https://www.reddit.com/r/shortscarystories/comments/1bpw5r7/women_should_know_their_place/

A fairly popular story by u/ ForgottenWell was repeatedly taken down by an inactive moderator whose reason is that it violates rule 11 and the story is poorly composed, while the other two moderators dont seem to have a problem with it and think that the story is acceptable. The author of the story is now going on a hiatus as they don't want to post stories that will be taken down due to their controversy https://www.reddit.com/r/ShortScaryStoriesOOC/comments/1bvsqzm/taking_a_hiatus_from_short_scary_stories/

Members of the subreddit believe that the mod took it down because it was pro-choice but it has not been confirmed. The inactive moderator had come out of retirement specifically to take down the story, and has now stripped the other 2 mods of their powers and now they can only answer modmails.

[First time writing these, do tell if i can improve it]

These topics will cover 'free speech', moderators vs unmoderated subreddits, pro/anti racism/lgbtq, etc.. If I say anything more, I run the risk of being unbiased in my writeup so onto the popcorn.

Starting with r/mtg Full Comments:

Kibler accused the haters of being perpetual victims that focus on their anger. Freemagic weirdos accurately pointed out that the people "on his side" of the argument are constantly complaining about being victimized and constantly angry. You read that response and go "gee golly why are freemagic so mean". Do you understand why people might think you're kind of an intellectual infant?

Not to me, more to everyone who is slightly different. I talked once about how lgbtq people should be treated as humans, and got 20 downvotes

How is this getting downvoted? Acceptance of racism is racism. Acceptance of homophobia is homophobia. Acceptance of transphobia is transphobia.

There's the problem. Your lot's definition of those words is often so loose than even a mild joke brings out the mewling shrieking "you're XYX-phobic" crowd.

Hard nope. That 'vocal minority' is everybody there. Every last person. Why? Because you think what they are doing is okay.

Delusional. I value free speech over politically-charged moderators that dish out bans to anyone who doesn't align to their specific views.

Now onto r/freemagic Full Comments:

They're right and the fact you have to cry and post about them really drives it home. You all are the most sensitive maladjusted pieces of shit on the site....

I’m half middle eastern living in the United States. Literally a minority. Goddamn. LMAO

😂😂🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣

well theyre right. you are absolutely disgusting people

Yet here you still are. Thanks for being a fan.

I wouldn't be seen dead on the main sub and I'll level with you - I haven't participated in Magic since the late 90s,

So in other words you spend your time being outraged about a game you haven't played actively in over 30 years...? Amazing. You guys are genuine buffoons on this subreddit.

A good amount of this subs post are twitter posts man it's not any different

We think they’re poo poo heads. They think we’re subhuman scum.

Reads obviously absurd comment this has to be real and I'm upset!

It's obviously the first day on the internet for many many people.

Oh man y'all are being ironically racist? How original, no one has ever done that before

The main sub is just as full of special snowflakes if not more so. The "activism" there is suffocating, freemagic is free.

Free to be racist and transphobic pieces of garbage?

Are "homophobia" and "queerphobia" different?

LGBTQ people who are online as much as the average Reddit user are the most imaginative victims in the world.

Everything is racist or hateful.

Or maybe, bear with me now, a society born in slavery and bigotry actually has a lot of racist and hateful artifacts and you are actually just a piece of shit.

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Main Post:

Fight back against 20,000 asylum seekers and refugees moved out of hotels - and into private rented homes: Furious residents in Teesside, Hull and Bradford warn 'scandalous' Home Office plan to buy up properties will create 'mini ghettos'

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Comments:

Can you imagine British migrants illegally entering Japan, tearing up their papers and passports to obfuscate their identity, making up blatantly fake asylum claims, instantly getting black-market economy work as gig economy workers, drinking alcohol in town centres and harassing women, committing petty crime, and then being housed indefinitely in hotels and then moved into privately rented homes (at a huge cost to the Japanese taxpayer). And then imagine that Japanese people who complain about this state of affairs are accused of racism and ostracised.

Clearly a majority of British think they are doing the right thing and “saving” these people. We have developed this bizarre hero complex as a society. It would be much more sensible to help improve infrastructure and education in these countries to improve overall quality of life.

We did this. It was called colonialism. We built trains, roads and infrastructure and we're quite clearly told to fuck off. We should just let the 3rd world fend for itself

The reality is that colonialism did increase the ability for a lot of third world countries to develop themselves after we left. It was of interest to the colonialist countries to create the infrastructure in the colonised countries as it benefitted the colonialists as well as the people of the country. It brought economic benefits for the colonised countries as well. Even in India they recognised the benefits that the British colonialist rule brought. It’s just become edgy to blame colonialism for ruining countries when in reality if they were not colonised they’d still be hugely undeveloped.

We didn't do it for that, but living standards were raised during the period of colonialism for sure. A win win scenario did exist, even if this uncouth to say that these days

There were obviously some benefits to areas that were colonised. I would make the arguments the positives outweighed the negatives of colonialism, but can understand arguments against this. But to say there were literally zero positives is modern ideology ignoring reality.

Without colonization the inhabitants of North America, Australia or New Zealand would live the same lives today as those indigenous tribes in the Amazon. They were literally living in the stone age when the Europeans arrived. They got 6000 years worth of progress pretty much over night. They didn't even have a written language

A lot of academics argue it is

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Insanity. British-foreign couples often can't live together with the draconian and extortionate visa rules, meanwhile they're literally buying houses for illegal immigrants and refugees. Time to withdraw from the refugee treaties completely.

You're blaming the wrong people - it's not the fault of the asylum seekers that British-foreign couples can't live together - that's an ideological choice made by our own goverment. We're being told to blame the "migrants" for all our problems (and lack of affordable housing is a classic example of this) when we should be looking at why our government has been ignoring the problem of housing, low waged / insecure work, access to services as an ideological choice for the last couple of decades (at least). Don't fight to take away the rights of asylum seekers, fight to increase your own

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Meanwhile I've been waiting for 10 years for a council house with an extra bedroom so my kids won't be overcrowded. I'm getting radicalised.

You don’t matter. You never have. Your kids don’t matter either. The only people who matter are the ones who break the law and illegally enter the country. They rape women/children, and we let them stay. They murder and we let them stay. They’re causing our NHS to crumble, our houses are unaffordable and none of that means anything because that’s exactly what the government wants. Tories caused this, Labour won’t fix this, and those are our only two options. Your vote means nothing.

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God's favorite princess Shadowheart and an appreciation thread for an edgier look for her turns darker than expected as users start arguing about what 'butch' really is and that her look isnt butch enough

https://www.reddit.com/r/BaldursGate3/comments/1c3rd9e/i_turned_shart_into_a_butch_lesbian/

OP mods Shadowheart (one of the protagonists who has a traditionally more elven and clerical appearance) into a brooding smokeshow. However, some users disagree that this new look is very butch, and arguments ensue on how butch a lesbian really has to get in order to be called butch

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"so all masc lesbians look like they run a mcdonalds like the navy? good to know granny"

"You guys don't know what butch is if you think that's butch... 🫠"

however, some do find her quite butch...

(Shart is now the butchest girl Twitter can handle before they get scared.)

things turn nonconforming...

The pivot to insulting appearances. when pushed into a corner, she reveals what she really thinks of gender non conforming women

butch varies depending on generation

Funniest part of this post is going to OP's profile and seeing that she's 20. Yeah, I suddenly understand why you think this is butch lmao

commentary (and gatekeeping) from the butches themselves

is this satire? i am so sorry but i'm a butch lesbian and this is just. a more edgy femme. butch has a meaning not just a slightly tomboyish but still feminine woman. like the goth argument doesn't work here either being an industrial goth butch myself lmao

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mostly week old drama. You know the rules 😉 some of the real good comments got deleted 😔

Background

"Kill Tony, a live podcast taped in Austin, Texas and all over the world. Featuring Tony Hinchcliffe & Brian Redban and the band with huge celebrity guests." - Youtube channel description

The comedy show has been going on for over 10 years now, and takes place in the Comedy Mothership, a club owned by world's most famous podcast host and terrible comedian Joe Rogan. The show prides itself in being able to make comedy out of everything - no topic is off the table, no language will be policed!

The format is simple: Tony, Redban, and a couple of guests (usually celebrities or comedian friends of the hosts) sit at a table. Tony pulls papers from a bucket where aspiring comedians put in their names and calls them up. The performer has 1 minute to deliver a piece of standup, after which the table interviews / praises / roasts them. There are also several "regulars", comedians that appear every week to deliver their freshest minute of standup.

The characters

r/Killtony - the main subreddit for the podcast. Discussion takes place throughout the week about episodes of the past, present and future. Most posts are people complaining about episodes / guests / performers. Commenters usually try to replicate the quippy oneliners and comedian mannerisms that occur in the show, referencing hot topics such as Tony being a closeted homosexual or who really won the Mexican drum-off. It is possible the sub has been referenced on the show (though they were referred to as just "reddit" so it can't be fully confirmed) for complaining over things such as regular Kam Patterson repeating jokes, or the decision of regular Hans Kim winning the NYE battle vs golden ticket winner from Europe Ric Diez.

Tony Hinchcliffe - the head honcho of the show. He roasted Snoop Dogg once and got into some internet hot water for saying a certain anti-Asian slur (this is especially funny given how freely other slurs are thrown around).

Tucker Carlson - human garbage right wing political commentator who got canned by Fox and does his own thing on TwXtter now or something.

Pre-release drama

Episode 658 was set to drop on 04/08/24, featuring guests Tucker Carlson and Joe Rogan. After a sneak peak gets posted on social media, drama on r/Killtony begins to take place before the official release: Pre-release thread 1

[Tucker Carlson is on record as anti immigration, which is code speak for racism which is text book tribalism.

Hes also vocal about downplaying the existence of systemic racism, which is a thing, and also sows tribalism. He also has polarizing views of PC culture and cancel culture. Read in between the lines my friend. If people like tucker Carlson were in charge, that would embolden racism and tribalism, by allowing the use of all language such as real hatespeech. Hate speech is a thing. As a white guy myself I feel its important to recognize that Mexicans and blacks are indeed valuable members of society save a few bad apples. If it were up to him we'd be using racial slurs at them, locking them up, deporting them all. Those are just two examples. Dude was on TV saying the most inflammatory shit for a decade. He's not for the people. There has to be a more nuanced approach.....](https://www.reddit.com/r/Killtony/comments/1bylqom/tomorrow_will_be_epic/)

Cry moar

Gotta stand up for the Mexicans and blacks. Tucker sucks.

Oh the racismzs… GFYM

Ok snowflake ❄

I think you have it backwards melty

Can’t wait for Joe’s annoying laugh and overall useless, unfunny presence.

Joes fucking great and hilarious. Happy he’s gonna be on the show

Dude sucks on KT every time. In the running for worst multi appearance guest

According to who? Some lefty?

Just some guy with eyes and ears. Not everything is political you dork

Liberals punching the air right now.

Nah liberal and can’t wait to watch here

nah they can’t wait to bitch and complain, that’s all they’re good for

I literally just gave you the example of a lib that enjoys it all. Go ahead and ignore it though lol

enjoy the show

The weirdo liberals already losing it

Fr 💀

Do the libtards know that Tony doesn’t really side with them on most parts? I mean we’ve heard him crack little snarky remarks regarding Covid, trans, etc right?

Who the fuck cares? Actually, though? He's a comedian. Separate the human from the celebrity. Laugh or don't. He'd clown on any nerd white knighting for him here in an instant.

I’m not really a liberal but Tuck is such a pussy pos. Haha.

Nope. If you say that you're obviously a purple haired gay soyboy cuck liberal who is literally crying because you saw a screen cap of Tucker Carlson and you're triggered by a real male American. /s

You sound Trans

You read like you have ears for eyes.

DUDE COMEDY IS ONLY POLITICAL IF YOU'RE LIBERAL LMAO

That's objectively not true lol

It is true actually

How? Plenty of right wing comedians out there.

Because getting butthurt by politics in comedy is just gay. Jokes are jokes if they hurt your feelings you came to the wrong universe

[Continued]

Okay...that's not what was being talked about.

Tucker Carlson being accepted as a "cool guy" after profiting from the harmful spread of disinformation because "it's cool to own the libs" is fucked up

lol cry moar Tucker is the Goat! You can’t use cool and libs in same sentence plus no one say that. It’s just gay.

Liberal tears 😍

A new spicy thread appears, a defence of Tucker - from a Biden voter no less! Full thread (now deleted). "Some of you are addicted to politics"

Welcome to Reddit. And also tbh the fact that KT invites anybody they want and not giving a fuck about what internet or this dogsht redditors say makes me love the show even more.

Tony is doing it because he KNOWS it will get people up and talking about it. The fact that you think he doesn't think or care about the talk he'll get for it is hilarious. It's a good business move for press. Tucker Carlson is a permanent squint faced traitor to the country, though. Should be a good episode. Also, don't call yourself dogshit.

“Traitor”

Ok gaywad

This sub is 100% complaining about comedians and guests, but suddenly calling tucker a bitch is off limits I guess.

Right wing snowflakes are offended people think Tucker sucks.

Meanwhile left wing snowflakes are offended by… everything else.

Edit: and without an ounce of self awareness, they proved me right.

Coming from an outside perspective, all of you are outrageous snowflakes. It's actual fucking comedy at this point. It's the spiderman meme. "No you're offended by everything!", "No I'm not, you are!!" Jesus christ it's embarrassing.

I really don’t care.

You certainly seem to, even editing your comments 😂 snowflake

I think the rub for many people is the normalization of a kind of abhorrent human being.

Exactly. It's a spectacle for views to them, but Cucker Tarlson has irreparably harmed this country and continues to do so. Kill Tony has a show to put on, sure, but parading this abhorrent POS for views is pretty sad.

All these MAGAt cucks in here saying "herrr derrr freedumm to do whatever they wanttttt wahhh" yeah dumb fucks, and I have the freedom to call out their bullshit and criticize the fuck out of their poor decisions.

So don't watch? Like it's really not hard.

You’re posting an immature, dumb view on a public forum, and you don’t expect responses? 😭

Woosh

[Continued]

No, I think we get it. Preaching about the “harm” someone has done to the country on a comedy forum? Especially when that harm is what? Saying shit you don’t agree with?

Interesting cross to bear.

Yeah I would say spouting off Russian propaganda to your brainwashed supporters falls under the "harmful to our country" category

Now hold that same standard to every talking head on MSM.

Make sense? Like I said, I don’t like Tucker. I think he comes off as fake and I wouldn’t be friends with him.

But all these people pretending like he is the problem with society meanwhile they’ll bow at the alter to some other shithead whose only difference is being on the other side of the aisle.

To each their own I guess.

You’re dumber than a box of Kams rocks.

I don’t like Tuckers politics but he’s interesting on podcasts for sure. His podcast with Theo as a guest was pretty funny. People paint him at being WAY worse than he is. In fact, he’s a pretty normal guy lol.

Hitler loved art and the opera. I don't like his politics but he was a pretty normal guy too. I wish KT could have had him on

🙄

Bro what

My guy…Hitler was a murderer of millions of people. Tucker is a ex-Frat boy type guy who couldn’t hurt a fly. You need to go to time out and think about what you just said.

Ok yeah theres a huge difference but saying “who couldnt hurt a fly” is some parasocial weirdo shit considering you don’t know Tucker, you just take in whatever media persona he’s presenting you.

I’ll take the he’s a pussy viewpoint over the he’s Hitler view all day. Is he capable of hurting someone? Everyone is I guess of you out it that way but he hasn’t done anything to indicate that he would. It’s a silly thought to have about a reporter/media personality because you don’t like the things they say or believe in. Compared to fucking Hitler…he is harmless

I mean, he openly preached white replacement theory nightly on network television. I would say that’s a pretty big indicator he’d hurt someone for personal gain lol he’s on an obvious “oh he’s a guy I’d actually have a beer with” PR run to appeal to a younger demo (theo podcast, etc). I’m not saying don’t watch and enjoy the episode for what it is, but saying someone who has backed some radical/dangerous beliefs wouldn’t hurt a fly is pretty ignorant and plays into a known grifter.

Another registered democrat makes a thread, calls people "overly-sensitive pussies" Full thread

Post-release drama

The episode releases and... not much happens. Posts are made saying the episode was ok, that Tucker was a normal guest, as well as reminders that guests could always be worse.

A thread does get posted about the guitarist of the band making gestures towards Tucker. This reignites the lib vs con kerfuffle in the comments, music edition!

"I would rather listen to gojira and suck a dick than listen to you at all."

Good flair material!

Seems like everyone vented their feelings before the episode, watched it, and moved on... except a week later a thread gets posted posted about the guitarist of the band making gestures towards Tucker

Looots of comments to pick from in this one. I'll highlight one battle:

Why do you have a five year old account and only comment on Tucker Carlson

this is an old porn account. hence the name. its used specifically to jack off and to make fun of you dorks you got that link to where tucker "called for Trump to take back power at the insurrection"? id like to see that in full context, why dont you be so kind as to show me that

How sad.

Is that was you’re going with?

Using the internet to watch porn and pick fights with randoms about things you don't know about isn't sad?

[Continued]

It’s Sunday. Don’t get all mad. You still haven’t provided any of those clips of Tucker doing and saying the stuff you said he did.

Look at you. Who is getting mad? You're the one with dozens of comments defending a full grown man like your mouth is his cock holster. Evaluate your situation.

and you take that as me being mad?

what about the posts ive made come across as mad?

most of them are bad jokes about how fuckin retarded you guys are. the others are asking people like you to back up the dumb fuck things you say lol.

All. On. Tucker. Carlson. Posts. It's definitely a normal and rational behavior. I wish you luck in it.

This is two-day old anime drama. Here's the thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/Naruto/comments/1c2afpw/sakuras\_suffering\_in\_boruto\_is\_not\_acknowledged/

OP basically posts about one of the main canon couples and how Sakura (the main female lead) is not happy with Sasuke (the rival/deuteragonist of the show) in the sequel.

Anyway, the prevailing opinion in the thread is that Sakura is unhappy and needs a divorce. However, one user disagreed and insisted that people are projecting their feelings onto the character. They also accuse the people in the thread of being "incels". So they were showered with downvotes. Then start arguing with the other users on whether she's happy, and the other users demand a divorce.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Naruto/comments/1c2afpw/sakuras\_suffering\_in\_boruto\_is\_not\_acknowledged/kz8xxax/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Naruto/comments/1c2afpw/sakuras\_suffering\_in\_boruto\_is\_not\_acknowledged/kz8y38s/

> But she’s happy with him, stop the incel mindset [-130]

> This entire post literally presents the opposite. Stop trying to justify female oppression. [-60]

OP argues it doesn't matter how Sakura feels, since she is written by a male author.

Other users demand that Sakura divorce Sasuke, and they get into a very heated argument.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Naruto/comments/1c2afpw/sakuras\_suffering\_in\_boruto\_is\_not\_acknowledged/kz9qx9q/

> I feel like you're the incel here buddy. She is unhappy with that man but for some reason - be it pressure from the society or her own incapability of voicing herself - she hasn't divorced yet. She deserves better. Sasuke is irresponsible and incapable as both a husband and father [+16]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Naruto/comments/1c2afpw/sakuras\_suffering\_in\_boruto\_is\_not\_acknowledged/kz9qx9q/

Also in case no one is familiar with Naruto, it ended almost a decade ago and this isn't even new content.

The rules are simple: Series with the highest upvotes gets eliminated.

Day 1 and day 2 are both relatively civil. Day 1 is where the vote is introduced, and in day 2, BeyRaiderz is kicked off.

However, on day 1, OOP admits the following:

I just want beywheelz to stay as long as possible 😭

It's worth keeping this in mind.

#Day 3

##Metal Fury, the third season of the Metal Saga, is eliminated. People are getting suspicious.

Bruh this is getting skewed at this point

OOP: howso

Because people know your a beywheelz fan there’s no way beywheelz outlast metal fury

Wait how did Metal Fury get voted out? I could swear Beywheelz was the most upvoted.

OOP: if you check the last post the guy with most upvoted comment changed his comment to metal fusion then later changed it to metal fury I probably shouldn't allow that from now on

You can change it back

OOP: change what back

Change it so Beywheelz is out instead of Metal Fury, you know that’s the one that was actually voted for the most.

OOP: me coming back to this post after getting another raged comment of metal fury getting out

What did you expect to happen?

You knew that the Metal Fury comment was only because one guy changed it from Beywheelz and that was the one everyone wanted out.

This round, OOP's added in a rule change: The series in the most downvoted comment gets eliminated.

OOP: Read check time to switch it up most downvoted series is out from the single most downvoted comment

#Day 4

##Beyblade Burst QuadStrike is out. Predictably, no one noticed the rule change in the last post.

How is Beywheelz still in the running?

Cause this whole thing is not really handled well at all. Beywheelz is only ongoing because as far as Im aware, when Metal Fury got eliminated someone pointed out the original comment got edited to metal fury so it got out. The. OP didnt fix it and even in these comments debates if editing comments should be allowed and well, make of that what you will

No way quadstrike got out before beywheelz 😭

OOP: I mean quadstrike is actual garbage

Another rule change is added.

OOP: This round the highest upvoted series is saved from elimination next round, the 2nd highest upvoted series is booted out, and the top comment chooses how next rounds elimation works

#Day 5

##Beyblade Burst QuadDrive is eliminated. Again, no one noticed the rule change. People do not take well to the revelation that BeyWheelz is now immune for this round, due to it being the most upvoted.

hell nah how the hell is beywheelz still in, they clearly had the most votes

OOP: I already said beywheelz was immune this round cus it got highest voted. Are yall just voting beywheelz out of spite 🤔

lmfao this hella rigged 💀 beywheelz should’ve been out by now

OOP: i geuss you can say beywheelz has plot armor its been in the top 2 highest votes since round 1

round 1 beywarrios had the most votes byfar

round 2 the only reason beywheelz survived was because someone was indecisive and used a random number generator to pick between beywheelz and quadstrike making it so quadstrike got the votes instead making it so that beywarriors cyborg got booted

round 3 beywheelz had the most votes until someone edited their comment and pretty much singlehandedly got metal fury booted

round 4 I don't think anyone read the rules cus it was least upvoted gets booted and beywheelz was byfar the most upvoted

round 5 was a gamble round where highest is immune from votes next round and 2nd highest is booted and beywheelz got the most upvotes

OOP again: Why am I getting downvoted lol

Cause people are tired of you glazing beywheelz.

The maker of this trend is clearly biased. I could’ve sworn Beywheelz was the most voted. And changing the rules? It’s crazy how as each day goes you’re becoming less and less credible. Take Beywheelz out and bring back QuadDrive. Anyways my vote is Beywheelz regardless.

OOP: My guy u cannot be mad you're one of the people who voted for beywheelz last round 😭

What does that have to do with anything? It’s the fact that your making nonchalant idiotic rules as it goes. That’s why everyone including I are annoyed. Had this been a normal elimination trend then Beywheelz would have been the first to second out. And no, I don’t care about your rules, and neither does anyone else.

the beywheelz gig was funny now it's over, get rid of it and bring back quaddrive.

OOP: why would i bring back quadrive as the post said 2nd highest voted is out and highest voted is immune

it's clear that you're biased towards beywheelz and there's now been 2 instances where beywheelz wasn't voted out despite getting the most votes, first guy editing his comment, second now you're using some random guys suggestion instead of just getting rid of the one with the most votes, which what a shocker! is the one series you're trying to not get out. you've now arbitrarily given it immunity. the joke was funny the first time. now it's just annoying and ruins the whole point of this game.

Can’t believe that beywheelz is still here. 💀

at this point its only because the people on this sub just don't read lol

OOP finally admits that BeyWheelz will be eliminated in the next round.

Aight ima put it in all caps in the title next time so yall know how to eliminate the next series. Which unfortunately will be beywheelz

In a turn of events NOBODY 🙃 expected, the IDW subreddit has purged and banned members and moderators to ensure they have a space for free speech, beginning with manifesto of the moderator that reads like a fictional LoTR character returning from exile:

https://www.reddit.com/r/IntellectualDarkWeb/comments/1c2kv9q/the_red_webbing_im_back/

The moderator later unironically follows up that this new freedom of speech policy should be considered "martial law":

https://www.reddit.com/r/IntellectualDarkWeb/comments/1c35xuu/dont_take_a_victory_lap/

And in less than 24 hours, we have an example of the new "intellectual" topics that can be discussed.

https://www.reddit.com/r/IntellectualDarkWeb/comments/1c38squ/comment/kzhhxgr/

We should kill and/or enslave criminals. Keeping them locked up temporarily is a bad idea.

Eugenics is good.

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#The Context:

The full comments are less-than-NSFW due to some ASCII dicks in butts. Be forewarned.

An ad for the upcoming Star Wars Outlaws game is posted with comments turned on. The game has been controversial in some circles for the looks of the female main character, the lack of customization, and the developer’s track record.

Realizing comments have been left open, gamers air the displeasure.

#The Drama:

One user takes issue with the main character being called 40 years-old:

“40 year old woman” Hang on. Are we talking about this character? 40? Level with me, bro. Have you ever seen a woman up close in real life?

I'm a 56 year old woman. This woman could be 40. She could be a really well hydrated 60. She could be 26.

I'd play her anyway. Game looks fun.

Of course not. Bro hasn't seen his shower in months.

I understand what you have to see up close in the mirror every morning is upsetting, but that's no reason to lose your mind over a comment about a video game character looking old.

Is that your best comeback? "Oh yeah well you're ugly"? You can do better.

Yeah, she looks 40

So you've never seen a woman up close either? There's more of you guys than I expected

This is Reddit 90% of the people here haven't touched a woman ever and probably haven't spoken to one outside of a retail or work setting in over a year.

I’m a 44 year old guy, my 43 year old wife looks better than that.

That seems unlikely.

[…]

Gamers: "All this 'representation' stuff is bullshit. Just play the game."

Also gamers: "HOW DARE YOU EXPECT ME TO PLAY A WOMAN WHO IS OVER 18"

Gamers: look at all these snowflakes wanting to be represented in a game. Why do you need someone to look like you to feel connected?

Also gamers: wHERe Are ALL tHe wHIte GuYs

You sound like such a fucking weirdo. Sorry she doesn't look like a teenager you creep.

She's not any were near 40. She doesn't even look like she could be.

You're dealing with fucking nerds on the internet. If the female lead isn't an overly sexualized "woman" who looks like she's 15, the incels get upset.

Idk, she's a bit weird-looking. Like a worse-looking Adrienne Barbeau if she was also a high elf. And it doesn't make you an incel to want attractive women in games. The Star Wars fanbase has always primarily been made up of horny young guys, and it's unsurprising they like sexy women in games.

I hate the implication that finding an idealized fictional woman attractive means that you hate irl women. I get this is misconstrued as men thinking only these fake ideals are attractive, and that real women have to live up to that, but it's really not true. Real women are actually real, so they're always hotter than fictional woman. It's literally soul vs soulless. These idealized women are a soulless amalgamation of every attractive trait real women have, with none of the personality or spirit or individuality.

Of course there's legit incels who want every girl to be an anime waifu, though I don't think anyone wants them to look 15. And they think these are superior to real women, but this is just because they have no women, it's sour grapes. Normal guys are not literally using fictional women as a replacement for real women.

Your post history is just posts looking for sex.

Is another user guilty of being a woman?

Not only nerds, the worst kind of nerds. Star Wars nerds. It's sad how many incels and misogynistic assholes are in this fanbase.

Misogynistic... I'm guessing based on your user name and the use of that word that you are a woman. If that is the case, you do know that your opinion is in the minority among women who play video games, right? Most women would also rather play as a good-looking MC versus someone average or who has been uglified.

Shut up nerd.

Thank you for proving my point.

🤡🤡🤡

Another bemoans how the game screams “diversity quotas”:

Media has degraded to political garbage because dorks like you will buy anything and everything as long as it has flashy lasers and explosions. I don’t even care about the way the MC looks, everything about this game screams diversity quotas and political inserts, and looks just as lifeless as any other Ubisoft game the past 5 years. But sure, call everyone who disagrees with you a nerd. Also, there’s this thing called target audience. Most gamers are guys. Harder to get immersed playing a 40 year old chick. Hard concept to grasp, I know. But we’re on Reddit so let’s just parrot shit we’ve heard somewhere else to feel smart.

Lol! Quiet incel. Literally nobody cares about your mouth breathing opinions.

Squriming libtards on Reddit are the most pathetic people on the planet. Nobody takes you people seriously IRL, you're terminally online and you need echochambers on internet forums to get your opinions validated because your liberal arts degree didn't take you anywhere. Can't wait for your party to commit political suicide soon by starting another war. Also can't wait to see Ubisoft go bankrupt soon, if you haven't noticed already this steaming pile of garbage already has terrible reception. Have fun with your 20th far cry copy and paste.

Bah ha ha!! Yes, reading your comments I'M definitely the chronic online no lifer. Surely it's not the guy butthurt about libtards and crying over Ubisoft. You're unbelievably delusional and pathetic.

Yeah, I mean I have a total of less than 50 comments on this entire account, so nice try buddy. But yes, you’re a libtard and everyone thinks you’re delusional. It’s simple statistics. All the woketard companies are going broke. Enjoy your garbage games while ypu can. And maybe try to go back to school, I’m sure you can keep working on that liberal arts degree.

[Continued:]

Lol! You mean one of your 50 alt accounts. You have a profile pic of anime, and -11 karma on this account. You're not fooling anyone, you sad, pathetic incel. I'd say go touch grass, but you being inside crying about Ubisoft is a much better place for you. No actual live person wants your un-showered presence anywhere near them.

You either don’t know what incel means or you’re projecting REALLY hard. It makes sense given the fact that you make 5-10 video game comments a day, it’s almost like that’s the only subject you can talk about. Also imagine actually caring about Reddit karma. You seriously exposed how fucking retarded you are just now. Stay classy Reddit. There’s a reason everyone thinks you people are fucking degens.

So.... Why are you on Reddit then?? Actually I don't care. I'm honestly disappointed in myself for even indulging you with comments. Bye incel!

[…]

You call everyone else dumb, but yet you’re the one throwing out “libtard,” “woketard,” (that’s a new one) and your damn username is literally noob185. You’re not as smart as you think you are, but no one is going to be able to convince you otherwise so carry on.

I love seeing the me too movement mald. Redditors are so goofy 😂 did you know that even many liberals IRL think the woke propaganda being shoved down our throats is wrong? You wouldn’t since you probably don’t go outside. Go now, r/worldnews awaits your next pro-war comment.

Ah yes, deflection. The classic move when you don’t have a good enough retort. Fucking noob indeed.

Dude you even talk like the average neckbeard on here. "Ah yes" and resorting to making fun of my username. Jesus christ man, I can just imagine you snorting and saying "AHHHH........... YESSSSS" when you disagree with someone IRL. Sorry brother you ain't Darth Sidius or some shit. Btw, I can't take people seriously that think you can't be racist towards white people because of "systematic oppression." That is both one of the most braindead and evil takes in Western society because all it does is add fuel to race wars and divide people. Not to mention there are places in the world such as Africa, Asia and the Middle East where slavery still takes place. But white man bad.

You seem incredibly offended, so I’ll leave you to it.

[Continued:]

Nice copout, you can't make an argument because you can't use your room temp IQ to even think about the ideas you believe in. Please stop making comments, you make yourself look like an idiot.

The game has gender:

Yay another female lead…

Sorry, little buddy. it looks like this hame's gonna be T for teen. Maybe once you're older.

What a stupid fucking comment.

Imagine never playing a game cause it's got girls in it. No Zero Dawn, no Tomb Raiders, no Portal, no Mirrors Edge, no TLOU, no Spiritfarer.

Oh no digital cooties!

Neckbeards at their finest. lol. "Girls are bad!"

Well, apparently, I'm not meant to buy it because I'm a white male. So... yea... in this scenario, girls and their bullshit are kinda fucking getting old.

[Continued:]

Why aren't you meant to buy it? Ubisoft has literally paid to present you an ad asking you to buy it.

Aspersions are cast:

I'm sorry you don't get your over sexualized pre teen to oogle over. Go get some help.

Me: "Dislikes how a game looks and its main character"

You: "You're a Pedophile!"

Yeah... I need help. Sure.

Getting this offended over an opinion on a game, a game you aren't even going to play, that's wild.

you're absolutely braindead, grow the fuck up lmfao

So you think she looks 40 when she looks 25 too? The only thing that's making you think that is all the pre teen looking women you oogle. Maybe go talk to an actual woman some time. And get the help you need.

You fantasize so much about pedophiles, no one even has to mention anything relating to age and it’s your first thought.

again, grow the fuck up freak🤣

It’s probably because the skin looks like an old avocado, but I’m also partly blind and on an older phone. 😂

You can undye your hair, blue isn’t original anymore.

Claims are leveled against a community manager:

Is this the same game where the community manager went all in on an anti white racist tirade on twitter?

Who cares? The game creator could be a genocidal maniac that killed billions, and as long as the game is fun and I'm not one of the billions I'm still playing.

Shut up bot.

Lmfao, triggered? Little bitch boy so maddddd LOL

I’m not triggered at all. You’re just a sad, smelly NPC that allows Ubisoft to get away with the things they do. If you had sentience you would be ashamed that you are part of the problem.

PS- you are dogshit at trolling. You are not smart enough. Do yourself a favor and find another hobby.

A succinct slapfight breaks out:

An open world Star Wars game where I can’t make my own character? Skipping

Ok lil man

Talking to yourself?

Ok guy 👍

Ahh the personal attacks begin

“lil man” is a personal attack? How thin skinned can someone be? 😂😂😂

Dry your eyes

Ur mad kid

#The Flairs:

• “Even femboy Peter Cucker is fun to play in Spider-man 2”

• “No actual live person wants your un-showered presence anywhere near them”

• “If you had sentience you would be ashamed that you are part of the problem”

This is new and developing drama/weirdness so there isn't too much, but I still think it's worth sharing.

OOP posts a video of him pissing off his deck near a possum who walks into the stream several times and wants to know what could cause this behavior.

A few people rightfully point out how fucking weird it is to piss on an animal, but one commenter questions if there is anything morally wrong if the possum is into it.

The same user continues to defend the possum pisser bringing another to ask "How about I piss on you and ask why you're upset? Fuck off"

OOP explains himself and adds a dash of misogyny- "Ok, once again. The opossum ran under the piss several times, I stopped the first time he came out of the shadows and he just kept doing it. I was hoping for actual input on this and not a bunch of chicks on their period telling me why I’m a bad man."

Don't piss in the popcorn OR on the opossum

An internet drama makes its way to subreddit drama as an ousted billionaire shows up in the comments to defend his politics!

https://np.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/1c3rwfk/john_carmack_regrets_not_doing_more_to_support/

There's quite a LOT going on here (these are billionaires publicly finger pointing and posturing over extremely large companies, and big politics), background provided by reddit user Aboveskies (quoting John Carmack):

https://np.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/1c3rwfk/john_carmack_regrets_not_doing_more_to_support/kzj50gb/

I regret not doing more to support and defend @PalmerLuckey at Facebook. We were in different states and divisions, and I was largely out of the political loop, but when I became aware of the situation I should have made a clear and open statement of opposition to the witch hunt.

Companies are better off without the crowd that did that.

Thankfully, Palmer has gone on to even greater success.

There's some vague twitter non-infrmation from Andrew Bosworth, the current CTO of Meta, which brings Palmer out of the woodwork (still quoting from twitter by reddit user Aboveskies):

Great story to tell now that I have dra-gged myself back to relevance, but you aren't credible.

You retweeted posts claiming I donated to white supremacists, and a post saying that anyone who supports Trump because they don't like Hillary Clinton is a shitty human being.

You publicly told everyone my departure had nothing to do with politics, which is absolutely insane and obviously contradicted by reams of internal communications. It is like saying the sky is green. Same goes for you telling people that I wasn't pressured into saying anything untrue, that any mention of politics and who I was voting for was up to me. Can I post my original statement, the one that was explicitly rejected on account of saying negative things about Hillary Clinton, or is that still considered Work Product?

Maybe you are lying, maybe you are just ignorant and willing to launder the lies of others about something you weren't even around for, but don't try to play the apolitical hero here.

Extended Twitter rant from Palmer follows.

Reddit user Hendeith clarifies some of the above Twitter thread to indicate why the former CEO of Mozilla was removed from that position:

https://np.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/1c3rwfk/john_carmack_regrets_not_doing_more_to_support/kzjxmfx/

Everyone was fine with Eich being part of Mozilla until he was made CEO. That's because Eich made multiple donations to hard right wing causes: lobbying against same-sex marriage in California, proposition 8 (same-sex marriage ban in California) and right wing politicians that supported it. When you are a CEO you lead and shape your company. People working for Mozilla had every right to oppose him being a CEO.

Hendeith goes on to clarify more specifically the drama behind Luckey being removed from Facebook:

Palmer Luckey was fired after it was made public that he donated money to pro Trump groups. It wasn't his campaign or anything like that. It was again far right fundraisers. Stuff they are officially know for are billboards saying Hillary is too big to go to jail, but they are also accused of astroturfing and in some cases using troll accounts to spread hate.

Palmer can't be quiet on this one so he shows up in the reddit thread (assuming palmerluckey is actually him, which is likely):

NOTE the account palmerluckey is editing their comments, so I am copying relevant portions as I see them.

https://np.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/1c3rwfk/john_carmack_regrets_not_doing_more_to_support/kzlbqr2/

It isn't just that it was never officially confirmed, it very clearly never happened - the origins of those claims were people on Twitter making things up without even a tiny grain of truth to start from. Those accusations were completely fabricated from the start, it was a coordinated and sustained campaign to get me fired by spreading lies. There is a reason many of the stories about me funding racist/sexist/anti-semitic troll campaigns were completely deleted - if any of it was true, it would certainly get referenced in modern coverage of myself and Anduril [Anduril is Palmer's new autonomous drone weapons company].

Palmer then goes on to say that Americans and Barack Obama don't want Gay marriage:

https://np.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/1c3rwfk/john_carmack_regrets_not_doing_more_to_support/kzkw7lr/

It is worth noting that same-sex marriage was not a popular cause. The people supporting it were generally very politically left or libertarian. It is easy to call Proposition 8 a far-right invention in the modern day, but it passed! In California, one of the most reliably liberal states! Heck, even Barack Obama was against same-sex marriage.

Then Palmer points out that opposition to gay marriage was a moderate position:

https://np.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/1c3rwfk/john_carmack_regrets_not_doing_more_to_support/kzl45zh/

My point is not that it passed without opposition, it is that opposition to same-sex marriage was not a far-right position or something that be fairly used to paint someone as a bigot worthy of firing. It was, at the time, a majority view even in California but especially nationally.

Reddit user xxTheGoDxx does an extended dive into Palmer Luckey's connection to the military industrial complex, too long to quote here entirely but ends by implying his right wing political donations may have played into his weapons company's success:

https://np.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/1c3rwfk/john_carmack_regrets_not_doing_more_to_support/kzkwyuk/

Honestly makes it sound like his donation might have been to get the door open on a defense contract, but who knows.

Much of the thread appears to have been overrun with MAGA supporters.

Reddit user gigadude claims to have worked with Palmer at Oculus, talks shit about his politics AND his tech chops AND brings up Gamergate:

https://np.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/1c3rwfk/john_carmack_regrets_not_doing_more_to_support/kzjrlrg/

Palmer's politics did bleed into internal threads from time to time; not in an overly hostile way but certainly in a way I found unprofessional, especially in his role as a leader. For what it's worth I can't remember a single technical contribution he made during my overlap with him, or for that matter seeing him in the office very often; I do remember several times his public antics while on the clock representing Oculus needing PR damage control.

Palmer can't deal with this slight, says he doesn't know the dude:

https://np.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/1c3rwfk/john_carmack_regrets_not_doing_more_to_support/kzky2en/

I don't know what division you worked in, but it must have been pretty far removed from my team. I was in the office every workday and most weekends, and only took a single one-week vacation in my years at Facebook. Not seeing a single technical contribution is also pretty strange given the teams I led, particularly on the input side.

Palmer goes on to say that his replacement at Oculus (the current CTO of meta) was anti-Trump:

https://np.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/1c3rwfk/john_carmack_regrets_not_doing_more_to_support/kzl99sx/

Remember that Boz is the one who posted (and then deleted) that anyone who supports Trump because they don't like Hillary is a shitty human being. And he is the CTO! Politics was always fine, but not anything right of San Francisco middle.

Redditor pentagon points out that Palmer is Matt Gaetz' brother in law (!):

https://np.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/1c3rwfk/john_carmack_regrets_not_doing_more_to_support/kzlykbg/

Redditor deSpaffle points out that Palmer is a big MAGA donor:

https://np.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/1c3rwfk/john_carmack_regrets_not_doing_more_to_support/kzk1rjp/

He also financially supports his pedo brother in law and the Republican party, having made at least 719 separate donations totalling millions of dollars.

https://www.opensecrets.org/donor-lookup/results?name=palmer+luckey&order=desc&sort=A

Palmer ignores this but then shows up a bit lower down to deny this (despite the evidence??):

https://np.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/1c3rwfk/john_carmack_regrets_not_doing_more_to_support/kzldqlg/

None of this is true. My political contributions at that point were limited to Ron Paul, Gary Johnson, and $9k to an anti-Clinton group. I was quiet about it, too. There is a reason nobody even knew my politics until the press dug them up.

The thread devolves into the usual left vs right wing tit-a-tat. American political arguments, discussion of the big T, military contracts, silicon valley power plays, definitions of inflammatory terms, etc.

Edit:

For your popcorning pleasure, another thread in a different subreddit on the same subject, although reddit user palmerluckey isn't in it, and it's locked:

https://np.reddit.com/r/virtualreality/comments/1c3qg11/john_carmack_regrets_not_doing_oing_more_to/

Probably the best part is reddit user Looki187 posting a no-context picture of Palmer Luckey posing happily with Steve Bannon and flashing a controversial hand sign:

https://np.reddit.com/r/virtualreality/comments/1c3qg11/john_carmack_regrets_not_doing_oing_more_to/kzjdc2h/

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEMx26aUEAEM0LV?format=jpg&name=small

Reddit user muchcharles indicates that the second fellow in the pic is a holocaust denier named Chuck Johnson:

https://np.reddit.com/r/virtualreality/comments/1c3qg11/john_carmack_regrets_not_doing_oing_more_to/kzjrlgh/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_C._Johnson#Holocaust_denial https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_C._Johnson#Charlottesville_Rally

https://www.tampabay.com/florida-politics/buzz/2018/02/05/matt-gaetzs-state-of-the-union-guest-admits-he-questioned-holocaust/

justacolyte: what are your thoughts on the Holocaust, WW2, and the JQ (anti-semitic conspiracy theory speak for The Jewish Question) talk in general?

ChuckCJohnson: I do not and never have believed the six million figure. I think the Red Cross numbers of 250,000 dead in the camps from typhus are more realistic. I think the Allied bombing of Germany was a war crime. I agree with David Cole about Auschwitz and the gas chambers not being real. I read the German War (highly recommend), Bloodlands, Mein Kampf, and all of David Irving.

edit2:

Ermagerd guys I can't keep up, he's all up in the comments still, ITS STILL UNFOLDING AND I AM OUT OF POPCORN SNED HALP

Users notice both the comments and voting have been left open after a parent comment is removed, presumably by OP

Should we wait until the director's cut is released?

Should we wait 2: the sequel

the audacity and gall to come to a Star Wars subreddit and advertise this poorly made imposter film shlopped together by a very bad director that already nuked another cinematic universe

Users display their passion for cinema and delight at an advertiser's open comments section by posting fine art.

A Meme was posted in r/memes about how can someone say "A month from now" when months have different days

After a few comments about how the people posting these types of memes make themselves look stupid because its a pretty easy thing to understand that it means "around this time next month" someone replies with it makes them seem slow.....and enter stage right our drama starter

He starts by saying that sounds ableist and the person is probably thinking slower not harder, which neurodivergent people do

When someone replies that they are neurodivergent and that just sounds like an excuse, Sir Drama responds with how his thinking isnt wrong, just different, and that if people read his bio they would see downvotes arent a "petty disagreement button" and that downvoting doesnt mean hes wrong people just dont understand him

The same user is also all over the thread with multiple copy/pasted replies about how you would confuse people around Jan 30th saying this time next month because Feb 30th doesnt exist, not listening to anyone replying that they would mean around the end of the month

Main thread:

https://www.reddit.com/r/sailormoon/s/QHMEoawWbk

Archived link:

https://web.archive.org/web/20240414213459/https://www.reddit.com/r/sailormoon/comments/1c3kclx/sailor_moon_tattoo_on_my_forehead/?share_id=dtgCpCmQP1wuhaJ-tYO33&rdt=33725

Some highlights:

"Sorry, girl"

(Lots of buttery replies off this one)

People question what artist would do this - in a now deleted post in r/nerdtattoos OP says it was some Slavic guy

"Don’t be a judgmental asshole lol if they like it and they’re satisfied who gives a shit?"

OP doesn't have to worry about jobs because they plan to be a housewife (OP is also engaged at 18)

"That’s a… very privileged take. Good luck with that."

"Love and light to everyone reading this"

OP is complimented on their piercing and replies "pierced it myself at 15 in my dirty bathroom with 0 pain, literally the best piercing ever"

Hopefully this is formatted right this is my first post and I'm mobile user

Juror from the O.J. trial says they let him off as payback for Rodney King.

Some redditors are upset by this, others agree with her.

Full comment section

Seems like karmic justice.

I'm sure the Goldman and Brown families are just thrilled to hear that

I thought payback for Rodney King was the several days of rioting and looting in LA. Huh, the more you know.

I'll never forget in high school walking by a black young man like 10 mins after the jury deliberation. He said, "it's about time one of us got away with something."

So it's mostly white dudes and bots on here, ehh?

I’m no legal analyst and I’m just speculating from my armchair but I’m willing to bet a whole lot of trial verdicts have been symbolic or a protest in some form or another. This is probably more common than we think.

Unpopular opinion;

But getting Chauvin on 2nd degree murder was a bit of a stretch. 3rd absolutely, but 2nd was a surprise verdict, which I can assume was a symbolic charge and a symbolic verdict.

The comment section is still active, so I might update this in a few hours.

#The Context:

OOP posts a screenshot of a text exchange between him and his partner regarding a towel rod he hung in their new house that is not level to /r/mildlyinfuriating. The post has since been deleted, but a (blurry) copy of the exchange can be found here.

Before deleting his post, OOP explains that this turned into a 5 hour argument.

Drama quickly breaks out as users assign blame.

#The Drama

OOP is upbraided:

So let me get this right... ... your partner brought up a valid point with proof... ... and instead of taking the L and admitting fault, you ended a 7 year relationship so you could continue feeling "right" when you are clearly wrong? You need a therapist, maybe two.

Then OP posted on reddit assuming random internet strangers would agree with their plight.

Been married for 5 years in May. This is the most useless thing to argue about and in fact my wife and I both agreed that this argument is not about the towel rack 🤣

Can we stop dogging on this fucking guy and consider the possibility that there were other problems in the relationship y’all

I mean, if that's how he installs a towel rack I can see why there might be other issues in their relationship. It's visibly crooked, he didn't use the level during or after mounting it. He clearly doesn't take pride in doing a job the right way, I can only imagine how he treats the rest of his life.

Oh my god. This line of reasoning can extend to literally anything, where any flaw a person has can be indicative of how they do everything. So essentially, someone has to be perfect to be a functional adult.

I have tons of aquariums, hobbies, shit around the house I take great care of, but I’m lazy as fuck when it comes to putting up wall stuff (unless it’s a hazard). I think people around here might need to chill a bit instead of thinking they know a person based off one picture and a sentence.

Yeah, and those were probably OPs fault too, judging by the behaviour we've seen from him (like completely cutting out his own response, and posting to this sub with something that doesnt fit).

What the fuck lol. Proof? Have you been in a functioning and happy relationship as an adult? Do you want to know how you avoid making your partner feel like shit?

All you do is say: "hey babe, I noticed the towel rack you hung is a bit crooked. Could you help me fix this later?"

Why are we pretending OP doesn't know it's slanted? Do you think their argument was about whether or not the towel rack is slanted? I feel like I've entered teenager reddit lol

Questions are raised:

Then why was this an argument? Did you just get defensive and start bringing up everything she's done wrong??

How on earth is that your conclusion?

Because I can't understand how this became an argument. If he hung it wrong and knows it then how did this become a 5 hour argument? I was just asking what happened that it became an argument and couples argue all the time to when they get defensive of criticism of themselves so instead they start bringing up the wrong things the partner criticizing them does. It happens all the time. I was curious how it evolved into a relationship breaking argument.

Bro take a breather. It's obvious there's more to the story and you won't find out. Just imagine they had their own stuff to deal with and the towel rack was the fucking catalyst.

I don't need a breather I just asked a question on how it devolved into a 5 hour argument. someone asked why I said what I said so I explained lol

[Continued:]

You said 'I don't understand how' which is stupid, of course you don't understand how, you know neither of the people involved or anything about them. And you're here like 'how, why, when' you want their life story of what?

Are you fucking stupid or what?? Every post here and the comments therein are people giving and asking for more information. Go bother someone else to hear yourself talk. I asked a question, that's it. Go find your legal guardian because your screen time is probably already up anyway jfc

ooooohh someone's mad do something about it hahaha

[…]

How often do you use that excuse when you’re doing home projects? Because if it’s a lot then it wasn’t the towel rack my guy. It’s you being a lazy moron who fucks everything up and then shrugs and argues about it.

Jeeeezus this escalated quickly for someone you know nothing about mate, take it easy with the projection haha

This isn’t an issue with projection, it’s you feeling attacked

Read what you wrote but three times slowly.

What do you think projection means? This should be fun

[Continued:]

Lmfao we're not about to do this buddy. Good luck to you.

Of course we’re not because like op you’d have to embarrass yourself

[…]

Bro literally said he is a lazy idiot who can't do anything right, from one fucking post, mate. I have no reason to feel attacked, dude just profiled OP out of thin air.

Yes! If that’s him “trying his best” then he is an idiot who can’t do anything right. They own a level and he still can’t hang a towel rack straight. And even worse, he is saying he lacks the basic ability to fix it. That’s an idiot who can’t do anything right.

lol okay I guess, OP is a loser :)

He did, it functions as a towel bar.

People who half-ass things are lame.

Judging others for small mistakes is lame.

No it isn't.

[crying wojak meme]

[Continued:]

You're the one bitching about being judged for sucking at basic shit.

I’m bitching? I’m saying to be grateful for what you’ve got. Nothing but subjective appearance wrong with that towel bar

Have some standards man. Raise the bar, so to speak

I do. Such as not being judgemental over insignificant things

People debate if this is even a big deal:

Very benign but the dumbest shit ever to complaint about. Who cares if that thing is slightly off level? And you can also feel the exasperation in her tone.

Lol what? It’s not worthy of a fight but pointing out it’s visibly crooked shouldn’t be an issue 

Yes but it being crooked is a nonissue as well, so she started the nonissue issues lol

No. This is how regular people would handle.

Babe its crooked

Oh shit baby you're right, I guess I didn't do it correctly.

Yeah! No worries I don't think I can do it either so let's hire out.

Bam conversation over.

I'm willing to bet regular people wouldn't care that a towel rack of all things is a bit crooked. But thanks for showing me how humans communicate

[…]

Something looking bad is generally an issue when it comes to people’s houses. And a towel bar is very easy to fix. 

It's also very easy to ignore.

Why would you ignore it..? Do you really not understand the concept of people wanting things to look nice? Because that's a pretty major part of human behaviour that you can't seem to grasp.

Yes I am not human, explain it to me pls.

Others are reminded that OOP is a grown ass man:

Fuck that. This is grown ass man. If he can’t put up a towel rack then he’s a child who needs a parent not a relationship

Lol what are these comments

People who are sick and tired of weaponized incompetence 🤷🏻‍♀️

Truth and the basic standards of being an adult

Right? People giving op shit for arguing over this for 5 hours and look at all these idiot Redditors doing the same thing.

People here act like no one makes mistakes ever. This is why you don't air out your dirty laundry on reddit.

Making a mistake is one thing, letting it sit till your girlfriend has to point it out and then starting a five hour argument about that mistake is another.

Not to mention this was probably a straw that broke the camel's back situation

I wasn't talking to you.

[Continued:]

You were talking to everyone, it's a public post ffs.

A user shares an anecdote:

I told my girl if she wants things fixed by me they're always gonna be crooked. Even with a level. Take it as it is or come hold it and give me final approval before I drill it in. Now if it's crooked I blame it on her

Why can’t you just stop doing a poor job instead of utilising weaponised incompetence? I feel sorry for her.

How do you know he isn't blind? I think it's great that he managed to get it on the wall at all.

Haha the funny part is I'm actually borderline blind! Me and my girl joke about everything being crooked. She's actually helping me put up new rails on the deck

So you're just admitting to being incompetent? How about you become an adult and just learn how to do basic shit?

He’s not incompetent. He’s purposefully doing this shit to be a dick to his SO because he’s a little crybaby bitchboy who doesn’t like doing their job on their own. That’s just how some people are. And that’s exactly the type of behavior that ends relationships.

Yikes you’re a winner

Pathetic 

OOP is dragged:

To me it sounds OP is an adult size child. If someone points to me I did something crooked I would want to fix it right away. Not argue for 5 hours.

I can tell from personal experience that it has nothing to do with the towel rack. It's how things are with toxic relationships. Was in one for 3 years as well and we were constantly fighting for the most insignificant things. And yes fights could go on for days. Funny thing is you can't really blame one side or the other. Both people are suffering and staying in the relationship for all the wrong reasons.

Or… maybe… just maybe… OP does this shit continuously… and she has told him over and over and over NICELY that he’s fucking shit up and to please fix it and then he turns it into a 5 hour argument every time, claiming something that is NOT LEVEL AT ALL is perfectly fine…and they lady is tired of it?

Edit: point made… men are so upset by the possibility that a man can mess things up and be at fault that I’m getting threatening messages and comments calling me names and got reported for “being suicidal”. Stay classy, little boys

You talk like an insane bitch. I’d bet money you’re fat

Classy. Kiss your whore mother with that mouth?

Is anyone owed answers?

I'm guessing you did it so badly on purpose so that your SO doesn't ask you to do anything like it again. Or, since you're just not answering any questions (other than "oops, tee-hee") you just stole the pic and posted it for karma.

Or, since you're just not answering any questions

Why do you weirdos feel so entitled to other people's time and attention?

Because OP is literally posting this for our attention?

OP shared an anecdote. And now they've deleted it because no one can just be normal. Good job.

But not before getting that sweet karma.

[Continued:]

What a cynical dickhead, log off.

#The Flairs:

• “Maybe just shut up and fix it, you cockeyed mofo.”

• “Babe” is such an aggressive term. It is rarely said lovingly

• “ooooohh someone's mad do something about it hahaha”

https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinteresting/s/Sb99bVi710

#The Context:

A news story about a Spanish politician being forced to resign over leaked photos and videos of him eating shit is posted to /r/nottheonion.

Users decide to debate the propriety of kink shaming, the ideology of leftists, and the state of Reddit.

#The Drama:

A user urges privacy:

Consenting adults in private should remain private

Then why did they film it?

I mean, filming sex acts can be a lot of fun. Sending them to other horny people (if you're in a relationship, etc) can be a lot of fun. I think the biggest fuck up is probably showing your face if you want privacy and you're disseminating it in a remotely public fashion., though.

My personal argument is that it isn't anyone's business or relevant to his job, so I don't really care. I've known all kinds of people with weird kinks who were rational people and functioning members of society. Sometimes they pay me money to write erotic short stories.

Philosophy is brain rot. You guys are using intellect to fight against reality.

I'm just thinking critically, and looking at this issue with reasoning that goes beyond my immediate reaction. Something isn't bad because I personally think it's gross, it's just... Well, fuckin gross.

Imagine if sex between a man and a woman were something that society saw as wrong and disgusting. Would that actually make it immoral or unhealthy? How is this situation different?

Edit: I mean, you can even argue that it's dangerous and unhealthy. Women can get vaginally infections. Both sexes can get STIs. If a woman gets pregnant, she can even (and fairly easily) die as a result of pregnancy.

Sex is normal, and this guy isn't performing typical sexual behavior. But normality and abnormality don't define health, safety or morality.

[Continued:]

You are very dogmatic. You feel some kind of duty. You submit to a dogmatic philosophy. You reject reality and pragmatism.

You have yet to say anything to actually defend your perspective of "reality and pragmatism".

Since when is "it's fine if someone does whatever they want as long as it isn't hurting anyone" an unpragmatic stance?

I dont really have a philosophical perspective.

Humans dont eat poop.

Your philosophical dogmatism forces you to overthink the issue.

Right. Actual logic and critical thinking is dogmatic, but simply stating beliefs as if they are facts... Is not?

I can be reasoned out of my views. Can you?

Humans dont eat poop.

I dont have a "perspective" that i could explain to you.

[Continued:]

Whether you're right or not, you're clearly the one being dogmatic

Dogmatic thinking is a complicated system of mandatory beliefs that have to be honored even when they do nothing to explain reality.

I am simply explaining observed reality to you, and this seems to be scary to you.

Tin pot brand new account. Treat with caution.

You will continue to get confused by your complex set of mandatory beliefs that interact very poorly with observed reality, and you will continue to not feel responsible for the confusion.

Sweetheart I literally taught you that. Gtfo here.

[Continued:]

Sweetheart I literally taught you that. Gtfo here.

Another sees no problem:

Hot take, but I do think we shouldn't hold people against their leaked sex photos and videos, barring some exceptions.

This would be one of those exceptions

If it was between consenting adults, I don't really see the problem.

You don't? An elected official dumb and depraved enough to eat shit on camera?

This website is the gutter of society

How do you say this while being active in a sub called r/sinkpissers?? Where is the self awareness?

Anyway, if a politician had a great policies and was a better public leader than the opposition then I would probably look past anything depraved they do in private if it doesn’t harm others.

I don’t want a poop eater making decisions for the rest of us, if I’m being honest.

I don’t want a poop eater making decisions for the rest of us, if I’m being honest.

[Continued:]

Why? Is he any more out of touch than ultra rich warmongers who get off on sending other people to their deaths? Because that's the majority of who we have in charge, at least in the US. Frankly this seems pretty harmless.

Your brain is seriously malfunctioning if you eat shit. Whataboutism is not gonna change that. How about we find a person who is not a warmonger or a shiteater?

Yeah people are taking this “don’t kink shame” thing too far. If he did some absolutely insane shit and then this came out afterwards, people would be saying “oh wow if only we’d known he was off his fucking rocker”. This isn’t normal kink shit. Mentally stable people do not eat shit.

[…]

He was in charge of the local Youth, Children and Family department. There is a difference between fetish shaming a random citizen and holding a public official whose salary is paid for by taxes to family-friendly behavioural standards.

Eating poop is a perfectly family-friendly, albeit kinky fetish.

Unless he is performing those acts with children, or sharing them, it doesn't matter. What someone does, consensually, in their private life is exactly that, private.

Reddit leftists genuinely see no problem with this and wonder why people are moving away from these degenerates. Just handing ammo over to conservatives.

Of course this is reddit whereas in the real world very few people would defend this. On reddit though you'll get a swarm of losers with little anime girl profiles to stand up for it.

Meanwhile reddit neoliberals can't even go five minutes without blaming something they don't like on leftists

The politician is a leftist

Leftists more than anyone are all for accepting anything and everything and against any kind of kink shaming

I'm pretty sure neolibs are the ones defending this. As a leftist, I don't want to be associated with doodoo-eating. 

Another decries “dysfuntionals”:

Hot take, we shouldn't let dysfunctionals run our society. And if you can't see the inherent mental dysfunction in this guy, I don't know what's to say.

Hot take anyone who uses the word "dysfunctionals" is far too close to eugenics to be allowed to have a say in society.

Hot take, anyone who is ofended by words should go cry in a corner.

Says the guy offended by someone's consensual private sex life. Go knock yourself out with your bible.

Wow, I've never seen someone hell bent on promoting and enabling disease ridden and unhygenic habits....

Live and let live?

If the dude wants to eat poop, let him. Why would I care?

There is no way you can convince me that someone that eats shit for fun isn’t severely mentally ill. He can do what he wants, but there is no way I would want someone like that making rules for society.

You know, mental illnesses tend to be diagnosed by professionals who analyze specific criteria. Like, it's a whole field of medicine.

I think we would be wise to take a bit of caution before cementing our opinions on some guy we've never heard of until a sensational headline on the internet. It does a disservice to actual people living with and caring for mental illnesses.

Bro, stop it. It doesn’t take a genius or medical professional to figure out that someone who eats shit isn’t alright in the head. Some things are common sense.

I hate to break it to you but it actually does require a medical professional to diagnose medical disorders. That's like, why they exist, bro. It's not my fault you think you're too smart to listen to professionals. "People who dedicate their lives to a specific type of knowledge tend to know more than a random on the internet" seems like common sense to me.

[Continued:]

Lol ok you can live in that world, and I'll live in the world where eating shit makes you mentally ill.

[…]

Only on Reddit will you see so many people defending the mental health status of a person that eats poop.

Go tell your therapist you eat shit right now and see if they don't diagnose you with something.

Others sound exasperated:

I don't know why you'd care. I'm still fine looking down on it, and with others looking down on it, it's obviously a sign that something is not right.

You really making me defend a poop eater today

with others looking down on it, it's obviously a sign that something is not right.

Really sit down and think about how yikes that way of thinking is.

Lol, sit down and think how yikes (what?) is that you think eating poop is a sign of a healthy person.

Tbf people say the same about gay people or people into BDSM. I think the guy's a freak, but I don't think he should lose his job for it. Ain't nothing illegal and he isn't endangering anyone else, so let him be a freak.

The entire context of this thread is that he lost his job over leaked sexual acts.

I don't care if he's 100% healthy, he consented and was fine with it. It seems like everyone involved concented, unless he was purposely using his position to force the public to view his sex acts who cares. Let the man eat poop in privacy if that's what he really wants.

If he wants to see a therapist for it even cooler. Mans gotta work, poop ain't cheap!

Edit: now I'm wondering, do people who eat poop prefer expensive meals/high quality food. Can you tell if my poo was waygu?

I didn't say he should be punished for having a shitty taste in sexual acts (he he).

[Continued:]

You didn't say "punish him," but you did say "look down on him" and "it's good that he resigned over this."

... You do realize those are punishments, right?

The state of the site is questioned:

I can't believe I'm reading defenses of eating poop. This can be a weird place sometimes.

Reddit in the nutshell. Full of pseudo-philosophers who want to seem smart and edgy. MFs are literally fine with someone eating human shit. Idk anymore with this app :(

Legit.

Imagine a dysfunctional, shit eating human representing us...

Reddit hand-wringing is so lame. Can't they even have the balls to TYPE out condemnation? Even anonymously? Looks like they don't.

Look at Mr fucking brave over here. Must be tough to speak out against the crowd!

Bruh you're all over the thread defending a mentally ill shit eater 😂🤮

Biology is debated:

Humans dont eat poop. That is basic biology. We are not rabbits.

Basic biology hasn't stopped us from things like flying though.

What part of your biological body do you use for flying?

I use my feet to walk onto a plane that other people used their brains and hands to build.

Classic biped, gotta love it

#The Flairs:

• “Can you tell if my poo was waygu?”

• “Look at Mr fucking brave over here.”

• “you are either dumb or you are a shit eater”

The drama begins in this now deleted thread on /r/askatherapist.

From what I can recall, a member of the subreddit wanted to know if it was being actively moderated. As the members did some digging, they found suspicious account histories for the top moderators:

The longtime moderator of this subreddit, who was seemingly a BYU professor and therapist, had assigned several unusual accounts (ones that posted nothing but NSFW selfies) as moderators of the subreddit. One of the accounts even seemed to be a 19 year old BYU student who was posting nudes, and another was a 40 year old seeking BYU students for sexual encounters. When called out on this, all of the accounts got deleted.

The mods also deleted the main thread. As the members did more digging, they came to a shocking set of possibilities:

[The head mod was either] a BYU professor cosplaying as a 19-year-old student, or . . . a BYU professor who actually has a sexual relationship with his student).

The suspicious mods have deleted their accounts, only deepening the mystery.

I've screenshotted the main post in case it gets deleted. Some more context was crossposted here to another therapist subreddit.

I don't post here often, so I'll try to sum it up as best as I can.

On a post of a mother accidentally hitting her child while exercising, bunch of users are quick to blame the mother's activity for the incident occurring and start arguing.

Link to post: https://www.reddit.com/r/ParentsAreFuckingDumb/comments/1c2xvm7/pole_dancing_in_front_of_kid/

Some highlights:

-Some user thinking she's pregnant for some reason?

-"Yikes, you need a reality check."

-"Stupid hoe."

-User saying she's not wearing clothes when she... literally is? Huh?

Link to the post: https://www.reddit.com/r/fuckepic/comments/1bzx3mf/a_bot_army_was_unleashed_upon_twitter_to_promote/

Unfortunately, a lot of the juicy drama was deleted but there are still some gems left behind.

Highlights:

OP:

"I wonder who promoted this, SBI or Epic?"

A redditor responds:

"The SBI conspiracies are insane man. Just stop it."

Another redditor shares their 'reliable' sources:

"Yeah,I have been watching almost daily videos from ryan kinel,hypnotic,yellowflash 2,youngrippa 59,mr h reviews,geeks + gamers & a lot of others And the amount of mental gymnastics those woke fucks say is insane"

A rebuttal:

"Daily videos from those grifters absolutely have had a negative impact on your brain."

One redditor explains:

"There's a reason why the go-to protagonist is typically a cis man/woman - because that's the majority of the people on the planet and who they can relate to most. You want something else? That's fine , but there needs to be a reason for the character to be something else. A story built around it for that very purpose, otherwise you're only putting it there for the sake of it being there and people don't like that shit."

Another poster comments:

"As a general rule of thumb, if you see someone complaining about Sweet Baby Inc, you can guarantee that they’re one of the dumbest human beings you’ll ever have the misfortune of meeting."

And gets followed by a very intelligent response:

"CONSOOOOOM"

_

"I don’t like most of Ubisoft’s games these days. I think most of Star Wars is pretty bad. I likely will never buy that game. But I couldn’t care less about whether or not the protagonist makes my peepee hard"

_

"Action/adventure protagonists are always good looking and that's how it should be (the only times you see plain or not good looking male protagonists is in comedy, precisely because they get made fun of)."

#The Context:

A user posts a long compilation video of news stories about pitbulls attacking people to /r/videos.

Pitbull drama is nothing new for Reddit, however there is some absolutely exceptional slap fighting and flair in these comments making this familiar read very much worth your time.

#The Drama:

A bold statement is made:

The only good pitbull is a dead pitbull. 

Says the guy who buys anime fuck dolls lmao. Maybe we don't give a shit what you have to say.

Homie can have whatever sex toys he wants, and we’re all happy to hear what he has to say, especially if it’s that pit bulls should be assembly-line executed like diseased cattle.

Maybe people with dumb ass ideas should be.

Last time I checked "anime fuck dolls" don't kill children and landscapers on a regular basis 

Neither do pitbulls. If they did, there would be people whose opinion actually matters doing something about the breed. But guess what? They don't, so they won't.

My dude you’re commenting under a 23 minute video compilation of news reports on pit bulls killing children.

[Continued:]

And every single person who let those dogs roam or get to those children should be charged with murder.

So pit bulls are weapons bred for murdering people. Good to know.

If you are so stupid to think that's what it means to be negligent than good luck to you when the next rainstorm hits and you're stuck looking up at the cloud with your mouth open.

Yep I’m stupid. You are the king of the internet comments. I’m Gonna go eat some crayons. Bye.

Okay, I wish you well on your holy dog breed crusade that you're very informed of. Also, good luck to you the next time you're confronted with a dog while you're walking down the street. I know it must be a terrifying experience for you.

[…]

So you have sex with dolls and you have the nerve to say this?

I mean, that’s not true, but whatever you need to do to deflect from the fact that pittbulls are trash animals that should be eradicated. 

Lol nobody gives a fuk what this want to be thugs think about anything, on real life or here, you into Anime, whatever do your thing

The science is questioned:

Obligatory I don’t own a pitbull. The CDC and AVMA both have stated there is no solid evidence that pitbulls are inherently more violent. If you want to email them and ask them what the facts are, feel free.

AVMA

Their science is bullshit

Lol, pulling out an opinion website because you disagree with the facts is par for the course.

My opinion website vs yours.

The AVMA and CDC, famous opinion based websites.

Whats with you people claiming “facts” and then going into opinions as soon as the discussions turn to facts?

[Continued:]

I know you didnt actually look at the AVMA study since if you did you would see it isn't very scientific. So again, my opinion website vs yours.

I did, it’s a meta analysis. They link their studies at the bottom to prove their point. That’s how something is presented as a meta-analysis. Yours doesn’t have anything.

A meta analysis of opinions are still opinions my dude

Oh my god in that case ALL science is opinion and there's no point to publishing any studies

Shut the up

Comparisons are made:

If you drive a car, you're probably more likely to kill someone than a pitbull. That's just a fact I made up just now like you did.

So cute when you defend baby killers.

Are you defending humans? Disgusting!

Never! Humans are shit too

Do the right thing and put yourself down.

Ok but only after all the pits. Deal?

[Continued:]

This is an urgent matter. Best to get started right away!

My offer stands, bby

Nobody is stopping you from getting started. Go nuts.

Pits still being alive is stopping me!

Go out and start killing them dude. You're the chosen one!

[Continued:]

Going to take me a lifetime to kill them all which leaves me no time to kill myself smh

Sir. Please. "Put Down"... We don't want to be insensitive to the fact that we're suggesting that an animal should be killed simply because it looks like other dogs that have attacked humans.

One user takes a stand:

Ah cool, the daily Reddit thread talking about wanting the eradication of an animal. Edit - Every down vote I’ll pet a Pitbull :)

Yeah they don’t belong in society

Okay buddy.

I would never be buddies with someone who owns a pit bull lmao absolute trash

You’re a real cool dude lol

Further comparisons are made:

if there was a specific breed of human that has been intentionally bred for violence, then this analogy would make sense. but there isn't and it doesn't.

If only there was a history….The Spartans are the society that immediately come to mind. From birth, boys were inspected for physical deformities and if deemed to be a physically unfit baby, they were left to die or thrown off a mountain. This shows that the selection process for the army had begun, even from birth.

there isn't a Spartan breed still alive for people to be biased against, so the analogy remains a massive failure. 

try again? 

Greek people don’t exist?

are you arguing that Greek people are bred for violence? 

[Continued:]

Leaps and bounds you take. Greece is where spartan decedents would be…

answer the question. 

he can’t, he’s spending his day running his deplorable self in circles defending a dog breed for what? some karma and a little ego boost

You are so dumb for someone who thinks he's so smart. Like an enigma that should be studied.

Please donate your brain to science when you die so we can figure out what went wrong with you and prevent it in the future.

Ah thank you! I am an organ donor.

#The Flairs:

• Last time I checked "anime fuck dolls" don't kill children and landscapers on a regular basis

• “I’m Gonna go eat some crayons. Bye.”

• “Please donate your brain to science when you die so we can figure out what went wrong”

link to the post: https://www.reddit.com/r/BrandNewSentence/s/QCKNsezRur

some highlights, but there’s a lot of discussion all over the comments

• If you don’t want one, don’t get one. If you prevent your deaf kid from getting one because you believe this crap, you’re an awful parent and i will die on this hill.

• The problem with a child getting a cochlear implant is that they will never be able to hear at all without it. They're often gotten for children with incomplete deafness, and this completely deafens them without use of the implant. It's kind of a fucked up thing to choose for a kid, and they're often put in way before the kid is able to express any kind of opinion on it.

•And usually they're not against children having a normal life but that our society requires deaf to get surgery in order to have a normal life

•like, there are people out here would genuinely prefer there to be more disabled folks, because the alternate (less disabled folks) is a “genocide”. Some people just need a cause I guess.

•Remember when Jesus cured the blind man and he jumped up shouting, "Genocide! Genocide! He's killed me!"

•I stopped studying ASL partly because of how insufferable some deaf people can be.

Main Post: https://www.reddit.com/r/ClashRoyale/comments/1c2g5kl/everyone_who_did_the_lucky_drop_glitch_has_now/

Summary:

The developers of Clash Royale have issued permanent bans for people exploiting a glitch that allow users to re-roll lootbox drops. Many of the users insist the blame lies with the developers for having the bug in the first place:

it’s their fault for overlooking a bug used in literally any other game including theirs. with how much money their pumping from peoples pockets u would think one of the devs could think of this 🤦

If your game has a bug that can be exploited then it's a problem with your game not the people playing it

Apparently some prominent Clash YouTubers got banned for exploiting the glitch:

[It is a bit too much because those content creators may not be able to make income from their youtube career if they are banned and that is a bit too much for an exploit. But then again they are exposing the exploit to a load of players.

](https://www.reddit.com/r/ClashRoyale/comments/1c2g5kl/everyone_who_did_the_lucky_drop_glitch_has_now/kz9vlva/)

Or you know just take it on the chin? they fucked up, that's why the exploit exists, it's completely on them.

Other comments:

Guys is it fair that, after clicking I accept on the terms of service that specifically say I can get perma banned from using a bug, I get perma banned for using a bug? Idk guys, I just feel like there shouldn't be consequences to my actions :/

They don't ban people when they abuse a gamebreaking exploit but right when money is involved it'd serious

A fellow spectator of Internet drama

An expected response

A mod doing their due diligence

A minor slapfight trailing a removed comment

The OP engaging with their crowd

A complaint left unheard (but perhaps not unseen?)

Banter

A cryptic exchange

The whole thread

Unfortunately locked, but some minor drama nonetheless.

*** UPDATE 4/15: A NEW DAWN ***

A r/teslamotors mod, "OptimusBot", has posted a new statement on Sunday, April 14th regarding the recent wave of bans against Tesla-critical users over the past weekend:

"This is our side of the story. It was decided enough is enough."

r/RealTesla has shared the above post, with most users in the comments disagreeing with OptimusBot's statements. Some comments are also reporting new automatic bans from Tesla-positive communities, indicating that the efforts by Tesla communities to suppress RealTesla users from their subs is not over yet.

The recent drama has also apparently increased traffic to RealTesla, with the number of online users browsing the sub nearly doubling on average. One user said they "joined exclusively because of the ban".

While the flames have finally died down somewhat, one thing is clear: The tensions between pro-Tesla subs and anti-Tesla subs will more than likely persist for the foreseeable future.

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*** UPDATE 4/13: WAR HAS BEGUN ***

A mass-banning of all users critical of Tesla is currently underway. According to multiple reports on RealTesla, ALL users who have ever posted a comment or submission to r/RealTesla or r/EnoughMuskSpam are being automatically perma-banned from all Tesla-positive communities, including r/Cybertruck, r/ElonMusk, r/TeslaLounge, and r/teslamotors.

User "RandallC1212" explains in this post covering the current drama:

So it looks like Elno and his fanboys are banning everyone and everyone everywhere they can. Even those who haven’t posted negative comments are getting banned. Looks like they’re stalking comment threads on this sub and banning anyone they find across all their usual fanboys subs. Pathetic if you ask me and Reddit should step in since these mods are violating policy by indiscriminately banning people. The subs will be left with nothing but the truest of believers and become filled with self reinforcing propaganda worshipping at the alter of the racist megalomaniac owner. Good luck.

A moderator post from teslamotors reveals that "Tesla subs [are] doing research on users [in RealTesla] - to preemptively ban us": https://www.reddit.com/r/RealTesla/comments/1c327ot/tesla_subs_doing_research_on_users_here_to/

On top of that, there is at least one report of brigading by Tesla supporters against RealTesla users: https://www.reddit.com/r/RealTesla/comments/1c38qnp/anyone_noticed_an_uptick_in_brigading_recently/

More posts reporting bans:

• https://www.reddit.com/r/RealTesla/comments/1c38iuc/you_are_all_toxicthreatening/
• https://www.reddit.com/r/RealTesla/comments/1c33btu/didnt_even_post_at_thes_subs_ive_owned_a_tesla_btw/
• https://www.reddit.com/r/RealTesla/comments/1c3bs7g/are_all_4_subs_run_by_the_same_mods_what_the_hell/
• https://www.reddit.com/r/RealTesla/comments/1c37hu7/just_got_banned_from_4_elontesla_related_subs/
• https://www.reddit.com/r/RealTesla/comments/1c38ahc/banned_without_even_posting_in_sub/

Users on RealTesla share their frustrations: a post simply titled, "Elon musk is a fascist piece of shit." for example has gathered 800+ upvotes so far.

Another RealTesla user "St3fanz" is begging the pro-Tesla mods for a response and questions whether a bribe is involved: https://www.reddit.com/r/RealTesla/comments/1c34rf1/invitation_to_tesla_and_musk_sub_mods_explain/

"Explain your case for preemptive bannings. Confirm you are not receiving any sort of remuneration for this work. It is believed that it’s healthy for Reddit as a platform to understand your reasoning for “researching” users and banning them on the off chance they say something you may disagree with at some point in the future. This isn’t normal. Further, where will Reddit fall on this sort of preemptive suppression? The hours spent in this yeansparently coordinated endeavor are not insignificant. This has raised legitimate broad suspicion that money, or other forms of remuneration are at play. Can you comprehensively deny this?"

The bans expand outside of Tesla. According to this stickied post in r/CarsAustralia , users in that community are getting banned from the pro-Tesla subs as well, with exact reasons currently unknown. It is speculated by one user that this post of a Tesla parked awkwardly at a charger, posted today the 13th, may have been spotted by one of the pro-Tesla mods.

EnoughMuskSpam on the other hand is diverting discussion of these bans to this SRD thread.

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*** ORIGINAL POST (4/12) ***

"RealTesla" is a subreddit that discusses and shares negative/critical experiences regarding Tesla, its CEO Elon Musk, and Elon's other companies, describing itself as 'the home of Tesla discussion for those who haven't drank the Elon-Ade'. "TeslaLounge" and "TeslaMotors" on the other hand are the more 'official' Tesla subreddits and lean more towards supporting and praising the company along with sharing some issues with Tesla cars as well. RealTesla is known to frequently cross-post threads of car issues from the other Tesla subreddits.

One moderator of the two aforementioned 'pro-Tesla' subreddits, "rcnfive", has been aggressively defending Tesla and its controversial "Full Self Driving" feature, for example blaming a user - twice - and calling that user a "troll" and deleting his post - for his car hitting a curb while on FSD.

In response to a comment complaining about the Technology subreddit being anti-Tesla, a rather frustrated rcnfive has finally had enough:

All of reddit hates Tesla/Elon/Anything with Elon. Do you know how much toxic shit we see? Big changes are to come to the sub and the Lounge.

And to a since-deleted reply to that above comment apparently criticizing rcnfive:

You are part of the reason why this sub and the Lounge will be changing. People like you come in here to say random shit with no backing and leave. You come here to create trouble. [...] Looks like you come from RT [RealTesla] sub. Well that explains it all. Ill show you door.

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Things start to take off when another user, "julp", posts of his Tesla hitting the curb while on FSD as well. RealTesla, unsurprisingly, cross-posts this to their sub. rcnfive responds in the original thread by, once again, blaming OP, suggesting they should have taken control of the car sooner as it hit the curb. A RealTesla user "rideShareTechWorker" responds to the mod by stating this suggestion may not be possible given the car's fast speed at the time of the incident, but his comment is instead deleted and hidden and the account perma-banned from TeslaLounge. rcnfive locks julp's post as well. rideShareTechWorker makes a post about his banned comment in RealTesla.

Users in the anti-Tesla sub react:

• "They’re really trying to hold the narrative that FSD is infallible and only the driver can make mistakes. That’s not going to hold water for long lol"
• "it's like getting banned from rNorthKorea at this point."
• "Why do they lock threads that aren't tonguing the asshole of the company?"
• "Its a loosing [sic] battle for the sub. As more and more people get pissed off - they will post what they are pissed about."

Another RealTesla user also got banned for effectively making the same comment to rcnfive's post:

• Hey, I was also banned for a very similar comment under that exact mod. And I own a fucking Tesla. My comment: “At 40mph that’s less than a single second worth of scraping. Just saying. Can do the math if you’d like.”

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"rcnfive" takes notice of RealTesla's involvement in the curb rash drama:

Edit- looks like the RT sub has picked up on this and has crossposted this, hello RT sub. You will not like me. Going forward there will be a big change with you guys.

In response to a TeslaLounge user suggesting any images of Tesla curb rash to be banned to defend the legitimacy of FSD, rcnfive effectively declares war on RealTesla and other anti-Tesla subreddits and users by announcing currently-unknown changes to the pro-Tesla subreddits, making this statement:

Things will be changing. I have a working doc that the TL and TM mods can see what will be changing. A lot is coming and I will be pissing off a lot of people. I am going to be super blunt with the reddit users which we all know will not go well. The reddit hivemind will not like what will happen.

I will be downvoted to hell and back. Mark my words. The TeslaLounge will change for the better. Please give me a few more weeks and you will see a post maybe posts on what's going on. I want the old Lounge back. I want the TM comments to not be full of hate. I want dumb shit like [julp's curb rash] post to be gone from the lounge.
If anyone wants to help please keep an eye out for looking for more mods. Also use that report button if you don't want to be a mod. Reporting things helps a ton.

Have the first shots already been fired? Most RealTesla users in their thread are now saying they are all getting banned from pro-Tesla subs before even commenting in them:

• "omg lmfao - I went to point this out by replying to the same exact comment. and found I was already banned there!? LMFAO. I don't recall ever even hearing the name of the sub before. so, basically - I feel I was prematurely banned to prevent pointing out common sense things like this. thank you for doing good work here - they banned you. which means you must be telling the truth"
• "I was just banned from the musk worship sub and I've never even posted there. Huh, what other sub used to do that... something about a well known orange-painted loser comes to mind."
• I got banned from all 3 tesla related subs for cross posting that post and copying the mod's comment.
• "rcnfive hope this clown at least gets paid by tesla. Edit: HAHA instantly banned from elonmusk where, of course, this clown of a cheerleader is also a mod"

At least two users in RealTesla hypothesize that "rcnfive" is actually Elon Musk, given that the mod's comments appear to have similar wording to Elon's tweets. But this has not been confirmed...yet.

More updates are likely to surface if rcnfive's "big changes" to the Tesla subs come to fruition in the following weeks as promised.