Does anyone know any historic or present techniques used?

I’ve also noticed that some people living primitively today, like Lynx Wilden, have hair that isn’t at all greasy. Hers looks light and fluffy. A comb can easily be calved, but any idea how they manage to get their hair non-greasy, in fact having volume that most people would envy. Maybe she uses some modern techniques, but unlikely, and many women in the medieval to Victorian times also managed to get silky clean hair with occasional cold washes.

Thank you!

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1. Do you think it would be humane to genetically engineer humans to not have hands before abandoning technology and civilization? Hands are what makes it possible to make tools and manipulate our environment in ways such as agriculture, building homes and other things that eventually lead to modern civilization. Taking them away would prevent civilization from developing again unless natural selection caused the descendants of humanity to re-evolve dexterous appendages.

2. What makes a meaningless life? If a life of working to survive in civilization and being a cog in a machine is a meaningless life, how is that different than working to survive in nature? Perhaps a meaningful life is not defined by what is mundane in your life but by what is not mundane, such as achievements.

3. If living in civilization causes unneeded human suffering. Could humanity be engineered to thrive in civilization in the way humans used to thrive in nature?

What are their survival strategies and skills? Ive read a little about the San and Inuit but i wanted to ask some people that know more about this. Thank you.

Just as the title says. How do you cope?

I have been thinking a lot about Timothy Leary's famous statement, but looking for ideas on how to manifest the "Drop out" portion. I am tired of buying pointless crap, and see how corporate marketing triggers have taken over our daily lives. At the gym today, it seemed like a strange view of the future, where we are mindless hamsters on wheels. Not sure if we've been lulled to sleep by consumerism or something else.

Interested to hear about changes that you have made in your life to step off of the production line.

I want to learn more about more primal survival methods. Can you guys recommend any books and etc... for it ?

Funny question- how would look like anprim political party in real life? What would be her name, program or manifesto and how would motivate the voters for giving their vote?

Hello, i read industrial society and its future and i’m now reading the silent spring can you suggest other books to read?(sorry for bad english )

Solarpunks want to use tech to reduce pollution to the minimum and without destroying the habitat of plants and animals.

Anarcho primitivists have a similar goal of reducing pollution, habitat loss and problems.

We both agree that tech can lead to problems when it is misused, solarpunks hope to reform the game for a brighter future in harmony with nature, whereas primitivists want to go back in time. Imo, both choices are very rational.

I lean towards solarpunk.

We should be allies and fight against the common enemy rather than ourselves.

We have more in common than not, so we should definitely create alliances.

Hey guys. I'm in the process of joining an IC located in Halifax County VA, near the town of South Boston VA. This is not an explicitly AnPrim IC or anything. However, it does have potential for those with AnPrim values. While one could live fairly primitively on it, I personally see the value in Permaculture/Indigenous Horticulture in restoring this ruined world and making safe havens for wildlife, as well.

We are a cooperative land stewardship group that is dedicated to preserving and enhancing the natural beauty of the land while creating a vibrant and inclusive community where we can grow, learn, live, play, and thrive together. As land stewards, we are responsible for the care and management of the land, including preserving natural resources, promoting sustainable practices, and protecting the environment. Our goal is to break down class barriers, support one another, and have a positive impact on our communities.

It has 200 acres of undeveloped land, some forested and some recently clearcut. There's a river and streams on property.

The founding member, Peter, has anarchist/leftist leanings and seems like a nice/chill guy. The community will be organized around 'Sociocracy' which is basically breaking into task-groups that operate by consensus instead of majority rule. There's no hierarchy among full members, members have equal say in group planning/direction, and disagreement is based on reasoned objections. The membership cost is flexible, around $200 a month. This makes you co-owner of the LLC that the loan is for, and also means the monthly cost will go down over time. You can be a partial/interested member for free.

We use the governance model of sociocracy to make decisions as a group, which emphasizes collaboration, transparency, and continuous improvement. In sociocracy, decision-making is decentralized and power is distributed among various circles within the organization. Each circle is responsible for a specific area of the organization's work and has the authority to make decisions within its scope of responsibility. Circles also have the ability to delegate decision-making to sub-circles or individuals as needed. Decisions in a sociocracy are made using a consent-based process, in which decisions are made only if there are no reasoned and articulate objections from members. This helps to ensure that all members are heard and that decisions reflect the will of the group as a whole.

Sociocracy is a theory of governance that seeks to create psychologically safe environments and productive organizations. It draws on the use of consent, rather than majority voting, in discussion and decision-making by people who have a shared goal or work process.

The other founders are successful corporate types, but also hippies (ie they go to burning man and such, hence them buying this land). They don't live nearby and will likely only visit/vacation for the foreseeable future. Peter is mainly planning things like food forests, camping sites, etc. Peter lives in town nearby, and there's one other person living on the land rn, out of a camper IIRC.

Lastly, Halifax County and the whole region of Southside Virginia has advantages. It's very rural and economically slow, unlikely to be developed or grow a lot ever. The county population is low, 34,022 people over 830 sq miles, or 41/sq, with about a third of that (roughly 9,000 people) being in the town of South Boston or nearby town of Halifax. To the point where the whole region is an International Dark Sky zone, where you can still see the pure night sky. There are also a few state parks in the county, including the Staunton River State Park. It's a very diverse region compared to most of the rural US, as well.

Again, this isn't some perfect AnPrim paradise or something. But it has lots of potential for those seeking to get out of the system and live closer to nature, and have a relationship with the landbase that sustains you. You could probably live primitively on it. You could definitely do permaculture and build a tiny house or natural building. There is the possibility, though unlikely, for differing goals between the absentee OG members and newcomers like me (though it shouldn't be able to be a problem within the IC's rules, anyway). That will also be impossible with more new members, as well. So all this to say, hopefully this is helpful to anyone who is interested in dropping out and providing for themselves naturally. Any questions, feel free to message me or Peter on the website!

http://www.collectivespacesproject.com/

https://www.ic.org/directory/collective-spaces-project/

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I think that in this world, if you build something you enslave yourself to keep it in check.

Changing the world from what it is requires work, and world in turn tries to go back to what it is. It's like a spring. We wind it up, but it unwinds on it's own. That is called work.

We should choose how we live, like ants or bees, trying to create a universe inside another and work to sustain it, or are we free as birds in a world that is what it is.

The bigger the work, the harder it is to sustain it, and I think that humanity already reached it's limit.

How should a person fight a thought, that everything he does at work, will someday just decay, and every achievement we reach, will in the end turn to dust. Or how should a person work knowing, that what he does is a Sisyphus stone, that just wont reach it's goal. It's like you hold a stone in a place, while exerting force, but stone stays in place, for the stone you picked is just too big. It's not even an illusion of progress anymore.

But the fact that humanity is on this path, is proof that human's nature is more akin to the hard working ant, or a bee slaving for it's queen, than to a free and proud bird.

Just think about the fact, that some day people will just stop to do it, and everything will go back to what it really is. And good thing for anybody is that, stone age, is the only stable form of the world

I think the reason for modern people being more alone then ever is because lack of common purpose and danger.

In a hunter-gatherer society people have one common purpose which is survival. Without working together nature was impossible to survive in.

In a modern society, we lack the danger and the common purpose(survival) that brought people together. That's why people are mostly alone in this age.

Of course, this is all an generalization. People are still seeking and finding each other in this age as well. Just wanted to share few thoughts.

We're not going back to being primitive hunter-gatherer monkeys just because you don't like your job. Society and humanity will continue to advance. We're going to space.

As far as we know, the control/use of fire was invented by Homo erectus about 1.5 million years ago. The use of fire enabled benefits for Homo erectus (and ultimately other human species like ours), but also negative consequences, such as large-scale and uncontrolled fires and biodiversity loss, ultimately causing ecological imbalances (short-term and maybe also long-term?). For example, studies suggest that ancient humans caused extreme fires that led to the extinction of many large mammals in southern California around 13,000 years ago. Another example is that according to studies, Indigenous peoples (in particular Native Americans) have long used fire for ecosystem management, wildlife habitat maintenance, and reducing the buildup of fuels that can lead to larger, more dangerous fires. Certainly, fire is/was used for natural selection, in a similar way to the use of antibiotics. So, naturally many new forms of plants with higher fire resistance replaced the plants forms that have/had lower fire-resistance over the years in specific territories. The same happened to animals (see the black fire beetle, spotted owl, antechinus, black-backed woodpecker, and frilled lizards). This co-evolution between Homo species (with fire skills) with animals and plants enabled some new adaptations like higher fire resistance in some animals and plants.
I’m wondering whether overall fire makes our ecosystems more fragile and may be involved in the Holocene extinction. Fire is sometimes required in primitive agriculture, in particular it is often required for shifting cultivation. But fire is/was not used in primitive horticulture.

At the past and current states, is/was the use of fire overall ethical for the entire ecosystem and human species? Or is it just a neutral tool as long as it is used for small-scale contexts? Looking forward to hearing your thoughts.

Edits: the control/use of fire

‘Our yields are going to be appalling’: one of wettest winters in decades hits England’s farms | Farming | The Guardian

does anyone know of any anarchoprim discords?

There are only two cases where technology use can be truly justified in my eyes:

1. Helping the physically disabled. Replanting a lost arm with surgery, creating a robotic prosthetic arm, helping the blind see again, etc.

2. Reducing or eliminating predation in nature. This is just unnecessary and pointless suffering. Hypothetically, with artificial meat there may be a way to let carnivore animals or bugs like mosquitoes from coexisting peacefully without needing to harm animals or humans.

The first case is rare but can be needed at times. All the other use cases seem more like "nice luxuries" rather than some "noble goal". Of course the road to hell can be paved with good intentions. Polluting the environment in the process and doing shady things would defeat the whole point.