How is everyone doing that went there? I was there for 14 months, failed the trainings within the first like 10 minutes (the first time hah).

hey, hum english is not my native language so im so sorry for all the mistakes.

Recently i saw a lot of things about boarding school for teens, and a lot of about behavior modification program, and dude this shit looks like horrible. So i decided to do like an article for myself and maybe my teachers about this, and i discover that boarding shcool who do that are like still real yk ? but i dont know if it was like the old on, i saw a lot of photo who looked exactly like the old asbusive boarding school, with computers, people who smiled and horses (like the old marketing that they use to do about Elan school and others)

so my question is, is someone lived that after 2010 ? Is some people are still abuse and torture like trouble teens use to be ? Or is just internet who make me too dramatic, Im talking about country like USA or even in america, not all the poor country or country who had normalise child abuse, because its crazy, for someone who like in france and who have a lot of rules about school and child security that's sound just totaly crazy, please respond to me if you feel like you can :)

I don’t really know what to write, since I’ve joined I’ve written a lot on here and I have spoken about my experience in the school I went to a lot. If you want to look you can, it’s posted on here. The school I went to is called The Charlton School.

I feel so lost and lonely and gutted. I feel like I have so many feelings trapped inside of me and at the same time I feel nothing at all. It’s exhausting. It’s exhausting because I try and I try and I try to just take another step and just feel normal, but I don’t even know what normal is supposed to look like anymore. All I know is that whatever it looks like, I fail to have any resemblance.

Thanks to everyone who has commented on my posts in the past and shown support for me because I think right now it’s one of the only things getting me through life. Knowing that there are so many people who know to some capacity what it is like to feel how I feel, it’s so incredibly comforting and important.

And for all the parents of TTI survivors who comment on my posts, that helps me heal the forever thirteen year old part of me that feels so abandoned and hurt, it makes me feel so accepted and supported. Basically, everyone’s support and kindness and understanding is what is getting me through this and why I’m still able to talk about what I’m going through.

I am still having a hard time believing it was real, but it was and you all make it so much easier to deal with that. I love all of you guys, thank you so so much. You’ll never understand how much joining this sub and opening up has done for me, this community means so much to me.

Hi, I'm kind of new to using reddit, I read reddit stories, but I hope I'm on the right forum site. I currently looking for people who have either been to MMA, graduated, were enrolled, left the school. Massanutten Military in Woodstock VA. I'm working on a essay/ video from my personal experiences from there as a female cadet. I also have 6 people currently who have horror stories of the school ranging from assault, sexism, racism, being denied food, forced to advocate for the school, being forced into the military path, being pushed into drugs, coming off of drugs, bugs, mold, free child labor. The only example story I can give at the moment without giving away things from my year and this year is a story about the reason there are cameras in the barrack stairwell. The reason isn't sex, it's because 2 years ago( might be 3 I need to get perfect clarification) a girl was bullied so bad that she was pushed down the stairs, causing her to break her arm. From one thing I witnessed is a Dr. on staff who HAD his surgical license taken away for doing unnecessary surgeries on people, he also is just creepy, saying things in class that are very dated( sexualizing girls), thinks he's always right about anything medical, curses in class (mind you he is a older man and the kids he teaches are from 7th- 12th grade/ PG). I know I'm doing a scary task, I know people will be quick to deny what I'm asking and looking for. But doing a quick google search you can see the second word is abuse, but further digging you can see on Niche the bad reviews are recent. My goal is to get a video published by summer since the people I know who want to share their stories are still enrolled, or have people/ siblings enrolled that they feel could hurt their friends/ family. I want to know if I'm crazy about things I've experienced, and I want to know what it is like for past cadets, if they were pushed into the army, if they went to school during the years Mia Khalifa went there, if they were harmed. I fear the things I've heard/ experienced, and the things my friends have experienced are just the tip of the iceberg.

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Hi, I'm kind of new to using reddit, I read reddit stories, but I hope I'm on the right forum site. I currently looking for people who have either been to MMA, graduated, were enrolled, left the school. Massanutten Military in Woodstock VA. I'm working on a essay/ video from my personal experiences from there as a female cadet. I also have 6 people currently who have horror stories of the school ranging from assault, sexism, racism, being denied food, forced to advocate for the school, being forced into the military path, being pushed into drugs, coming off of drugs, bugs, mold, free child labor. The only example story I can give at the moment without giving away things from my year and this year is a story about the reason there are cameras in the barrack stairwell. The reason isn't sex, it's because 2 years ago( might be 3 I need to get perfect clarification) a girl was bullied so bad that she was pushed down the stairs, causing her to break her arm. From one thing I witnessed is a Dr. on staff who HAD his surgical license taken away for doing unnecessary surgeries on people, he also is just creepy, saying things in class that are very dated( sexualizing girls), thinks he's always right about anything medical, curses in class (mind you he is a older man and the kids he teaches are from 7th- 12th grade/ PG). I know I'm doing a scary task, I know people will be quick to deny what I'm asking and looking for. But doing a quick google search you can see the second word is abuse, but further digging you can see on Niche the bad reviews are recent. My goal is to get a video published by summer since the people I know who want to share their stories are still enrolled, or have people/ siblings enrolled that they feel could hurt their friends/ family. I want to know if I'm crazy about things I've experienced, and I want to know what it is like for past cadets, if they were pushed into the army, if they went to school during the years Mia Khalifa went there, if they were harmed.

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I am the mom of a son I love more than life itself. When my son was 15 he had been emotionally and physically hurt by his father, my husband just as his older brother and myself. Though I always protected my son his dad still managed to break him down. I had hubby removed from home for a year to fix his anger issues. It was a tough year!

In Dec 21 my son had 2 friends over and they without my knowledge used LLS, acid tabs. One of his friends grabbed me when I checked on them because of loud banging around. This teen threw me into my sons bedroom walls a couple of times before my older son rushed in and pancakes the teen to the floor. I was hurt pretty bad..the cops showed up! Three days later based on professional recommendations I flew him to California to attend the Newport Academy. He was very angry about it. Understand he had been using weed, LSD, vaping, using opiods, cough syrup, alcohol for some I can list. I was very scared of his actions and using. Afterwards, he came home (I stayed in a hotel for the 30 days while he was at NA.) He continued to be mad at the world, skiping classes, using drugs and being mad at me. He then became addicted to fentynal on top of using. He lost his two closest friends to fentynal overdoses. That hurt him terribly. He asked to go to another teen rehab in CA. We chose one called Sustained Recovery in CA. I flew him there and asked a thousand questions. I stayed alone in a hotel for 30 days during Christmas. I promised to stay near him. He was treated like pure crap by the house Mgr. (Guy was the disgusting pigs name). I was lied to. I removed my son. We came back to the east coast. 2 months later he went back to using. My heart was and still breaks. I was willing to do anything to heal him. One year later we flew him to Michigan for a rapid detoxification ($12,000.00 cash fee). He was clean for 3 months and went back to using!!! Since all of this he has never really healed and tried to do better. He got through high school because I stayed on top of his teachers. Since then...he has shown no interest. I as his mom, saved up myself to cover college. He won't get serious about it. But did say 3 months ago, he will try(next start date is in January.). He refuses to get any job. I pay for all of his living and health bills. Besides this...due to using Suboxon has caused to date over $18,000.00 in dental expenses for so far 7 root canels and crowns!!!!!!! He still needs $24,000.00 in more crowns!!!!!!!! He is so nasty, cruel and disrespectful to me 24/7!!! I'm the only one trying to help him get ahead but the daily angry outbursts of calling me a b****, c***, fat pig ( I'm not! I'm actually on the thin side. ), w**** (not true nor fair!!) I can't calmly say good morning either an uplifting attitude without him telling me how much he hates me and wishes I was dead!!! Keep in mind I was hus protector never hitting him nor calling him a name ever!!! It was his dad that would tell him he's worthless, a Morin, a loser, etc...Not me! Yet, my son refuses to have a decent conversation or to allow me to help him improve. I bought him a nice used car a few months ago to help him get ahead. While going to buy weed he had an accident and his car was totaled. Nothing we could do. We had no collision on it because a year prior he borrowed my car and another accident running into the back of a truck. O. Top of that 2 years ago...he borrowed my car and he got pulled with a friend and was arrested for weed and not yielding at a turn circle. Plus there was a bottle of fireball he had with his friend in my car!!! I had my magistrate friend help me by not putting an expensive bond on him. To get him home safely. The more I do enduring the daily name calling, disrespect, anger...I can do no right according to him plus everything and I mean everything is my fault daily living hell is killing me. Of course I have to endure how he says he can not wait until I die. I am lazy, stupid and worthless. All from the son I bust my a** daily protecting, providing for and guiding. One more not he could not get collision on his car because of his own doings. To find one company that would give us collision it was going to cost $3650.00 per six months. $ 7,300.00 per year!!! We can't afford that, sorry! Two years later we could technically have $14,600.00 towards another car and give time to remove his points. He sees nothing right about us and says his accidents are all my fault. By the way, the sun coming up is top, my fault. In the mean time, his dad hates him and has no tolerance fir him. I love him no matter what but am the one he berates daily. His dad, my husband, has been diagnosed with terminal Stage IV Metastasized Carcinoid bone cancer. He is dying. Im.so da** sad our lives have unfolded like this. As a peace keeper I am exhausted! So here is my question...WHY DOES MY SON REFUSE TO STOP USING WEED. VAPING. ETC....and get his life in order? Why does he refuse to get a job? More importantly...please share why you guys thinks he hates me so very much? Why did I do wrong? Why won't my son talk to me? How can I continue to pray for him, take care of him...be there 24/7. Please someone tell me why he hates me so much and refuses to heal? I'm scared and have serious health conditions myself. I don't want my husband and me to die very soon and he hasn't gotten stable with his life! I'm in so much pain and I know he is too. Can anyone help me..help my intelligent, handsome musically gifted son?

I read up to just after Joe had left the elan school and was home but I haven't gotten further. Has there been any information on who this Ron was other than a "leader" of the Elan School? I know that it was said he was a drug addict but I didn't know if there was anything more in depth after Joe had left. I was curious because there isn't a ton on this "Joe Ricci" considering that he seemed to be somewhat important to the area if he was running for Governor.

Hi! I’m here as the parent of a very challenging teen begging for help or advice. My kid does not identify as non-binary, but I’ll be using gender neutral language to help protect anonymity.

My husband and I can’t keep everyone safe with this teen at home. They are diagnosed with autism, ADHD, very limited impulse control, anxiety, depression, and more. A lot of these things have been present since very early childhood and are not related to any type of trauma. For example, they have gone through periods of being intensely fearful of poisoned food or attacks by diseased animals since about age 3. It’s gone to the point of refusing to eat for almost 48 hours as a preschooler, we bought multiple requested foods only to have them refused.

They have put themselves, their siblings, and pets in life threatening situations due to either aggression or lack of impulse control. We’re talking literally holding a kitchen knife to a younger sibling’s skin while in a rage, sneaking out in the middle of the night to wander downtown at age 12, and harassing classmates till they triggered a physically violent reaction. No drugs to the best of my knowledge. But some shoplifting and classmate’s parents have threatened to press changes for physical violence.

How do I find a safe place for my kid? I am terrified that I can’t keep them safe and out of prison. I don’t think we are shitty parents as neither of our other kids are like this and I can’t think of any significant differences in how we’ve parented them.

So, do any of you have recommendations for residential programs, preferably in the US? Any other advice on what we can do as parents? What has helped you?

I'm going to therapy. I am wondering what others worked on in therapy post-programming. I'm having trouble maintaining a job, building healthy relationships, and developing a support community. I've struggled with Panic Attacks and PTSD, and overall, I've failed to gain full independence.

What did you work on in therapy, post-programming?

Do to the restrictions of religious parents, I was forced to have a right and wrong perspective. From a young age I saw everything as either black or white. Recently it has also been associated with emotions. Love and kindness are one side of me while hatred and anxiousness is the other. I will randomly switch characters throughout the day, jumping from the lighthearted and kind me to the silent and hating me.

Is this normal?

I went to Redcliffe Ascent in July 2020. There was one day where I got really really sick from the water we had at this one site, almost positive it was giardia or something similar.

One morning I woke up and immediately starting dry heaving. I then had very bad diarrhea and vomiting during the day. My body hurt so much that I had to lay on my back all day and couldn’t move, it was pure agony. Unfortunately, this happened to be the day that the food drop came in the truck, and our site was on the top of a tall ridge that had a pretty steep vertical incline.

When it was time for us all to hike down the ridge to the trail where the truck would come to drop the food, I could not move. I begged the staff to leave somebody behind to watch me while the rest of the group went to get the food drop, but they refused. I lied there for probably 30 minutes pleading with them and telling them I physically could not move, but to no avail. I ended up deciding to push it to the limits and try to move so the other kids in my group could get their food.

As I descended the ridge, I would hobble a couple steps, and then collapse on the ground. My stomach felt like it was going to implode, I had a raging migraine, I was super dizzy and dehydrated from vomiting and the heat, and I was just trying my best not to pass out. I remember screaming and cussing at the staff the whole way down, telling them that I thought I was going to die and that I needed medical assistance and that I wasn’t bullshitting, I really thought there was a chance I’d die there. This occurred the entire way down the ridge, I would hobble/crawl a few feet and then collapse on the ground for a few minutes just looking at the sky and hoping I wouldn’t die.

Eventually we made it to the food drop where the guy in the truck came, no medical attention or checkup/follow up at all, just “here’s your food, bye.” The response they had to my cry for help was “we radio’d base and let them know.” Then I made the journey back up the ridge, and I assume you can imagine what that was like, same deal, but uphill.

For reference, the water we drank from was often cow troughs, which had a lot of algae, insect larvae, and often feces. There was no filtering of the water, no boiling of the water, just scooping up water into our Nalgenes and dropping in 2 drops of bleach.

This has to be child cruelty on some sort of way, I know my parents signed their rights away when they sent me, but now that I am an adult and have thought about litigation, is there any way I could litigate this for financial compensation?

Before people say “this is obviously a fake account or a troll” I created this account just now because I don’t want to use my actual account because I have been a part of this group for over a year- and I would rather not incriminate myself.

Like I said above, I’ve been a part of this group for over a year. On my other account and I had started to step away from posting and engaging because honestly, I felt like this red was not helping me. I understand that what I’m about to post will cause a lot of controversy. And I will likely have nobody agree with me. But I would like to at least try.

I’ve been having some trouble dealing with a couple things that have been going on in this group

1. misinformation

There has been a lot of misinformation specifically on stuff that’s going on with treatment centers. I think a lot of times people just hear stuff or see stuff and they immediately run off with it. I understand this, but at the same time it can be dangerous. For example, there was a lot of misinformation on Magnolia Mills and the police officer in search and rescue dogs there. That could potentially be very dangerous misinformation. There is a lot of also a lot of stuff happening when the hurricane hit. Their top priority was not going to be informing random people about the condition of the patients. I have no doubts that those programs were abusive as I have been too many abusive programs. However, I also know that they will first notify parents about their child’s conditions rather than posting on Instagram… for people to be going on Reddit and TikTok, causing a stirrup saying that these programs are abusing kids by leaving them out in the hurricane without fully knowing the truth is really bad.

2. I really hate this thing that all residentials are bad. If there is a kid that is absolutely out of control, completely violent or absolutely will not stop doing engaging in violent or dangerous (drugs, alcohol, etc) behaviors, how else do you think they will get better? By spreading fear to parents who come on here absolutely desperate because their kids are ODing every day I feel like we are engaging in the problem.

I know I will probably get flamed for this, but I feel like there is some truth in what I’m saying. Not all residentials are bad. Some people need inpatient care.

The last thing is the normalization of violence against staff.

While I was in treatment, I would often fight back in restraints. A couple of times I injured Staff members. I feel awful. Even though they are not the best people- and I will say I even hate some of them I would never wish physical violence on them. I have seen people on this group applaud people for breaking hands- starting riots- and worse. That’s just appalling- and gives these programs a reason for calling us “crazy”.

I’m not saying this in a mean way. I have been to about 10 programs. I have been abused and neglected in all of them. But I do have my own thoughts about all of this

I attended the school diamond Ranch Academy in St. George Utah in 2021 and graduated that same year in July. two years after I graduated in the summer of 2023 it got shut down due to another death of a student passing away under the schools responsibility. due to the massive lawsuit that followed everyone who worked there has this associated with their names from diamond ranch I know no longer have any access to anyone who knows where or how to receive my high school transcript and I no longer have access to them which I need in order to get a job. I just find it weird how no one has proof of how I graduated and anyone who knows about this if you could help or if you have received your high school transcripts, please let me know. Share

I’ve been trying to meet with state legislature to improve the laws in my state regarding the TTI.

It’s an uphill battle considering that many still have no idea what I’m talking about, and it sounds as wonky as calling them up to complain about Doritos in my vaccines. I sound like a conspiracy theorist and I am hyper aware of that- as we all have been at some point, I’m sure.

But I made progress with one meeting because the senator’s staffer loves documentaries, and she had seen the Program.

So now when I write to other senators, I can tell them to have their staffers talk to her. She doesn’t want to tell my story for me, and I don’t want her to. I simply want her to explain what she saw in the documentary, and that my experiences (plus the experiences of survivors of programs in my state) all resemble someone’s story in one of these documentaries. And that those stories need to be heard so that they stop happening to more kids.

I don’t sound crazy now. I sound like an expert, which I am not.

I am just a survivor with the same stubborn attitude and loud mouth that landed me in a program, who found other survivors that ARE experts.

And I’m grateful for the resources y’all provide for those of us who have nothing to lose taking on the TTI where we can.

Thank you.

I’m interested in meeting more people who went to the Approach Home, ran by Family Health and Wellness. I was one of the first people sent there after “graduating” from Elevations RTC. It was generally marketed as the next step from several RTCs and wilderness programs however everybody in there at my time had some past connection to Elevations RTC. I’m interested and connecting to see how it’s changed, what demographics now make up the program, and any human rights violations you have witnessed during your past or present time.

My brother went to the Academy at Ivy Ridge in 2005… he was there for the big Riot discussed in the new Netflix documentary.

Any other siblings out there?

ALSO I went to some kind of Program Camp in California I think in 2005 that was a modal of the big parts of “the program” but tailored for Siblings… I can’t remember any of the details about the place but I’m curious if anyone else went? It was there that I first told another soul I was abused and the program director recommended I write him a letter to let him know how much he hurt me…then she dropped it and never brought it back up. No report or anything else made

Hi folks, I'm in the midst of seeking information on how I can financially support survivors of the TTI/support legal action being taken against the TTI, and I was wondering if y'all could point me to the best organizations/fundraisers to support. I am not a survivor of the TTI, only someone who has been deeply affected by the stories shared by survivors, and it is heavy on my heart that I want to support survivors in the best ways that I can. I suffer from a chronic disability and feel that there is little I can do, but in the future when I am in a more financially stable position I want to do what I can, if anything. I've been scouting around for the best places to lend support for a couple months now, but I wanted to ask in here because I know my knowledge is very limited and it's very important to me to hear from those who've been through what I couldn't even imagine.

Thank you in advance.

Daaaammm crazy i found this page. I was arrested at the eagle point christian academy riot in Lucedale, MS. That shit was crazy. One of if not the crazyest experiences in my life. I was 15 does anyone remember me? I was the punk rock kid who came in with a ripped up bible and 666 written all over it and shit lol. Cadet Morrill please reach out ive only been able to find one other person after i got out waaay back in lik 06 or 07. I remember there was just a single drunk ass nightwatch watching nascar all night drinking beers and the breaker box was right next to my bunk i was there like a month maybe and was like yoooo we should just shut off the power and break shit. One of the best ideas ive ever had that shit was WILD

okay so basically i have been struggling with substance abuse since the age of 14. out of every substance ive ever used weed has been the hardest for me to quit. my mom told me that november 1st if i dont pass a drug test she wants to send me away, she mentioned either wilderness therapy or a horse ranch. i am terrified because i have heard the horrors of the troubled teen industry. do i send myself to a rehab program before she can send me to one of those places? or do i wait it out and see if theyre bluffing. i am scared though as many of these places use the element of suprise and kidnap you in ur sleep.

I am NOT a researcher or journalist, just a community member who wants to better advocate for children suffering from mental health concerns and facing or faced with OBH "therapy".

Hello!

I am not an individual who was placed in OBH therapy, however, I was emphatically labeled a troubled child throughout my life. Come to find out later, it was because I was suffering from C-PTSD and AuDHD, which from research tends to be the case for most kids sentenced to OBH therapy.

Because of my lived experiences, I plan to work very closely with the young people involved in the Juvenile Justice System and the Child Welfare System because I know how important supportive adults are for young people going through some of the hardest shit a kid can go through ever.
So my question(s) is, what ways can third party adults advocate for young people who are facing TTI as non-parents? What tools/resources do you wish the third party adults in your life showed you to help you deal with and regulate emotions? How did words of encouragement, or discouragement, play into your overall self-esteem? And lastly, how do you think policy could either eradicate or systematically reform the TTI? Feel free to also add any more insight that might be helpful as well!

Thank you for responding if you do, I can only imagine the strength and resiliency you all came out with. I'm so proud of you. And if you're a "troubled teen", no you're not, this is objectively the most emotionally intense season of your life, and you deserve to go through it in a healthy and safe environment, not the fucking wilderness. I will never stop fighting for the rights and voices of children to be taken seriously.

I was in an out of inpatient hospitals and therapeutic boarding schools from 2008-2012. My stepmom was abusive and my dad was an alcoholic. Grandparents left me money for college but I continually kept getting sent away for skipping classes due to depression and inability to cope with home life, so that money was used for that. I’ve always felt shame meeting new friends or potential partners and their families, because when asked about my childhood I freeze up and don’t know what to say. I even had an Uber driver who asked me about where I went to high school, and said I must’ve been a real wild child or nutcase if I actually got sent to those places. I almost want to lie all of the time when I meet new people but that’s not great grounds for relationships.

I just wish people would realize that if your parents were deluded enough or desperate enough, or simply didn’t care enough about you—-you can get sent to these places for the most mundane reasons. These places profit off trauma and it never really ends even when you’re out.

I certainly have battle scars from my upbringing and the way I was treated in those programs, but it really sucks when people from the outside looking in don’t understand how these places operate. And go from liking the you that you bring to the table ——to looking at you sideways.

Idk I’ve been struggling with this for years now. And most of my lifelong friends are from trauma bonds we had in treatment. I’m so happy for people who had realively normal childhoods, but the judgement hurts so badly sometimes. Anyone else though? lol.

I remember so many times when outings were declined because our house manager LOST the credit card. Twice. In the moment, it was a joke to all the residents. We'd ask staff members, "Are we poor? Does Daddy Newport not love us anymore?" Then, instead of sticking to regular programing, they'd replace an outing with just doing nails and movies.

A lot of times, they would make staff members login to their personal accounts to buy movie for us? Which is just bad management wise to employees.

It was just weeks of not being able to go off the property and somewhat interact in society that contributed to so much isolation. But it really bothers me that an eighty million dollar company takes in children without being able to accurately provide for them. I'm not saying outings were the most important thing, but it was a promised "freedom" that ended up being declined so often.