/r/BarefootRunning
A community of barefoot and minimalist runners.
r/BarefootRunning Guidelines
1.Be Kind!
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2.No Shoes are Barefoot
Shoes are good! Most here use minimalist shoes and recommend them as excellent tools especially for winter or very rough conditions. Unshod is good, too. But these two things are very, very different. Please refrain from using the marketing term "barefoot shoes" as it reinforces an entirely unhelpful conflation. Check out the links in the sidebar for more information about the distinct and unique benefits of minimalist and barefoot.
BarefootRunning FAQ, Running Wiki, Fitness Wiki
Barefoot & minimalist running: the strong feet collective.
Barefoot and minimalist submissions are welcome here at BarefootRunning.
For a subreddit for only unshod/completely barefoot running, see /r/barefoot.
Possible benefits of barefoot/minimalist running include more ground feel, stronger feet, pain/injury free running.
Barefoot: starting, Professor (video), Ted
Start slowly, your body needs time to adapt to a radically different way of movement. Too much too soon will result in injury, possibly stress fractures or worse. Pretend you are learning how to run for the first time. Listen to your body, if you have pain while running, stop immediately. Going barefoot may change your shoe size (usually smaller & wider), so some recommend unshod before buying minimalist shoes. Run less than half a mile for your first time, and build up gradually, with rest days. You will be sore in new areas due to barefoot/minimalist running, but if you feel pain or soreness that does not go away after a few days, do not run.
Glass is an overblown concern. The soles of your feet will gradually toughen as you slowly increase your amount of barefooting. Be alert and constantly scan the ground for anything reflective, but especially watch out for cars pulling out/into driveways. Run against traffic.
Exercises: dynamic stretching (vid), tabata sprints, backwards running, side box jumps (vid)
Minimalist shoes:
Women's minimalist shoe reviews:
BTR Born to Run (book)
HIIT High intensity interval training
MR Minimalist Runner/Running
TMTS Too Much Too Soon - stress fracture risk
TOFP Top of Foot Pain
VFF Vibram Five Fingers - specify model(s)
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Hi all. My feet have been a little sore doing some running on pavement in some v cheap wide toebox barefoot shoes. I need a transition shoes with some squish but not too much.
I tried the Altra Torin 7 wide but I nearly rolled my ankle just going up stairs due to the softness of the foam and the 30mm stack wide, and also they were still too narrow.
I was looking at the newly released Lone Peak 9+ wide and wondered if they were any better and I have heard the foam is a little more stiff than the Torins so would a little less unstable and although maybe not ideal for roads might still be fairly durable due to the new vibram sole.
Does anyone have any experience with the new Altra lone peak 9+ wide and has it been wide enough for your foot? I have roughly 11-11.5cm width depending where you measure so pretty wide!
Thanks
I am new to barefoot shoes. I am a woman. My shoe size is typically 38 and my feet are not especially wide or especially narrow. Pretty average. I do, however, have somewhat high arches.
I want a pair of shoes that will hold up for a lot of walking and a little bit of running
I live in an extremely marshy area so they need to really hold up with water (the ground does not dry out in the summer, it will always be wet). 90 percent of the year seems to be winter so snow and ice are frequent.
They need to be affordable
As natural as possible given the waterproof constraint
And they need to be durable because I simply can't afford to replace a pair of shoes every few months.
Is it possible in this climate to try barefoot shoes? I am in Europe so it wil be very expensive to order from the US
I think my saguaros saw some better days...
I started trail running and something tells me I might need some better shoes 🤣 I have explored the market, but I can't really take a decision. I live in the UK, it's raining the majority of the time (lots of mud) over chalky soli (not particularly rocky or hard). I can run with low cushioning as I don't mind the occasional rock under the foot, but I need something very grippy on the mud as I can't have my knees floppin around all the time.
I thought about Xero Mesa Trail II or Vivobarefoot Primus Trail III but I don't know how they handle muddy terrains. Any experience you can share with those? Do you have other suggestions?
Hi there!
For reasons I think everyone here gets, I much prefer shoes with a lot of space in the toe box/forefoot area. However, while being fairly broad at the widest point, my back foot area is pretty skinny outside the toe box. Many minimalist shoes are too loose for me there - it leads to abrasions or straight up the shoe sliding off at times.
Because of that, I am looking for brands that are bit more narrow in that area, without sacrificing space in the toe box. I will add, that in terms of everyday minimalist shoes I mostly care about the wide toe box and zero drop, don't care much for ground feel (or event straight up prefer some padding), since I live in a city and walk on concrete mostly. Ground feel still rocks for gym and trail running, but that's a different story.
I live in the EU, so ideally I would prefer something from continental Europe or UK, but I am open to ordering from elsewhere if it's not crazy expensive.
Thank you in advance for any recommendation!
I have some Prios, that I've been using for indoor training. However, I feel the grip is a bit lacking when it comes to outdoor activities - especially on hard surfaces in wet weather.
I really like the fit though, so I am tempted to find some Xero shoes with more grip, and either the Prio All Day SR or the 360 seems to be what I'm looking for.
Does anyone here have experiences with both these shoes - and how do they compare grip-wise? Also, I would think the Prio All Day SR is the same fit as the normal prio - but what about the 360?
What would your guys opinions be on using the vivo trackers for running? It seems like they’re mostly a hiking shoe and they seem durable. I’m looking for a new running shoe and mostly just curious about these because they look cool haha.
There’s a half marathon race coming up near me on the 15th that I’d be interested running. The only thing is it’s a week early on my marathon training plan.
The actual half marathon is the square in red. The original half marathon is the square in blue.
Would it be okay to switch these 2 runs so the 12 mile run is the weekend after?
That would make the week of the 9th 29 miles and the following week 30 miles then my “easy week” the following week just drops back to 29?
So basically the schedule would go:
If I would do this, should I try and run it Marathon Pace? ~9:15 ish? (Current easy pace is 10/10:30 minute miles.) The race is quite f’n hilly though as I know the course.
I’d ask in the first marathon sub but it won’t let me upload photos. I’m also posting in here cuz I run in Vibrams.
I've been doing a few 5k races barefoot and love it! Now this spring, I've got a 8k and a 10k race lined up, both in downtown Chicago.
I might have to pee. There's usually a lot of time between checking bags and starting to run w/these big downtown races. (And it's urban and I'm not a guy, so I can't just water a tree). I've been trying to think of what will work to put over my feet, that are disposable and small to carry. I hate to use socks and then have to either carry gross socks or throw them away.
I know some folks probably just "get over it," but I can't, it's not gonna happen. I know my limits, and my limit=barefoot in a porta-potty. 😆 What do you all put over your feet?
Why do barefoot shoes hurt my feet but walking barefoot feels fine?
Quisiera saber si alguien ha comprado estas zapatillas para niño. Resulta cómodo? Lo puede usar para todo el día en el colegio? WHITIN Little/Big Kid Wide Width Barefoot Shoes | Boys/Girls Minimalist Elastic Opening Sneakers | Flexible- Zero Drop Sole
Hi, I have been trying to run with Pyopp Fledge Ultra sandals for a while now. The longest was 13km run/hike on trails but I wore them for most of my walks before that with no problems.
However, I wanted to wear my running shoes for a long run after that trail session, but it got a little painful in my heels. Is it a common problem when returning from barefoot sandals to traditional running shoes?
Thanks!
hey! i recently got into barefoot shoes, mostly for the wide toe boxes. (i already have pre-bunions, and my mom and grandmother have horrible feet issues, so i wasn’t gonna keep shoving my feet into oval-shaped torture boxes.) it’s been great for my toe splay, and they feel amazing for hiking, any sort of dirt or grass, the clay track at our local park… but good god they hurt on flat surfaces. any time i need to walk longer than like half a mile on a sidewalk or road, i get shin splints like crazy.
i’ve always had a fairly defined arch, and any time i walk on flat surfaces, it feels like it’s getting stretched flat. i assume this is partially bc i spent so many years wearing shoes with arch support, but i can’t help but feel like walking on flat surfaces without any support just isn’t great for my feet.
does anyone have any tips? i was considering getting support inserts just for when im on concrete or asphalt, and then taking them out on grass and dirt. does anyone do that? i tried to find shoes with support but a wide toe box, but there’s nothing truly comparable to barefoot shoes when it comes to wide toe boxes. (especially since i have such narrow feet, so wide-size shoes aren’t really an option)
My question is in case I dislike the winged version: is it possible to remove the wings with no damage to the sole, to fit any other laces? I didn't find this info on Luna's website. (I would buy outside US, so an international exchange wouldn't be an option)
I did see that the wings are installed with pliers, like a clip through the lace hole:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj4Bc9mPsb8 (from 23 to 26 seconds)
So they could be removed, right? Curious that Luna doesn't sell replacement wings directly to the customer: they offer only as a send in service:
https://lunasandals.com/collections/extras/products/wing-replacement-repair-service
I'll leave also this nice video from instagram: wings vs retro vs roots:
Debating on grabbing some Deliberate life designs alchemy sandals or another pair of bedrocks.
I hope to do a lot of road running though I barely run as it is. Also considering Luna Origen 2.0 as I heard they have a long lifespan. Kinda favoring the Bedrocks since it feels like I can strap them down VERY tight making sprinting doable.
Hey everyone,
I suffer from sciatica which flares up when I don’t exercise regularly. I’ve never been able to have a consistent running schedule because of that (I walk several miles a day and go to the gym, however).
I’ve been walking in Lem’s Boulder Boots and they are very comfortable, but I’m fairly new to the barefoot shoe world. My PT recommended I try a barefoot running shoe. Could anyone recommend a shoe for a newbie like myself with sciatica? I want something that will strengthen my leg muscles without triggering my sciatica.
Thanks in advanced!
Hey everyone, I've been recovering from achilles tendonitis after running in my Earth Runners Chronos with Carbon Lifestyle Lace.
I believe the uneven ground and getting a little too excited about running is the main culprit for the achilles tendonitis which I've now fully healed.
It just occurred to me, however, that I can't imagine this kinda thin, stiff lace squeezing down against the achilles the entire time while running is a great idea, achilles-health-wise. It's not like I have it super tight, it's comfortable while walking around and sitting in them, but they are tight enough to not come off while running/sprinting.
I think the fix would be pretty simple - just a bit of a softer, wider lace or perhaps something that just goes all the way around the ankle entirely rather than needing to press down against the bottom achilles/heel area like the Earth Runners design does.
Got any ideas or tips?
I'm searching for boots and shoes that are minimalist style when it comes to wide toe box and zero drop, but have much more cushion than most brands that advertise natural for movement do. This has been very hard to find for me, since every search term I can think of comes up with either traditional shoes or minimalist nothing-but-rubber-soles.
I've been walking and running in minimalist for 15 years now and apparently I was doing it wrong (or pavement isn't that natural) and have degraded the cartilage between my foot bones and caused some mild bone spurs. My doc recommends more cushion but I can't go back to traditional shoes, they're extremely uncomfortable to me now, but I can't do minimalist anymore either without risking foot arthritis in old age.
Basically I want to find a running shoe and a winter boot that makes me feel like I'm going barefoot through a meadow, when I'm on pavement. Does such a product exist?
good option for me around the house on hardwood, my toes get pushed together easily by socks but these socks are pretty stretchy and thick and fit with toe spacers without being tight they are size 6-12 socks from walmart even tho i wear a size 13
good option for me around the house on hardwood, my toes get pushed together easily by socks but these socks are pretty stretchy and thick and fit with toe spacers without being tight they are size 6-12 socks from walmart even tho i wear a size 13
I'm (very gradually) starting off barefoot running (actually barefoot). Legs are feeling fine after a few weeks. The main problem I find is every week or so the ball of my foot will come down on a pebble or bit of debris and get lightly bruised. I try to dodge obvious stones, but can't always see them. Does the pad of your foot become more resilient to this, or is it just part of the game?
I struggled with sesamoiditis (inflamation of the sesamoid, a small bone near the ball of your foot) for a few years. After some false starts getting back into running with Hokas + orthotics, I transitioned to barefoot shoes, which have been super helpful. My sesamoid is feeling a lot better, and now it rarely even gets achy, much less flares up. My guess is, the thin soles/zero drop enable me to make subtle changes in my running and walking to take pressure off the sesamoid.
However, I'm noticing some changes in my right foot (which was the injured one). In particular, I'm developing serious, sometimes painful calluses on the ball of my foot, and some bruising under the nails of my third and fourth toes. This is not the case on my left foot, which did not have sesamoiditis. I think my right knee falls in a bit too when I'm running.
I think this is really interesting, and it seems possible it's showing me either issues that caused the sesamoiditis, or ways I'm stressing other parts of my foot to compensate. My best guess is that when running, I'm striking on the ball of my foot, and rolling to the outside of my foot to push off. Maybe on my left foot I'm striking further back on the forefoot and pushing off from my big toe. These are guesses though. I also have inflexible hips, which, from what I've read, could be a contributing factor to gait issues.
Any advice? I'm interested in how I can correct my gait issues to avoid injury or other resources (any books on gait?) that could tell me more about what's going on. Thanks!
I've been a long time barefoot/ zero drop wearer. I've worn Xero, Lems, Altra and Topos. I never really paid attention to widths until I joined the sub.
I had a hip replacement in December. Because my left hip was bad, I developed plantar faciatis in my right heal.
I feel like, because of the pain, I need cushion while I'm rehabbing and fixing the imbalance.
My measurements are 26cm long x 12.3 cm wide.
I'm looking for winter boots and daily drivers that fit. I'm open to putting in a cushion insole while I'm fixing my issues and I'm open to a higher stack height.
Suggestions?
Hey All,
Getting back into serious running again - i use to run in minimal shoes 8 years ago and enjoyed it. However, I set a goal to run a marathon and would like to plan accordingly- training regiment and shoe wear. In regards to shoe wear, it seems reasonable to believe that I shouldn't expect to do all my runs in my minimalist shoes and that having another zero drop shoe with some cushion would be beneficial for longer runs? Has anyone come to this conclusion and found it useful to have two different types of shoes when running long distances/ training regularly for a long run? I am somewhat heavy, so it seems even more relevant.
If so, what shoes would you say is the perfect duo? especially, what would be a good zero drop cushioned shoe complementary to running in minimalist shoes? Perhaps I am overthinking this, but it seems like it might be important that the two shoes work together in some way.
My details: For Road running, age: 43, 6'1, 218 lbs, wide feet (I split and spill out of the pinky toe sides of "normal" running shoes), history of over training and knee issues (but committed to ramping up steady and slow this time)
Thanks,
-Cupa
I am currently transitioning to barefoot shoes, and am caught in the peculiar situation, that I can no longer fit my old running shoes, while I'm simoultaneously unable to run more than a few kilometers in my barefoot shoes. (I currently have some Vibram and Xero)
Therefore I am looking for some wide running shoes to use in the transition. My issue here is, that the wider sizes of most common running shoe brands seems to primarily widen the toe box , while the midfoot is where my issues occur.
There simply doesn't seem to be any cushioned running shoes with as wide a midfoot as - say - a pair of Xero Prios.
Edit: I think I would prefer >15 mm stack height, but any recommendations are appreciated!
I will still be running in barefoot shoes for the distance, I can handle it. I am also strengthening my foot deliberately on the side.
I would just like to not reduce my running volume by 90% as of right now