I'm 34 and have had adhd my whole life i FINALLY got diagnosed but have to take a ua test that goes to the lab along with other labs. I don't want to mess this up and it's all on me because I don't have a deadline and can take my UA whenever i want because i dont have an appointment set yet and am suppose to after i get it done.. Been off subs for awhile and had a little relapse took them for 3 weeks straight at 1 8mg strip a day I've been clean since Jan 22nd now and it's Feb 2nd today been drinking alot of water and working out(running) daily. I'm not getting back on subs after i get my meds so no worries about that. But any advice here of when I should be 100 percent safe to take my UA thats going to the lab? Would be devastating to mess this up as most of my habits stem from dealing with undiagnosed adhd.. thanks in advance.

I can’t afford to get prescribed (I know it’s dumb) so I bought some subject online. I tested it for fent and it was clean. I noticed if I take a dose in the evening, by 12 pm the next day I’m shaky and extremely nauseous. I had been on suboxone for years prior and I know you could go a day or two without feeling any withdrawal symptoms.

You guys!!! I made it 500 days!!!

If you’re just starting out, know that you too CAN DO IT! Just keep pushing thru.

I’m so dang proud of myself, and all of us who’ve decided to take our lives back!

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I been on subs before and got off of them with no issues. I decided to try kratom and I had zero clue how it would made me feel, I was only familiar with kava. Next thing you know, I have spent $5k on kratom extracts in 3 months and take 120-160mg of 7oh daily. I would be in withdrawal every 4-5 hours. I havent been sick since I got on subs and its been a blessing. Sometimes I forget to take my dose and its only been 2 days.

Hey all!

So my dad has been on subs for a few years now after a prior fucked up pain doctor got him hooked (dude was prescribing my 70 year old dad 120 20mg oxycodone pills per month!!!) then dropped him out of the blue at a refill appointment saying “I can’t risk my license.” ANYWAY. They weren’t helping so he wanted off. New pain mgmt dr has been great for him and sees him monthly to renew his sub rx.

But then something happened at his last appointment that made me feel anxious on dad’s behalf (I’m chronically ill and probably have some bias bc I’ve been toyed with by drs too much already) His Dr came in and said “I can no longer treat you” “why?” “Because your urine is showing me you’re still taking oxycodone. And I won’t prescribe suboxone to you now.” Dad thankfully fought for himself, saying he hasn’t had a pill in years which is true and demanded a urine test bc he didn’t get where this info came from as he hasn’t provided one that day. Well, no shit, it came back clear of oxycodone. Subs only. So he barely apologized and just sent in the scrip. Could he have confused his info? It just sounded so off and really unprofessional to me so I really don’t know what tot make of anything. Not a huge deal as my dad still has his meds but I’m worried about that happening again now.

I was doing around 1g a day of low quality brown heroin for around a month

I used to be on Oxy. Quit several times. Relapsed and so on. Got too expensive. Stopped for a little while but eventually found a dope spot.

I snorted my last lines 24hrs ago

I woke up with stomach aches. I knew it was WD
So I took 1mg of Bupe and ran to the bathroom

So far the symptoms are pretty mild since it’s only Day 1. Diarrhea, cold sweats, mood swings, no energy, etc… The Bupe didn’t hurt even if it was a very low dose

I got a bunch of 2mg pills stashed and a script

I don’t want to be stuck on Bupe for years

I don’t have any comfort meds. Might get some Valium sometime next week. But definitely not guaranteed
No access to Gabapentin or Pregabalin either

Should I try to use Bupe for a 7 days taper ? If so, how should I go about it ?

Or try to go CT and pray I don’t relapse ?

Hello all, I've been on Suboxone for about 6 months. I was initially on 4mg per day followed by Brixadi for 2 months (the 128mg shot not sure if im remembering the dosage exactly correctly), and then was put on 6mg suboxone. The taper was painless from 6mg to 5mg to 4mg to 3mg to 2mg, which happened over the course of months. At 1mg I started getting some symptoms. Currently I've been on 0.5mg for 3 weeks but the symptoms started getting worse (??) I was under the impression that the withdrawals would go away completely by a month's time, and I'm getting ready to make the jump to 0mg next week with doctor's approval.

Anyway over the past week there has been more restlessness and I wake up very early (around 5am). The hot flashes are gone for the most part, nothing like in the beginning at 0.5mg. But today marks the 3 week point from my dose reduction and for some reason the symptoms are not waning in intensity other than not feeling as cold and not getting hot flashes.

Can someone that's been through this give me a timeline for when I'll start getting better? Also, when I make the jump to 0mg, will there still be another month of enduring symptoms or will that be shortened due to the fact that I've already been going through the withdrawals?

Does tolerance go up over time? I've been taking 3mg a day for about 4 months. The first couple months were fine but now i can't sleep more then 4 or 5 hours every night and when I wake up i feel terrible. I'm wondering if my tolerance went up and the subs are wearing off while I'm sleeping.

Been on subs for over 4 years and I’m sitting in bed taking my meds and my ankles and calves hurt really bad right now. I also get severe Charlie horses and cramps in my feet and calves mainly but my joints also hurt like my knee and shins and ankles and even my wrist and elbows. I run a office so I stand and sit for long periods but I have a incline treadmill I use 3-6 days a week for 30 min at a time minimum to stay healthy and help my legs and body circulate blood. The exercise and stretching helps temporarily sometimes but then come bed time or while I’m sleeping the cramps and spasm happen. I have always had muscle spasm all over even when I was a teenager but the sub makes it worse for sure. I feel like my whole body is becoming achey and stiff from sub no matter what I do. I drink tons of water and am super healthy diet with vitamins etc so it’s not any of that as excuse it’s for sure this medicine no doubt. Just wish I could find a way to fix it or at least improve it

Came off kratom to subs been about a month...no withdrawals really stable on 2mgs in the morning 1 at night...I'm having trouble eating tho went to the store got some fruit and stuff but I'm eating like 1 meal a day and snacks...I have a fast metabolism so I need to eat at least 2 may have lost some weight...just looking for someone with similar experience and what u did everything else is fine...the doctor even said I could try an start weaning if possible haven't tried yet but plan too

I just got my forklift certification.. I wasn’t certified through a company, i paid out of pocket for the training.. I just now realized that i have to pass a UA to get a job operating a forklift.. Obviously weed is an automatic no go, but i’m curious if being on suboxone would prevent me from being hired… I live in Washington state if that matters

I'm actually worried here. Dr. Reddy.... and others. Just pretty damn about to reserch..

So I recently started on suboxone to get off kratom. I started subs about three weeks ago at 2 mg a day. I’ve been tapering every 3-7 days in an attempt to get off as soon as possible. Currently I am at aprox .87mg in a 24 hour period. In my attempt to get off kratom, I heard that psilocybin can help with addiction so I’ve been taking them every 3-6 months, sometimes longer. But have not taken them since starting suboxone. Has anyone taken shrooms on suboxone? If so, any experiences worth sharing?

Your Dr. can include instruction on the script ‘brand name only’. It works in Canada.

You may have to pay the difference in some cases, depending on insurance.

Please let me start by saying this. I am not the best writer and often struggle with trying to put what I am feeling into words. I am going to do my best here, if something here is unclear, please feel free to quote it and ask more and I will gladly do my best to explain better. Thank you for understanding.

Hey all, as I am sure you have seen in the title.. I think I am ready. My next appointment is in office to further discuss the shot for the FOLLOWING appointment.. March would be my first month on the shot if I proceed. First I would like to thank you for taking the time to read this and if you decide to share some experience or hope, Thank you so much as well.

I have been taking roughly 8 to 12mg Per day for the last 5 or 6 years now. Have not had many physical problems I will say. It has seemed to be a smooth ride. Most of what I am noticing is mental or personality and I am not sure if I can blame Suboxone but would like to know. Lets get into it.

Moods and Emotions: Its been a LONG TIME since I have really been able to feel.. "emotion" Occasionally I find myself laughing or happy. Not often. However I would not say I find myself depressed other times. Kind of somewhere in the middle. I don't feel sad very often, when I should.. Its almost like I don't care. (though I do care, my emotions just don't seem to reflect. Does this make sense? Sorry.) I am able to feel anger but most times do not. Anxiety, my old friend.. Still exists, very regularly unfortunately. I feel him loud and clear. Overall, my general day to day mood is just "dull" my brain often feels dull... Joy and Excitement are seemingly non existent. Even Love seems dulled or dampened. I have the most amazing partner in the world who I DO love, but I can tell that MY love for her could fulfill me more than it is or recharge me more than it does. Does this make sense? Shes the best person ever, I wouldnt change a thing about her and I am not trying to say that she could do anything different that would make our love more fufilling. I am saying that my brain is not letting me properly reek the benefits? I hope this gets by what I am trying to say.

Personality: I have become SUCH an Introvert it seems. I just love keeping to myself. 90% of the time I do something, I am forcing myself too and wait until the latest possible moment. I have noticed simple things like taking my Son out, going out with the lady, going out with my friends or for myself just is not fun. I almost never really "enjoy" it anymore. Its like I have no motivation to want to do these things.. But for example.. Monster Trucks are coming next month and I feel happy and excited for that. Sometimes these random things give me random moments of happiness and excitement but they are far and few in between. Truly rare. I am always making up excuses to not go do things. Work, Not feeling well, I have to be somewhere etc. I am also a LOT more quiet than I used to be. I was never a super duper out going person.. I would say I was average. I can not tell you how many times I have heard some sort of variation of "you are so quiet or he is so quiet" bla bla from various sources. I am changed. I am not who I was, not a good change.

I am always so sluggish feeling energy wise. I can sleep like no other or I can run on no sleep. I can not seem to fall asleep any earlier than 1 or 2 am. Sometimes 3am when I have to work at 6 or 7am. So I am fully capable and used to running on just 3 or 4 hours of sleep per night.. but also, I could go to bed and sleep for 11 or 12 hours if I dont have to wake up. Even after a full nights rest 2 or 3 nights in a row I will still be sluggy.

I really just feel like I am here existing and I am fully aware that my Quality of Life is not great or as great as it could be for the many blessings that I have. I want to be able to enjoy these things. My son is not going to be a child forever. My Love is so valuable and I am so tired of not being able to properly embrace or feel it because of MYSELF.

I am also afraid of taking the leap in this way, I will no longer be physically taking a piece of medication through out the day, every day. I will be taking nothing. Not only is my body addicted to the substance, I am also addicted to the physical act of taking my medication at this point. I am EXTREMELY afraid of maybe some how possibly tricking myself into withdraw seeing as I will be going such long stretches of time between shots and NOT taking ANY medication? Is this an issue or side effect? Do people ever trick themselves into mild form of withdraw that may cause restless limbs or insomnia?

Is Suboxone to blame? I have read storied of people being changed by POSSIBLY the medication but not for sure. I am trying to narrow it down here and see if I can expect any sort of changes in the next couple of years if I take that first shot in March and my final shot in June. I plan on either a 300/300/100 or a 300/100/100mg series of shots. Is there any notable differences in the two? What can I expect 30..60...90...180...365 days in or after final shots? I am not worried about using drugs at this point. Will this be the right choice? Do you guys think I have a good chance of feeling better? Coming back to life? How long do you think this could take, assuming the medication has wonked out my brains chemicals, I would really appreciate any insight here you guys.

Looking forward to hearing back from you all..

KORPz

Just had my monthly appointment and my DR. At the end told me he can't send it to cvs since they're been giving them issues fulfilling scripts now because of some lawsuit. I've been getting mine filled there for close to 2.5 yrs now as it's the only pharmacy in my town. So hopefully this is only temporary. Anyone have any insight?

I’ve been at 16 mgs a day for a few years and I’m noticing a tolerance building- feeling sweaty before each new dose and cravings have slowly returned. I’d like to try 20 or 24 mgs. Is this something any doctors are open to generally or are we stuck at 16 for the rest of our bupe days? Anyone experience this?

Hi folks! I recently made the jump over to Sublocade, and aside from some sleepiness ( but still safely functional, more annoying than anything) for the first week , I am pleased to say it's gone smoothly and so far so good.

My best friend that I grew up with is also on Suboxone, but really struggles with consistency and taking it daily. He will skip days or take a reduced dose so he can use and hope to "feel something". I realize that reflects holes in his recovery program that he needs to work on but........

I want to suggest trying Sublocade to him.

Is it ever prescribed for this sort of poor adherence to oral Suboxone treatmen situation? To kind of take that decision out of his hands so to speak, since it's a SQ injection. To kind of enforce adherence to MAT and take that sort of momentary "in the moment" decision making?

Thanks everyone!

Hey guys, I used to be sober from opiates for nine years. I had a relapse last may on fent, cold turkey detoxed at my house, stayed sober for seven months, then relapsed again on freaking kratom and detoxed at my house again. I’m almost two weeks sober and heavily involved in 12 step fellowships, but the depression of me hating my current situation in life, and the unbearable cravings to try to make myself feel better has me really afraid of relapsing no matter what I do. I can’t lose my family and what I have but I’m really scared. I don’t like Sunoco e because of the high I know I’ll get considering I’m 100 percent sober right now, and the withdrawals. Do you think I’m an okay candidate for sublocade or what do you think I should do?

Hey all, I’m currently trying to stop an 8 month nasty 7oh addiction (3-450mg day) and have an opioid past. I was on painkillers for years and went to rehab a few times, had 3 years clean until kratom and than 7oh and has been so hard to get my recovery life back since. Constant relapses , binges and all, I’m sure yall understand how it goes. Due to my life circumstances, married with kids and a job I can’t and don’t want too leave , treatment again is not an option. I never entertained suboxone in the past but I am now. I need to be able to deal with the trauma and pain that always leads me to depression and using and this nasty nasty cycle. From what my psych, therapist are telling me is that mid to longer term suboxone is going to really help me. I’ve just heard how hard it is to come off but that doesn’t matter as much to me anymore ( I’ll deal with it with my psych etc when I get there) . I guess my question is, does suboxone really help stabilize ? I understand from what I’ve read it may mask some emotions , honestly I’m ok with that too shorter term- just need stability and to stop this nasty cycle. I’m in the programs and all that helps for sure too. Anyways all feedback is appreciated and I hope this hell ends soon 🙌🙌🙌

I can't find any info on this! My doc 🤬🤬🤬 prescribed be Zofran to be swallowed thanks doc, in the middle of throwing up I think I can keep a pill down long enough for it to help me stop throwing up...

Does anyone know how long it even takes to absorb? I took one as a preventative most recently but the nausea caught up fast and was vomited in about 2-3 minutes 😭

About nausea, what the fuck, it used to be really bad but now it's sort of just low and hanging out in the background, making me uncomfortable and unhappy, every other day. Does this ever go away?

For reference I'm on 6mg twice a day, I've been using Suboxone for about a month and a half and had a very trying time titrating myself up to that amount (I am on this medication for pain, and 4mg wasn't helping enough)

Anyone workout regularly while on suboxone?

Hi all! I have been wanting to get off subs for about a year now. Last year, I asked my doctor if I could get the sublocade shot, after having to get it ordered and wait for insurance it came in and I found out I was pregnant so I couldn't take it. A few months after, I ask my doctor again and she said they don't order it for most people anymore due to making the orders and people not getting their shot, so I couldn't get it. That is the only route I'm interested in taking, is it possible to just switch to a different clinic? Is that weird, does anyone know of any other options?

So if I like alternate like that am I helping lower my sub tolerance? The other day I did a quarter sub and then yesterday a did a 7oh and then today I did a quarter sub. You get what I mean? Am I lowering my sub tolerance by supplementing other things that get me through the day?

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But, we'll NEVER turn down or remove a post that's been asked before because this sub ultimately deals with life or death alot of the time. And we always value reducing harm over anything else.

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Just in case you didn't know, until a poster or commenter reaches 5 OR MORE COMBINED KARMA, you'll see the automod comment on it. That means one of the mods has had to manually approve each of them. We try to clean up posts when there are multiple, cluttered threads with the automod comments in due time to make post comments more streamlined. This deters almost ALL SPAM SOURCER COMMENTS. But not all. Report it if you see it. And UPVOTE if you see a new user posting or commenting(if you feel it's upvote material, of course). It'll help with the MANY automod comments and help make the thread not so cluttered.

If anyone has anymore ideas about some other frequently asked questions that could be explained pretty simply, comment on the post. And feel free to test out the automod summons in the comments, too!

I appreciate everyone of you and hope that we can continually to keep this an open, honest, respectful subreddit. And that includes the good and the bad sides that can come from Sub use. Whatever it is, you are all welcome.

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Any advice on how to find a pharmacy that will fill my prescription that is a replacement for the (Dr Reddy) medication that was disposed of?

Has anyone had a cruddy experience with Dr Reddy films but it got better over time?

I'm hoping maybe that happens when you are still new to starting Suboxone? Maybe those couple days of increasingly shitty feelings were just part of the process of getting used to coming off fetty? But I read others had similar experiences, and then reading the citations that the Dr Reddy lab had didn't build my confidence. I had three of the eight mg films per day, and planned to reduce down to one film (or less) per day as soon as I felt well enough to do so.

I have a receipt from Walgreens stating the number of Dr. Reddy films that were disposed of from my original prescription (in their DEA-authorized disposal site, no less). But that isn't good enough for my local CVS. They insist that the new prescription is 'too early' to fill. Maybe if I get Walgreens to sign Form 41, that might convince another pharmacy to feel comfortable filling my prescription?

https://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/21cfr_reports/surrend/41_form.pdf

I can't believe this nightmare. I used Quick Md (they've been great) and unfortunately had the hellshow of PW after trying to induct after 24 hours (because I was using fentanyl). I did a speeded up version of my dr's microdosing schedule, and got successfully inducted after 5 days. The one week supply of generic CVS films worked fine.

I then stupidly chose Walgreens to fill my month supply. I had a horrible reaction to their Dr Reddy generic films - after 2 days of getting steadily worse, I said I can't take anymore of the steady withdrawal symptoms that those films seemed to bring up, and I brought my remaining films, all 79 of em, to be disposed of so I could get a replacement prescription for a different generic. I have a receipt from the pharmacist confirming they were disposed of.

Now CVS says it is "too soon to fill". My Quick MD dr sent in a new prescription right away for the new amount of medication that I should have as of today that will replace the medication that was destroyed, but even with the receipt from Walgreens, CVS said they won't fill it.

Walgreens said they can ONLY use Dr Reddy. Even when I explained the bad reaction I had, they say they have a contract and can only use that brand.

EDIT - maybe it depends on who is working a particular shift? I'm talking w/Walgreens now and today I'm hearing I COULD get brand name, if specified. I'm asking if I have DEA Form 41, would Walgreens then be able to fill a replacement prescription, they said that would help.

EDIT 2 - Walgreens said they CAN fill brand name, but it is a supply problem. Their warehouse only has Dr Reddy brand and they can't get any other brand now. Hm ok.

CVS cut a deal with the worst generic form of suboxone, and give you an attitude or excuse if you say you need another brand, ive been running around for 3 days trying to figure this out with different cvs pharmacies, 1 call to the local mom n pop shop and they have it no issues, i can talk to them unlike cvs, so go support your small pharmacys guys fuck cvs

I don’t have any insurance and was just recently getting off of fent. I would recommend to people that don’t have that much money to use QuickMD. The process was fast and simple, had a doctor appointment that day and was able to get my script a couple hours later after our visit. be honest with the doctor about your usage and how you feel. Each visit cost 100 dollars, but when they first prescribe you suboxone they only give you a week worth and you have to pay another 100 for a visit after that to get a full monthly supply. I had also told my doctor I did not have insurance and to send in the generic version. Before I had scheduled my appointment with him I went on GoodRX to see where I could get it the cheapest in my area. Ended up being CVS 60 8mg strips for 75 dollars so I had the prescription sent there. No problems getting it what so ever they were even nice enough and got the price down to 63. If you have trouble getting yours filled(I’ve read on here CVS won’t do it for some people) give Fry pharmacy a try. I was going through them but I didn’t like the generic subs they had it was dr. Reddys or some shit terrible brand. You can also discuss with the pharmacy to which brands they have or tell your doctor you would prefer the pill instead of film. If anybody has any questions feel free to ask. I know some people can’t afford 100 each month but it’s better than paying some guy 5-10 for a sub.

I was only on buprenorphine for one week to help with withdrawals coming off hydrocodone. Starting bup dose 8mg, tapered by 2mg a day until .5mg on day 7. That was 3 days ago. Today is the first day I'm really hurting, pain everywhere, exhausted, zero dopamine in my brain. When did withdrawals start for you and how long do they last? My goal is to be off everything. But I'm really struggling not to take a Vicodin or the bup.