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This subreddit is for questions about and information relating to subutex (buprenorphine WITHOUT naloxone). For info on Suboxone (buprenorphine/naloxone), or for more conversation, please visit r/suboxone!

This subreddit is for questions about and information relating to subutex (buprenorphine WITHOUT naloxone). For info on Suboxone (buprenorphine/naloxone), or for more conversation, please visit r/suboxone!

Please check out the new and improved Suboxone FAQ! (Almost everything in the FAQ pertains to Subutex as well as Suboxone.)

This subreddit practices harm reduction, please do not shame others if they use Subutex differently than you!


A place for all subutex related questions, advice, and discussion. For questions about subutex, whether switching to subutex is a good idea for you, discussion of whether or not doctors will prescribe subutex, tapering/getting off subutex, and anything else pertaining to subutex!

(NOTE: Nothing in this subreddit should be considered medical advice - most of us are not doctors, and even if we are, we are not YOUR doctor!)

RULES:

  • 1. NO SOURCING!! (no selling, buying, or any type of exchange of drugs via this subreddit)
  • 2. NO DOXXING! This is a site-wide TOS guideline and is in place for your protection. This rule includes ABSOLUTELY NO sharing of others' personal information OR your own. Breaking this rule will result in immediate ban from our subreddit, as well as a likely IP ban from the website as admins will be notified if members are doxxed on our sub. Also, BE CAREFUL WHAT INFO YOU SHARE and who you choose to share it with, even in DM/chat/off-site.
  • 3. No tolerance for bullying/abuse (over the line attacks/insults etc), and additionally no shaming or stigmatizing members that you disagree with. Basically, play nice or don't play here. We welcome all types of sub users here, including former ones -- that being said, please do not come here to give members unsolicited advice to stop taking suboxone -- plenty of maintenance users are perfectly happy being ON suboxone and statistically much safer from relapse and all that comes with it.
  • 4. No Low-Effort/Off-Topic Posts: Posts should be somehow related to Suboxone. Posts should aim to generate discussion or add something useful. This rule is used at moderator discretion, if you think your post was removed incorrectly, please contact the mods.
  • 5. No "Stash" Pictures: "Stash" pictures of buprenorphine strips/tablets or any other form of medication are not allowed.
  • 6. No advertising or marketing for providers, treatment facilities, or any type of prescription drug. Any posts/comments about providers which do not appear genuine will be removed at moderator's discretion. Researchers, please check with mods FIRST!
  • 7. No Self-Promotion (includes SOLICITATION):Please do not use this subreddit to promote your YouTube channel, Instagram, Facebook group, or anything else! Furthermore, please do not solicit members for money by making up "sob stories" and/or posting links/user IDs to apps such as Cashapp, Venmo, PayPal, or Amazon Wishlists. If you would like to post something of this nature, please contact the mods first or it will be removed.
  • 8. No Ban Evasion: No circumventing bans you received for poor behavior previously. This is ban evasion and is also against Reddit's TOS - we will notify admins and an IP ban will probably be issued.
  • 9. No Politics! Please do not bring politics into our sub! This includes insulting or making fun of someone for their choice of political party. There are plenty of places to discuss politics on Reddit, our sub is not an appropriate place for these discussions.

We will typically issue warnings for minor rule violations, however, SOURCING and DOXXING will be an immediate, permanent ban!

Related Subreddits

/r/suboxone - a much more popular buprenorphine subreddit, likely because Suboxone is much more widely prescribed. lots of useful info, resources, and support - we welcome Subutex users as well!

r/suboxonerecovery - for all previous users of suboxone/subutex who are currently in recovery, want to be in recovery, or are tapering their way into recovery.

r/Sublocade - learn more about the 30-day buprenorphine extended-release injection

r/OpiatesRecovery - a group of people helping each other to kick opiates/opioids, buprenorphine users are welcome!

r/methadone - a community for any and all questions about methadone and methadone treatment, if you are curious about methadone, check it out!

OpiatesRecovery Discord Chat

TAPER RESOURCES:

-http://www.helpmegetoffdrugs.com/taper (a great taper calculator, or feel free to message u/chasingd0pamine for a custom taper)

**For any questions or assistance etc you may need from our mod team, you can message modmail -- please allow up to 24 hours for a response, although we will usually respond much faster.

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Tex and vicodin

Never had this happen before but I have about 16mg tex in my system and snorted not even 5mg of vicodin and immediately felt super shakey, heart racing for the past 3 hours. Anyone ever have a reaction like this?

5 Comments
2024/11/02
18:06 UTC

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Very hot face

Has anyone ever had a very flush hot face? Like so hot you put a cold rag on it and in no time the rag itself is heated up? Makes me not wanna try anymore. Literally laid there for two hours getting an anxiety attack over it. Weird.

0 Comments
2024/11/01
19:33 UTC

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In therapy and working on anti- depressants, anyone relate?

I've been off of prescribed pain meds for 11 years now. I had been on them for 16 years previous to that. Anyone else still having a hard time accepting that what we thought was helping us feel "normal" only to find out now that it WASN'T normal. It helped me get up and focus on my days activities and complete my day productively!! I really wish they're was a way to make our brain work that way.

5 Comments
2024/11/01
18:50 UTC

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Day 1 without any subutex

I've been on subutex for about 4 years. I was originally on 8mg but reduced to 4mg in the first year. I started to reduce again in January and didn't really struggle at all, apart from a bit of disturbed sleep and fatigue, until I got to 1.2mg. I've been reducing at 0.4mg every 4 weeks (it's felt too fast but my healthcare provider has refused to go any slower). The last 4 weeks I've been on 0.2mg daily with little sleep and some restless legs (although I think that was made worse by melatonin which I've now stopped). Today is my first day without anything. I don't have any option for any comfort meds except otc stuff. So far I'm OK (obviously it's VERY early days!). I have ME and fibromyalgia (I was originally on tramadol for pain which is how I ended up on subutex) so I don't work or have much ability for activities but even on 0.2mg it did give me a few hours a day to cook, clean etc. I'm super anxious about the coming days but I'll see how it goes...

14 Comments
2024/10/29
13:23 UTC

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I start subutex today

My daily usage of oxycodone is around 80-140mg but I haven’t used it since 11pm Sunday night, today I took 450mgs of dihydrocodeine at around midday when do you think it will be safe to start my subutex. Currently I’m planning on taking it at around 2Am so 14 hours after taking dihydrocodeine. Please let me know what you think or suggest. Thank you.

1 Comment
2024/10/28
21:21 UTC

4

Induction/birth

Can my fellow mamas share stories of birth while on subutex? I am on a lower dose (4mg)than I was 5 yrs ago with a c section(8-16 mg), but my goal is to not take any subutex today so that when I’m induced tomorrow the effect of narcs will be more helpful. I am feeling a little antsy and nervous about sleep without dosing and I wanted to hop on here to gain any suggestions of taking my dose today will impact meds tomorrow? My doctor said she can start narcotics once I am all checked in at the hospital tomorrow at 7 am.

8 Comments
2024/10/24
21:09 UTC

3

would ketamine therapy get you off

2mg of buprenorphine hcl

19 Comments
2024/10/24
07:28 UTC

7

Best way to wean off of subutex?

I’m considering going to a week long detox to get off of both subs and benzos. I definitely want to come off of benzos, but am unsure if coming off of subs at the same time will be too much in just a week. It doesn’t seem like that’s long enough.

I take 4mg at night and 4mg in the morning. And it’s subutex, so much harder to break into tiny pieces than a suboxone strip (although I do have some of those stockpiled).

Is a week really long enough to fully detox and feel good enough to go back to work and everyday life? I’m skeptical. When I got off heroin, I was clean for a month and still started taking subs because I didn’t have any energy. I’ve been on them since 2017. A week just seems like a really short amount of time to fully detox and then go back to my life. I’m also chronically ill (long covid) and have a lot of fatigue issues already. Is there any way to do a slower taper on my own? I could probably cut my nightly dose by a bit and feel fine, although it’s hard to accurately break up those pills.

What do you guys think? Go to detox, or do this on my own? I’m very skeptical about feeling great after a week long detox and being able to go about my life normally without shitting my pants, sweating, and all the other fun stuff that comes along with detoxing. I’m already tapering my benzos slowly, and not feeling super great. I got sick at work yesterday and had to leave, and idk if that’s related to my lower dosage or not. I also don’t know if I can take the time off as the place I work for is really short staffed.

41 Comments
2024/10/23
16:12 UTC

5

Switching To Methadone ?

Hi,

I’m on Buprenorphine since 13 month, I’ve started at 14mg, I’ve start tapering early. Five month and I was at 10mg, I tried 8mg but it was to quick. After speaking with my doctor we agreed to stay at an even dosage 12mg, for 6 months so I can rest. I use to take huge amount of drugs and go cold turkey. Apparently Its a way of self harm, it’s a mechanism to keep something explosive in my life. That make sense with my past. The problem I have is the product didn’t suits me. I hate subutex. It makes me tense, I do a lot of nightmare’s, sleep paralysis and it destroy my teeth. I would like to switch with Methadone but everyone tell me that it’s dangerous, I will have a honeymoon and I’m at a low dose of sub, I should stabilise and then taper. I don’t know what to do. I’m in France, I know in some case’s we can have oxy or skenan (morphine) if sub/metha is not recommend for us.

What should I do ?

20 Comments
2024/10/17
15:00 UTC

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Can shooting Subutex be deadly? I'm really scared after losing a friend.

Hey everyone,

I recently heard that a friend of mine passed away due to a bacterial infection that reached his heart after shooting Subutex (buprenorphine). It really got me worried because I've been shooting small doses of Subutex (around 0.5 mg) for the past 20 days. I've reused the same needle about 4 times, which I know isn't ideal.

Last year, I had a really scary experience after shooting Subutex—I woke up in the middle of the night with uncontrollable shaking, rapid heartbeats, and a fever of 41°C (105.8°F). I ended up calling a doctor to come to my house, and after he gave me an injection (probably paracetamol and other meds), I started feeling better in about 4 days.

Now, I'm wondering if what happened to me could've been sepsis or something serious like that. I can't shake the fear because shooting Subutex is pretty common where I live, and I know of several people who've died because of it, but I’m not sure how or why.

Can shooting Subutex be fatal? What exactly makes it so dangerous? I’d appreciate any advice or info.

Thanks.

36 Comments
2024/10/17
08:51 UTC

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Need to ask a question about taking narcotic pain meds bc I had oral surgery and am in a lot of pain but already on subutex

Hey everyone. I just got oral surgery and have recently been taking subutex I got for other reasons. I know that it will do no good if it was suboxone but I've heard that you can take narcotic pain meds if its subutex. I dont want to cause any problems like chest depression/breatinhg problems etc. Plus I want to know will the norco or codeine work like its supposed to if subutex has been taken within a certain ammount of hours. If so how many hours? Just someone that has pretty solid knowledge about how subtex works with narcotic pain meds wuld really help. I heard thats one big reason alot of people want subutex over suboxone is bc they're still able to take narcotics and get high. Not that it's the case here or with everyone but I am in so much pain rn that i need the reief for atleast a day or two. I'd rather take subutex for daily aches and pains but its not doing the job for this!!

7 Comments
2024/10/16
11:42 UTC

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Methadone and subs? When can I take the sub?

Hi hello. So I have been on fent for about two months. Just smoking it tho. I’m detoxing as it is literally too expensive to manage currently. Why is it so fucking expensive…thought it was supposed to be cheap lol(I got out last time probably shortly before fent completely took over so I am used to h) but anyways I last smoked Saturday night. Sunday morning I took a dose of methadone idk how much tho it was liquid maybe 40-50 mg? Then again probably similar mg around 4pm Sunday afternoon as I was still feeling a little shitty. Tbh worked wonders. It’s now technically Tuesday almost 1 am and I still haven’t taken anything else. I feel relatively fine but cannot sleep. Not necessarily a big problem but I have a bunch of subutex. When can I take any of that? Since I was not on methadone long term and basically took a single large dose how long until I am now to take subutex if I feel I need it. Again I’m not feeling any major withdrawal symptoms so I’m ok but just anxious and restless ¯_(ツ)_/¯ I’m planning to just use the meds to detox off as I do not want to be on methadone long term again. (2020-2022 last time) getting off was honestly not bad for me just time consuming….plus I do not wanna go to the clinic everyday again lol. Not there yet !! Anyways we’ll see how it goes. So over 48 hrs no fent. And like 30+ hours since the dose of methadone.

1 Comment
2024/10/15
06:03 UTC

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Doctors advice on subutex

Hi, I am currently on 6mg subutex per day. I space my dose out three times daily (always have done) and it seems to work ok. My doctor said usually people take the whole dose in the morning and they feel fine for the day, but I’ve tried this and by the end of the day I feel crappy. So my doctor said I’m apparently metabolising the subutex too quickly. The last time they done a drug test a couple of weeks prior, she said the amount of bupe was very low on the drug test. this normal? Also we spoke about getting the buvidal shot but I can’t get this until I go upto 8mg and the doctor advised me to only take 8mg once a day before I can get onto buvidal. Anyone had a similar experience? I’m terrified of getting the shot, I’m used to taking the subutex pills three times daily and I’m just generally worried about getting the injection overall. Any advice or experiences welcome! 🙏 thank you

8 Comments
2024/10/15
06:50 UTC

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Any help with finding a pharmacy near me in wv ( in and around new martinsville and wheeling wv)

Hi im mary (34f) So I had to change doctors since my family doctor decided he needed to drop patiences since his other doctor in office did a fuck up and the dea is side eyeing him closely so he dropped alot of his tex patience as a precaution and I was one of them so I found a place near me super close I was so happy but then find out no pharmacy but one near me will fill it and while that's great in all I can't afford it it cost me over 100 something for a week supply I am not working rn due to my chronic conditions (chrons and kidney disease and fibromyalgia) along with severe anxiety I just can't keep a job I'm always in so much pain. I can't afford this and this pharmacy is a local private owned pharmacy that don't accept things like goodrx or any type of discount card my insurance *(the health plan medicaid) will only cover suboxone and I'm unfortunately allergic 😢 so I've been losing my mind trying to figure out how I can afford this that's like 300-400 a month I can't do that and I can't seem to find a pharmacy that has it and when I get lucky it's in ohio or they arnt taking in new people or i have to be preg or breastfeedibg, my doctor in wv only can send to wv pharmacies my orginal pharmacy was in ohio so that fucked me on being able to stay with them. If anyone in the area( I know it's likely a Longshot of finding someone ) I'd be forever in your debit I'll make you some of my baked goods I am a self taught baker and I make anything from japanese milk bread to some good ol glaze donuts lol anyways if anyone could either find a place that does or find a way around this I have looked online and seen something about pap through the manufacture of the buprenorphine itself for patient assissent program they can do a discount for me but I haven't the slightly clue how to go about doing that and my new doctor seems it's as easy as oh any pharmacy in the area she doesn't seem to realize alot of pharmacies don't carrie it but do carry suboxone it sucks and I'm so scared to go without this medication it's been a life saver is a understatement the last two years of my life living in hospitals and well yall know the pain the fear 😨 if anyone can help a single mom out id greatly appreciate it.

23 Comments
2024/10/14
02:22 UTC

1

When should I take this

I’m not experiencing withdrawals too bad just yet. When can I take Subutex? Will it give me automatic withdrawals like suboxone

2 Comments
2024/10/13
22:05 UTC

1

6MG Per Day / Quitting / Norco

I've been using 4-6MG of Subutex per day for 2 weeks for an issue unrelated to opioid addiction. I also have a legitimate prescription for Norco which I have not used during my 2 week stint with Subutex. I have 1 more day of taking Subutex and was wondering what, if any, withdrawals may occur. Also, how long should I wait before taking my prescribed Norco again? Thanks in advance!

1 Comment
2024/10/13
16:30 UTC

1

Tapering dosage

My doctor suggested me to taper from 1mg/day to 1mg Every other day. I think this Is Because here where i live there aren't pills less tha 2mg so cutting that in forth would not becaccurate at all. I am thinking to dissolve my pills and dose volumetrically.anyone knows if tale 1mg Every other day Is any Better than 0.5mg Everyday? Thanks

4 Comments
2024/10/12
15:11 UTC

1

Evening

Hi guys I’m 30 and in the uk

I’ve had a crap week and have been thinking of using. I am on 16mg daily though and only have been for 21 days after switching from meth. I want to use but not if it’s pointless or gonna make me sick, I’ve seen a lot of people say 3 days due to half life or whatever, can someone help me so I can remain safe.

Cheers ma dears

1 Comment
2024/10/11
23:47 UTC

4

Csection on subutex

Has anyone had a csection on subutex? I'm scared of pain control immediately after. I would love to hear your experience. Did your spinal still have narcotics in it? Were you in a lot of pain after? How was in controlled? TIA!

9 Comments
2024/10/10
18:29 UTC

25

Got through the cold turkey!

So yeah, this is a bit of a proud post but I think I deserve it. I went and jumped off of 12mg - had 2 days of 10mg and 1 of 8mg then nothing.

I’m at week 6 now and although there are the odd symptoms like big stretches, occasional bursts of sneezing and chills, I am well past the difficult bits. It was a hard, loooooong process but I feel a FUCK TON better now than before. I used to think I was fine and with it whilst on it but now that I’m off there is SUCH a difference. It’s like I’ve come back to life again.

Music makes me so happy, I can tell the difference when I interact with people (those close to me say what a change it’s made), I sleep way better, eat better and just have the energy to put into life again.

I’ve got the support of AA as I was a problem drinker for a decade as well as being on opiates/opiods too plus I find AA concentrate more on the process of recovery.

To anyone wondering if it’s worth coming off and have the support they need to remain abstinent, I can’t help but say give it your best shot. Obviously if the risk of relapse is high then don’t, I’m not an expert of your life. Just wanted to put a positive story out there of recovery.

Stay well and safe everyone, much love.

14 Comments
2024/10/09
17:24 UTC

2

Too low of dose, maybe?

Can anyone tell me how you can tell if your subutex dose is too low? Or is my body still adjusting?Started me out on a 8mg tablet once a day ( I take it about 6am). It's been about a week since starting. But I've noticed like around 2 or 3 pm in afternoon I start to feel really crappy. Body aches, shakey, kinda clamy, eyes watering. Anyone have this experience? Any input/info is greatly appreciated! Thank you in advance!

8 Comments
2024/10/08
14:03 UTC

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Will my eyes always be pinned?

I am on a high dose of 24mg which means an 8mg pill 3x a day and I'm a bit concerned. When I try to assure people I'm not high like my family they mostly think I'm full of it. Which I don't really care if they believe me because that's their opinion. But at work and such I'm just worried that I may be targeted for that same reason of my eyes being super pinned out. I read that it's a sign of opioid abuse but I'm not abusing shit. Haven't for years. Want to not worry about this but I was just kind of thinking. Can I get back to my eyes reacting to light of I was at an even lower dose a day or would it even matter? I know our bodies are all different but I was wondering if anyone else knew anything about this. Also I find it strange that benzos can make your eyes do the opposite and enlarge or dilated. Must be why I can't ever see shit when I used to take them.

2 Comments
2024/10/08
09:41 UTC

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I just can’t 😕

I started to take Subutex 4years ago.. Because I whas on 380mg oxycodon daily… Started with 4mg… My Goal whas to get „clean“ in one year! Now it is 4 years already since then and I’m on 24mg currently 😔 I asked so often my doctor to help me get clean of it.. but she tell me everytime that she don’t recommend it because it would be „better“ to be online and good then „offline“ and bad🫤🤓🙄 How could I start to withdraw from the Subutex? Is there my medicine what could help me with that? New Doctor is impossible, because where I live she is the only one who can legally give this kind of drugs 😓

50 Comments
2024/10/07
05:54 UTC

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Have been on 24mg for over a year. Have been doing good but is it possible to opiate even?

Just wondering if I take a day off and then smoke some dope if I manage to feel something or if it's all gonna go to waste

2 Comments
2024/10/07
05:03 UTC

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Questionimg my doc‘s method - Subutex

I was perscribed long-acting morphine as a substitute for oxycodone, hydromorphone, and heroin which I used prior. I was able to taper down to only 140mg morphine per day. Now they put me on buprenorphine (subutex) using the bernese method. Two weeks ago I started taking subutex, the frist two days I took 0,4mg together with my 140mg morphine. Every 1-2 day I took a higher amount uf subutex. Now I‘m on 6mg subutex and today I started reducing the morphine from 140 to 120mg. Tomorrow I‘m supposed to take 6,8mg subutex and only 70mg morphine. The day after I‘m supposed to take 8mg of subutex and no morphine at all. After that I should take 10mg subutex per day. As of now it‘s going well. I feel minor withdrawal symptoms such as intense cravings for opioids, shivering, and feeling a little nervous and „on the edge“. But thus far it‘s quite tollerable. However, I‘m concerned that I will have severe withdrawal symptoms once I stop using morphine entirely. Also, aren‘t 10mg of subutex a much higher dose than the 140mg morphine I was taking? I was able to taper down the morphine quite fast, within 3 months I tapered down from like 340mg to 140mg with only tolerable withdrawal symptoms every time I tapered down. Tapering down was easy because I had some 20mg pills besides the 100mg ones. This allowed me to remove a little bit from the 20mg pill every day to taper down 20mg slowly within 4 days. But subutex… this will be a hell to taper down and will take much much longer… Did big pharma manipulate me to be hooked on medication for more time?

8 Comments
2024/10/06
12:07 UTC

5

Also if I started Subutex Sept 5 and now it's

Oct 4th can I get bad withdrawal if I get off the Subutex/buprenorphine the 16mg can it happen.. How about if I did Ketamine infusion for the 3rd time would it out of your system.

4 Comments
2024/10/05
03:27 UTC

1

Just a weird symptom I had once when I took 16 mg instead

Of 32mg for the pain I was starting getting paranoid for some, reason it scared me.. the next day..

6 Comments
2024/10/05
03:24 UTC

3

Dr gave me 120 QID

DAILY YOU THINK 32 MG FOR PAIN IS WORTH TAKING

17 Comments
2024/10/01
23:25 UTC

3

Help please! I need a new doctor.

I've been on Subutex for almost 10 years now and have done great. Especially compared to where I used to be. Honestly it saved my life but that's another story. I need to find a doctor asap. Everywhere I go to doesn't want to prescribe so he text. I prefer somewhere online. So does anyone know of a doctor that will prescribe subjects, that is online, and works in kentucky? Or is that just a pipe dream? First time ever posting on Reddit too BTW.

22 Comments
2024/09/27
20:31 UTC

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Anyone in Maricopa County/Phoenix Metro know of an Rx which carries the small white 8 arrow pills? (Brand name: PAI Pharmacy—formerly Hi-tech/Akorn)

The pill is Buprenorphine 8mg Tablet, brand name is PAI Pharma (formerly Hi-tech/Akorn).

I've been Rxed on Buprenorphine for 15+ years, starting back when it was the actual Subutex pill; However, the brand name Subutex pills were pulled from production about 9yrs ago, and now only available in generic form.

I'm desperately trying to find these pills... But for now, I'm still trying to find them somewhere nearby in my area (Mesa/Gilbert/Chandler/Tempe/Scottsdale).

3 Comments
2024/09/26
02:39 UTC

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