I'm rereading book 1, which is why it's missing. Consider this a PSA crossover for IKEA dimensions. Adding book 1 back will make it nice and snug. I don't know why, but this makes me really happy.

I’m seeing a lot of Egwene hate on here and I’m genuinely curious to learn why.

She takes a long time to come around and is often frustrating in the first half of the series, but I found her plot to unify the white tower in Knife of Dreams and Gathering Storm to be a series high-water mark, and she gets a lot of great moments, especially in the last third of the series.

Very interested in dissenting perspectives!

What are Lan and Rand talking about here? Having trouble remembering.

Iv got several, but this is top

“Cadsuane, do you believe that I could kill you? Right here, right now, without using a sword or the Power? Do you believe that if I simply willed it, the Pattern would bend around me and stop your heart? By . . . coincidence?”

What would The WoT adult Craigslist look like?

• The aforementioned Sisters, where the private dancers never lie. Sunday nights is Accepted night on the main stage.
• Saidin/Saidar linked massage
• Cauthon’s Escorts: good for a dance and a cuddle

Doing my first re-read, just finished Knife of dreams where Galina failed to escape, BRUTAL. Rare karma moment.

Also smug Suroth getting massively busted by Tuon.

One of my favorite of all time is Mat versus Galad and Gawyn with a quarterstaff.

Put em in the comments! This book gets me so passionate about different people and different scenes I just love a good deserved Karma moment.

I just finished book 4 so I have quite a bit to go I realize. I finished 1-3 in 3 weeks but took much longer to finish 4. Also noticed I did not do as good of a job at fully paying attention. Do most people take breaks in between each book or does everyone just plow through them without stopping?

Somebody needs to make some wheel of time dust jackets. I wanted the juniper ones when they were like 225 dollars and didn’t pull the trigger. Now they are 375$ for 15 pieces of paper.

Look, the juniper covers are great but how can I justify 15 pieces of matching paper is equal to a gaming system??

Can someone not as greedy just make a set for under 150?

Anybody have any luck out there?

Egwene is exceptionally stupid in towers of midnight. Most of this reeks of the arrogance of the matriarchy. Anyway, that's the post. Egwene for prez.

What name would you give your Wheel of Time fast food restaurant? Bellaburger’s where no horseflesh is too tough! The Great Hunt, hunt that horse down!

In the scene where Aviendha flees to the snow storm, we see that she makes a gateway. Where did she learn that weave? The last I remember hearing/seeing gateways was at the end of the previous book where Moiraine is stunned to silence when Rand makes one. Did I miss something?

Robert Jordan had some great and original ideas and to see them properly fleshed out in an Adult Fantasy way instead of a Young Adult Fantasy way could have been something truly wonderful.

I would love to have seen The Aes Sedai and the White Tower given much more prominence and page space. For example imagine if Moiraine and Siuan had managed to track down the infant Rand and along with select members of the Blue Ajah had been keeping an eye on him in secret. Then when the Red Ajah finally got wind of it they would have had every reason to be outraged. It would have made more sense of Elaida's push to overthrow Siuan. And instead of being the megalomaniac moustache twirling villain we got Elaida could have been a rational player from the Red Ajah's point of view. In fact I think I would have liked to see Elaida and Cadsuane combined into the one character.

And the debate within the Aes Sedai about gentling all the men who could channel and thereby culling the gene pool for channelling could also have played into this. And the Green Ajah could have been conspiring along with others to protect men who could channel for the purposes of selective breeding. This would have helped to explain where all of the Asha'man suddenly came from too.

Does anyone have any other story elements in WoT that they would like to have seen given a more Adult Fantasy treatment in the books and care to share ?

It has been more than a year since I finished the saga and since I love it I have had the impulse to buy merchandise such as figures, decals, or decorations. Hogever, I have found nothing but Aes'sedai rings.

I’m about to start Lord of Chaos but I’m wondering if I should. I really struggled with book five (thought it was kind of boring) and my cousin tells me that books five and six are the best in the series. Should I continue?

I finished book 4 yesterday, so far my favorite by far, nonstop good shit. But I didn't quite understand how the portals worked at the end. On the whole Im just really confused on what exactly happened in that part(the chase). Rand goes through some door and then has to run in some place that is affected by his thoughts but on the way back he just steps in and out. If someone could breakdown exactly what happened in these parts that would be great.

I am just finishing up The Great Hunt and planning on heading straight to Dragon Reborn. I read EOTW and immediately picked up Great Hunt, just asking for advice here. How do you guys recommend reading the series? Breaking it up every 3 and giving it some time or heading straight into it? I definitely can and in a way kind of want to just keep going but it’s such a large series with fairly dense books. What do you recommend?

I'm plowing into Knife of Dreams right now, and I've loved Mat's story, and been okay with Perrin, but I watched a CoT review that very insightfully captured the problem with Elayne's Andor plotline. Essentially: there are zero stakes to whether or not Elayne gets Andor. Other than 'I want to be the queen, and I'll be sad if I don't'.

The last battle is coming. Rand is changing the nature of reality. Mat is weaving himself into a marriage with the heir to the Seanchan throne. Egwene is battling for the future of the entire white tower. And Elayne... wants to be a Queen, so she's camping out in a castle trying to convince people to let her be a Queen, because her mother was a Queen and told her she will be the next Queen.

Basically the entirety of her plotline here is 'because I want to'. She could even just be Queen in Cairhien, that's fine too. And whoever would be Queen instead of Elayne would blatantly support the Dragon anyway, so there's zero need for her to win personally, from a 'fighting the Last Battle' PoV.

It struck me that this is the crux of the reason her plotline makes up the majority of the slog. There is almost zero reason to care if she succeeds or not.

Do you agree?

Books are on a pretty good sale right now. I read the books three times over the years (up to what was released at least) and watching the show made me miss the real story. Listening to the audiobooks has been great for me and I’d recommend them to anyone else that misses the story but wants to try it in a different medium.

Just finished Fires of Heaven, fantastic read. I complained about Nynaeve on a previous post and the bones of her character reformation were already detectable before I finished FoH. It was cool to see Mat finally coming into a role of his own, but now that I'm in LoC I'm excited to finally get more of the Best Fella, Perrin. I do have to say, though, writing a prologue with 80 pages is that greed they talk about in the Bible, and Jordan's editors must have been high on that good 80s cocaine to let him do that shit.

Whole series spoilers FYI

I recently read someone describe the archetype of dualities represented by Perrin/Slayer, and similarly how Fain was the shadow of Mat’s archetype, and it made the resolution of both of their character arcs more satisfying.

I summarized it pretty roughly in a reply here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/WoT/s/ZPkM43sPiN

But I can’t remember where I read it. The OP did a more thorough job describing it than I did, and I kinda wish I knew who put the ideas together so I could give them credit for it. It’s a really interesting layer of analysis, and it really does feel intentional by RJ, so I feel like the idea should get more love.

Just my $0.02, but I’m sure there are others who would appreciate reading it as well, if anyone else happens to be familiar with it.

Cheers!

And that's what she said, baby!

Now I'm almost halfway through Knife of Dreams, I think I am finally understanding that the first-time through is designed to be this incredible and infuriating. Sometimes i've felt like I've been suffering through this series but I also know that I wouldn't have it any other way!

A lot of walking around scenes, a lot of just sitting down at the table scenes, a lot of moments where Im sat here thinking ''where the hell is this even GOING ?'' followed by scenes that I love with scenes that I hate. A lot of chattering scenes filled to the absolute brink with miscommunication resulting in some stupid, STUPID decision-making. A lot of two-page inner monologues describing every damn sleeve with every damn dress and every damn coat AS WELL AS every damn tree branch ON EVERY DAMN TREE.

One minute you’re completely hooked, and the next, you're just pulling your hair in frustration. I love how much more I still have yet to read while also being EXHAUSTED by it too and, still, I wouldn't have it any other way.

Cause with that, we get to laugh out loud only for our hearts to be pulled and tugged and stamped on three pages later. With that, we get the friendships, the loves, the betrayals, the battles, the madness of those battles, the madness of saidin, the madness of it all, really.

It’s not just a high-stakes epic with battles and dark forces at work—it’s also about the weight of history, the burden of leadership, the complexity of human emotion, and the price of power. The villains are phenomenal to read and glorious in their heinous deeds, the heroes are complex and multi-faceted and I know that once I'm done reading this series and jumping back into the re-read, it will all have been worth it.

Okay, I'm gonna head back to book 11 now I'm done ranting and finally finish this series. Looking forward to finally reaching the top of the mountain soon!

Ok- so we see in the books that men can sense when women can channel. If a woman uses the weave to hide her ability to channel/inverts her weaves. Would this be something detectable? Not sure if it’s canon just very curious about people’s thoughts on this matter.

Just finished The Dragon Reborn…definitely the best book so far for me. I loved reading about Egwene/Nynaeve/Elayne sneaking around the tower doing their little mission. I wish they spent more of the book in the tower, and I wish more time was dedicated to the studying aspect of being a novice/accepted, but it was still really fun. I love these girls so much I want to keep them in my pocket and keep them safe (especially Egwene). Anyway I really wanted to capture their cute dynamic and draw them giggling on Nynaeve’s floor.

I was wondering if we had any reading groups set up? I’ve read the whole series a few times and I’d love to have a few local nerds to talk the books with lol anyone else interested comment with your general area and see if we can get something going! I’ll start, I live on the peninsula in the Bay Area.

It’s only the second book but I’ve already found myself falling in love with this world! The first book took me awhile to get into due to its rather slow pacing and how Tolkien-esque it felt, but I was hooked from the start with this one, and can feel the series becoming its own thing.

The world building is just so scrumptious! Every mention of the age of legends has me wanting for more! How strong were the Aes Sedai back then? Does Rand match up to them? I’m loving it. I’ve also enjoyed what little politicking we’ve got of the White Tower so far as I love some good ol’ politics in my fantasy. I have to say I would love to see the white cloaks wiped out lol.

I’ve found all the characters to be really interesting so far, with my current favourites being Rand, Moiraine, Loial & Perrin. I do agree with the comments on Rand feeling bland at the beginning of the series, which is something I felt more strongly about in The Eye of the World, but he’s already changed so much from just the last book and has me excited to just how much more he will by the end (especially with the madness). Thankfully no one’s POV was a chore to get through with each one having their own event going on that I was invested in which I hope continues to be a theme.

There are some characters that I’m rather mixed on like Egwene, who annoys me with her regular bouts of hypocrisy, which in fair to her does seem to be a common trait of WoT characters just with her being a lead runner. I did enjoy her chapters though, as her arc with the Seachan was one of my favourite parts of the book and legit had me cheering and my blood pumping when she put the leash on Renna and regretful when Nynaeve stopped her from doing more.

Mat is another one that I’m currently lukewarm on, as I feel he hasn’t really got a lot of chance to shine so far because of the dagger sucking his life, but just like with the horn when he does get his moment he kills it! Hoping for more of his POV where’s he not just half dead in the background of other people’s POV’s as he seems like a character I’ll love.

Surprisingly found myself liking Nynaeve a lot more this book, which I didn’t expect as she was one my least favourites of book one largely in part because of her aggressive personality that had her constantly trying to one up Moiraine, but that was less of an issue for me this time and I found her abrasive attitude less grating and actually enjoyed her character a lot more. Onto the next!

This jumped out at me at the liquor store, had to grab it. It’s stout season anyhow.