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Trusted online shops?

I’m new at starting paganism, and I’ve been trying to take care about the items I buy for my altars. For context, I’m trying to work with Loki and Dionysus (I’ve been praying to them, trying to establish a connection while I look into altars, and I think Dionysus has been giving me a lot of signs. So I want to try and get his altar up soon!), but I don’t have a shop nearby for me to easily get to.

I was wondering if there was any online stores I could buy from that are trusted? I don’t want to accidentally buy something and have it been made poorly or not sourced correctly! Any suggestions will be wildly appreciated.

2 Comments
2024/04/06
18:47 UTC

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Unknown Goddess

Hi, So I’m new to polytheism but I have a few questions because I prayed to a goddess (which I believe exists and is my other half) and that goddess is connected to me somehow and I got a clear sign: I was just wondering if it’s possible if a goddess could be in a union with a human.

2 Comments
2024/04/06
17:47 UTC

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What made you become Pagan?

What made you become pagan? What was it that drew you to your path? Feel free to share your experience if you’d like!~ I, personally, am an ex-christian and became a pagan because I found so much more meaning and freedom in paganism, instead of fear and confusion, and I much prefer nature as my temple than any church building. I’ve learned more from it than I ever did from a pastor.

33 Comments
2024/04/06
06:31 UTC

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Spirits of pets

A while back I read in a book that animals (mainly pets) don't have souls because they're not "self-conscious" like us. I didn't like that, and simply refused to believe such a thing. In recent years, I've seen people discuss the topic that our pets DO have souls and interlink with us so, so I ask you, do they? What are your thoughts on it? I simply cannot fathom going to the afterlife and not having my babies with me. That'd be the worst fate.

14 Comments
2024/04/05
18:57 UTC

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Questions about Altars

I'm thinking about creating an altar. I have two questions:

  1. I'm bad at drawing faces and bodies. Can i draw a symbol associated with a deity instead of the deity themselves?
  2. I don't really know how to carve things into wood either, so can i just use sharpie or pencil to design the altar?

Thank you.

7 Comments
2024/04/05
16:12 UTC

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quick question 🩷

has anybody got tips on interpreting tarot and pendulum divination to communicate with deities? i have both a tarot deck and a pendulum but dont know how to start or 'decode' the meanings i guess i could say :)

3 Comments
2024/04/05
02:51 UTC

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Help Needed, Witch in broom closet

Too add a bit of explanation, I personally am Hellenic, I already do some deity work and my patron god is Hades, my family is extremely Christian and 100% most definitely does not support, I'm seeking help in ways to very discreetly practice and have already been doing tons of research, I'm also open to any suggestions, and don't mind sharing experiences and any ideas others might wish to share, Thank you so much to anyone who reads this

4 Comments
2024/04/04
05:14 UTC

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Is there a more fluid deity?

I'm an agnostic theist. Meaning I believe there's someone or multiple someone's. I just don't know who. Is there a deity or deities that are more fluid? Less like humans and more like energy?

20 Comments
2024/04/04
02:06 UTC

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House deities, Nisser, Tomte, Tompte Gudhi etc.

We live on a homestead in rural Denmark and over the last year we've had many talks.

One of our talks were about Nisser and their connection to ancient pagan practices and how they were worshipped as either lesser house deities, ancestors or somewhere in between the two.

I've been trying, for a while now, to get an understanding in how "summon" one if it's even possible.

Is there anybody here that has knowledge on this subject or experiences with these ancient spirits and practices ?

1 Comment
2024/04/03
20:07 UTC

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Information on how to work with Mayan Gods/Practices ?

Hello everyone! Just wondering if there were any resources I can find to practice Mayan workings with gods such as offerings, rituals, honoring/working, and just about anything Mayan related on a metaphysical level. Been trying to get back into my roots, family isn’t much help since they’re into Catholicism (which isn’t an issue but that just isn’t my path I want to follow) but I was wondering if anyone can lead me directions on where I can get started to learn about this.

2 Comments
2024/04/03
19:41 UTC

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Pagan Symbols

Hi all, I am doing a research project on the spread and demonization of Paganism, the central focus is on how certain artifact’s meanings have been skewed to seem evil, or artifacts and symbols that have been adopted by other religions over time. I am struggling to find resources so if anyone would be able to recommend some or provide information or specific artifacts/symbols I would greatly appreciate it.

Thank you so much!

(Note: I myself am pagan but am somewhat new to it)

19 Comments
2024/04/03
15:10 UTC

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Dual Pantheon Paganism

I'm looking for advice on working with two pantheons and I'm hoping this rambling question makes sense. I've been a devotee to Hekate for many years and also work with Odin, Loki, Freyja and Hel from the Norse pantheon. I've never had any problems, however, Peresephone recently came forward and I'm just wondering how to fit her in without stepping on any toes. Hekate and Persephone obviously work together no problem, but I'm wondering about Hel. With Hekate, Persephone and Hel all being connected to the dead and under world(s) in different ways, what would be the most respectful way of looking at their specific roles.

3 Comments
2024/04/03
03:59 UTC

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The Coming of Persephone - Homerus_theHellenic

Days to days;

Life upon death;

Resurgence to become rebirth.

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Fair equinox lead to spring.

Mother and daughter reunite.

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A maiden born from the earth;

An angel released from hell’s grasp.

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Choruses sing praise.

Youth restores;

The kinder’s season.

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Maidens deliver flowers;

Fresh blood upon the fields.

Fire engulfs youths’ hearts,

It burns for a night tide,

Time kept by torchlight.

Secrets are made, but never told.

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Sing great sages,

Your warnings for lovers new,

And hear no heedings.

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The dark days are over.

Caution belongs to wind and rain.

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Golden light own the days.

Bright moons take the night.

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The dark days are over.

The cold days banished away.

The Dual Goddess reigns;

And, all the world is well.

4 Comments
2024/04/02
19:24 UTC

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Ex catholic/Christian pagans, did you ever doubt your new faith? Were you ever worried about praying again?

I was raised catholic, taken to a Catholic school for my whole childhood/teen years. I recently have been getting into paganism (I've asked alot of questions on here). Recently I've been feeling really doubtful of my beliefs as I usually get minimal signs and it's harder for me to meditate, pray, and do shadow work. I have wanted to work with my deity's (dionysus, Aphrodite, and heista) but none of them have given me any signs since I started leaving offerings and making altars. Based on previous events in my life I need constant reassurance and I'm just not getting that at all these days, so is it normal to be this concerned? How did it feel for you getting back into prayer?

9 Comments
2024/04/02
10:57 UTC

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Who are your Deities?

I mainly feel connected to deities of Europe specifically Njord, The Dagda and The Morrigan (I have an affinity for crows and ravens but have never been pulled to Odin). I've never really been pulled to the Greek or Roman pantheon for some reason.

Out of curiosity who are your Deities and what drew you to them?

66 Comments
2024/04/02
00:15 UTC

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Do you have a "tribe" of fellow practitioners, and how to get one?

I've been practicing alone for too long and I feel maybe I should at least ask here.
Is it normal to practice all alone and to tell noone and to keep it just between you ad your gods/spirits?
can you plaese share stories of your practice - how much other people are included into it?

I just feel horribly lonely and I'd like to be able to share what I see and do and think and what happens

18 Comments
2024/04/01
16:03 UTC

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2 Comments
2024/04/01
11:15 UTC

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First Altar Experience

Does anybody else feel like the first steps of building their altar was enormous? I feel like the effort it took to create was important. It felt like I was exploring my feelings in every choice. I have decided to add only things that feel right in the moment. Especially things I’ve done myself that I’m proud of. How do you feel about your altars and sacred spaces? How have you achieved that calm feeling in yours?

10 Comments
2024/04/01
02:22 UTC

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Reconstructionist southern German paganism- Norse or Celtic/Gaulish

Would the far southern area of Germany have been Norse pagan or Celtic/Gaulish pagan? The vast majority of my ancestors come from the Bavaria region of Germany and Switzerland... And I'm not sure what their practice would more likely have lined up with? It feels like that area of the continent is at a crossroads. Anyone who can weigh in?

10 Comments
2024/03/31
20:31 UTC

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Devotee?

Hi! I was wondering what does devotee mean somebody said it means to only worship one of the gods and another said they are an Apollo, Dionysus and Athena devotee so I’m not sure what the word means? Help is appreciated! :)

6 Comments
2024/03/31
19:18 UTC

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Need Help Finding Funeral Rites or Memorial Practices for Worshippers of Isis

I should start saying I'm not personally a pagan so I don't know much about practices but I.. I had a friend who recently passed who was a worshipper of Isis.. we talked about it and they told me we could talk about it more once they were doing a bit better since they were in a downswing which would happen.. but.. they.. they didn't.. get better before we could talk.. it wasn't a shock.. since when we met she was terminally ill and had been for a long while but.. I miss her. She was a good person who had a positive effect on me and everyone I know that knew her's life to my knowledge. I want to know the proper way to attempt to honor her. She deserves that at minimum.

Sorry that this post is morbid but I couldn't find funeral rites for worshippers of Isis in specific, just general Egyptian funeral rites and I.. I don't want to get this wrong. She deserves better than that. If I find anything specific that I can verify as true I'll edit the post with the rites and link to the source so others can find them.

Sorry if this post doesn't follow guidelines, I tried my best to follow them but to be honest I'm crying my eyes out currently so it was hard to read them.

EDIT: Thankfully the user butwhyyy2112 was able to provide a link to a resource request form and more information about the worship of Isis in the comments, if you have an interest or need to know more I'd check it, the link to the resource they provided is here by Laurent Bricault

6 Comments
2024/03/31
11:20 UTC

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Questions about meditation.

Those who meditate in order to interact with deities, how do you do it? How long do you meditate for? What kind of meditation?

3 Comments
2024/03/31
10:46 UTC

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Starting Out: A mature (read: old guy/middle-aged) perspective.

Good evening! I see a lot of questions/posts here that could benefit from an older/mature/experienced perspective, I hope this doesn't come off as arrogant, I genuinely want to alleviate some of the "worries" that newer practitioners have, give some general community advice, and offer a perspective some folks might be missing.

Background: I've been pagan or pagan-adjacent since I was in middle school and I'm staring down the pointy end of 40 this year. I've been happily married for 15 years, we have two children. If I had to label my family, I would say Germanic/Mainland European Heathen, but we incorporate elements of green witchcraft and other Indo-European derived beliefs into our practice. We are raising our children pagan, openly. I am currently a senior enlisted member of the U.S. Military, my wife works in the physical fitness field. If you saw us at the grocery store you'd probably assume we were any other middle class outdoorsy, but otherwise cookie cutter, family.

1.) You're not doing it wrong. Seriously. Paganism at its root is a deeply personal practice. Due to largely being an oral tradition and the erasure suffered during the Christianization of the world, none of us know what the correct practice is. Anyone that claims to know, or asks you to pay to know, is wrong. Full stop. We have some pretty good ideas what the practices of our spiritual ancestors looked like, but we don't begin to have the wealth of source material that some other faiths have. If what you're doing is working for you, keep doing it. If it's deepening your connection with the natural world, keep doing it. If it's deepening your relationship with your ancestors, keep doing it. If it's deepening your connection with your Gods, keep doing it. The scientific method is insanely useful to Paganism. Experiment, document, repeat/revise, and then move to the next hypothesis. Share what works for you with others, but don't assume that what works for others will work for you.

2.) Live your faith through your actions, don't scream it out into the world. You don't need to constantly advertise your faith. But, you should talk about your faith openly if/when the subject comes up. I see this come up in military Pagan spaces CONSTANTLY. The military is a politically DEEPLY RED career field, most of my co-workers are conservative or worse. I have had zero problems professionally or socially serving in the military over the last 18 years because I don't talk about my faith constantly at work. I have a couple tattoos that identify me as a pagan, to those in the know. I wear a Mjolnir pendant under my uniform. There is a small and tasteful statue of Tyr on my desk. We don't like it when Christians shout about their faith in public or the workplace, why should we act any different? That feeling that you get when someone has a large cross around their neck, talks about Jesus all the time, and has a bumper sticker implying that Hell is real is the same feeling that 98% of people get when you do the same thing from a Pagan perspective. I'm not telling anyone to "hide" their faith, I'm just saying to behave the same way that we expect from our Abrahamic brothers and sisters. Don't preach, don't proselytize, don't try to debunk their faith, or convert them to your faith. State who you are, what you believe, answer any questions, and move on with your day. If someone does try to preach at you, just walk away. If it's at work, make a complaint. We're not in the business of conversion or debate. Living your faith quietly through deeds, not words, is the best way to honor it.

3.) You are welcome here. Read that again. Our Gods do not care what color you are, what's between your legs, or who you care to share your bed with. Paganism is for everyone. With some very small exceptions, every society on the planet was at one point polytheist and/or Pagan. The Gods and spirits you are praying to have seen everything, and they still answer. Every culture has had problematic practices in the past, but the overwhelming majority of modern pagans are using the past to inform the practices of today, not trying to enforce archaic and harmful traditions of the past.

4.) Tell others what you are, not what you aren't. I think John Beckett touches on this in one his books or his blog. When you talk/write/post about your faith, always use positive language. Don't say "I'm not a Christian because XYZ", say "I'm a Pagan because of XYZ". Words have power. The words you choose are important, when spoken aloud or transmitted to others they become real. If you're starting down your journey by constantly saying what you aren't, it's going to be hard to become what you are.

5.) How do I know which (God/pantheon/denomination/tradition) to follow? Lucky for you, there's no baptism rite, conversion ritual, or penance you have to pay to become a Pagan. You wake up one day, decide to become a Pagan, and we welcome you with open arms. Artwork, myths/stories, practices, geographic/cultural origins, and many other factors can influence where your practice leads you. But, ultimately it's 100% up to you. Eventually something will feel right, point your ship that direction until the feeling changes and then make course corrections as you go. Also, see #3.

6.) Develop a broad community. My family is Heathen. One of my best friends is a Wiccan. My sister in law is an astrologer and tarot reader neither of which are practices in my home. My parents are conservative Christian and many of my dearest friends are militantly atheist. I've learned something from all of them, in matters both sacred and mundane. Excluding people from your life because of their, or your, beliefs is only going to cut off a source of possible growth, knowledge, and wisdom. I'm not saying you shouldn't punch the nazi down the road, but I am saying that you shouldn't exclude folks from your life because of their beliefs in just the same way that we expect to not be excluded because of our beliefs.

7.) Everyone likes book recommendations right? Here's my top five "general" Paganism books:

- The Path of Paganism - John Beckett (And his follow-up, Paganism in Depth)

- Paganism: An Introduction to Earth Centered Religions - Joyce & River Higginbottom

- A World Full of Gods - John Michael Greer

- Pagan Theology: Paganism as a World Religion - Michael York

- Myths and Symbols in Pagan Europe - H.R. Ellis Davidson

7.a) I made this list to make this point: Books are good. Blogs are good. Talking to others is good. Doing things is great. Paganism is an experiential faith. Go for a walk in the forest, go camping in the desert, kayak around your local pond/lake/coast. Do a ritual, cast a spell, read your runes, meditate and pray often. We are not a scripture based faith. Eventually you have to stop reading/researching and start doing. It's called religious "practice" not religious "research".

If this advice benefits at least one person, I'll be happy to have made it. Summer is just around the corner, I wish all of you the brightest of days ahead.

10 Comments
2024/03/31
03:17 UTC

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A guide to discernment: how to tell apart your own thoughts from deity communication

In the time I've been in the Pagan community, one question has popped up more than any other -- "How do I tell what's a message from a deity versus what's in my head?"

Many of us are called to build relationships with gods in a way that involves active communication. Be that prayer and answer, requests for guidance, a relationship of service and priesthood, or even oracular work, hearing and understanding the voices of our gods is a big part of many pagans' practice.

Gods communicate with us in many ways: through divination, by the tarot cards and the pendulum movements they reveal. Through signs, by sending deer and ravens and lightning bolts at times and in ways that are profoundly meaningful to us. Through feelings and nudges, such as a feeling of "rightness" when giving an offering or feeling pushed or called to do something. And, occasionally, through ecstatic experience: intensely feeling them around us in nature, or meeting them in Otherworlds through meditation and journeying, or even inviting them within us in ritual possession.

It's important to be able to tell: was it really them? was I imagining it? are they really telling me to do this thing? Being able to accurately identify and interpret our experiences is called discernment; it is a process and a skill that can only be developed through consistent practice.

Discernment is a huge topic and a lifelong journey, but I want to focus on some common situations:

  • "I just left an offering for Aphrodite, and now I'm worried I did it wrong. I sense anger. Is she upset with me?"
  • "I had a sudden thought in my head, claiming to be Odin. Are they really who they're claiming to be? Is it an impostor? Or is it my own inner thoughts?"
  • "I received a message from Hekate saying I should do something for her. I'm unsure, and I want to double-check."
  • "I had an intense meditation experience; I met the Morrigan and she told me something that was deeply meaningful and transformative. But now I'm doubting myself. Was it really her?"

These forms of communication are all direct. Unlike signs, or tarot cards, or candle flickering, these are all examples of communication where we connect with deity directly. We perceive them with our inner selves, through our thoughts or feelings or our mind's eyes and ears (but not literal sight or sound). While direct communication can be extremely intense, discernment itself is a very grounded practice.

It's important to be cautious about this type of communication if you're experiencing schizophrenia, psychosis, paranoia, or any other mental health concern that interferes with your perception of reality. If you are plural, it significantly complicates matters. I'm not a doctor; consult a spiritually-informed and pagan-friendly mental health professional. Moving on, I'm gonna assume you don't have any of these.

Direct communication has one thing in common: it is mediated through our own thoughts and experiences. How many times have you had a stray thought or feeling enter your mind? How many times have you had an imaginary conversation with a friend, or given yourself a pep talk? Given the extraordinary power of our minds to experience and to create, how can we know whether what we're experiencing is ours or coming from the gods?

Techniques

These are remastered from my previous guide on discernment.

One note: Don't overthink or derail your experiences in the moment. Let them happen. You have all the time in the world afterwards to reflect on them.

Second note: these are general patterns, not absolutes; think of them less as rules and more as ways to consider and contextualize your experience.

Considering context

When and where did the experience happen? While you were in a deep meditative or trance-like state? In the middle of a ritual? In a particularly weird area of the woods? While you were out and about?

Is the message you're receiving related to the situation that you're in, or what's going on in your life in general?

Some places and times are more conducive to connecting with gods. I'm devoted to a Storm Goddess, and the energy of a storm makes it significantly easier for me to hear her voice.

Meditation and trance, rituals, journeying into the Otherworlds, being in spaces and times associated with that deity (forests, crossroads, moonlit sky), these are all states in which we can put ourselves to more loudly and clearly hear from our deities.

Just how a lightning strike can happen on a clear sky, so can deity communication be surprising and sudden. I've known people who've received deep insights during mundane activities (such as while driving, or during a short break at work), so don't discount it just because it didn't happen during a "special moment".

Sometimes deities speak to us in dreams. But most of the time dreams are just dreams, and they happen if we think a lot about a subject, such as if we're deeply devoted to someone. If it was a dream, did the texture and characteristics of the dream suddenly change? Was the moment of communication profoundly different from the rest of the dream? In what way?

Understanding your relationship with the message

Do you have certain hopes and fears? Are you particularly invested in hearing or not hearing something? Are you primed by recent or past experiences to expect something in particular? Were you surprised by what you heard or did it sound like exactly what you wanted to hear?

If the message is in answer to a question, how did you phrase the question? Was it loaded? Do you have an intense hope or expectation for a particular answer?

If it's exactly what you wanted to hear (or what you most feared), it could be just your mind playing tricks on you. On the other hand, if a message is surprising, unexpected, or deeply insightful, perhaps there's more to it.

Sometimes gods (especially ones like the Morrigan) hold up a mirror to ourselves. They cut through our self-denial and avoidance, down to the truths we don't want to acknowledge. Are they telling you to do something that, deep down, you know you should be doing? Are they peeling back layers of denial and rationalization to reveal the core of a situation?

How do you relate to the message? What's your reaction to what you heard? I was once in a meditation with the Storm Goddess I'm devoted to, and she said something that cut so intensely and deeply to the core of my being; she saw right through me better than I did myself. The content of the message isn't relevant to this post. What matters is that it hit like a bolt of lightning, and I knew for sure it came from her.

Taking an emotional inventory

Take an emotional inventory of yourself. What were you feeling right before you had the experience: stressed, hungry, aroused, relaxed, guilty?

Particularly:

  • Some emotional states make it very hard to discern. For example, if you're really stressed, anxious, or needy, it's hard to clearly hear the voice of your deity. Take a step back and respectfully ask to postpone communication for when you're better able to receive it. A message can wait; prioritize self-care.
  • Christian baggage (fear of punishment, "you're going to hell" etc.) can seep into your relationships. If it's a message related to hell, eternal punishment, damnation, or something like that, ignore it. It's not your deity.
  • Trauma can really affect your ability to discern properly. I've seen many Pagans who are sure they've angered the gods. When I go deeper into the source of those feelings, it turns out that they've had traumatic experiences in the past that have primed them to expect sudden angry outbursts or intensely domineering behavior. If it sounds just like the voice of your abuser, don't overthink it: just ignore it.
  • With intensely emotional and vulnerable work, emotions can run high and sometimes that manifests as sadness, guilt, and other paradoxical feelings. I would treat that as "my emotions are out of whack right now" and not something sent by a deity.

Negative feelings and messages from deities do occasionally occur, but they are pretty rare compared to instances of intrusive thoughts and internalized abuse.

It's good to work with a trusted therapist through your traumas. Shadow work is also very useful. Deconstruct your latent christianity. The more resilience you build, the more you'll be able to safely enter intense or ecstatic forms of communication, and the better your discernment will be. It's a long and bumpy road, so be kind to yourself.

Knowing the gods

Get to know your gods. Research and learn about them. Is what they're saying in line with who they are? Does it make sense from a lore perspective? Does it align with others' experiences of them? Did it "seem" like them?

Identifying the voice

If you're feeling a "voice" communicating to you (again, not literal sound), how does it feel? Is there a sense of connection or presence? Does the voice carry a certain energy or feeling (maybe warm and calming, or perhaps intimidating and tempestuous)? What is the tone?

Does it feel like your own inner thoughts, or is it external? Where is the voice placed? Is it in your head, behind your head? Does the air feel different? Are you hyperaware? Are you in a meditative or trance-like state?

Is the voice easy to consciously control, or does it defy attempts to change what it says?

Journaling

Write down/journal your experiences so you can refer back to them later. In particular, make sure to separate the raw experience from your interpretation, so you can refer to either at a later date. Pick a few questions from the previous techniques that you find most useful and make it a habit to write down the answers.

Use your journal to cross-reference different messages at different times. Identify patterns and contradictions. Use them to improve your discernment in the future.

Confirming

If you're unsure, you can ask for a more direct sign, or double-check with divination methods such as tarot or pendulums. You can ask for the same message on separate occasions. The more "out there" a request is, the more confirmation is warranted.

Sometimes we receive information that we couldn't possibly have known about in advance. That's happened to me and others I know, and it's one of the more bulletproof ways to confirm a message. Don't expect it to happen too often, but when it does, let it reinforce your connection, your trust, and your confidence.

Getting comfortable with not knowing

Do you need to be 100% sure to take meaningful action?

I once had an experience with the Morrigan where she told me something. I wasn't sure, at all, whether it was actually a message or not. I had lots of doubts. When I went to confirm, the message I got was, in broad strokes, "I don't care whether you're sure or not, you better heed what I said."

Oftentimes, you don't need to know with 100% certainty in order to have a way forward. If the message is positive, encouraging you to do something you know is important for your growth and practice, or revealing a truth that you need to confront to better yourself, does it matter whether it came from a deity, or whether it was an insight you had on your own?

Maintaining boundaries

Know and keep your boundaries, especially if your relationship with your deities includes service or other work you're signing yourself up for.

Have a moral and personal baseline you won't cross. Things you won't do if you feel like you're being asked to. Check in with yourself. Does something feel off? Do you feel asked to put yourself down? Do you feel asked to do something unethical? Take a step back.

If the voice and message are causing you distress, making you feel less than, forcing you into a subservient role, or otherwise put you down and diminish you rather than help you grow, it's likely trauma or intrusive thoughts. See above, Taking an emotional inventory.

  • If an experience is causing you distress in the moment, stop and take care of yourself.
  • If you can't get away from distressing messages, take a break from deity communication and focus on working through your mental health. I wrote a while ago about connecting with deities after trauma.

Even if a message is 100% confirmed, you still have sovereignty over your life. You have the right to say no, or to revoke consent. It is ultimately your decision when and how to act on the information received.

The importance of honesty

All these techniques are useless if we aren't honest with ourselves. I imagine that most people reading this, like myself, want to have an authentic and meaningful practice. That means being honest about when we're receiving messages from our deities, and when we're not.

How grounded is your practice?

Are you experiencing constant and continuous casual conversations with your deities as if it were an inner dialogue? If so, do you practice discernment? Or do you take every thought at face value and treat it as if it's for sure your god?

The risks of an ungrounded, undiscerning practice go beyond not being honest with ourselves. We could lose touch with reality, and start acting on random thoughts and impulses. We are disempowering ourselves, because we're treating unconfirmed messages as certain and definitive, taking away our agency in the relationship. When troubling thoughts come up, if we accept them undiscerningly as the voice of our gods, it's easy to get into a spiral of negativity and mental crisis.

And, ironically, an ungrounded practice could drive us further away from our gods, by letting our own inner dialogue drown them out.

Some of us have the opposite problem though, and we have trouble trusting ourselves and the voice of our deities. We become paralyzed with doubt rather than moving forward with necessary action. Sometimes honesty means accepting that, yes, it's real, and we have no excuses but to do the work.

It's important to be honest about our experiences when we talk to other people, too. If we serve as priests to our deities, in whatever way that means to each of us, this is particularly important. We represent our deities and our practices, and others look to us as examples of how to interact and build relationships with the gods we serve. Oracular work is outside the scope of this post, but if we're interpreting messages meant for someone else, discernment is 1000 times more important and getting it wrong is 1000 times worse.

Priest or no, if we are too quick to share on reddit what our deities told us, we don't give ourselves time to grow and reflect. We're too busy packaging our experiences for social media to allow them to deeply impact us. And it makes others, especially beginners, feel discouraged, by making them feel like their infrequent, vague, or uncertain interactions with deities are "less than". It creates a culture where we share messages from deities glibly rather than thoughtfully. It muddies the waters if we share messages as factual without having done the discernment work first. It does us, our deities, and our fellow pagans no favors if we embellish our experiences or gloss over the challenging and uncertain parts of our practice.

Closing thoughts

Communicating with our gods, hearing back from them, and building a deep and intimate relationship with them is one of the most awe-inspiring parts of our practice. It's important to be grounded and discerning, but not so grounded as to deny ourselves our own experiences. Discernment doesn't just mean knowing when a message doesn't come from a god, but also knowing when it does, and acting accordingly.

It's a skill that's trained with patience and repetition, and something we can infuse within our practice until it becomes second-nature.

Discernment gives our relationships and experiences depth and meaning that they wouldn't otherwise have had. It's at the foundation of my own path. Without discernment, I wouldn't have had a good way to process and understand my own intense and transformative experiences.

I hope this knowledge helps you as much as it has helped me. May it deepen your devotional practice and allow your meaningful experiences to shine all the brighter.

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2024/03/31
01:35 UTC

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ostara

i was wandering if i could kind of mix ostara celebrations and do them on easter day? during the actual ostara i was really tired and i didnt really didnt do much. i had college that day and course work i had to catch up on. i would be celebrating ostara with the intention of celebrating the rebirth of nnature rather than the christain celebration.

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2024/03/30
23:16 UTC

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Hekate + practice problems.

I am relatively new to paganism and Hekate was the first deity to reach out to me. I really want to dedicate my time to her, make an altar, and give offerings. However, I am unable to because my family are huge Christians, and I am scared they will get mad.

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2024/03/30
10:59 UTC

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Inter-cultural deity equivalents

I was curious to hear different people’s interpretations and experiences with gods from one pantheon that are sometimes listed as being associated with/equivalent to/versions of a god from another pantheon?

For example, I’m beginning to get more involved in Celtic paganism and was trying to read and learn more about Lugh/Lugus. Some articles I’ve read say he was associated with or equivalent to the Roman god Mercury, but I’m not sure how to interpret this exactly. Do folks who practice tend to see this as perhaps Lugus being a different cultural form of Mercury, like Hermes being a direct counterpart to Greeks, i.e. the same god going by a different name? Or two distinct gods who in ancient times were just equated together to serve cultural/political assimilation?

The other example that’s slightly different was Apollo and Belenus. I see that the Gaulish god Belenus was often identified with Apollo in Roman times, so similar to the previous example, I’m wondering if I should consider them distinct or different versions/“faces” of the same entity. What complicates this particular example is the existence of Apollo-Belenus as a god worshiped by Gallo-Romans. Do others consider Apollo and Belenus as synonymous, as different aspects of the same, as two distinct deities, or Apollo, Belenus, and Apollo-Belenus as three distinct deities?

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2024/03/30
03:14 UTC

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Negative Entities disguised as a Diety?

I have been in contact with Athena and Loki. They usually speak to me in my head, as my inner voice. Earlier, I heard a male voice say, “can I come in?” And claimed to be Loki. Obviously I already had him there, and I asked who it really was. All I heard was a terrible laugh, and I banished the voice from my headspace and cleansed myself. I didn’t hear it again after that.

What are the chances that a negative entity can communicate with you this way? Is this something I have to prepare for?

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2024/03/30
00:27 UTC

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Hair

Should pagans keep their hair long or is it more just personal choice?

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2024/03/29
17:27 UTC

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Which gods represent change, transformation, or rebirth?

I’m new to paganism and have found few answers about this that I connect with. Looking for some guidance. Thanks

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2024/03/29
06:06 UTC

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