During the clone wars are there any factions/planets that have dwarf like humanoids (not hairy like ewoks and not jawas) I have a project to convert some models, but struggling to think. The first idea is ugnauts

Obi-Wan passed on the way of the war crime.

One of the most common criticisms about the portrayal of Grievous in TCW is that he constantly gets defeated, is not as threatening or menacing, and does not provide the same sense of terror as he did in the 2003 show.

However, stop and consider, whose eyes is TCW most shown through? Anakin, Obi Wan, and Ahsoka. 3 of the most proficient force wielders of all time. Of course Grievous would lose most efforts against them. Forget plot armor and episodic writing, these are some of the BEST in the entire Galactic Army of the Republic.

What happens when Grievous does not go up against the best of the best? He Kills Nahdar Veb and nearly Kit Fisto, commanded a ship with a super weapon that wiped out nearly all of the Wolfpack and almost Plo Koon, captured Eeth Koth (admittedly this plan was stupid, but he caputed a member of the jedi council), nearly successfully stole the DNA of the Clone Army along with leading a very damaging attack on Kamino (literally destroyed thousands of clone embryos along with thousands killed by the invasion), captured Adi Gallia, MASSACRED DATHOMIR QUITE LITERALLY ALMOST ERASING AN ENTIRE RACE OF PEOPLE killing Mother Talzin and old Daka.

This just a brief list of some of his major accomplishments. I opted not to include the invasion of coruscant as that was mostly scripted by Palpatine to ensure his capture. There are more within books and comics not mentioned by me.

Listen, I get it. Grievous arguably WAS cooler in the 2003 animation. However, he also wasn’t as vocal or fleshed out as a character.

If you really think about it, the Grievous we see in the 2003 doesn’t feel the same as the grievous in ROTS. The depiction in TCW feels much more in line with his characterization.

So, is the 2008 depiction as frightening or murderous as the 2003/legends version? No. But quite honestly I think its unfair to write him off completely. Most of the time we saw him, he had to deal with Anakin, Obi Wan and Ahsoka. Its pretty tough to come out on top when you go up against characters with not only plot armor , but are also some of the most powerful force users in the galaxy.

Here is the list on where are the main characters are in 17 BBY:

• Ahsoka Tano: laying low for awhile and helping Bail Organa

• Captain Rex: doing his own Clone Rebellion and helping Senator Chuchi

• Anakin Skywalker: Darth Vader….

• Obi Wan Kenobi: lives on Tatooine watching someone

• Commander Cody: went AWOL

• Padmé Amidala: DEAD

• Yoda: lives on Dagobah meditating

• Asajj Ventress: doing her Bounty Hunting thing

• Barriss Offee: presumably on the run from the Inquisitors

• Bo-Katan Kryze: trying to re-take Mandalore again

• Mace Windu and the Jedi members: all DEAD

• Hondo Ohnaka: doing his own Pirate thing

• Maul: building his Crimson Dawn

Here are list, so if I miss a lot name one on the comment section. Yes I know people know this already but I’m just showing where the characters are during 17 BBY.

So the other day I posted about starting the clone wars and it’s been kind of dark which I like. I’m currently on season two episode three and WOW!! The show is not what I expected and I love it.

In The General Rex heard from Kenobi to attack the airbase. In Carnige of Krell he heard from another clone that the enemy was taking their armor and weapons. Yes Krell was bad, no doubt about that, but when the clones start questioning and debating why didn’t Rex say anything about the other people who spoke about it. Sure his strategies on how to go about it was not right to them but Rex was explicitly told from others the same thing that Krell had him tell the battalion. Especially that the umbarans taking thier weapons and armor.

In Phantom Menace we meet the leaders of the gungans Boss Nass and the other leaders that Obi-Wan, Qui-Gon meet wham Jar-Jar brings them underwater. What happened to Boss Nass and the other leaders? Why is it Boss Lyonie the leader and the council doesn’t exist?

This pretty much hinges on the reveal that Pong Krell was an intentional saboteur angling to help the Separatists and attach himself to Dooku, Because he foresaw the Jedi order being destroyed and wanted to selfishly join the new order.

It's an idea that works and lines up well with what precedes it, no doubt, it's definitely not badly written, but I think it would have been way more interesting, and way more conducive to the themes of the series if he foresaw the Jedi being destroyed, but his angle from there was to win the Clone War at any and all cost, to save the galaxy from what would come after, mistaking the Empire of his visions as the result of a separatist victory. becoming obsessed with victory to the point of blind stupidity and callousness in preventing a much greater evil.

his actions are still thus ultimately awful and conducive with his motive, but this would make him feel less of a caricature and more of a biting indictment of the whole "Peacekeepers becoming Generals" and the way that "greater good" thinking can often lead to atrocities. making him both a more complex character and a better extension of the series overall arcs that we see touched on with Barriss and Anakin.

I'll go first: Captain Lock

I know some commanders/antagonists use some other ships but why do we almost always see CIS fleets made out of MUNIFICENTS and no other cooler ships like the providence.

What was that all about?

From a narrative perspective, what exactly was the point of having Obi Wan openly flirt with Ventress all throught TCW when the show had already established a love interest for him in the person of Satine? Why give him such an obvious soft spot for Ventress?

Now don't get me wrong, I do enjoy their playful banter, but was that truly necessary? What does that add to his character? If anything, it actually raises some questions: how come the poster boy of the Jedi Order would entertain even jokingly a dark force user? He should be apalled at the sight of her, not check her out every time he gets the chance.

Do you think it's possible that Barriss Offee reconciled with Ahsoka Tano off-screen? Barriss did mention an old friend of hers in "The Way Out". Barriss was probably referring to Ahsoka.

This is the smallest detail ever and I just for once wanted to get on a platform and point at some shit from my soap box and say “tHaT’s nOt RiGhT”

We know that Clone Trooper “Echo” dies in season 3, escaping the citadel where in season 7 we ultimately learn that he was recovered, captured and then mined for information.

In that episode of S3, the clones were still in phase 1, Though Arc troopers were the prelim designs for phase 2 standard armor (In less nerd I mean they looked like P2 armor in P1 yes) but never the less everyone was in phase 1.

In the first episode of S7 Rex is seen reminiscing over this photo they show on screen which shows the troopers together all in Phase 2 armor which would’ve been an impossible image to have then in real.

I know I could’ve simply said the armors in the picture are not right but for the first time in my life I wanted to yap and say I paid more attention than the animators/screenwriter cared to. Thank you for reading if you cane this far.

What’s up. I’m rewatching Fives’s inhibitor chip arc.

What always, always annoys me to no end is how stupid the Jedi are. Unpopular opinion maybe, but Yoda is a terrible leader, advisor, and I hold him and Mace solely responsible for the fate of the Jedi. When would “meditative action” ever be the appropriate response to a clone saying he has evidence of a plot against the Jedi. Especially if what warranted all his investigative action was a clone literally killing a Jedi. What the council should have done was continue investigating the clone embryos for the conspiracy fives mentioned to ensure that the inhibitor chip doesn’t function to specifically target them. Or something along those lines. What happened to proactive action, the Jedi are just so stupid.

The funniest thing is that it made me realize that Anakin’s revenge of the sith turn was a force balancing act in itself, not just years later when he destroyed sidius as vader. When he destroyed the Jedi temple and the future Jedi force (the children, although R.I.P.). Balance is not found in the Jedi fighting proxy wars against lifeless beings, or remaining in a defensive position. More to the point, the clone wars simply had to end the way it did, because it wasn’t the difference between good and bad. Sure you can say the Jedi were good. But Sidius is a genius in that he understood that the Jedi weren’t a balancing act, the way they claimed themselves to be.

They were a power which had too much pride in their preservation and authority, but didn’t use either to fight the real fights. His intellect comes in though when he implemented that knowledge to gain power. The Jedi’s biggest mistake, as a race, a people, was entering into a coexistent relationship with government to begin with. And the sith’s most W move was leading that government. They sacrificed their purpose and function, whenever that conscious decision was made. The sith are bad though because they do bad things, that go against life. Which leads me to another point that the Jedi are STUPID because whatever war they fought, they should’ve made sure that it was a war that was helping them uncover the identity of the sith, not aid worlds in solving their own disputes and further enable the spread of a single government authority.

So…to conclude…

Thanks for listening to my spiel on why Mandalore is thee perfect setting for the peak of thee GREATEST JEDI ARK to ever exist (Ahsoka’s). Need I explain why?

Not really a cartoon guy, that’s why I never watched it. But I forced myself to watch it because I was told about the legitimacy and amazing stories. Wowzer! Have I been surprised! Some dark episodes for a cartoon. I like it!

Mine has to be the Umbara arc but I’m sure that’s mentioned a lot and I’m pretty basic for saying that but it’s so good!

Why do the jedi seem to just be hanging out on Coruscant a lot during the clone wars series? Like Anikan is on Coruscant at least once a season, you’d think he’d be out leading battles instead of helping Padme with party planning? And how does the second highest Jedi Mace Windu have time to go help some random neutral planet with Jar Jar? Not to mention Yoda just chilling at the temple pretty much all the time… he never leads a battle until Kashyyyk.

Obviously these are just the way episodes are written but it’s kind of lore breaking.

Do you think the old friend Barriss Offee mentioned in "The Way Out" is Ahsoka Tano?

Waxer: "Hey, there you are!" [pats Numa on the head in relief]

Boil: "Good, you caught her. You know, I have binders if we need 'em."

🤣🤣🤣

It’s for a lego moc of a LAAT/i filled with 501st clones and I’m trying to have the right number of clones, I know they can carry up to 30 but it doesn’t seem anywhere near that amount, I’m trying to base myself of the umbara battle, I estimate they had about 12-15 clones in each LAAT/i, can someone confirm or deny ?

Do you think Barriss Offee is dead for real? She was impaled by the Fourth Sister in "The Way Out", but Dave Filoni has a thing for keeping certain characters alive.

Canonically, the Clone Wars only lasted three years. In season 2 of CW, Rex and his men discover the deserter, Cut, and he has two kids.

How can this be? At this point in the war it’s been about a year, but his kids seem like their ages range between 4-8, and they definitely look like human/twi’lek mixes.

I’ve seen the show several times and only put it together on this watch through.

Recently I've been watching through the show but just character specific. The wiki says he's in all of these episodes, but what I want to know is how important is he in all of them?

• "Clone Cadets"
• "Rookies" (First appearance)
• "ARC Troopers"
• "The Citadel"
• "Counterattack"
• "Citadel Rescue"
• "Darkness on Umbara"
• "The General"
• "Plan of Dissent"
• "Carnage of Krell"
• "The Unknown"
• "Conspiracy"
• "Fugitive"
• "Orders"

Because to me they aren't worth watching (I've watched through the whole series twice, so I'm not missing anything if I do) if he's just in the background with a few lines. Does anyone have this stuff memorized? The further I've got the more stupid this sounds, maybe I should just watch all of them lol.

To set the scene for peeps who may not be aware, Barriss Offee was a legacy character in TCW. Meaning she was already an established character before the show’s existence, and as far as PT era Jedi side characters went she was decently developed as an individual. A wise but still inexperienced Jedi healer who detested violence, and had great empathy and sensitivity for those hurting.

Mainly from the Legends novel ‘An Approaching Storm’ and the Medstar Duology.

With these, Barriss had been established as essentially a model Padawan. Wise beyond her years, but not perfect. She overcame her brushes with the Dark Side, and proved herself to truly be Luminara’s student. She even had a Padawan herself briefly until she was killed in Order 66.

All this however would essentially be thrown out with the 2008 The Clone Wars. With her character becoming a terrorist rather suddenly, falling to the Dark Side and betraying Ahsoka. Her legacy being forever tarnished in the greater fandom as TCW was such a popular show in which many of the modern Star Wars fans grew up on. It is difficult to not see that this was a case of Filoni, as he often demonstrated many times, overruling what was then Canon in favour of uplifting his own arcs and characters. In this case, he had used Barriss as a tool to progress Ahsoka’s arc, with little regard to how Barriss’ own characterisation was damaged with an action that was very inexplicable.

That said though, I don’t actually entirely hate the general direction of her character that TCW put her on. It sure beats her getting stomped on by a walker on Felucia during Order 66. I could learn to dig it, but it needs to be fleshed out more. Something TCW didn’t do, but something that have an opportunity to correct with Tales of The Empire.

With her role in Tales of The Empire coming up soon, I would hope that some nuance to Barriss can be reintroduced in the same vein it was for Dooku (Who had pretty much been a standard villain during TCW). I don’t expect her to survive, but I’m deeply hoping that this miniseries will remind us of who Barriss truly was, which is a compassionate healer. Even in spite of what she did in the New Canon, Barriss isn’t cut out for being a generic Inquisitor, and I hope her true personality shines through here in a way it didn’t in TCW.

I certainly don’t agree with all the “I hope Vader kills her as soon as he sees her” takes, which just favours short term gratification to telling an actual interesting arc.

Nonetheless I’m excited to see her again this weekend

Thanks for reading!