UPDATE 10/27: Jinoga has been unbanned! (Archive)

I think this is the right sub for this (sorry if its not, i noticed sometimes petsite posts go in hobbydrama but this is too recent for their rules). But the recently kickstarted petsite (think websites like neopets) Santae has been engaging in sketchy behavior since alpha testing. A buddy of mine got in and showed me some of the goings on and its... bad IMO. We mutually agreed that it was bad that the site was using AI art but that they could probably salvage their reputation if they owned up to it but their behavior has been so much worse than we thought. TL:DR During the Kickstarter they didn't state the KS items wouldn't be exclusive to the KS at first, staff lied about having AI art on the site, (allegedly) doxxed an ex staff member leaking info (who was not under NDA to my knowledge), and asked a banned user to provide their id to get unbanned and other things that won't be mentioned in this post like opening up a premium currency shop during ALPHA testing (Archived Link) and liking posts made by the drama blogs (normal thing that happens in petsite communities, nearly every petsite has/had one) on the official account that were positive towards staff and ignoring art theft allegations (Archive).

Kickstarter Sketchiness

During the Kickstarter it was noticed by a user who frequented the discord that they phrased statements to make it seem like things retired (Archived Link) on the Kickstarter page, however Santae has a anti-retirement policy for its pets and items (Archive) (Ctrl+F "If I miss the chance to get X item, will it be available again in the future?"). They only corrected this "error" when called out by the userbase.

Largely Santae seems fueled off of FOMO given the temporarily exclusive pets, for example alpha testers were the only ones to get an axolotl type pet called a Blepp, and the Kickstarter had an exclusive shimmer dust color called regal with some exclusive pets. The selling point seems to have been "get these now or they might be annoying to get in the future".

Use of AI Art

I largely thought that the NPC art of the site was simply placeholders from the alpha so they had used AI, this technically true as they have stated intent to redraw them to a drama blog dedicated to defending them. However the Staff have been repeatedly lying (Archived, Source (has been temp privated at the time of writing, sorry!), Archived Source) and claiming they don't use AI to its users, when they knew the whole time according to the defense blog, that these were traced AI art (Archive). Speedpaints, by the way, can't prove something isn't traced from AI, since artists can hide layers from showing up on them in some programs. Additonally users have noticed discrepancies in the Balloon Kid speedpaint that appears to be the ai layer being unhidden (Archive).

Doxxing of An Ex-Staff Member (Allegedly)

This is a claim you're going to want to take with a grain of salt, as its difficult to verify the legitimacy of this claim since only three of the drama blogs received the sensitive information, we don't know how they verified it was actual doxxing, and obviously we only received the censored threat (Archive). However, this blackmail is indefensible and clearly done in defense of Santae. If they didn't want this getting out they should have had their staff sign NDAs.

Banning A User and Then Requiring Said User To Provide Their ID

On October 24th, around 10am in their timezone user Jinoga was banned randomly, seemingly without any cause, when emailing support to appeal this ban, they were told Santae had a automated system that bans accounts had been compromised and then asked for photo ID. This user called bullshit and posted the entire exchange along with their reasoning on why they might have been banned (Archive). Kind of a strange thing to do and then 24 hours later get into hot water for doxxing, but that might just be me. TL:DR for their post: it's extremely suspicious because Santae doesn't collect user personal information (During Alpha testing I believe they asked for your discord handle, but nothing like this) and if their account had been hacked they should have been informed of it immediately instead of 5 hours later given that sometimes people reuse passwords. Jinoga then connected their ban to the release of a post that revealed their relation to an older petsite, Lurapets, which had a history of scamming and artist mistreatment, as well as the proof coming out of them using AI art the NPC art. Several users that the Santae staff thought might be involved in the creation of the post got banned, which Jinoga found out included them. So they came to the conclusion that, quote, "They don’t want my photo ID to verify I’m the account holder, they want my photo ID to verify I’m not someone else."

Conclusion?

Well I feel bad for everyone who backed the site now that's for sure. But it might be interesting to keep up with because Santae is turning out to be one of the most controversial petsites I've seen and I didn't even get into the Lurapets connection. How about you all? Might be fun to keep up with looking from the outside I suppose.

Posting here cos I need a link to share

Trigger warning: Mild mentions of homophobia

Sky: Children of the Light. An all ages game, where people connect and explore the beautiful fallen world of Sky together. What could go wrong? I present to you, unfortunately, one case out of the MANY predators that dwell within Sky.

Note: I do not condone bullying or harassment. Everything is said as objectively as possible with evidence evidence, albeit the final section.

Background

Recently, a certain speedrunner has been making some small waves on the Official Sky Discord. Intrigued by their incredible time, many members flocked to see whether it was the real deal or not.
But then came the uncomfortable questions and comments.
Many players reported them asking for their gender, sexuality and age, as well as them exhibiting more and more anti-LGBTQ behaviour on the Discord.
This led to the banning of their account.... multiple times (should be 10+ now, from when they said 8)

https://imgur.com/a/VBNylX5

Depending on their opinion of you, they might also ask other slightly intrusive questions. Luckily my friend was chill enough to not take it seriously.

But is that really all to it? Just some guy, saying some slurs and insensitive things in a children's game?
And why do they keep coming back?

LYING
Surprise, surprise, everything that they type is bullshit. Coming from someone who once named their account after the Latin word for "Lie," I mean....

• I don't think anyone takes them seriously, but hey, according to them, they're a
  • Homeless kid (18+) who begs on the streets to afford iaps
  • Ex-model and adult dancer, modelling for "fansonly"
  • Half Spanish, half Japanese and lives in Singapore while knowing little to no Japanese or Chinese.
  • Height varies from 5'10 to 6'1
  • Totally legit player who doesn't use mods
• If you confront 'em about it, don't expect anything unless you have solid proof. Here's them pretending to be their own brother lol
• They also send pictures of "themself" :]

So yeah. From being banned to having a pet, don't expect anything to be truthful. I'm not trying to doxx this person - these were just things they tell people as a part of their character (so you might be able to identify them just in case you happen stumble across them). Though if they see this, they're likely to change it up.

Other things to note is that they mostly wear IAPS, and has likely played since Sky started.

GIRLS
They hit on any girls in sight. It's not a secret that this guy loves attention.

https://imgur.com/a/Rceb4Ln

They claim that they're a fan of Asian girls in particular, especially those who are talkative. They aim for vulnerable people. https://imgur.com/a/hTx9ioG

They also ask for face reveals, and claims they have a collection of them from girls. Unfortunately, I don't have a screenshot of this, but they have said to me they have intimate pictures of many girls, too.

HARRASSMENT, HARRASSMENT AND MORE HARRASSMENT

It's an all ages game, not 4chan or twitter.
LARGE TRIGGER WARNING FOR THE ABOVE. SEXUAL VIOLENCE, DEATH THREATS, OFFENSIVE LANGUAGE AND HOMOPHOBIA.

According to them, they've been hardware banned from skycotl - all their accounts were banned one after another, no matter when they were created.

So, how do I know if these accounts are all theirs?
Valid question. Not only do they exhibit consistent behaviour throughout all accounts, but they use certain key words, after talking with them and observing them, which are not hard to decipher. It's not only me who easily figured it out. Not only did they post an image on the discord (now deleted), then make that image their profile on their other account, but all their timelines line up (one account gets banned, the other starts talking).

Finally, I invited them into a server, saying, "you might want to use an alt." They messaged me about the contents of the server, and from the time I sent the invite, only one person joined. It's not hard to deduce.

Real Talk

I'm not exactly innocent, either. They were a funny person, being nice at first, then saying things that were a cause for concern but not uncommon, as we shared similar sentiments. At times, they would also show some instances of reflection, saying things like "what am I doing, speedrunning life?" Or commenting on their own behaviour.
I hung out with them for entertainment. Hell, part of the reason I'm writing this is also for entertainment.
But I truly believe people like this should not be allowed on all-ages platforms. So I reported as many accounts I could, discord and sky. Unfortunately, as they said, they kept coming back, and are very much still active in sky right now.

If you stumble across anyone like this, don't ignore the red flags. Report them. This is unfortunately only one of many cases...

TLDR: Don't always believe strangers' words, children's game or not. Look out for red flags - they could be a small peephole to their true disgusting behaviour. Don't be afraid to report!

I've probably exposed myself from writing this, but if you're reading, Mikael, I know I can't stop you from doing anything. I just hope you'll think back on your actions more carefully and be able to get the help you need in the future. :]

Not even a month postpartum with her second child, mum Hannah Hiatt posted a TikTok of herself retrieving 17 soiled nappies from around her house after an exhausting day of solo parenting.

But after sharing the video, Hannah was met with a major backlash. Many of the 6.7 million viewers of the TikTok branded her ‘nasty’ and ‘unsanitary’.

Other mothers on the app suggested it took little effort to leave a bin bag in each room or walk them to the kitchen bin.

‘I’m a mum of four and there’s just no excuse,’ one TikToker named Brianna wrote. ‘It literally takes two seconds to throw it away’. Another added: ‘Not once did it ever occur to me to discard a soiled nappy on the floor’.

Hannah explained that, with her husband out of town and having been sick and injured, she was parenting alone and other things took priority.

Since her post, the hashtag #17diapers has been used nearly 18,000 times by other mothers revealed their ’17 diapers’ moments. The aim is to normalise struggling to ‘do it all’ in motherhood, and praising each other just for getting by.

One mum, Jessa, hopped on the trend and shared how she let her child watch six films a day for three months straight because she was bed ridden with hyperemesis gravidarum. Another revealed how she threw away her stained baby clothes instead of washing them, and had 12 bottles because she couldn’t be bothered to wash everything constantly.

You can read more here: https://metro.co.uk/2024/10/21/a-mum-left-17-dirty-nappies-around-house-sparked-a-revolution-21835325/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XD9yySz3dCQ

Now that Asmongold has apologized, which is a contradiction to his stance on not apologizing, - how can he continue streaming/YouTube with the criticism of him being a hypocrite?

Specifically, what is going to be his defense to this criticism given the many apology videos he has reacted to mocking the apologizer with his ‘high pitched voice’ repeating the apologizer’s words in a mocking tone? Particularly, emphasizing the mocking of the apologizer not being actually sorry for their actions just sorry that they got caught?

For context, is his apology actually sorry for his statements or simply sorry that he got more attention/a stronger reaction than he anticipated?

How can Asmongold move forward in defending himself against criticism that he is a hypocrite in streaming/YouTube?

Just found out yung filly is also a predator. I feel like this is the last straw our weight it took for me to realise that 2024 was and is a crazy fucking year. Everything's is creating down on is and everything is not how it seems. It all feels like a fever dream you cant escape to go back to the ignorant joy we used to have.(Sorry for the ignorant rant😅)

With the recent news of Asmongold getting banned, I'm curious what everyone thinks. Do you believe it's just a temporary suspension or could it be a permanent ban? And what about Youtube?

Lots of things were alleged against him consecutively. First being the Ava Kris Tyson stuff, Second being hiring a sex offender, then the beast games stuff. How come they aren't talked about anymore?

I'm sure if your reading this you know who Nikocado Avocado is. He took a 7 month pause and when he came back he shocked the internet with his huge weight loss. I have gotten multiple opinions on this. Some think that his weight loss is fake and he's still the same, other believe he truly lost the weight. Nickado further explains in his video which I haven't fully watched yet but I've watched the first 10 minutes of it. He has created a second channel called Nikocado Avocado 2 if you want to check it out.

In the most recent lawsuit against Combs, filed on 26 February 2024 in New York, producer Rodney “Lil Rod” Jones, alleged he was “subjected to unwanted advances by associates of Diddy at his direction” and that he was forced to engage in relations with the sx workers Combs had hired. Sean "Diddy" Combs was indicted on multiple charges, including sx trafficking and racketeering, in September — and he has a prolonged history of alleged violence dating back to the Nineties. Other things people have guessed was that The song "She Knows" by J. Cole has a part in this case based on the line "Rest in peace to Aaliyah Rest in peace to Left Eye (Left Eye) Michael Jackson, I'll see ya Just as soon as I die (I die)" Rumor has it that Beyoncé got Diddy to get rid of those she was jealous of.(changed for trigger warnings!) Even though MJ (Michael Jackson) died of cardiac arrest I have heard that "Diddy" had a hole to MJ's house but that part of the story is only allegations.

A few years back I started noting down backers who voiced both their regret and their $ spend in comments. These are some examples from the 'Concierge tiers'. (IE those who've spent at least $1K - $25K on Star Citizen).

Here's a video compilation of the posts, set to calming music.

Much of the drama stems from Star Citizen still being unreleased nearly a decade after its initial launch date (November 2014). Many of the macro-purchases these backers have pre-ordered are also incomplete or undelivered. (A heightened example would be the $3K Javelin capital ship, sold since 2014).

Currently the devs are crunching for the annual convention, Citcon, where another $$$ concept ship will likely be unveiled, as this is their tradition.

I think Im losing my respect for him. Yeah, he isn't obligated to post, but it still leaves a bad taste in your mouth knowing how much he praised Mr. Beast not too long ago. Even if he's waiting for more evidence to come out, I think it's pretty damn clear that Mr.beasts silent treatment towards the allegations plus his feastables collab is objectively disingenuous.

I used to defend this decision by saying "he isnt a drama youtuber anymore," but that's clearly not up for debate as of recent. He is an authority figure, and whether he likes it or not, people are going to listen to him. This includes the videos of him praising Mr.beast. he, as an authority figure of a young impressionable fanbase, has a responsibility to be honest with his audience and not leave them with a false narrative that even he knows may not be correct.

Im not saying he needs to expose Mr beast or agree with the allegations, but what he does need to do is at least temporarily address his former statements to inform his audience that what was said may not hold true anymore. Even if he just unlisted the videos and made a small tweet, that would be a step in the right direction.

By all means, he can still say he's waiting for a formal response from Mr. Beast or even the drama to settle more. He just.... yknow, needs to actually publicly state that.

For clarification, I'm aware that p.diddy's allegation so far is allot more serious. But it still disqualifies the narrative that he isn't a drama youtuber anymore.

(Note:If you doesn't know or want knowing this guy,ignore this because i surf in internet not too many people know him.I'm not care if he secretly met you in other accounts for his stuffs such as promote them,i leaving this to see how bad he did in his past)

If you (don't) know this person is,Devin Millar is horrible musician,fraud,dumb,make some kids contents and only using these alt accounts just to botting his social media or talk to you to gain his more fans or stolen idea or his money. When being exposed by nfs community or get banned other social media,he doesn't care and accept their risk and making alt accounts over the years or he tried to being Kris Tyson clone until youtuber talk to him.

About him:(English version are deleted because fraud)

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devin_Millar

Here is proof,his past so far:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Lf-mspa57aJbsc7INTFHkG9e2HE3f32GJpXZKruRlTQ/edit?usp=sharing

Whatever he acting Kris Tyson clone or claiming this thread is false,don't trust them he only make alt accounts wasting time for his life

Some things that I found.

I found 4 videos of the winners of the "Samsung Giveaway" unboxing the phone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7S2E-KvEwU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOnIlqIWcko

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEQRoZPp7TU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcvQk6aysuk

Also some people in some of MrBeast videos are random.

His 3 millionth subscribe.

His 4 Millionth subscribe. (Guess someone got a cookie)

His 5 millionth subscribe. (He defended MrBeast in this tweet)  https://x.com/BradHeat/status/1817840789415751935

His 6 millionth subscribe.

His 7 millionth subscribe. (He subscribed at the right time) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YDD3mNRToQ

The guy who won $1,000,000 in 2019 was random, go ask him.

Also Delaware is his real name. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YDD3mNRToQ&t=635s

With the island, MrBeast gave $1 to the island owner and $27 to The Tax Man, so it's $1.

58 debunked the claims against him. https://www.tiktok.com/@sandig143/video/7408357079125200171

Here's other people debunking some more claims.

https://imgur.com/a/mrbeast-allegations-fact-check-ijzjS3A

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Nq-sBbVjcSDI5wVfo7TfMXK5BedunTdoqi_-SqoAM8M/edit

For anyone unfamiliar with who Creepshow Art is, read page 3. For everyone else, I've been working on this for a few months. Feel free to call me crazy. I do have too much time on my hands. I'm simply recognizing a pattern here. There are over 40 pages of evidence that points to Creepshow Art. Please read the document before you comment. There are a LOT of sock puppet accounts that have been trying to discredit this factual documentation of weird shit that's been popping up in relation to Dreading.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KThUdUUATn9cE4ga9tJ-rRZikCvjbdh1IWC-q_JT360/edit?usp=drivesdk

I reached out to a dozen different contestants from past MrBeast videos, and only one got back to me, but was more than willing to talk and share his experiences with me.

https://imgur.com/a/ijzjS3A

I contacted Jeremy over email, then we moved to talking on Instagram, as seen here. You can also see that I've fact checked a number of the allegations made against Mr Beast right now, and although some are 100% true (the illegal lotteries, the fake signature), many are verifiably false, and it makes me wonder if DogPack hasn't received some absolutely terrible legal advice from his lawyers because some of this stuff can be proven wrong in just a few minutes and a few clicks.

Some of the stuff he got wrong:

• Many contestants are in fact random subscribers who often live so far away they'd have to get flown out, and Jimmy has already spoken openly in the past about not using exclusively random subscribers in his videos.

• The text from the ex-employee saying they think the 100 girls vs 100 boys video was rigged because after the circles were divided no more girls were eliminated for the rest of the game is untrue, you can see in the video one of the girls was eliminated.

• Dawson compares 2 servings of Feastables to only 1 serving of Hershey's to make the case that Feastables contains more sugar and calories.

• Dawson has edited Mack to look like he's stalling when he's trying to safely cross the room with the tiled floor. If you check the original video, Mack doesn't stall at all.

• Dawson said in his first video that you shouldn't believe hearsay, but then his most recent video was almost nothing but hearsay, and some of it has already been proven untrue, as confirmed by Dawson himself.

• Other YouTubers still do illegal lotteries to this day. People simply don't realize that, as innocent as it may seem, randomly throwing something extra into a package with a piece of merch before shipping it out is against the law. LegalEagle did a video about how this was super common on YouTube back in the day, and CaptainSparklez made a video explaining he did the same thing once because he didn't know it was against the law.

• And much more.

I think it's very likely Dawson has received some very bad legal advice and is in major contravention of his NDA. I don't think Jimmy would actually sue because it would seem like punching down and only ruin his reputation even further, but I do think Jimmy will have plenty of ammunition to use when he finally responds, which Keemstar said would be this week.

Thoughts?

I'm not going to provide context here, even though most people have heard of the allegations against Wlibur Soot. If you don't know the context by some chance, look up "Wlibur Situation" and it's gaurantee to pop up.

After all the allegations popped up in February, and after Wilbur's response, I saw it as more or less a confession and that Wilbur was indeed guilty of physically abusing Shelby (Shubble) in a past relationship. As a result, Wlibur was kind of cancelled, kind of not, depending on how you look at it.

However, on another subreddit I found someone claiming that there was a "lot of events" to support that Shelby was lying about everything. I had not heard about something like this at all, and I'm curious if it is true.

Does anyone know about the "events" described that point to Shelby perhaps being dishonest?

(Note: Obviously she wasn't completely lying about it if Wilbur basically said that parts of it were true, so there's that to keep in mind)

Not sure where else to ask. It's been down for around 2 weeks now. What happened to it?

I've been following the Doc situation closely, and after watching his recent stream where he addressed his Twitch ban, it becomes weirdly apparent that at least some DARVO is taking place here.

DARVO stands for Deny, Attack, Reverse Victim and Offender, it's a common strategy used by people when they're accused of something serious, especially when they want to divert attention and avoid accountability.

Deny: Doc consistently denies the severity of his actions. While he acknowledges certain interactions in 2017, he frames them as "mutual" and insists they were harmless or taken out of context. This is despite admitting in a tweet that the messages with a minor were “inappropriate.”

Attack: He aggressively attacks those who leaked or criticized him, especially ex-Twitch employees and journalists. The language used - calling them "rats" and liars - is typical of someone trying to discredit their accusers instead of directly addressing the core issue.

Reverse Victim and Offender: Throughout the stream, he portrays himself as the victim of a conspiracy or vendetta, claiming that others are out to ruin his reputation, while positioning himself as the one wronged. This shift in narrative - from being the accused to the one supposedly betrayed by Twitch - fits DARVO's “victim” reversal pattern.

What's also worth noting is the contradictions in his statements.

On the one hand, he’s suggesting everything was above board and misinterpreted, yet on the other, he admits there were interactions that could be considered inappropriate. This inconsistency makes it harder to trust his side of the story.

He hasn’t yet filed any defamation lawsuits against those who leaked the information.

Why?

Because going through discovery in court would force him to reveal everything, and he likely knows that won't play in his favor. It's a classic case of avoiding legal repercussions by sticking to vague public denials, and trusting in the absolute force of his fanbase to believe everything he says.

The contradictions are hard to ignore at this point.

First of all, I don’t understand what social experiment he was trying to conduct just by deliberately feeding himself into morbid obesity over the course of like 6 years and then losing it all over 2 years behind closed doors. I don’t get the point honestly. Don’t get me wrong, I believe his dedication was absolutely impressive. But what was the point of all of it???

His Drama started in 2019 when he played Overwatch. In his stream that had around 200 People watcher there was one person who stood out. It was a Girl who i will call Perry for Privacy. Perry was stating in his twitch chat that she need food and would trade something for money, that something were explicit photos of her. In that time she was still underaged. Redshell jumped on that offer and went with the deal. His payment was sent through paypal and he revived the other end of the deal through snapchat. He incriminated himself for receiving those pictures at a time where she was considered still a minor. (I dont think i have to explain how disgusting that is.)

There is a good video explaining the old drama of redshell by Kajor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZHoWn1Ber0&t=229s&ab_channel=Kajor

The old drama has been forgotten by his community and nobody ever tries to talk about it. However there has been a new chat of him trying to get the same victim Perry to come over to his place. he tried with the most of his power to convince her to come over to him and spend the night. This is from 2023. (Sidenote if you try to mention anything about this topic on any platform of his, being Twitch chat, Youtube or even his own Discord server, you will get suppressed by his moderators or even himself.

The messages and Audios from him and the victim:

https://preview.redd.it/iy9ubki08mnd1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=edf7708d8eb7e84833ce845a28bae9ac86b77c5e

https://preview.redd.it/jgq0nps08mnd1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=044cd938d231cc55bdc10358070ecd614feaa184

https://preview.redd.it/ger6i8418mnd1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=04a5f815b332ffc95f483233a079567cba76d0ea

https://preview.redd.it/brq1n1j18mnd1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=7691a05b9b3c172d14eebdebaa45315bb8b7b3ab

https://reddit.com/link/1fc2frm/video/y2rlw6428mnd1/player

https://preview.redd.it/i597srd28mnd1.png?width=490&format=png&auto=webp&s=bfc21ba7c73daf2a6cc88c81f3792212b47566e1

https://preview.redd.it/y6x2i8438mnd1.png?width=306&format=png&auto=webp&s=8e5ce2120a54f4ee1b0202c90d92537b2836a8de

https://preview.redd.it/vy662gd38mnd1.png?width=472&format=png&auto=webp&s=8494f303d4a4917e76dd250c708a9d45d830a4d3

he said at this time: https://youtu.be/k5xf40KrK3I?si=mWYLMZjtlMMqaW2w&t=2519

here's the Halloween bundle from Feastable website, and is he breaking NDA since this turns out real?

https://preview.redd.it/6ikysow45lnd1.png?width=1265&format=png&auto=webp&s=e34a4b4cfafbb6d3ac7ca82aacb504d24b73e8c9

btw, why Chandler is not in the main page big picture?

https://preview.redd.it/i2mz78p35lnd1.png?width=1229&format=png&auto=webp&s=50488580066cbdd19bd2ccf74ddffbdce37b806f

Who winning and why