/r/Subutex

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This subreddit is for questions about and information relating to subutex (buprenorphine WITHOUT naloxone). For info on Suboxone (buprenorphine/naloxone), or for more conversation, please visit r/suboxone!

This subreddit is for questions about and information relating to subutex (buprenorphine WITHOUT naloxone). For info on Suboxone (buprenorphine/naloxone), or for more conversation, please visit r/suboxone!

Please check out the new and improved Suboxone FAQ! (Almost everything in the FAQ pertains to Subutex as well as Suboxone.)

This subreddit practices harm reduction, please do not shame others if they use Subutex differently than you!


A place for all subutex related questions, advice, and discussion. For questions about subutex, whether switching to subutex is a good idea for you, discussion of whether or not doctors will prescribe subutex, tapering/getting off subutex, and anything else pertaining to subutex!

(NOTE: Nothing in this subreddit should be considered medical advice - most of us are not doctors, and even if we are, we are not YOUR doctor!)

RULES:

  • 1. NO SOURCING!! (no selling, buying, or any type of exchange of drugs via this subreddit)
  • 2. NO DOXXING! This is a site-wide TOS guideline and is in place for your protection. This rule includes ABSOLUTELY NO sharing of others' personal information OR your own. Breaking this rule will result in immediate ban from our subreddit, as well as a likely IP ban from the website as admins will be notified if members are doxxed on our sub. Also, BE CAREFUL WHAT INFO YOU SHARE and who you choose to share it with, even in DM/chat/off-site.
  • 3. No tolerance for bullying/abuse (over the line attacks/insults etc), and additionally no shaming or stigmatizing members that you disagree with. Basically, play nice or don't play here. We welcome all types of sub users here, including former ones -- that being said, please do not come here to give members unsolicited advice to stop taking suboxone -- plenty of maintenance users are perfectly happy being ON suboxone and statistically much safer from relapse and all that comes with it.
  • 4. No Low-Effort/Off-Topic Posts: Posts should be somehow related to Suboxone. Posts should aim to generate discussion or add something useful. This rule is used at moderator discretion, if you think your post was removed incorrectly, please contact the mods.
  • 5. No "Stash" Pictures: "Stash" pictures of buprenorphine strips/tablets or any other form of medication are not allowed.
  • 6. No advertising or marketing for providers, treatment facilities, or any type of prescription drug. Any posts/comments about providers which do not appear genuine will be removed at moderator's discretion. Researchers, please check with mods FIRST!
  • 7. No Self-Promotion (includes SOLICITATION):Please do not use this subreddit to promote your YouTube channel, Instagram, Facebook group, or anything else! Furthermore, please do not solicit members for money by making up "sob stories" and/or posting links/user IDs to apps such as Cashapp, Venmo, PayPal, or Amazon Wishlists. If you would like to post something of this nature, please contact the mods first or it will be removed.
  • 8. No Ban Evasion: No circumventing bans you received for poor behavior previously. This is ban evasion and is also against Reddit's TOS - we will notify admins and an IP ban will probably be issued.
  • 9. No Politics! Please do not bring politics into our sub! This includes insulting or making fun of someone for their choice of political party. There are plenty of places to discuss politics on Reddit, our sub is not an appropriate place for these discussions.

We will typically issue warnings for minor rule violations, however, SOURCING and DOXXING will be an immediate, permanent ban!

Related Subreddits

/r/suboxone - a much more popular buprenorphine subreddit, likely because Suboxone is much more widely prescribed. lots of useful info, resources, and support - we welcome Subutex users as well!

r/suboxonerecovery - for all previous users of suboxone/subutex who are currently in recovery, want to be in recovery, or are tapering their way into recovery.

r/Sublocade - learn more about the 30-day buprenorphine extended-release injection

r/OpiatesRecovery - a group of people helping each other to kick opiates/opioids, buprenorphine users are welcome!

r/methadone - a community for any and all questions about methadone and methadone treatment, if you are curious about methadone, check it out!

OpiatesRecovery Discord Chat

TAPER RESOURCES:

-http://www.helpmegetoffdrugs.com/taper (a great taper calculator, or feel free to message u/chasingd0pamine for a custom taper)

**For any questions or assistance etc you may need from our mod team, you can message modmail -- please allow up to 24 hours for a response, although we will usually respond much faster.

/r/Subutex

3,513 Subscribers

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Subutex through telecare

Does anyone know of any Online clinic for specifically subutex? Yes I have documented proof of years of subutex

1 Comment
2024/12/02
16:49 UTC

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Can I take bupe to stop fent WD

I have a 75 mcg belbuca ( bupe Sublingual film) That I was going to use to help me through the day until I can get some more fetty. I was wondering if I take some of it or what dose I should take if it won’t send me into PWD. Please let me know asap. Ty.

14 Comments
2024/12/01
10:23 UTC

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New to Subutex

Recently prescribed Bupernorphine 2 mg sublingual twice a day for chronic pain. NO history of OUD. Have only recently began treatment for my back issues less than a year ago. Was previously on Norco twice a day along with multiple epidurals and RFAs with no adequate pain relief. Referred to pain management and initially prescribed Butrans patch. It helped a bit but I was still having daily significant periods of breakthrough pain. PM changed to the Bupe SL last week. I have been halving each tablet bc the drowsiness is significant but I can definitely tell it is helping my back pain. Has anyone had adequate and sustainable pain relief with this medication and does the side effects lesson as you get used to the med? Any advice or experiences with this medication? Again prescribed for chronic pain and not with Naloxone for OUD. I only keep saying that because every thread or article I start to read deals more with suboxone and I am not taking that exact medication. Thanks!

2 Comments
2024/12/01
02:22 UTC

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Using Kratom to get off subs

Been been off subs for approximately 1 and 1/2 months. It took using red strain, Kratom pills and liquid to go from 2 mg of subs a day to 1 mg to half a milligram to using the patch which is less than half a milligram and then going from 20 micrograms to 15 micrograms. Then use Kratom and started to use the liquid, then the pills and about a month and a half later. I'm feeling much better and it is definitely possible and doable. It just takes a long time. Remember subs have a 28-day Half-Life so you must be careful and patient to get off these. Let me know if you have any questions and wish me luck.

10 Comments
2024/11/29
19:50 UTC

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Ran out of my prescription and don’t get a refill until the 4th

I need advice on what to do about withdrawals or what helps because I’m out of subutex and I don’t go get my refill until December 4th and I’m feeling shitty already. Any advice would help

17 Comments
2024/11/28
16:27 UTC

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Numbers

How many are y’all prescribed per day I am currently on 3 8mg a day have been for the past 6 months before that I was on 2 a day anyone get more than that I know most places the limit is 4

16 Comments
2024/11/24
00:58 UTC

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Recently got prescribed subutex

Hello everyone I recently got prescribed subutex 8mg a day and the first day I took it I wasn’t completely in withdrawal yet and after dosing about 2.5 hours later I was in terrible precips and terribly upset stomach. What are ways around this I desperately want to quit but this pain makes it nearly unbearable. Any help is appreciated..

24 Comments
2024/11/22
19:19 UTC

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I was suffering so badly at 10 days off that I took a crumb. Will this reset my withdrawal? It might have been like 1mg

I am not in treatment anymore.

I didn't feel that I needed the big doses and they were non negotiable and I was monitored to take them.

Anyway, I tapered off very quickly over a week from 16mg.

I was only on them for about 3 months and I just didn't want to be needing them and they were numbing my feelings.

So I saved up a bag and they could easily last me a year even if I took 2mg a day.

My suffering was at day 10 I got nausea and vomiting so severe that all I wanted to do was be sick.

But I've been suffering relentlessly this past 10 days. Really pronounced suicidal ideation. Like looking over bridges and thinking that would be a good place and imagining my body smashed up at the bottom.

I've genuinely no intention to do this though so don't feel the need to report the post or anything.

I also had a huge relapse 11 days ago (my mum just died) and I lost my mind and was injecting speedballs for 3 days. And then went psychotic.

But I had been off the subs for about a week before that cos I was only on them so I could be clean for my mum dying

I want to be clean full stop but I didn't have any choice but to go on subs cos I was taking my mum to radiation therapy and all sorts ever day for months.

But the stress of it all and watching my mum with her hair falling out and trying to keep happy for her sake when I'm dying inside cos she's dying.

Plus I had to give up work.

I just couldn't really handle what was happening to my mum mentally so I started sniffing oxys but cos I'm an addict in a few weeks I was addicted to heroin.

I have been clean of heroin before this for about 10 years but I've still done oxys this past 3 years ago weekends after my missus didn't wanna be with me anymore

So there's 3 years of oxys, then about 3 months heroin addiction when my mum was dying and I got clean just before she died. Was only about 2 weeks clean.

Stayed on subs for few months rapid taper, followed by cessation, followed by heroin and crack for 3 days, followed by crumbs of subutex to get through the withdrawal.

It's been the worst rattle I've ever done in my life except maybe my benzos and opiates one which was when I was 30 and fairly fit.

Now I'm 45.

So do you think that because I couldn't take it anymore at day 10 and took about 1mg subutex, that it would reset my withdrawal?

Cos honestly I'm not sure I could even go through this again.

And I don't even have a Dr cos I'm of no fixed abode atm

It's been fucking rough tbh. Clucking my tits off in the back of a van in zero degrees. Cos I'm living in a van and that kind of cooped up space can drive you mad. It's not even a huge van.

So I've got an apartment for 2 days just to do my washing and stuff and honestly it's bliss.

I could handle being so ill in conditions like this better than in my van.

Anyway I'm really rambling on cos I took some rick Simpson oil.

I would like to be free of all drugs ultimately but I'm no spring chicken.

Please answer the original question if you know, but these days I've realised no two clucks are the same anyway

2 Comments
2024/11/19
20:55 UTC

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Losing weight

Anyone on subutex losing weight? In active addiction, I lost stones. My lightest I was at 8 stone. I managed to gain a little weight after stopping my DOC and before starting subutex..but now I’ve been on subutex since may this year and I’m down to 8 stone 5 pounds. I am a 5ft 6inch woman and being this small really isn’t a good look for me. I am tired of having to force myself to eat food and just crave sugar most of the time instead of a decent meal. Anyone else have this? I’m desperate to get a bit of weight on again. Thanks 🙏 in advance.

8 Comments
2024/11/19
07:13 UTC

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canada

is there someone in canada that gets subutex? I would have stayed on suboxone if it wasn’t for the fact that the pills and the films takes 30 minutes to dissolve. So I switch to methadone but on methadone I have no energy at all. before switching to methadone, I tried sublocade but even with the 300mg injections, I had to take 6-8 mg of suboxone everyday to not be in withdrawals. my doctors let me increase my suboxone dose to 24mg even though I had no business being at that dose, I was just chasing the high like an idiot so my tolerance to opioids went crazy high. if I would have stayed under 14-16, I bet that sublocade would have worked for me.

1 Comment
2024/11/18
22:07 UTC

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Accidentally double dosed

I took my 8mg subutex this morning(just started this med last week) and fell back to sleep for about an hour. I woke up and took another 8mg completely forgetting I already took it until it was too late. Is this dangerous? Should I skip my next dose in 12 hours? Thanks

3 Comments
2024/11/14
03:18 UTC

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18 month out of date espranor

Not going to be effective is it?

1 Comment
2024/11/13
16:50 UTC

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Serious question about switching to Suboxone

Okay so I’ve been prescribed 12 mg of subutex per day for the last 5 months, and it’s helped me to remain clean and sober so I’m grateful for that, in the past I had a slight bad reaction to naltrexone, taken orally, my insurance doesn’t want to cover subutex anymore and my PCP wants me to switch to suboxone because it has the blocker and less likley for abuse, I’ve been taking the subutex normally but am curious if I’ll get any negative or withdrawl effects switching to suboxone (with the blocker)? Like if I switch meds I’ll be taking my final dose of subutex in the morning then a suboxone in the afternoon (replacing my subutex dose), will I feel like shit or will there be no noticeable difference?

22 Comments
2024/11/10
16:04 UTC

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Can you go into precipitated withdrawals on Subutex (if you took opiate same day)

I know it doesn't have naloxone in it ,but I've read people say your receptors are still blocked and you can get sick ??

1 Comment
2024/11/09
21:47 UTC

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Problems with pharmacies and subutex script

Hi everyone. This is my first time ever posting on here but have learned so much over the past months from other people on here that I figured it wouldn't hurt to ask for some advice/help.

First off is anyone else experiencing problems with pharmacies filling your subutex script if you have a documented intolerance? Back in June I got switched from Suboxone to Subutex because the Suboxone was giving me severe stomach pains/cramps. It got so bad that I decided I'd rather just not take my dose some days and deal with those side effects than deal with the stomach pains. That, we know, can only work for so long. While that was all going on I stayed in constant communication with my doctor. He was seeing me weekly and everyone in the office saw firsthand how I truly wasnt feeling well on them. We tried different brands, we tried the orange ones vs the white ones, you name it, I tried it. It just wasn't working. They all were making me have these pains. Then my doctor switched me to subutex and it all stopped. My doctor saw firsthand the change in me and since then I've even been able to have my dose lowered because I've been doing so well and really making an effort to come off completely.

But then last week my pharmacy decided that they were no longer going to fill scripts unless you were pregnant and/or breastfeeding. They were no longer going to fill for an allergy or an intolerance. I went to 2 pharmacies in my town and they both said that they started this "policy" the same day because and I quote "there is no way that this many people have an allergy to suboxone and need subutex" since when is it OK to just make assumptions? I have the actual documentation. My doctor has done everything that was asked of him from us signing forms and the office providing my chart notes documenting it all. They have the diagnosis and know why the drug is ordered in the first place. After doing more talking with the one pharmacist I was told that they actually are filling for some people but not the new customers. They are picking and choosing who they fill for. I am not a new customer, I've been going to this pharmacy for my entire life. For those that are going to say to just switch pharmacies. They all caught wind each of the others was starting these "policies" and implemented their own versions so I got turned away from them all. I have asked to get a copy of the policy to be able to read it but no one could or would provide with me with one because I feel like it doesn't exist. These pharmacies have made me feel so low and I've been treated so inhumane.

I'm just curious if anyone else has gone through this type of treatment or if it'd even legal. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you for having the patience to read this long of a message.

5 Comments
2024/11/08
16:27 UTC

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Question about precip

I've been trying to get on buprenorphine for the last few weeks and have followed the recommendations of being in withdrawal before taking bupe but it only seems to make the withdrawals worst leading me to use again. The question I have is having used. Do I need to wait for withdrawals again or (my illogical thinking here) can I pop some buprenorphine and be OK soon after since it's already in my system?

9 Comments
2024/11/07
13:24 UTC

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Please, I have some questions and I am new to subutex.

Hello and hope to make some friends here. I'm forever 29 but chronologically I'm 70. I've recently been prescribed subutex because I used to take crazy amounts of kratom to block my nerve pain. I did get tramadol prescribed but the kratom rendered it useless. The nerve pain also makes me feel ridiculously cold and very miserable. I went to a 2 week treatment center and was put on 4mg 3x day. Now that I'm home I feel awful. My prescriber had asked me if I wanted a higher dose and stupidly I said no. And then Walgreens gave me these large oval orange tabs that were weaker than the small white pills at treatment center. But pharmacist told me all future buprenorphine are small white pills from Rhodes which I heard were best available. Pharmacist also told me my insurance will only pay for 3 pills a day. So that means my prescriber has to request the 8mg size from now on.

So here's some questions I have.

  1. How much of an updose can I request?

(Ideally I would like to double my dose, 8mg 3x day. That way I could save some pills so I never run out, this is a huge fear for me.) 2. How long do we need to hold the dose in our mouth? (Any tips on how to do it for max absorption, and is it wasted when eventually saliva is swallowed?)

I look forward to getting to know yas, thanks.

16 Comments
2024/11/07
12:32 UTC

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Use after first time using bup+nal

I used 8 mg of bup this morning at 7 o’clock First time. So I don’t have a build up. Has anyone successfully used or should I hold off ? Can someone give me insights

4 Comments
2024/11/06
18:02 UTC

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The best dosing

Okay so I've been pretty honest on this sub with yall because you understand, even when I put embarrassing information about myself out there - so I really need guidance on dosing and this is embarrassing for me. Right now I'm at 16mg a day, I do it in 2mg increments several times throughout the day. I WAS on 8mg for years but recently increased it simply because I felt like it. I'm admittedly stuck in the addict mindset of "I need more" "the more I do the better I'll feel" when I know that is NOT the case! I know that less is more with bupe but my brain isn't listening to me, the addict-like thought process is overruling. I'll be totally honest, I really value that bupe keeps me from doing other shit but also there's still a part of me that wants to get high off of it - more so that euphoric mood boost is what I crave daily.

How are yall able to keep yourselves on small doses? How did you fight the addict thought process? How do you personally feel on a small dose compared to a dose like mine?

12 Comments
2024/11/05
16:09 UTC

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Best telehealth for subutex or suboxone pills

Can someone lmk the best confirmed telehealth places to get put on subutex or suboxone pills and prices please. Need to do it ASAP. TIA

4 Comments
2024/11/04
17:17 UTC

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Very hot face

Has anyone ever had a very flush hot face? Like so hot you put a cold rag on it and in no time the rag itself is heated up? Makes me not wanna try anymore. Literally laid there for two hours getting an anxiety attack over it. Weird.

0 Comments
2024/11/01
19:33 UTC

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In therapy and working on anti- depressants, anyone relate?

I've been off of prescribed pain meds for 11 years now. I had been on them for 16 years previous to that. Anyone else still having a hard time accepting that what we thought was helping us feel "normal" only to find out now that it WASN'T normal. It helped me get up and focus on my days activities and complete my day productively!! I really wish they're was a way to make our brain work that way.

7 Comments
2024/11/01
18:50 UTC

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Day 1 without any subutex

I've been on subutex for about 4 years. I was originally on 8mg but reduced to 4mg in the first year. I started to reduce again in January and didn't really struggle at all, apart from a bit of disturbed sleep and fatigue, until I got to 1.2mg. I've been reducing at 0.4mg every 4 weeks (it's felt too fast but my healthcare provider has refused to go any slower). The last 4 weeks I've been on 0.2mg daily with little sleep and some restless legs (although I think that was made worse by melatonin which I've now stopped). Today is my first day without anything. I don't have any option for any comfort meds except otc stuff. So far I'm OK (obviously it's VERY early days!). I have ME and fibromyalgia (I was originally on tramadol for pain which is how I ended up on subutex) so I don't work or have much ability for activities but even on 0.2mg it did give me a few hours a day to cook, clean etc. I'm super anxious about the coming days but I'll see how it goes...

16 Comments
2024/10/29
13:23 UTC

4

Induction/birth

Can my fellow mamas share stories of birth while on subutex? I am on a lower dose (4mg)than I was 5 yrs ago with a c section(8-16 mg), but my goal is to not take any subutex today so that when I’m induced tomorrow the effect of narcs will be more helpful. I am feeling a little antsy and nervous about sleep without dosing and I wanted to hop on here to gain any suggestions of taking my dose today will impact meds tomorrow? My doctor said she can start narcotics once I am all checked in at the hospital tomorrow at 7 am.

9 Comments
2024/10/24
21:09 UTC

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would ketamine therapy get you off

2mg of buprenorphine hcl

19 Comments
2024/10/24
07:28 UTC

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Best way to wean off of subutex?

I’m considering going to a week long detox to get off of both subs and benzos. I definitely want to come off of benzos, but am unsure if coming off of subs at the same time will be too much in just a week. It doesn’t seem like that’s long enough.

I take 4mg at night and 4mg in the morning. And it’s subutex, so much harder to break into tiny pieces than a suboxone strip (although I do have some of those stockpiled).

Is a week really long enough to fully detox and feel good enough to go back to work and everyday life? I’m skeptical. When I got off heroin, I was clean for a month and still started taking subs because I didn’t have any energy. I’ve been on them since 2017. A week just seems like a really short amount of time to fully detox and then go back to my life. I’m also chronically ill (long covid) and have a lot of fatigue issues already. Is there any way to do a slower taper on my own? I could probably cut my nightly dose by a bit and feel fine, although it’s hard to accurately break up those pills.

What do you guys think? Go to detox, or do this on my own? I’m very skeptical about feeling great after a week long detox and being able to go about my life normally without shitting my pants, sweating, and all the other fun stuff that comes along with detoxing. I’m already tapering my benzos slowly, and not feeling super great. I got sick at work yesterday and had to leave, and idk if that’s related to my lower dosage or not. I also don’t know if I can take the time off as the place I work for is really short staffed.

44 Comments
2024/10/23
16:12 UTC

5

Switching To Methadone ?

Hi,

I’m on Buprenorphine since 13 month, I’ve started at 14mg, I’ve start tapering early. Five month and I was at 10mg, I tried 8mg but it was to quick. After speaking with my doctor we agreed to stay at an even dosage 12mg, for 6 months so I can rest. I use to take huge amount of drugs and go cold turkey. Apparently Its a way of self harm, it’s a mechanism to keep something explosive in my life. That make sense with my past. The problem I have is the product didn’t suits me. I hate subutex. It makes me tense, I do a lot of nightmare’s, sleep paralysis and it destroy my teeth. I would like to switch with Methadone but everyone tell me that it’s dangerous, I will have a honeymoon and I’m at a low dose of sub, I should stabilise and then taper. I don’t know what to do. I’m in France, I know in some case’s we can have oxy or skenan (morphine) if sub/metha is not recommend for us.

What should I do ?

26 Comments
2024/10/17
15:00 UTC

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Can shooting Subutex be deadly? I'm really scared after losing a friend.

Hey everyone,

I recently heard that a friend of mine passed away due to a bacterial infection that reached his heart after shooting Subutex (buprenorphine). It really got me worried because I've been shooting small doses of Subutex (around 0.5 mg) for the past 20 days. I've reused the same needle about 4 times, which I know isn't ideal.

Last year, I had a really scary experience after shooting Subutex—I woke up in the middle of the night with uncontrollable shaking, rapid heartbeats, and a fever of 41°C (105.8°F). I ended up calling a doctor to come to my house, and after he gave me an injection (probably paracetamol and other meds), I started feeling better in about 4 days.

Now, I'm wondering if what happened to me could've been sepsis or something serious like that. I can't shake the fear because shooting Subutex is pretty common where I live, and I know of several people who've died because of it, but I’m not sure how or why.

Can shooting Subutex be fatal? What exactly makes it so dangerous? I’d appreciate any advice or info.

Thanks.

39 Comments
2024/10/17
08:51 UTC

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