/r/SocialEngineering

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/r/socialengineering is a subreddit dedicated to the art & science of human manipulation & social hacking, as well as public relations at an individual level.

We appreciate any content on social interaction, however occasionally some content requires a basic explanation, as such any links that are posted should be accompanied by a comment with a bit of written context explaining why you think it belongs here.


  • RULES:
  • 1: Be respectful of each other.
  • 2: No malicious attempts at social engineering other members of the community.
  • 3: No nay saying, if you don't like something down vote and move on, unless you have some constructive input.
  • 4: Don't abuse the report system just because you disagree with something.
  • 5: No poaching/recruiting users for off site forums that use a VIP pay wall donation system.
  • 6: No x-posting content to Social justice warrior/white knight subs like SRS to encourage internal down vote brigading.
  • 7: All Staff should be neutral and unbiased, If they personally have an issue with a member of the community it should be taken up with a neutral 3rd party preferably a another moderator where possible.
  • 8: Community moderation is a position of responsibility not power, all moderators will be held accountable for their actions.
  • 9: The point of this sub is learning and while we discuss ethically questionable actions, it is for discussion and learnings sake. Though people are wholly responsible for their own actions, we ask for the sake of staff stress that any legally questionable actions be discussed in the hypothetical.
  • 0: Do NOT post personally-identifiable information at all, including addresses, phone numbers, or credentials such as badges or IDs.



/r/SocialEngineering

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what kind of stories work well where you don't reveal the outcome, where the other person must imagine how it ends themselves?

making people guess whats about to happen increases curiosity, but what kind of stories work best for this?

2 Comments
2024/10/30
21:09 UTC

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Good ways to challenge someone without harming a relationship?

One example I know of is by using a challenging frame. framing their actions outside the norm. For example if someone is late for a 4pm appointment say “are you here for the 4:05pm appointment?”

3 Comments
2024/10/28
10:43 UTC

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Rethinking Phishing Testing

The whole goal of phishing testing is to see if people are understanding and retaining the important points. Those important points should be to detect a phish and to report it to the appropriate internal team. Reporting and knowing how is one of the most important things with protecting the company.

Defense in depth is also important. If one person clicking a link in an email can devastate a company's network, the problem isn't with the phish and the employee. You need layers of defenses, much in the same way that we have multiple protections against fires in buildings and how we do fire drills. Make is clear, make it obvious and easy.

On this week's Layer 8 Podcast, Google's Matt Linton talks about how to do all of this with phish testing!

https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/layer-8-podcast/episodes/Episode-116-Matt-Linton---A-Better-Phish-Test-e2piqb5

0 Comments
2024/10/24
15:50 UTC

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Hi! I created an AI tool that allows users to talk to Robert Greene's books

The compendium contains all of Greene's works, including but not limited to "The 48 Laws of Power," "The Art of Seduction" and "The Concise Laws of Human Nature."

You can try it HERE.

Example below:

Q: What are the top 3 pointers for someone interested in social engineering?

A: To answer this question, I'll need to identify key points from the provided context that relate to social engineering or manipulating social situations. The most relevant information appears to come from "The Concise Laws of Human Nature by Robert Greene", which discusses observing and interpreting human behavior. I'll extract the most applicable advice for social engineering from this source.

For someone interested in social engineering, here are three key pointers derived from Robert Greene's work:

  1. Develop keen observational skills: Pay close attention to nonverbal cues such as facial expressions, body language, and voice tone. Greene advises: "In a casual conversation with someone, give yourself the goal of observing one or two facial expressions that seem to go against what the person is saying or indicate some additional information." This skill allows you to gather more information than what's verbally communicated. [Source: The Concise Laws of Human Nature by Robert Greene]
  2. Learn to decode key behavioral signals: Focus on identifying cues related to dislike/like, dominance/submission, and deception. Greene notes: "Your task is to look past the distractions and become aware of those signs that leak out automatically, revealing something of the true emotion beneath the mask." This understanding can help you navigate and influence social situations more effectively. [Source: The Concise Laws of Human Nature by Robert Greene]
  3. Master the art of impression management: Understand and utilize social roles to your advantage. As Greene states: "Consciously or unconsciously most of us adhere to what is expected of our role because we realize our social success depends on this." By skillfully managing the impressions you create, you can more easily achieve your social engineering goals. [Source: The Concise Laws of Human Nature by Robert Greene]

Remember that while these skills can be powerful, they should be used ethically and responsibly.

Hope you guys like it!

8 Comments
2024/10/21
23:13 UTC

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Social Engineering Conference

What if there was a convention or conference that focused only on social engineering topics? One where you could learn about persuasion or ethical influence or better ways to phish or what is the current threat landscape to social engineering attacks. Would that be interesting?

6 Comments
2024/10/21
21:12 UTC

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How do I understand people’s headspace when playing an online game?

Within competitive games it will always be frustrating to be this emotional and or cognitive dissonance between you and your teammates. These problems become more apparent by your team losing more and more rounds. I’ve learnt the hard way that it’s no use to try to trash talk your own teammates since it’ll give them more fuel to not do what you tell them too. And with such a short time frame to understand as to what’s going on in your teammates head and me generally not having the best online people’s skills. It’s hard for me to talk to convince these abstract voices to do what’ll help us win the round. The few situations I’ve had players do what I tell them are usually the very brand new players, within their 2hr to 50hr range. But my low rank days are long gone so I don’t know what to do. Is what I’m experiencing just a me problem? Or an inability to be a onlines people person? (If that’s the right word)

7 Comments
2024/10/21
18:10 UTC

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Use people's assumptions on you to your advantage?

When strangers look at you they make a split second assumption, d'ya know.

And this assumption people have on you has a clear pattern where most strangers you meet, will assume your a certain way based on your appearance, etc

So how can you use this assumption to your advantage?

For example, let's say your clean cut/ striking to look at, how can you use the assumption to your advantage?

2 Comments
2024/10/21
17:18 UTC

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Beginner tutorials or links for open source analysis using Maltego

I would like to get started with Maltego and would appreciate how-tos or links to get started with Maltego using practical examples.

1 Comment
2024/10/20
23:40 UTC

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SE Engagement, Need to keep target on the phone

Hey All, I’m a pentester with much experience in that realm but little SE experience and I’ve been tasked with an engagement that would allow me to train an AI with a specific targets voice. He’s a C level employee at a firm in southeastern US. I was considering maybe posing as one of those survey firms that pays people to take a survey over the phone. If anybody else has any ideas of how I could keep him on the phone and talking so that I capture as much sampling of his voice as possible, I’m all ears.

Like I said, I’m newer to this so I’m open to any suggestions and tips as well.

Thanks in advance.

3 Comments
2024/10/20
22:47 UTC

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Why do people never shut up when speaking to me

The title is harsh but i'm so sick of everyone assuming i wanna listen to what they have to say they yap and yap and don't let me say anything do people just assume im a good listener? my mom told me that once but it genuinely pisses me off when they won't even let me say my input

17 Comments
2024/10/19
22:27 UTC

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Did you guys ever notice, when dealing with insecure people it's often more effective to convey high-status and aloofness and take charge rather than trying to be nice to them?

I've noticed this a bunch of times, when someone's insecure or low-status and you're nice to them, they often assume you're low-status too instead of your niceness uplifting them. It's far more effective in my experience to convey high-status and indifference towards them and then treat them slightly better than other people "above them" would. Kinda sad but imo but some people were almost born or irreversibly conditioned over time to be walked over.

21 Comments
2024/10/18
22:52 UTC

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no bullshit criminal record sites

hypothetically speaking if i had a relative that has left with no trace and has a criminal record how would i go about finding the record for free none of the premium 5 search per month crap please

10 Comments
2024/10/17
23:59 UTC

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Building Relationship

Hey yall, thanks so much for reading this message!

I am a High schooler right now, and I'm interested in the idea of building really strong relationships. I'm hoping I could talk to yall about how to go about that? Are there good resources to read? Are there techniques to learn? Are there people to learn from?

While I'm not planning on being malicious with this, simply attempting to build a good network and connect with folks. I would appreciate learning any techniques that can be used maliciously due to the fact that I'm sure it will work fairly well, but I would like to let yall know that malicious manipulation is not the goal, just positive manipulation? Idk if that's a thing lol.

There's the idea that your net worth is your net work and I'm hoping to play that game as well as I can.

Thanks so much for reading this! I really appreciate any help yall can give me.

2 Comments
2024/10/17
03:28 UTC

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How to make complex things more accessible so everybody will understand?

i've read the one thing that makes Michelle Obama sp charismatic is that she rephrases complex ideas more accessible so that everyone can understand it

how do you do this?

one way I know of is making comparisons

3 Comments
2024/10/16
20:49 UTC

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What's up with the world today?

Is it just me? Or is this modern world soulless. Detached. Isolated. Nobody does anything anymore and nobody cares about much. People don't even answer calls or respond to messages these days. Devalued. You don't mean much to anymore. Outside of what benefit you have to offer. And most don't have much. Everybody's head is down, prisoner to their devices. Ignoring their loved ones. Ignoring their real life that is fleeting. Work work work. It's all that matters anymore. This seems ongoing for over a decade, but definitely escalated after 2020. What is up with everyone? Is everyone depressed? High? Divided? Burnt out? Are we really that busy? Is it a combination? Wtf is going on? Or is this just a consequence of having removed myself from the workforce matrix? (Working for myself.. among other matrixes i have removed myself from). I tend to think it's social media/smart phones? Mindless drones just barely functioning on a societal/social level. But try to free yourself. Get rid of your social media. Just to see everyone else imprisoned.. and now you're cut off. Even more depressing. I don't know the answer.. but if you're reading this.. snap out of it!

92 Comments
2024/10/16
14:14 UTC

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When opening up about yourself what common/shared experiences work well?

Sharing stories about common experiences, such as traveling to a new place or trying a new hobby, can help to create a connection and find common ground, when introducing yourself to a stranger

What other kind of stories about yourself would work for this, that'd be a common experience you both have?

5 Comments
2024/10/14
12:26 UTC

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Question about THAT Dale Carnegie book...

"How To Make Friends and Influence People"

The main idea I took away from this book was to make the other person the priority - making them the star of the show!

The problem is... how do I go about doing that? How do I get outside my head? And start attuning myself to the other person?

8 Comments
2024/10/13
18:41 UTC

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FACS (Facial Action Coding System) Final Test Tips

Hey everyone,

I am studying FACS and would like to take the final test soon. Due to budgeting issues, I will only buy the test and not the full package that Paul Ekman’s site offers. However, I do have both the manual and the investigator’s guide files (found them online).

Does anyone know what the final test includes and how it works? For example, do you need to score intensity or just the AUs?

I recently took the Cimp’s FACS final test, where they gave me videos, and I needed to score the AUs alone in an Excel sheet. Will it be the same format?

I plan to take the test within the next month, so any timely advice would be fantastic. If you’ve taken the FACS final test, I’d love to hear about your experience and any challenges you faced.

Thanks!

0 Comments
2024/10/12
14:15 UTC

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How to be interesting

In order to talk to people and socialize it's really useful to know about their interests as much as possible. But people are different and many people have much different interests. If I want to make a good impression I need be talktive yet respectful, and of course I need interesting topics to discuss. I was thinking about reading books because they give you knowledge, but I don't know from where to start.

7 Comments
2024/10/12
10:56 UTC

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Do I understand Social Engineering?

Effort Post!

I try to explain the idea of Social Engineering to my friends and they either don’t understand or pivot to something else to talk about.

They have university degrees so they should be able to follow along and work with hypotheticals. I feel like I’m being gaslit, or maybe I’m gaslighting myself 😂

Social Engineering typically is talked about in regards to penetration testing in Cybersecurity.

I have textbooks.

However the skills are basically just about being perceptive and manipulative to accomplish a goal. I’m not even trying to place a judgement on the moral / ethical considerations.

Of course you can extrapolate this idea of social engineering and find overlap with other ideas or jobs.

Some analogies for example are the skill set of covert espionage (CIA Case Officer) trying to convert locals into sources of valuable secrets (intelligence), FBI (undercover agent), even playing “office politics” to get a deserved raise, or “brown nosing” a harsh professor.

I just wanted to establish this idea of social engineering or more generally the idea of behaving as an agent (aware or not) in a social context as an abstraction, so I can engage in further discussion.

Am I missing the mark? Or people are lazy?

7 Comments
2024/10/11
16:58 UTC

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Getting Free Stuff

Hey Reddit,

What are your favorite ways to get free stuff irl?

I don't mean like just asking, but something more technical.

E.g. usually ask small cafes and gyro houses to just give me something for free.

It works, but it's not really consistent. Any techniques you know that might help?

#freestuff, #irl

6 Comments
2024/10/11
12:02 UTC

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What simple techniques, unsettle or put-off a online fake-account/ catfish?

8 Comments
2024/10/10
16:17 UTC

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Something terrible is happening.....

Does anyone else feel like we are being pitched against each other all the time? People are made to hate each other.

Go on any social media platform, and if you read the comments there is a war going on between men and women, a war that benefits neither of us, but we are still made to hate each other. I do not think people are this hateful, I feel like this is divide and rule. And it's not just about gender, people are hating each other based on religion, race, and country. I see so many Racist comments targeted towards India and the same for people of color, you would see the same for even white people. Then, you see people hating each other's religion and country.

Now I know people have always hated each other based on something or the other, but this feels different. I have gone through these comments and checked the profiles of the people who post hate, these are all bots. Yes, there are real people too but I feel like the bots are being used as means to target individuals, countries, and races and to sway people's opinions against them. We are witnessing virtual hit jobs being executed. There is a theory called dead internet theory which states that most of the internet traffic is generated by bots and not real people.

For people who are gonna say it has always been like that, I disagree with you. I don't have proof but based on my own Anecdotal experience there has been a crazy rise in hatred throughout the world. I can't pinpoint when it started to explode though.

This is an obvious case of divide and rule. I don't know how people are not seeing this. Stop hating women, your mothers sisters wives, and daughters, literally half of the population is women. Not everyone is out there to get you. And stop hating men, a man would do anything for the people he loves. Yes there are bad people and they do horrible acts, these acts may differ based on the gender they are but no that doesn't make the entire gender bad. I feel like an Idiot stating the obvious.

Why are we so racist? What's with the inhuman things I read about even children just because of the color of their skin?

Something terrible is happening and nobody is paying attention to it. It's easier to rule us when we are so divided. Take it from a person who belongs to a race of people who were ruled for hundreds of years by this same strategy of divide and rule.

Don't let them fill your hearts with hate. How condescending of them to think they can manipulate us like idiots by making us hate each other for stupid reasons. Remember Apes together strong.

79 Comments
2024/10/09
15:14 UTC

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How To Convince My Sister To Move From A Manipulative Narcissist?

tl:dr:
How to get my sister to move to my city WITHOUT her abusive boyfriend (if only temporarily)?

The sequel to this ugly situation:

https://www.reddit.com/r/UnethicalLifeProTips/comments/1fsvlf4/ulpt_request_get_my_sister_to_break_up_with_a/

Summation: my sister lives with a REAL piece of work, and I've been trying to figure out how to leave him

Despite everything, I haven't quite worked out how to get her to break up with her abusive boyfriend. I haven't even convinced her to move out of his place, but while I can't get her to MOVE OUT, we had a conversation, and I might convince her to MOVE.
I got her to agree to a sit-down soon, where we'll discuss the "how" and "when" of her moving near where I live, from her semi-urban location to my rural one.

The tricky thing, however, is that I want to convince her to that moving without her abusive boyfriend is a good (or at least acceptable) idea.
She probably won't agree to this in the capacity of a breakup (I've never known abused women who could just be talked into leaving), but I figure if I can get at least a month or a few months of separation between the two of them, she might reevaluate her life choices, like how devoid of stress life without him would be, and perhaps make a decent decision.
Might even convince her to see a therapist. I've been told she could benefit from assertiveness training.

How? I know he has urban sensibilities (he likes to club and parkour) and there's none of those amenities out here, so that might be an angle.

5 Comments
2024/10/08
12:15 UTC

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How scammers make money

I dont belive that some milionare with milions fells for hey its google support your account was hacked i need your password

6 Comments
2024/10/04
11:07 UTC

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Are there any events or meetups in London, UK that you know of?

Bonus if you actually recommend it! I'm looking to meet and hang out with folks with interest in social engineering. Ta

4 Comments
2024/10/03
11:09 UTC

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I Speak So Slow And Also My Tone Is Low. How Is There An Explanation To It?

So since when I was a child everybody ask me why I speak like as slow as a turtle and sometimes whenever I talk to people, they told me to talk louder. I'm not sure if it's my vocal cords problem but what I know is this makes me look weak and dumb as hell. However, I physically look strong and I'm tall but this voice tone problem completely nerf my capabilities.If there is a solution to it, Please tell me.

8 Comments
2024/10/03
10:27 UTC

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How to gaslight a gaslighter?

Basically the question. That's all. I don't want to shut him down and i don't want to seek therapy no. I just want my sweet revenge. So how do i gaslight a gaslighter? I tried to remain as calm and aloof as possible but nothing happens except we are just not fighting. Usually if i got angry and pointed out his actions he would deny it and call me crazy and that would rage me. But i am calm and just not falling into his traps BUT he is still throwing those traps. I want him to regret throwing those traps. Come on i am bored so how do I gaslight this mf back?

15 Comments
2024/10/02
12:14 UTC

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Quick Ways To Discover Someone's Strengths and Weaknesses?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Manipulation/comments/1fsm5ye/how_to_get_someone_to_dump_a_manipulative/

In the thread linked above, I asked the simple question: how to get my sister to dump a manipulative narcissist who'll only beat and hurt her if she stays in a relationship with him.

I've asked this in various circles, and I liked the answers I got (some of them, anyways) but all the good-sounding strategies rely upon one thing I don't have: a thorough understanding of the dude's personality.

Sure, I know he's a liar and an abuser who'll smack her through a wall and throw things when pissed off, but it seems the key to getting him to reveal his true colors is to have a knowledge of him I don't currently possess.

His strengths.
His weaknesses.
What he likes.
What he hates.

I need to know all of this, and more.
The long route of casual conversation isn't acceptable. I'm not going to have the occasional talk with him to glean a bit here and there, while he uses my sister as a punching bag.

So, I ask:
What are some good ways (I'm imagining personality tests) to figure these things out about someone?
I remember the vile underbelly of the internet where PUAs lie, there are tests to entertain or figure someone out quickly, but I'm not looking to date this wife-beater.

11 Comments
2024/10/01
21:02 UTC

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