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Think the admins' trigger fingers will stop itching now that they've banned CA? That their craving for censorship will eventually begin to wane? Or that r/drama will at least escape their grasp?

I don't know about you, but I have severe doubts they will overcome their inexplicable lust for clicking that big red button, and we have already seen they have expressed an "interest" in this very sub, so in light of that I went and archived the top 250 r/drama posts of all time:

1-25: http://archive.is/MTLwc

26-50: http://archive.is/Iqoo4

51-75: http://archive.is/rSh1B

76-100: http://archive.is/pueVR

101-125: http://archive.is/0Jkgt

126-150: http://archive.is/LwBX3

151-175: http://archive.is/H5TRC

176-200: http://archive.is/oIxwq

201-225: http://archive.is/EmsGP

226-250: http://archive.is/o9Kop

I also archived all the comment sections for the top 50 (click the first two links, and open the links from there).

Note: I didn't realize this was going to turn into such a massive post. I know Meower drama in itself is probably pretty weak, but this post kind of serves as a post-mortem on the demon.local invasion. The actual drama is mainly in the "posted a notice" link, which contains the full thread, but I've added links to pertinent messages within the thread, as well as a few footnotes for added context. While it might seem that my sympathies lie with the Meowers, the truth is, in the end I feel for the poor sysadmins who had to deal with this shit on all sides.

Background: In late spring of '98, Scott Porter, who posted in alt.flame as FyRE and in the regional British groups as Liquid, trolled the Meowers into invading demon.local, a regional newsgroup for Demon Internet users. demon.local was occupied by a group of posters who called themselves ".sig bunnies"^1 and would "flame" anyone who posted to the group with a .sig file of over 4 lines. I put quotes around "flame" because "Your .sig is too long for demon.local. Sort it." was what the .sig bunnies considered a flame.

Of course, the more the .sig bunnies complained, the longer the .sigs got, culminating in July Ford-McKenna's epic 1,000 line .sig, which contained reviews of his previous .sigs, useful German quotes, poetry, and of course, ASCII art.

The drama begins: Once they realized that Meowers were somewhat adept at getting around kill filters, they sought help from the folks in news.admin.net-abuse.usenet^2, where they didn't get a lot of sympathy. Here's the Meower's arch-enemy Guy Polis (who, at one time, used the email address "The -at- Meowers.suck" in his posts)[ telling chief .sig bunny Richard Ashton] (https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/demon.local/_D0aV1tTHmw/ryaF_PFFxoIJ):

This entire discussion appears to have gone over your head.

David Formosa, a neutral party in the discussion, suffered from agraphia which caused some really atrocious misspellings in his posts. His four-line .sig explained as much, but that did not stop .sig bunny Craig Oldfield from calling Formosa an "illiterate fuckhead".

This caused the thread's original title, "Cancel Criteria for Meow Newsgroup Invasions" to morph into "demon.local criteria for picking on handicapped people"

The .sig bunnies' sole focus on .sig length backfired on them when the "Your .sig is too long for demon.local" posts of Craig Oldfield and Christopher Sharp reached a Breidbart Index of <20, causing many of their posts to be cancelled as spam. Demon Internet news admin Andrew Gierth posted a notice (full thread, 218 posts/9 pages) to news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins and demon.local informing Mr. Sharp that some of his messages had been cancelled due to excessive multi-posting. To put this in perspective, this is like a bunch of teenagers TPing your neighbor's house, only to have your neighbor get a ticket for disturbing the peace because he's complaining too loudly about his house being TPed.

Needless to say, the .sig bunnies were not happy. The first response called Gierth a "fuckwit".

Demon user Sherilyn -- posting from Deja News -- also points out the irony of a news admin posting in demon.local with an 8-line sig, and adding:

I know demon.local has had a bad time of it with the miaowing fucks from hell, and understandably tempers might be running a little high, but "your sig is too long" spam has been an endemic problem on d.l for as long as I can remember.

Still on the first page of Gierth's initial post, the .sig bunnies are making it clear they plan to die on the hill that is the four-line .sig. Gierth explains the difference between forged names and munged/morphed names and tries to explain why cancelling posts because "I don't like it" isn't a good criteria for cancels.

If you're wondering why I haven't really been quoting/linking Meower posts, it because they didn't take any of this seriously. Here's Nigel Thornley invoking the name of alt.aol-sucks troll Wurk and the fictitious Dennon Online^3 in response to the discussion on forged names. In cases where they tried to be reasonable, their posts were probably ignored due to a 5-line .sig Eight pages in and it's still about the 4-line .sig.

By page 9 of the thread, we see the appearance of what is probably the first wave of HipCrime cancellations^4, showing up almost two months after the thread was started. As the HipCrime software became more efficient, the havoc it wreaked essentially made the Meowers redundant.

Aftermath: the folks in demon.local eventually figured out the only way to end the Meow assault was to filter out anything crossposted in groups outside the demon.* hierarchy. However, the Meowers -- taking a page from the Dimitri Vulis playbook -- began customizing their headers, so that any time someone in demon.local wanted to read new messages, they'd still have to download the massive headers of messages that would end up being filtered out. This finally led to demon.local temporarily changing their charter limiting crossposts to one additional group, and only within the demon.* hierachy.

Footnotes: 1: The .sig bunnies actually wrote fan fiction about their adventures in telling people their .sig was too long for demon.local. No, really. Entry #9 tells how they, um, vanquished the Meowers.

2: Not all of Liquid/FyRE's posts seem to be archived, but from the quoted text in the first post, it would appear he started the thread, i.e., he was among the first to seek help from the admins in nana-u. While it was kind of a genius move on FyRE's part to troll the Meowers into demon.local, from what I understand this was his MO: start shit in a flame group, then get his opponents to follow him into non-flame groups, then netcop them and disappear.

3: Early in the invasion, .sig bunnies would set their follow-ups to "dennon.local", a non-existent group, in an attempt to divert Meowers' posts from demon.local. The Meowers responded by newgrouping the dennon.* hierarchy of groups. They don't show up on my Usenet server, although the groups alt.online-service.dennon-online and alt.stereo.dennon.online (?) do.

4: The cancelled posts belong to "U PORNPIG ASS", one of the many names used by Raoul J Xemblinosky. The 2-Belo also posted under the name "PUSSI PORGAN"; both names are anagrams of "Susan Groppi" one of the original Harvard students chased from Usenet at the start of the Meow Wars.

Background: After getting booted from GTE.net for being an abusive ass (reposting over 400 messages that had been cancelled), legendary usenet kook Rev. Steve Winter contacted the office of Sen. Jesse Helms to inform him that GTE.net was allowing child pornography to be propagated through their Usenet servers.

While I can't locate Winter's original post, here's a response to it. (link includes entire thread, containing 66 messages)

Fellow kook Steve Boursy shows up to lend moral support to Winter, claiming to "hate censors", while overlooking the fact that Winter was notorious for calling the ISPs and employers of his enemies, trying to get them fired or their accounts cancelled for their wrongs against him.

A GTE sysadmin also makes an appearance, reminding Winter:

GTE did NOT cancel Mr. Winter's account because of WHAT he was posting but rather WHERE he was posting (in violation of newsgroup charters).

"Bring Me The Head of Sanford Wallace" claims to also have been in contact with Senator Helms' office, saying:

I might also add that the individual I spoke with--though he could not tell me directly--hinted quite strongly that Mr. Winter was looked on as rather a kook by Senator Helms and his staff.

This leads to Rev. Winter responding with,

You call them. But they call me. Big difference.

In spite of the lurid title, this drama might seem kind of mundane. However, it is some rare secular Rev. Winter drama and offers a glimpse into the mindset of some of the classic usenet kooks; in spite of having literally thousands of newsgroups in which one could be an abusive prick and get away with it, that was never enough: they wanted all of Usenet to listen to their rants. And we think millennials are an entitled bunch?

As a bonus, Rev. Winter's website is still up in all its mid-90s html glory. You'll see a distinctive MO: Get kicked from an ISP, complain about kiddie porn. If you're wondering whatever happened to GTE.net, they're now known as Verizon. I guess he showed them, huh?

Also, let me know if this post is inappropriate or improperly formatted. I probably didn't flair it properly, but couldn't find any flair options.

Author(s): Various

Year(s): 2015

Community: Reddit - /r/drama, IRC - #drama

Original Source: #drama (privatepaste archive)
https://www.reddit.com/r/Drama/comments/35gnum/channel_ops_in_drama_duke_it_out_over_the_fate_of/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Drama/comments/35jr1r/the_fight_over_drama_continues_but_this_time_with/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Drama/comments/35iwar/changes_in_moderation_catty_bitches_im_an/?ref=search_posts
https://www.reddit.com/r/Drama/comments/3ua6e9/bipolarbear0_and_twasiwhoshotjr_have_yet_another/

Author: TwasIWhoShotJR

Year: 2012

Subreddit: /r/drama

Original Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/Drama/comments/150x7n/meta_a_very_serious_and_indepth_discussion_on/

Today is a somber day for r/Drama, our glorious and beautiful sub has been invaded by r/SRDBroke. Here is the bridge maliciously created by members of SRDBroke for no purpose other than to disrupt our proud community.

Now, I want to make it clear that invasions are very, very bad. I feel the best way to do this is to provide you all with some very meticulous data on how bent out of shape people can get if you vote in subs you're not a part of.

But that's not it! Here is some more in-depth research on the disruptive power of invading threads

And another one highlighting those who partake in thread invasions. How disgusting!

As you can see, this heinous crime makes users very very mad, but during my research on this topic I had a startling realization! Why, the utmost respected Reddit Invasionologist has seemingly become an invader herself.

Oh the horror.

Upon noting this tragic turn of events, my research team and I also discovered that /r/SRDBroke was created for the sole purpose of calling out another sub for thread invading. How could this be? How could a group of people so consumed by their hatred of thread invasions turn out to be thread invaders themselves?

After many hours of research, my team and I have discovered that thread invading is, in fact, caused by an infectious parasite.

We have named our discovery Srdbrokus hypocritious. The later stages of infection of this havoc wreaking parasite can be seen here : S. hypocritious.

Symptoms include:

• Teeth gnashing.

• Internet addiction.

• Slight cough.

• Complete loss of self-awareness.

• Hypocritical tendencies.

• Thread invading.

• Dry mouth.

While it is unknown how S. hypocritious is transmitted, we do encourage anyone who feels as though they may be infected to stay calm, and please get a grip.

Recovery:

While we are all surely still quite shaken from this tragic event, and it may seem as though we will never be the same, we will prevail.

Let us mourn the loss of our 3 self-post karma, and continue on.

r/Drama will also be instituting a sidebar list of quarantined zones. This list will consist of those areas deemed too hazardous to be visited, so as to protect ourselves from this sinister infection.

Sidenote: We have flair now yay!. A full list of emotes is coming soon. If you have any graphics/pictures you would like to be used as an emote, please send it to the moderators! Thank you! <3<3<3

Edit: No gross pictures please, ew.

Author: /u/laurelais_hygiene

Year: 2013

Original Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/Drama/comments/17vj9r/recap_the_rise_and_fall_of_leftonhahe/

There's something off about Lefto. I've always considered him a little bit strange for being able to post so many SRS links in SRSsucks. Such an avid poster would have to browse SRS regularly and read through all their crap to find the 'best' submissions. Nevertheless his comments weren't so lame at the time compared to now, that's.. until he smelled a mod position.

He was a pretty cool guy at the time, sticking up for me and my buddies who got banned from SRSsucks, ddxxdd even enforced an ip-ban on one of us, RIP /u/FistFuck, all he tried to do is make a magazine about SRSers and spread it around on reddit (but it's journalism!!), here he defends us:

ddxxdd I think you need explain yourself. You can't make a post like this and not give an explanation. This is immature behavior. I usually like your posts and agree with your views on SRS, but lately you've made some questionable decisions that you definitely need to explain.

• This led to a SRD post: Ddxxdd pulls out the banhammer in /r/SRSsucks

This is one of his initial posts about HarrietPotter. There doesn't seem to be anything wrong though.. It's not like he was falling in love with HP like an antiSRS mod before that. Oh something similar happened to ddxxdd, I'm not gonna dig to deep on this, but it was kind of embarassing*.

• Edit: here's context around horny PUA ddxxdd if you're into interracial drama

Skip forward: MRC decides to form a brigade sub called /r/botanyonmars and invite 10-20 people including me and Lefto (most of them were MRAers) to upvote some anti-Feminist video of his (boring). At some point there's a leak and Lefto comes clean about his relationship with HarrietPotter. SS2James (the blanked out name) and ENTP were hugely pissed off by this: private SRSsucks mod mail leak, this was just after he admitted to be the leak.

I was just enjoying the private popcorn, which was pretty big and lasted for a few days, until at some point Lefto did something trivial that pissed me off. I think he removed one of my comments in SRSsucks, so I pledged to take him down in mod mail. I wish I had more screens about this but I got demodded then. This led to public leaks, which made me look like the bad guy since only the private sub guys knew Lefto was the initial leak:

• TPS post with more leaks: Private sub of SRSsucks finds out LeftoNhahe is part of a SRS group. The mods want to keep him as a mole, but /u/LeftoNhahe does not approve of leaking stuff.

Surprisingly the SRSsucks mods didn't remove him after they banned me for leaking and creating meta drama, they had his back hardcore, like prison buddies, well most of them.. EvilFuckingSociopath isn't as delirious as MRC is (AAP is just a follower and ddxxdd is the silent nigger of the bunch, MRC is a major druggie who loves to reddit while high) so EFS unmodded himself from SRSsucks and demodded Lefto in TumblrInAction.

• Related SRD post: Minor spat in SRSsucks after a mod announces his sexual involvement with an SRSer

I was surprised the admins allowed brigade subs to exist (still am) so I decided to make my own 'private sub'. Surprisingly all the people who joined my sub hated Lefto his guts. Some of them hate him more than I do. People were posting links to lefto's comments and they were ridiculing him. We were calling his bullshit out in SRD and SRSsucks, most of the time our comments got deleted though.

He suddenly became depressed after people started calling his shit out. For some reason SRSsucks mods don't like it when you talk about Lefto's 'depression'. Not long after that regular SRDer /u/atteroero joined in on the hate train, note that this example is part of a longer series where /u/atteroero gives his 'opinion' about Lefto.

• Related /drama post: Leftonhahe and Atteroero are really going at it SRD

• Here's me vs Lefto: Minor Slapfight between LeftoNhahe and Laurelais_Hygiene in /r/worstofsrs...

There's so much shit flying around his head that he decides to 'not take it so seriously anymore' and he starts posting to /r/MangryShitlords which cost him his mod position. Here's me pointing out the existence of that sub btw, funny notion: after I made that post in SRSsucks, lefto suddenly started posting to /r/mangryshitlords :)

• SRD post after Lefto losing mod: LeftoNhahe defends /r/MangryShitlords, gets demodded from SRSsucks

For some reason a lot of meta-users got aboard the hate train to LeftoNhahe. I think he's the third most hated person in the metasphere at the moment, and we're only picking up more passengers as we head to our final destination (...) He easily surpassed the hate HP gathered. I think LL and AloyashaV are still a bit more hated than Lefto, but he's growing rapidly of the sudden. I think it's uniting the metasphere in hate, even SRS decided to join in just recently in their own unique way.

• Related drama post (obvious joke btw): LeftoNhahe or whatever, is a plant. More at 11.

What's the appeal in hating LeftoNhahe? Rofl that question is so hard to answer you lonely neckbeard, I'm richer than you! Personally I think it's his fucking Chihuhua Coco - what kind of early twenty something male buys himself a fucking rat and calls it a dog? You're a disgrace to all men.

I jokingly told him that he's bitter enough to be added to the /r/srdbroke mod list like a month ago. He replied to that comment yesterday with a very bitter and sad 'yes please' so I feel enough pity to do the following: I propose that the SRDBroke garbage bin takes care of him now - Lolfail, will you please accept LeftoNhahe as your new mod in /r/SRDBroke? He's good with computers + he's pretty rich, he can be of great meaning to you.

Edit: additional Lefto bullshit (credit goes to HarrietPotter for ratting him out) he posted an album of a naked girl to /gonewild pretending it to be his girlfriend: I'll post more i[f] you want me to. I've been told I have a great ass and nice body. I'm taking requests too. Let's start out with a big album :)