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Reddit for Apes — news, analysis, theories, discussion, podcasts and more, including the upcoming Disney era beginning with Wes Ball’s film (2024). Apes will Rise!
Planet of the Apes is a 1968 American science fiction film directed by Franklin J. Schaffner, based on the 1963 novel La planète des singes by Pierre Boulle.
In 2001, Planet of the Apes was selected for preservation in the United States National Film Registry by the Library of Congress as being "culturally, historically, or aesthetically significant".
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Let's theorize about the future of Planet of the Apes based on the biology of great apes! If we consider the gestation period and reproductive rate, chimpanzees have an obvious advantage. With shorter gestations (~7.5 months) and the potential to have up to 6 offspring over a lifetime, they would have a higher population growth rate compared to gorillas and orangutans, which have longer gestations (~8.5 months) and fewer offspring.
On the other hand, orangutans, with their solitary behavior and slow reproductive cycle, would be the least likely to dominate in numbers. Gorillas, although more social, would also have a hard time because of their low reproductive rate. Thus, in a society of intelligent apes, chimpanzees would probably become the majority species, not only because of their biology, but also because of the cooperative social behavior they already exhibit.
What do you think? Would chimpanzees really dominate, or would other dynamics come into play?
I thought that seeing Rocket in Guardians of the Galaxy 3 returning to his savage state, we could have something like that, I find it more interesting than a nuclear route at the end of the new trilogy.
For me personally I would make the plot take place after Dawn because we know he survived and may be created along with followers that didn’t become donkeys they would go somewhere far away from Caesar and probably build the coastline kingdom that we see in kingdom of the planet of the apes and we get to see an action sequence where koba and his followers attack people who have made refuge in a cargo ship that has crashed onto the shore and kill them and collect their and learn much quicker than most other apes how human technology works, and when they forget how to use guns (100-200 years after Kobas death) they would be reignited to leave the cargo ship which has been rotting by Kobas descendants and lead it to where they make their home in kingdom of the planet of the apes, I also want to see koba with a bunch of new sick scars, what are your thoughts?
Aliens infect every single ape with the Simian Flu in 20,000 BC. However, Humans are not affected by this version of the simian flu. As the human population around 1 million world wide, so there is no point. Who would become the dominant species? Assume the apes function and work like they do in the movies.
Sorry. this is probably a common question but i wanted to get some people’s opinions. what order should i watch these movies in?
I’m amazed, these films are so good. I remember Rise coming out in 2011 and I never bothered with it. Sometime last week I put it on randomly and now I’m hooked. I’ve been watching an Apes film a day. I’ve watched all the reboots and now I’m watching the classic series, I just a few minutes ago finished Escape and it was fantastic. I can’t get enough of these movies, I feel like people don’t talk about them enough. I’ve had an absolute blast with each one and I wish I got into them sooner. I am going to be sad once I’ve seen them all :(
Just something I noticed and appreciate in Kingdom is the way Noa and Proximus pursue evolution.
Proximus embodies a self-serving and oppressive view of evolution. For him, progress is defined by power and domination rather than pursuing it for the betterment of apekind. He sees human technology not only as a tool for advancement but as a shortcut to strengthening his control, craving the benefits of innovation without putting in the effort to understand or work for it himself. He believes evolution should be handed to him on a silver platter, bypassing the hard work, learning, and adaptation that true progress demands.
Noa on the other hand represents a more altruistic approach to evolution rooted in ingenuity, community and cultural growth. Where Proximus seeks to take, Noa works to learn.
His intelligence and resourcefulness are evident from the very beginning, as he repairs a broken part of a fish rack and later tinkers with a damaged electric staff until it works again. These moments highlight noa’s ability to innovate and adapt, traits that define his evolutionary skills, a stark contrast to Proximus’s desire to take shortcuts to power. Noa strives to understand and improve, embodying the role of a leader who champions progress through knowledge and hard work. He is an ape who is true.
Proximus’s oppressive and shortsighted approach may offer immediate power, but it’s unsustainable and ultimately destructive. Noa’s path driven by creativity and unity fosters a society that values true growth and progress, one where the apes can come together to build something meaningful and better for a brighter future. This is what makes Noa the spark of a new age of technological advancement among the apes.
It would be really cool to see this insane bonobo fighting new enemies in far away places.
I'm very tired. I binged 3 movies today and that was probably too much.
But! Thoughts!
The original 5 movies really hold up and I'm so glad I watched them. Cornelius, Zira, and Caesar are absolute delights and I'm happy to have enjoyed their journies. The first five movies really cemented me as enjoying and wanting to be part of this fandom.
I dont like the 2001 movie, But I've said that before, so I'll leave it aFandom.
So the new thoughts!
I've watched Rise, Dawn, War, and Kingdom. And woooooooh. What a hell of a ride. Caesar is best boi and I wish him all the love in the world. Very obvious Moses parallels throughout his story I thought but the ones that were there were well used and made sense so it wasn't just narrative parallels for the sake of parallels. The big one was leading his people to a new ho.e but dying when he had seen it finally. Not like. 1 to 1. But still. I'm a bit rambling and giddy. I really really really enjoy the new reboot series. Rise is probably the weakest entry in the Trilogy but it's still fantastic. I loved the Apes escaping to find a new home and the chaos that caused. Also I now understand. I do. Apes Together Strong. Dawn? Easily second best of the Trilogy imo. Carver and Koba can go to hell for ruining the possibility of peace between species. But also Blue Eyes is precious and must be protected. Except about that!
War... War Never Changes.
Holy frick. I legit cried a couple times during War. During Caesar's desperate struggle with the grenade and during his death after leading his people to peace. It was beautiful. The colonel was horrible and awful and I loved to hate him. I adored the way the virus was starting to affect humans, it made it really start to feel like it was going the same place the original went. I want that contrast of humans as beasts. And we do get that! In Kingdom especially. Kingdom was a bit silly but a ton of fun. Raka is probably my favorite character from the movie I love the orangutans and I love seeing how knowledge has changed even in just this amount of time. Just through passing down through the generations. Also William H. Macey. Gotta love him. I love Jurassic Park so I can only remember him as Paul Kirby from the Third JP movie but he was excellent in Kingdom.
Anyway, those are my basic thoughts, but feel free to ask any specific questions to get the insight of a newcomer yo the franchise who just finished 50 years worth of 10 movies lol
The other people who fired at the military basis and and came at the end of the movie. Who were they? And what did they want? The had all white uniforms so they weren’t soldiers, right?
Where did all the humans that helped Caesar like Malcolm and Ellie and the others from the colony go? They were never mentioned again in War. I mean, couldn’t the apes have just returned to the city where the humans lived? They helped and understood each other (like Malcolm).
What happens to the little girl Nova? did she live with all of the apes in their colony?
I know this isn’t the case but I think it’s a cool concept. I think from Rise to Beneath are in the same timeline but the history of Caesar’s time was lost to time causing historical inconsistencies. And the new timeline was created when the trio traveled back in time. The trio then bring a new/different strain of the ALZ virus back in time that doesn’t quite affect humans as badly as the original strain. That’s why apes changed so much from Escape to conquest.
This is just a head cannon there are far more plot holes that I haven’t considered yet but I still think it’s a fun idea.
What do you think?
The apes became more intelligent after the spread of the virus, and humans started dying off because of it. That doesn't really make sense because humans are also in the great ape family with chimpanzees, gorillas, and orangutans. It doesn't make sense that the virus positively affected every other ape except humans.
Not only that, there are restored scenes with more graphic violence and it's awesome.
Not only am I new to Reddit, but I'm new to the PotA fandom. I recently watched all ten movies with my mom and sister (who are very big fans). I personally didn't like the original movies or the Tim Burton reboot, but I loved the Andy Serkis trilogy and Kingdom! (Which was my favorite one.) I see that there's a lot of mixed opinions on Kingdom, so I wanted to put myself out there and say that I absolutely love it and it's a near-perfect movie! Noa was a fantastic main character and I desperately hope to see more of him in the next one! I would love it if there was an extended novel of the story (since I'm a huge reader), but since it's been months since the movie came out, I'm starting to doubt that it'll happen. (Though I really want one! 😄)
That's all! Thank you for reading this! 😁
Where did they go?
And wow. I love this franchise a lot. Im checking back in after the 2001 movie. I am retroactively giving Beneath the Planet of the Apes a few points for being more plot relevant as time went on. Still probably my least favorite of the original 5 but uh... Well... I've watched the Tim Burton one. We'll get to that in a moment though. But wow! 1, 3, and 4 are like excellent. 1 is the best obviously but wow was 3 a lot of fun and tense there at the end. 4 is possibly my personal favorite even if it's objectively not the absolute best. I loved watching the Ape Rebellion In action though. And Caesar was an excellent character and leader for that rebellion. Which gives me hope for the next reboot series since I'm aware that's part of it.
Sadly I thought 5 was a bit bland and by the books. It wasn't awful. I've seen worse movies. But it was very very predictable. Which I'm sure lends it more enjoyable to some people than others. I did really enjoy getting to see more of Caesar though, even if he wasn't quite as much of a revolutionary anymore.
And now... the travesty. I really hated the 2001 reboot. I'm sure this is common opinion. It's a shame too because the male Ape makeup is incredible. The female Ape makeup less so because they refuse to just make them look like apes because they wanted them to be sexually attractive for some reason? At least that's how it seems at a glance. Tim Burton is weird, man. Anyway, this was just sort of a nonsense ride with off-putting acting from start to finish, characters just believing what people say to them for the convenience of plot, and also just a lot of really bad callbacks to the original movie. I don't know that I ever want to watch this one again, whereas I do think I'd really like to rewatch the original 5 at some point. I'm harping on this movie a lot but I just disliked it so much I needed to talk about it. And again I'm sure its common opinion but as someone watching all these for the first time without being spoiled on them except for the twist of the first movie, well... it just stood out, you know?
I'm rambling, but that's my vague thoughts on the first 6 movies. What about you guys who have probably seen them all more than once? What's your opinion on the first 6 movies?
I just want to give credit to Mae on how strong and resilient she is. She just witnessed her entire group, including her own mother, brutally slaughtered by Proximus's apes. Yet despite such a deeply traumatizing event, she remained focused to complete their mission. There was no time to grieve or process what happened, she must push forward.
She ventured alone and survived in an unpredictable wilderness for what could have been weeks, maybe even more than a month, without any supplies or resources. It's implied she was raised in a bunker too so this was truly a testament of her perseverance and survival skills. Then she ran into the Eagle Clan’s village, after just witnessing apes kill her group she’d have no idea whether these apes would be any different, if they’d be hostile or even more dangerous. The fear and uncertainty must have been overwhelming but she took the risk to steal food from them anyway!
She was a complete wreck, a disheveled, traumatized mess alone in a world filled with constant reminders of humanity’s former glory. Now that world is dominated by hyper-intelligent apes, creatures ten times stronger than any human and evolving so rapidly that any hope for her kind to rebuild is slipping away. Anyone in her position would've given up, but she didn't. She's the very embodiment of the indomitable human spirit
In War, I counted two organutans, but one of them was killed by the Colonel. So how was an organgutan population able to emerge between War and Kingdom, if there was only one orangutan left?