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Cal & Stanford would be great too, but I think they’re off the table.

This would be a really fun conference and I hope everything gets worked out for this to become the Pac 12. Fun games every single week. Plus the basketball side of things would be awesome as well. Conference games between Memphis, Gonzaga, SDSU, etc. would be awesome.

1: Boise State 7-1(3-0)

2: Oregon State 4-4(2-0)

3: Memphis 7-2(1-0)

4: Tulane 7-2(1-0)

5: Washington State 7-1(2-1)

6: Colorado State 6-3(0-1)

7: Fresno State 5-4(0-1)

8: Utah State 2-6(0-1)

9: USF 4-4(0-2)

10: San Diego State 3-5(0-3)

Let's say the Pac-12 currently looked like this (before it imploded, this was almost certainly going to be the 12 team lineup for 2025):

Oregon, Oregon State, Washington, Washington State, California, Stanford, Colorado, Utah, Arizona, Arizona State, San Diego State, SMU

Where would the Pac-12 rank amongst the P5 conferences?

https://x.com/rossdellenger/status/1852714620395335901?s=46&t=qwoy3jQLjUVMaVlrvz-rVg

Boise, Oregon State, San Diego, and Wazzu can get close to the bottom teams (if the average will be $14, BYU, Houston, Wake, etc will probably be under $10) but can CSU, Fresno, and Utah State? Will we see a clear separation within the league as costs ramp up?

(click reader view to see full article if doesnt just load for you)

https://www.idahostatesman.com/sports/college/mountain-west/boise-state-university/boise-state-football/article294868514.html?taid=6724ffba61a8fb0001f1561c&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

(its yesterdays paywalled Mercury News article)

https://wsucougars.com/news/2024/11/1/cougars-add-james-madison-complete-2025-football-schedule.aspx

What is the best way to build our conference? Theses seem to be our options.

Options 1-3 Assume we can get AAC schools & Options 4-6 assume we cant.

Option 1

Add a full Eastern Division (5 East adds +CSU). I.E. Memphis, Tulane, S. FL, UTSA, + 1 more

Option 2

Add 2 or 3 full member Eastern schools for a 9 or 10 Team FB league. Eastern teams become travel partners. Memphis, Tulane & maybe one more

Option 3

Add only Memphis to get to 8 full members and add either Wichita St or St Louis as a nonfootball school and a travel partner.

Option 4

Add a MW school, preferably UNLV, to get to 8 full members. Not likely at this point.

Option 5

Add a Sunbelt or C-USA school as a full add. The only reasonable options here IMO would be Texas St , New Mexico St, W. Kentucky, LA Tech or Louisiana.

Option 6

Add an FCS school. One of the Dakota St schools or a Montana school. Sac St is also trying to make some noise for this.

Option 7

Get to 8 full members via one of the options 1-6 and then build a football only East Division or an Eastern division with some football only schools. These are the schools that could join us for football and also the nonfootball division 1 conf they could join (best fit) for non football sports. This would help solve the regionality issues that would be created of having an Eastern Division for football.

Memphis / Uconn (already a member) - Big East

W. Kentucky / Toledo / NIU - Missouri Valley

JMU / Liberty - Horizon or Patriot League

Texas St - Summit League

Tulane / S. Florida / Louisiana / UTSA - *A10

*only an option if A10 is willing to move South.

Option 8

After getting to at least 8 full members, build our Basketball conference via division 1 basketball teams that dont have football programs like we are doing with Gonzaga. IMO we would only consider teams to the West of Memphis for regionality reasons.

Saint Marys / Wichita St / St Louis / San Fran

if Uconn Leaves the Big East Creighton could become an option as well, but very unlikely.

Option 9

Mend Bridges with the Mountain West and merge.

Did i miss any of the options available?

Posted because I assume this is a ripple of realignment. I'm guessing the need for an NBA quality basketball arena in Reno with the Wolf Pack in the much diminished MW now is much lower....

Sucks for the Wolf Pack.

https://nevadasportsnet.com/newsletter-daily/developers-seeking-public-financing-arena-project-reno-grand-sierra-resort-city-council-nevada-wolf-pack-arena

Part of the approval for the new giant casino was because the casino was building an NBA quality arena that the Wolfpack would use for games and they planned to host basketball tournaments there - and it would all be built with private money.

They now say they want up to a billion dollars - in public funds - to complete the sports portion of build.

https://www.cbsnews.com/sacramento/news/sac-state-announces-new-research-in-push-for-pac-12/

Sorry for the poorly worded title. Study about Sac State and how they would be the second largest designated media area in the PAC-12, and they have already raised $57 million from 20 donors for NIL.

Here is a YouTube video on it:

https://youtu.be/X90MOhVj1Tc?si=xJRCNcxueuMoKq4U

https://x.com/BeaverBaseball/status/1852080559398490183

The rules are simple, sell me on why your pick should be the next Pac12 expansion team. No debates, no multiple targets, just one......ready, steady, GO!

https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2024/10/oregon-states-piecemeal-2025-football-schedule-costs-millions-less-than-mountain-west-agreement.html

https://x.com/bjrains/status/1852007749942677814?s=46&t=qwoy3jQLjUVMaVlrvz-rVg

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https://x.com/TBM_JY/status/1851728428132622406

Do we care?

Good for them?

Still sitting out here with the only school still publicly lobbying for a Pac-12 spot is Sac State....

The B1G I believe have or had a rule requiring teams to schedule at least one P4 opponent in out of conference play.

Recognizing our new position it might be smart to adopt that for the new PAC. Raises exposure and a (fill in the blank) team that goes on a run would benefit from a P4 upset on the resume. Thoughts?

https://youtube.com/shorts/UC2UJiqhbao?feature=share

What if we do secure Memphis, Tulane, USF and UTSA? Does this create a situation where the AAC starts looking at some of those MW schools to help fill in the blanks? Does this entice UNLV to come to the Pac12 and Air Force to join its armed forces members in the AAC? Does the Sun Belt become the next victim of the realignment spiral?

It’s super quiet out there… almost too quiet.

Imagine if you will a world where it’s Halloween 2026.

Chuck, Shaq, and Ernie are hosting “PAC-12 Pre Season Hoops” a double header Boise State at Memphis followed by Saint Marys at Gonzaga on TNT

There’s a full day of football, the morning game on Max is Wazzu at UTSA, followed by San Diego at Colorado State on the CW, then Utah State at Boise State on the CW, and the night game is Tulane at Oregon State on CBS/Paramount+

The Beavers beat Houston and Texas Tech, Tulane beat Kansas State and Duke, both are 4-0 in conference play. It’s standing room only at Resers, it’s still a four way race for first place in the Pac-12 between Wazzu, Oregon State, Tulane, and Fresno State. Boise dropped one early to Memphis because of a costly pick, but they aren’t out of it.

Say they run their schedule and beat OSU. PAC12 is technically still a conference, right?

It would require Boise to falter and the Big12 winner to slip also. Or are they excluded from that 5th spot because the NCAA is dumb?

2024 TV ratings of PAC-12/MW/AAC-4/Texas State on linear tv by Week (from https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/college-football-tv-ratings/, week 9 from https://tvmediablog.substack.com/p/2024-college-football-week-9-viewership)

WEEK 9 - Boise State/UNLV was likely the most watched game this week, but nobody knows because it was stuck on CBSSN. This was a week to forget in the ratings as it seems the Calgorithm determined that the World Series was a better watch than any teams of interest to the PAC. (Bye week: Air Force, Texas State, USF)

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Week 0

Week 1

Week 2

Week 3 (Bye week: Boise State)

Week 4 (Bye week: UNLV)

Week 5 (Bye week: Oregon State)

Week 6 (Bye week: Washington State)

Week 7 (Bye week: Tulane)

Week 8 (Bye week: Boise State, San Diego State)