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So I’m almost done with the series, and I can’t help but have this lingering feeling of wanting more. I wish we could have seen more of the Barksdale vs. Stanfield war. Not to mention the potential shootouts we could have experienced between Omar and Chris. And what about Brother Mouzone?? Talk about a missed opportunity to see that man in action.
The wire showed us the similarities between the good guys and the bad guys by mirroring scenes.
When bunny colvin is being dismissed from duty at comstat and snaps at Rawls :"Get on with it motherfucker"
In the same episode stringer cornered by Omar and Brother mouzone. About to be shot, stringer goes " Well, get on with it mother-"
Both scenes, a case of the 'higher ups' taking down characters who have failed- bunnys misguided and illegal attempt to bring down crime rates and stringer's naive and 'illegal' attempts to buy influence. Both Bunny and stringer were on the verge of leaving their current professions. Both looking forward to a different life - Bunny was retiring, with his majors pension ,while stringer was moving into real estate, into legitimate business.
I think there are many more such parallel scenes...
S3 Ep1, Stringer running a board meeting and Poot puts up his hand and stands to speak….”Do the Chair understand we gonna look like some punk ass bitches out there ?”. Makes me laugh everytime. What are peoples favourite one liners ?
Just started watching tonight. I see a lot of people say this didn’t hook them the first episode but man, from the pilot I can already tell this is going to be a great storyline to be told over time with a dense plot.
“God damnit you’re going to make me do another round”
watching the series through for the first time. D’Angelo getting murdered at the end of episode. That hurt. More so than little man at the end of season 1. D’Angelo was the moral compass on the other side from s1e1.
That will be with me for awhile.
On my second rewatch of the show, I love him so much and all the things he stands for. Season 3 & 4 show how much of a forward thinker he is. Underrated character imo.
Many rewatches, never understood how Nico's girlfriend woke up alone during the police raid. So he had a different girl in bed that morning. Was she seen in the series before?
There's something that gives me chills when Briana convinces D'Angelo to take the years in prison. She feeds him this stuff about how it's his duty and the family is depending on him. She manipulated him into thinking it was on him.
What are some of the most cruel instances of emotional manipulation in the show?
Curious if anyone else who watched Generation Kill before The Wire also has a favorable opinion on ziggy. As a marine vet, James Ransone played the perfect burnt out, salty corporal that hates the corps but at the same time can’t live without it. Maybe ziggys mom also took him to nascar
Stringer and Marlo represent a sharp dichotomy in their approach to power and success. Stringer spent his life chasing the image of a businessman, trying to shortcut his way to legitimacy through figures like Clay Davis. Yet, his naivety left him stranded between two worlds—too soft for the streets and too crude for the business elite. He was a man without a true home, lost in his attempts to be something he wasn’t
Marlo, however, embodies the ruthless efficiency and cold pragmatism of raw capitalism. His focus on power and control aligns more closely with the traits of a successful businessman. Yet, when given the opportunity to enter the legitimate business world, he rejects it entirely, walking away from a party that could have been his entry point. Where Stringer naively sought acceptance, Marlo dismissed it outright, fully content with his own definition of power
Something I noticed. And it’s cool how there’s no polished meaning to this dichotomy. It’s just what it is
I've been listening the punk/pop-punk band Banner Pilot a ton lately. they have a song called "Baltimore Knot". If you are into the genre I highly recommend checking them out.
There's no freaking way it's not a reference to The Wire in general and specifically this clip from S2E5 - https://youtu.be/QABVBv1ZBEs?si=rHMaHYQ3y23KUvXt
Here is the song - https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=Tfn2lqUWXAE&si=MIlAJ9uFgJLZwUdU
Has anyone else noticed a song that references The Wire?
I’m looking for suggestions, I’ve seen breaking bad, sopranos. How did you all move on from Baltimore?
I know that there is an episode coming up with some animal abuse in it (I think it is season 5 episode 8) and was wondering if I could or should skip it or skip that part of the episode. I know some people can't understand this but for some reason seeing animals being abused really upsets me. I'm struggling with depression a bit these days and dreading this episode. What do you all think?
I feel like we always see season 2 and 4 discussion for better or worse but nobody ever really talks about season 3. Im just curious what everyone’s thoughts in here are. It seems like the season that just kind of exists to a lot of people that they don’t love it or hate it and nobody has anything to say about it. Kind of like a 40 degree day.
What If Avon Hadn't Stopped Stringer from Taking Out Clay Davis?
I’ve been rewatching Season 3 and got stuck thinking about that tense scene where Avon walks in on Stringer trying to convince Slim Charles to kill Senator Clay Davis. It’s such a pivotal moment that highlights the difference between Avon and Stringer’s mindsets.
For context: Stringer feels betrayed by Clay Davis, who scammed him out of his money for the construction projects. In response, he tries to leverage Slim Charles to handle it like they would any street problem—with violence. But then Avon steps in, calling out how crazy it is to even think about going after someone that high up.
This scene got me thinking, how far gone was Stringer at this point? Was he too deep into his delusion of becoming a “legitimate” businessman to realize how out of his depth he was? If Avon hadn’t stopped him, what would’ve happened? Would the murder have even been feasible? How quickly would the whole organization have imploded under the heat of taking out a senator? Would love to hear thoughts on this scene and the larger implications for both characters and the Barksdale organization.
Me: "Oh no."
every time, man. poor fuckin prez.
Understand I am late to watching the wire. Over a decade and a half. But what a show. The amount of symbolism, specifically the last season, is truly remarkable. Immediately came to this subreddit to see what other's thought, and all I can say is RIP Omar and Daniels.
Like seriously, when Marimow comes to the Unit, the boys are all like "yeah we're back to stomping heads and locking people up, Western District way" as opposed to the slow investigations of the wiretaps, following people, sitting on roofs to build the case.
But Herc still manages to find a way to fuck it up several times. He gets a good CI (bubbles) willing to help him out as long as he just beats up or lock up a guy that was harassing him (something that not only Herc should be great at but he would also enjoy), and earlier just loses the camera and lies about it with his boss. Literally all he had to do was say to Marimow "we know where Marlo and his guys meet and decide things, so we're gonna set up there to catch them on their plans later" or "boss I tried to spy on him but he found the camera". But no, he just lets his mistake get bigger and bigger and in the process actually fucks up more things.
I’m a first time watcher and I can’t tell if Omar’s death was cheap or brilliant. I think a little brilliant because Omar has always showed reverence for children. And all of his opposition were adult males in the streets. So to be killed by a child shows that he ultimately had too much power. So much so that someone his own size couldn’t kill him. And practically, a dumb child had to. And it’s not lost on me he had to sneaked up on. Omar was one of my favorite characters. He will be missed.. Also, RIP Michael K. Williams.
I'm on a rewatch and I always seem to forget they set up so many things in Season 1. Like the rift between Stringer and Avon and how they feel the game should be played. How they deal with Omar is the first crack they show.
I did search, all I can find are pictures of the printed shirt though.
I wanna print my own, so I need the picture itself as big and as hq as I can.
Anybody got a link to something like that, I'd be much obliged.
He has a do rag on and in one scene he was chatting with Joe while they were watching a drug bust in season 3 I think.
This is a character I see get a lot of hate from people. Folk think he's nothing more than a childish moron, but there's a lot more to the character of Ziggy than tends to get spoken about.
Ziggy's the product of a broken environment, and I feel a great deal of sympathy for him. He's clearly smart (even if an idiot in certain ways) and not suited to the life he's been forced into. He's not a blue collar guy at heart. In another life, or in a place with more resources, he'd have been doing something arty in College or similar. (Although of course, College kids ain't shit!)
Instead he's forced to follow in his dad's footsteps, feeling the constant burden of shame and disappointment that he's not Frank Sobotka mk2, while his cousin - his closest friend - is CLEARLY the son his dad wishes he had, and is bigger, stronger, and more capable in that environment.
He's also achingly desperate to belong. His antics in the bar, his general behaviour - he knows he's an outsider, but he's playing the clown in a futile attempt to get a little bit of warmth, affection, or even tolerance from these people. He's a show-off, but it's rooted in a strong desire to be loved, and skewed through the lens of someone who's never been given the tools to really deal with that.
Ziggy's a pain in the ass, but he's - for me - one of the most tragic characters in the whole thing. He's not a bad guy deep down; you can see how he breaks to take out Double G, and then breaks again when it's done and he just can't deal with what he's done. Then when his dad visits him in prison and he's clearly being assaulted constantly, you can tell he feels like he deserves it and is almost welcoming it.
He's one of those frequent examples of what is really a minor character in the grand scheme of things, but with so much depth and three-dimensionality that you just KNOW him.
They had his picture up and said that's everyone caught on the tap but I never heard him on the phone and the last time I saw him was a few episodes before when Snoop was on the back of the bike shooting and he hit the ground and got back up. Maybe I missed something.
Likely a lot of the scenes with Dukie could be this. There's one scene in particular in season 3 that has always stood out to me. In season 3 after the shootout with Omar's crew.
When Bunk gets called to the scene and the kids are arguing over whose turn it is to be Omar. The look on Bunk's face is particularly crushing. How innocent the kids are with fake guns doing the shootout act. Especially with Tosha laying on the street dead with a bullet in her head.
It felt poignant knowing about Kenard's moment in season 5 with Omar and just how the cycle of violence continues and ripples into the community
Who’s The Worst Characters In Season 4 And Why Is It Herc And Michael
This would be my sixth or seventh full watch - I'm halfway through season 1 - and the show still is just the best cast and best written show ever.
It is a little dated now, over 20 years later but still entertaining as hell and really, it's the cast, you could not have cast this show any better than than they did. Every roll. There's no bad casting anywhere. From the drunk old cops to the minion drug dealers, just absolute greatness throughout.
Of course the biggest actor to come out of this show is Wallace but it's good to see most of them have had solid careers since. But possibly the most underrated person on the show is Kima.
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