I got excited to rewatch on Peacock because I loved Homicide so much when it first aired. But I noticed that the episode numbers and descriptions, and even the order of the episodes conflict between Peacock and IMDB listings. And then when you add in the Life in Repeat podcast they are calling episode 10 episode three and I’m so confused!! Reed Diamond is one of my long time crushes and I love listening to him and Kyle tell stories and background. I even love their corny little musical flairs for recurring segments. Oh and hey Xfinity and Peacock, why the hell does the sound sync lag further and further after each commercial?!?

So I’m an old school homicide fan. I watched it as a kid as it aired but I never watched the whole thing. I checked out after Junior Bunk shot up the squad room and Pembleton left. I saw one or two episodes of Season 7 when it originally aired but I couldn’t get into Mike Giardello or the blue squad room and I checked out.

Here I am 30 years lawyer almost and I’m working my way through season 7 for the first time and everyone is so horny. The guys are swarming the girls and the girls are panting for the boys. And poor ole Gharty, no one seems to want him. Yet. We shall see.

I just finished this season and I’d forgotten how good Frank’s resignation was - in the hospital with Gee and Mary. While I am not a fan of Falsone and Gharty, the season was better than I remembered. It could be argued that the series could’ve ended here - and then led right into the movie. Of course, we don’t know Little Gee, yet, which is critical to the movie but season seven is a lot of disconnected story lines from the legacy of the show.

Over the years I've collected some of the things I've come across from Homicide. Some cool, some mid, some maybe even fake, but it makes me happy. This one of my favorites, a certificate from Barnfathers office.

Is there a continuity issue w peacocks order of episides? Season 4 episode 12(peacock) is The Hat - but I see it as 10 online.

The episode ends with some locker slamming and a big development then poof next episode is like nothing happened!

Or did I miss something?

I’m doing my first run through … huge fan so far and I know Kellerman can be a dividing line…but I’m on to S6 and I don’t know why but I’m loving Stu and Ballard

Doesn’t help that they were both on The Wire

Shocked I like his character as much as I do!

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Currently binge rewatching (thank you Peacock!!). I forgot how amazing the show is, but also forgot how good Clark Johnson/Merrick Lewis is. In the middle of season 5. There are a few episodes in a row that highlight Lewis a little, and his concern for Kellerman. Just awesome character and acting.

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I'm binging the show for the first time and it's great. I'm almost finished season 4 and something has been bothering me. What was going on with Melissa Leo, the show, the writers, the producers, etc. to push her character to the background? It seems like she hasn't been that active of a character since she passed the Sargent's exam. Is this how she's written out (I know Leo left after season 5)? It feels like we're seeing a lot more of Russert this season, just as a comparison.

Does anyone know what went on? Is she in the background like this for season 5, too? I enjoy the character, so I've been missing her!

First, I love this show. I think it's probably the first show you could call "prestige TV," long before The Sopranos came along. I will bet that "The Bear" was influenced by its raw, hyper-personal format.

I do want to get folks' opinions on what you think the reason is that these folks are always angry at something. They have angry outbursts on a daily basis. I get that it's a stressful job, and that the police department is poorly funded. But the way the workplace is full of people flipping out on each other all the time has to be for a reason.

To me, it feels stressful. Are real police like this, because this show seems very real on a human level. Thanks.

Just finished season 6 and am on the second episode of season 7! I had a question that I can’t seem to find the answer to online though. Was Bayliss originally written and supposed to die at the end of season 6? It seemed like his story was pretty wrapped up, and him dying would have made Frank leaving the job much more meaningful and give him character growth as well. To see him next episode up and walking as if nothing ever happened seems completely out of place. Like, especially after the whole “I smell death” thing at the end of season 6. Am I off-base here?

(Sorry if this makes no sense, I have legitimate medical brain damage and have trouble writing paragraphs lol. Let me know if I need to clarify any of this! :))

Juliana Cox,aka Medical Examiner really ruined my enjoyment by simply the producers forcing her into every freaking episode in season 6. She was not that riveting a character to give her more screen time than Melissa Leo ever got .

I don't remember S7 as well as I remember the other seasons and now on rewatch I know why.

No Frank Pembleton is absolutely the biggest gaping hole. It is NOT the same show without Frank. He was the center, the heart of the whole thing.

I miss Mike Kellerman too. You needed the friction of a slightly rogue cop in the squad room, and without it, everyone's too buddy buddy. We needed Mike's contrariness.

The dating!! The attractive people!! Why do I care about who is dating who? Why is Stivers suddenly wearing makeup? Why is everyone all sexified??

It's definitely an incredibly weak season compared to the other 6. Almost a totally different show.

I'm on S5E2

And MAN this is tough. This is my first run through the show and I'm loving it so much--but I had to stop the episode because the stuttering and the outbursts were so uncomfortable!

Braugher is great -- I think? I can't tell!

It's so hard to figure this out.

How long does it last?

Genuinely curious, as I've heard/seen different takes.

We just started a first-time watch - just finished S02. And we're curious as to if there is a point we should stop watching (other than the end) to preserve these characters, this show's quality, etc.

Some seem to think S04 is the last good season. Many say many characters were done dirty. We just wanna save that disappointment, heh.

So i just finished the series and movie. Loved it. It’s officially my new favorite show… taking the place of SVU that has held it the last 20 years lol.

At the end when they are pointing to the chairs and giardello says there is a fourth chair. Who is that chair for? Is it for Tim? Does he kill himself ?

Does anyone know the order of all the law and order x HLOTS episodes ?? And which series I’m suppose to watch them on ?? Thank you !!

Just watched the season 5 opener Hostage: Part 1 and caught two Easter eggs referencing other TV shows.

First, Gee mentions Nash Bridges which aired opposite H:LOTS on CBS. Second, the last name of the teacher whose class is being held hostage at the middle school (and is revealed at the end to be played by Anne Meara) is DiGrazi which struck me as a callout to DeGrassi Junior High.

I have spent the last 3 to 4 months attempting to watch every single episode of this show. I'll admit that the first 3 seasons were enjoyable and quick views. But I'm not going to lie: The remaining seasons were absolutely brutal to get through.

The things I liked:

- This show's impact was profound on crime and cop tv. Practically every cop show since was influenced by Homicide from Law & Order: SVU, CSI to even The Rookie. Homicide was always innovative and far ahead of it's time.

- There was some spectacular actors and acting. Kyle Secur, Ned Beaty, Andre Braugher, Yaphet Kotto, Melissa Leo, Richard Beltzer and Jon Polito were spectacular in main cast. The cameos were amazing as well such as Robin Williams and Lilli Tomlin.

- Some of the shots were abstract, groundbreaking and amazing.

- It's great to see actors before they made it big.

- Law and Order crossover were good but I'm always in the bag for Briscoe and Curtis.

- The Sniper two parter was the best of the last four seasons.

- Luther Mahoney was great until the end. Almost super villain.

Things I didn't like:

- There are 3 characters I wasn't necessarily meant to hate but can't stand the sight of: Meldrick Louis, Kellerman and Russert. Kellerman is a maybe in terms of how his character ended up.

- Crosetti, Bayliss and even Munch I felt like were done dirty.

- I know Crosetti was because Jon Polito was fired because he objected to the character of Meghan Russert and he was vindicated since she was basically meh.
- I don't know if Bayliss' arc was always meant to go down his inevitable road to death road. But it still felt dirty since he was IMHO the real protagonist of the show.
- Why did they imply that Munch commit murder at the end of the tv series finale? It just seemed shitty.

- I feel like the show ran out of steam after Season 3.

I'd be the worst studio exec because I would've given one season to get it right and then ended it.

Seasons 4-5 tried to make Kellerman and Louis be main characters but they just bored me to tears. It's bad when Kellerman put a gun to his head and I'm sitting there hoping he does it to put me out of my misery.

Season 6 was less of Kellerman but any Kellerman is too much Kellerman. Like Cancer.

Season 7 was so sloppy and everyone looked miserable.

- I wish Jon Seda had started in earlier seasons. I think he could've saved the show. He had the main character skill and attention that Kellerman and Louis just didn't have. He just came into the picture when the show was in its death throws of Seasons 6 and 7.

- HLOTS the Movie wanted us to be ecstatic when most of the cast came back for overglorified cameos. I feel like Giancarlo Esposito was done super dirty in the movie. He was basically Kellerman. I'm glad he got the recognition he deserved in later roles such as "Gus" in Breaking Bad.

- Luther Mahoney was a great villain. But Meldrick and Kellerman looked like clowns. It was shameful how he met his end. Wrong.

In Conclusion:

Naturally, all of this is my opinion and I'm ok with it being challenged. Feel free to comment below.

I will always love the first 3 seasons and it's contributions to modern homicide/cop shows. It wasn't necessarily was afraid to take risks. But I think it was like the Big Bang Theory and guilty of overstaying their welcome.

I basically hate watched Season 4-7 and the movie. I'm sparing the movie because that scene with Bayliss confessing to Pembleton saved the film at the end.

I can now rest in peace knowing that I've seen every episode and I don't have to see anymore. Thank God and it's been a blast.

EDIT: Added Yaphet Kotto to likes.

RIP:

Yaphet Kotto

Andre Braugher

Richard Beltzer

Robin Williams

EDIT 2:

I added more things I like and didn't

I have been thinking a LOT about the media I consume and how it affects my view on the whole Copaganda thing.

So I'm doing a rewatch on Peacock and I'm currently on Season 5. I noticed something that I hadn't before - the season 5 production order and broadcast order match up, making it the only season that didn't air any episodes out of order. Just some interesting trivia....

Have probably watched the episode five or six times before rewatching for the first time in about 7 years on the new streaming collection.

I have to say, as a guy, I had never previously noticed the themes of Pembleton’s treatment of Howard with the Chilton case (what we would now call blatant mansplaining) and of men putting their emotional burdens on women, with Russert feeling she has to deal with Beau’s emotions (the allusion of him crying and Meagan going upstairs to check on her daughter is not subtle) and Lewis almost sabotaging Howard as part of dealing with Crossetti’s death

Gee’s colourism and Felton’s anger/breakdown are the focal points, of course…but also, to a modern eye, the depiction is incredibly one sided: the Loyola prof may not have thought anything like he suggests, and c’mon Beau, give her a few weeks.

Anything anyone else is noticing when re-watching?