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From mildly infuriating to serious crimes - we aggregate only the best, juiciest drama from YouTube.
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I haven't been on Moth's side.. really, ever, but there is so much more than I knew about. I don't like Slime either, frankly, but this is definitely the most comprehensive display ive seen of just how bad it might be. It's like watching shitlord on shitlord crime. (Not that they're on equal levels).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eunBFoTLCo0
context fire did a video exposing this guy for his many scams and stolen games
and the dude has responded by going after his wife
TLDR for those not in the know:
HealthyJunkFood was a channel run by couple JP Lambiase and Julia Michaels for about a decade focusing on food. Recipes, Food Science, Travel, Menu Hacks, etc. Despite JP starting the channel, about a year ago in July of 2023, JP just stopped appearing on the channel. A year prior they had broken up, but continued putting out content. A year later JP stated he wanted to focus on a stand-up career, and Julia promised to explain things in the future, to which she never really did. JP ultimately gave up control over the channel, and now is focusing on his career as a comedian
A year later, and the drama continues. JP via his various social medias has repeatedly painted Julia as being in the wrong, liking various comments in regards to her cheating on him, painting herself as the victim, trying to get over 100k out of him, etc. At the time of JP leaving the channel, fans even took note of several weirdly perverted videos involving different men on the HellthyJunkFood Insta, supporting JP’s cheating claims. Here and there Julia will post text messages in regards to their relationship, but frankly I’m not sure what to make out of it all.
JP’s newest video, while dramatized, does briefly include a police recording where Julia is heard talking about a phone, which is noteworthy given back in July 2023, JP claimed he was literally locked out of the channel. Below I’ll link JP’s newest video, as well as all the other noteworthy videos regarding the subject and private texts that are apparently from JP, which she’s openly been posting on HellthyJunkFood for weeks now.
https://youtu.be/RNlfq0DDTrU?si=wXi82dL-WzkPFD1I
For those not in the know:
Scott Cawthon, creator of FNAF, recently put out a statement defending one of the series’ artists, known as PinkyPills, who formerly made her own comics for the franchise prior to her style being what we see in the officially licensed FNAF graphic novels. At the same token, PinkyPills has been accused of being a pedo for a while now, drawing NSFW images of minors and, for whatever reason, continuing to associate William Afton with being a predator, which many fans dislike.
Yesterday, Scott Cawthon finally sorta addressed the allegations, noting, “she has also made mistakes over the years,” and, “I would still like to call on her when I feel her skills are right for the job.” After making this post, PinkyPills officially announced she was stepping away from the franchise completely, to which many fans applauded given, again, she’s done several borderline pedo-things and has a very weird history of making characters pedos. She’s become friends with actual transphobic, Neo-Nazi, pedos, and defended these things on numerous occasions. She’s also defended her drawing underage characters in a NSFW way, all of which has been throughly archived. I’ll link a thread explaining everything in more detail below
This all leads us to St4tic, who made several posts revolving around the drama, blaming parts of the community for getting mad, instead of getting rightfully upset with Cawthon for allowing PinkyPills to still be associated with the franchise even after knowing all of this. Cawthon is the same man who was caught donating money to racist & homophobic politicians who pushed gay conversion therapy, never apologized for it, and for whatever reason the fanbase still ignores it.
Retweeted by St4tic: https://x.com/kitty_candles/status/1786170567101718699?s=46
https://x.com/st4ticfilms/status/1786375948851404980?s=46
https://x.com/st4ticfilms/status/1786378893890400732?s=46
https://x.com/jonnyblox/status/1786177439753806275?s=46
https://x.com/jonnyblox/status/1786160291861938434?s=46
https://x.com/a_tired_ghost_/status/1786152441718665658?s=46
And if you look through his likes you can tell even further he’s referencing the PinkyPills drama and doesn’t give a shit about what she’s done
House File 3488 would ban making money off of social media accounts that feature children under the age of 14. It passed the House 103-26.
Thoughts?
Anyone know if there's any specific bigname family channels that will be impacted by this? I see stuff about them secondhand but don't really know where any of them are based
I suspect some may know the YouTuber MemeBear who always made videos about Five Night's At Freddy's VHS tapes videos, which was very popular.
But then I came across something that I find very disrespectful.
I think some people already knew about the controversy of Battington (creator of analog horror series "Harmony & Horror") where he added real victim images that really existed in their videos.
Real (Her name was Linda Ann O'Keefe)
Just so you know everything is that Battington had no idea that this girl was a real murder victim in real time and that he deleted the video and sincerely apologized.
His response after he learned.
But I'm not here about Battington, I'm here about Memebear. Because I found his reaction on Twitter (X) at Memebears and it is absolutely sick, meant and disrespectful.
(This picture belongs to another Twitter user who made the same statement)
Memebear probably knew that the pictures were real and he didn't care. It's really such a disrespectful thing for me to say that I no longer support Memebear. If MemeBear had known that, he could have told Battington and he would have deleted the video long ago, but he didn't care. Because what he said is so rude for the real murdered child.
Referring to any creator who's videos average between roughly 40 minutes to several hours. I'm always watching commentary in the background of doing mostly everything, as it's much easier for me to personally focus when I'm multitasking, and I don't really like listening to music unless it has my full attention; so basically, the longer the video, the better for me. The topics I watch range from youtube drama, restrospectives, book/media reviews, media controversy, all sorts of stuff. Politics are never really the focus, but many of the topics do inevitably involve politics to some degree.
Personally, D'Angelo Wallace and The Right Opinion are pretty much tied for me; D'Angelo's healthy confidence is refreshing to expirience and conveys his well researched information in a humorous way, basically balancing the two elements perfectly. While TRO has a much more sophisticated persona, but will occasionally break character for humorous purposes as well, and is probably the best commentator when it comes to the sheer amount of research and genuine nuance he provides in his content on a consistent basis. Both are basically the definition of quality over quantity, and I've been watching them for years now.
Of course there are a lot of other creators I like to watch as well, some more casually than others, those are just my two top favorites; I'd probably reccomend KrimsonRogue most for long book reviews. Lately I've been resorting to watching gaming in the background again though, which I haven't done in several years, but man does watching the same several-hour commentary videos get exhausting eventually..
Isaac Butterfield is an Australian comedian/ youtuber, best known for his videos reacting to Woke/ Fat acceptance Tik Toks, as well as discussing men's issues.
He recently published a book, "Better Man", described as a "manifesto on modern masculinity".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52ws_xmfT5g
In this video, I go through Isaac's various Youtube channels, his attempts to be a masculine role model, and the fraudulent ways he repeatedly deceives his audience as to what a "real man" looks like, all while failing to live up to his own standards.
In all my time in the Commentary Community and even back during the Gamergate Era of Sargon of Akkad, my dumbass middle school self gained some unfortunate lessons until now and those lessons being that cultural fear/war mongering, and signal boosting manufactured nothing burgers/outrage mostly from Twitter really sell well. From talking about movies to video games to anime, to even people having different opinions on certain topics (Like with illymation vs Think Before You Sleep for example). From The Critical Drinker collabing with Ben Shapiro to Nerdrotic recently hitting 1 mil subs, to even Vtubers getting involved against the, "wOkE mInD vIrUs," that has nothing to do with them at all. I just wish at some point that something should be done, but obviously those same people would cry,
or some other excuse for preserving their bigotry like that while having to pander to an audience infested with the worst kinds of people imaginable within their fanbases.
Crazy controversy, but I'm glad that the cases of James Somerton and Timmy2Cents have led to other unreliable figures within the video essay community are beimg rightfully called out and debunked.
Illymations GoFundMe for breaking the lease. donate if you can
Due to the major influx of posts made on this situation thanks to Noah's Video and TBYS original Video being taken down, we agreed this would be the best course of action to avoid overfilling the sub with posts about the drama. please keep all future discussion of this drama in here
Here's a collection of all the major threads On the drama
First 2 threads on the subject matter that go into detail about the drama and TBYS's videos:
First: https://www.reddit.com/r/youtubedrama/comments/1bce6hz/think_before_you_sleep_an_alt_right_grifter_made/
Thread talking about the commentary channels joining in and just taking the sides of TBYS: https://www.reddit.com/r/youtubedrama/comments/1bq7x70/commentary_channels_now_join_into_the_drama_of/
TBYS making a third video on the drama. this around the same time illy got doxxed: https://www.reddit.com/r/youtubedrama/comments/1bt7vmq/the_drama_continues_he_says_as_he_makes_a/
TBYS's Apology on how he worded his fashion Critique: https://www.reddit.com/r/youtubedrama/comments/1bu14rv/think_before_you_sleep_posts_an_update_about_the/
Noah Samsen's Video going over the lies, bullying, and priming of TBYS's video. also explains why illy had to make a gofundme: https://www.reddit.com/r/youtubedrama/comments/1cf9u37/video_essayist_think_before_you_sleep_falsifies/
TBYS's video being taken down from youtube and his general reactions to that and the video from noah samsen: (update the video returned but the top comments are about how he lied so lmao) https://www.reddit.com/r/youtubedrama/comments/1cfvvht/update_think_before_you_sleeps_original_video_on/
TBYS explaining why he made illy's argument look worse in his video: https://www.reddit.com/r/youtubedrama/comments/1cfv8iw/update_video_essayist_think_before_you_sleep_has/
Omni's recent coverage of the drama that made a lot of people mad at him for not even watching Noah's video before hand while reading TBYS's response to said video: https://www.reddit.com/r/youtubedrama/comments/1cgf3dh/omni_makes_an_update_to_the_tbys_illymation_and/
Omni Stream where he ended up watching the stream but later deleted it: https://www.reddit.com/r/youtubedrama/comments/1cggovx/yeah_im_so_glad_i_unsubbed_from_drama_commentary/
Omni deleted the stream and that part of his video for failing to properly cover the drama: https://www.reddit.com/r/youtubedrama/comments/1cgqylb/omni_has_deleted_his_stream_covering_noah_samsens/
DISCLAIMER: I’m not saying that harassing or threatening her safety was right. I’m just saying that some of the criticisms were correct.
I’m a fan, I’ve paid for her Patreon, I’m not trying to be bad faith
A few weeks ago I was remembering how Contra started hanging out with Theryn Meyer and how weird that was.
Theryn was at the very least nazi adjacent. She used to hang around Lauren Southern, was a Trump supporter (despite being Canadian), made xenophobic comments about Latino immigrants, tried to prevent along with Jordan Peterson pro trans legislation, etc. Like, at some point Theryn was quite literally worse than Blaire White.
Now that I’m grown, I can see were some of Natalie’s critics were coming from and that’s not being parasocial. It’s weird to hang around and work with someone that not even a year prior was talking about building a wall to prevent people like me from coming to America.
I’m not saying Theryn didn’t deserve space to grow. I just think at the time, doing so publicly was unfair to the people affected by her behavior.
I think that the “Angel Buck” situation was just an escalation of Natalie aiding in the rehabilitation of certain transphobic people, even when they didn’t fully deserve it. This doesn’t mean that harassing her was okay, I just don’t think that “she was cancelled over a 10 second voice over clip” is a fair characterization of the situation.
Since her Canceling video, criticism of Natalie is near impossible to make. People think that anyone criticizing her is that caricature she painted about her critics.
Anyways, all that was on my mind. I need another job probably.
Went to sleep planning to watch the stream in the morning and woke up to it completely gone
Omni is a dramaterry channel who focused on giving his opinion on the dramas, tho leans to attempt to be apolitical
He's already has 2 videos and a live stream on the illymations drama, all taking the side of TBYS.
Since the Noah Samsen video came out and is being talked about a lot, and that TBYS's original Illymation video was taken down, it's clear that this drama has to have an update.
So Omni decided to cover the drama, but instead of doing actual research, he just brings up how Noah made a video before reading TBYS's post on the video and getting his video removed.
This obviously piss a lot of people off, because for starters, it's Omni's job to be on top of this stuff properly, so him admitting to not caring is a sign he might not be the best person for this, but also the fact that TBYS is clearly not a reliable narrator in general, and especially not on the video.
he would later release a comment explaining that he doesn't want to be on this drama because it seems endless (gee, wonder why noah made the video, can't be in the first minute where he explains how the drama is still effecting illy) but he might now consider watching the video now that people in his comments have told him to, but still on the side of this seems to be a bad idea.
edit: HE'S NOW WATCHING THE VIDEO ON STREAM BUT HE IS CLEARLY LOOKING AT IT IN A NEGATIVE LIGHT
I'm obligated to provide context for the rules of this sub so uhhhh, watch Noah Samsens newest video.
Ok back to my steaming hot take, there's a million channels like him, all he's doing is just regurgitating the formula and content style of sargon of akkad and somehow making it even more sloppy and lazy. I remember patricia taxxon making a video about rags, a former shitty alt right response channel who is now currently a frequent guest on the EFAP podcast ran by mauler, and like, it's the same shit dude, just without a memorable rantsona or anything remotely Interesting about them.
Also to be honest, I disagree with Noah's point that TBYS didn't intend for any harm to come to ily, the entire point of the format he's using is to spout stochastic terrorism, which will always Inevitably lead to violence, he knew what he was doing, pretending that he's just stupid and not aware of the harm his content is causing rids him of accountability for his actions.
The Rosa Rey Ramsey video was released almost a year ago. How come it's only within the last few months people started talking about it? Was there a creator who sounded the the alarm that this wasn't acceptable? Up until recently, if you look back at Lio's old videos, they're nothing but positive comments.