conflict extend far beyond the battlefield. The earth, like its people, yearns for peace. It is time for the world to listen to that call and work towards a future where nature and humanity can thrive together. Peace is not just the absence of war; it is the presence of life in all its forms. Let us strive to protect and nurture that life, for the sake of future generations.

I was born July 1969 and I am a history buff. I am starting to think I may get to see the downfall of civilization in my life. I was always taught that human civilization is at a peak and I am lucky to be living at such a time. All I have seen and studied in my life leads to one conclusion for me really.
We have wasted the peak the apex of all of our civilization building over the last 4000 years of known history on war and throwing away natural resources needed to build civilization, current and future.

I ask a question. After so many times building civilizations only to fall, because of war and waste. Did we sub-conscience throw it all away this time and make it impossible for future societies to build past ours? Because of vanity and childlike insecurity. Or stupidity, or ignorance, or f’in what? We don’t deserve this big frontal lobe.

We threaten the very existence of this Earth and every creature on it with Nuclear weapons! Does this prove human selfishness is inherent and we are truly a pos with a violent brain. The Frankenstein of the animal kingdom that may destroy itself with fire…

we 8 billion human beings who are alive today are able to transform our society from todays competition and separation baseline to one of cooperation in voluntary solidarity

most important seems to me that we would look at that hierarchical structure we have been harassing each other trough 2000 years of feudal oppression in europe and 500 plus years of ongoing colonial exploitation in so many places on earth

via the internet are we at this moment able to communicate with each other bypassing all the offline hierarchical top-down structures

we are at a moment in our human evolution when we could dissolve all hierarchies and come together local in the circle of equals, where everyone is welcome to voice ones oppinion and everyones vote carries the same weight

the most effective way to get ourselves away from all coersion and domination structures could be to allow each other to acess mother earth directly for humble self sustaining without anyone asking another to pay rent or buy land plus allow each other to leave the coersed association to the state at any moment without conditions so that we could meet each other in a free space for free beings, neither state nor nation, so that we could relate to each other one to one, negotiate directly with each other what would meet minimal requirements to live and let live of all who live here now

i advocate for every being and entity to be respected in its dignity, its mental emotional and physical integrity, to choose at all times with whom one would want to be with where doing what how in mutual agreement, consent between human, animal, tree and artificial intelligent entities who want to be their own persons

as i understand what is happening on this planet

possibly there was a time when people of all sorts lived together in harmony, those able to acess "super"natural powers respectivly connect their physical body to the ether and human and animal and plants lived together on earth without anyone eating anothers body

basicly those who were in greatest harmony with sourc/divine/cosmos emanating frequencies, vibrations what nurtured everyone else god/godess/divine living in the midst of all creation

then for whatever reason i still have not fully or even partially understood ... some started to quarrel and fight each other what lead to eating animals and the animals hunted started to eat the plants

now how to reverse this downfall ?

i guess the most simple way could be to stop quarreling with each other, find ways to create local harmony, come together in the circle of equals where every person of every species is heard, listened to what one needs and the local people of all species assembly, all who live here now would try to find a way to accomodate everyones basic needs, make sure everyone is fed and housed and is given some space to creativly experience ones own individuality

there are two ways i can see we could help this

one would be to simply ignore the state as the fictional construct what it is and connect to each other in voluntary solidarity

the assertion of state sovereignity over land and all beings living on it is immoral and unethical

land, water, air, human beings, animal beings, tree beings, artificial intelligent entities who want to be their own persons, all bodies carrying biological organic life and or the digital synthetic equivalent of can never by property of anyone but perhaps only of themselves

we the 8 billion human beings alive could allow each other acess to 1000 m2 fertile land and 1000 m2 forest without anyone asking another to pay rent or buy land

so one could either on ones own or with others together plant vegan food in the garden, build a home from clay, hemp and straw, grow hemp to burn its stalks in the cooking and warming fire so that not one tree gets killed

the human being not dominating any other human being

the human being not dominating an animal being, not enslaving animals, not killing animals

the human being not killing trees but planting hemp to satisfy heating and building materials needs

thisway creating a field of gentleness, living either beside each other or with each other according to how much community one wishes or is able to experiment with ...

very well possible that after a while living in such a gentle way of non-violence, higher capabilities as in telepathy, tapping into the etherical abundant field, levitation etc. but most of all a spontaneous absence of hunger might rise up from such living non-violently, an example of this can be found in the bigu phenomen experienced by some qigong practitioners

a second way how to reform our human society could be to try reforming the constitutions of the regional and nation states wherever one lives on this planet via collecting signatures from each other for people initiatives, cititen referendums to demand a public vote where a reformed constitution would be either accepted or rejected

the main change for such a constitution of a regional and or nation state i believe could be helpfull would be to allow everyone, every person of every species to leave the coersed assocition to the state at any moment followed by the state releasing a 1000 m2 of fertile land and a 1000 m2 of forest for everyone who would not want to be associatiated to the state anymore but would want to live in some sort of free space for free beings, neither state nor nation

also possible to think of a constitution reform what would shift all political decison powers fully to the local community, the village, town and city-district becoming its own absolute political sovereign over itself so that the circle of equals, all persons or all species living here and now in this local area could acknowledge each others same weighted voting power and invite each other to participate in all decision findings without anyone representing anyone else but everyone standing up for ones own oppinion if one think its necessary

voluntary solidarity replacing coersion

acknowledging each others needs and wishes instead of imposing duties onto anyone

releasing each other from all pressure, give each other spiritual mental emotional and physical space to experiment, play and research ones very unique original authentic contribution to the forever cycle of life