Hello everyone, this theard is to share with you a thought I had the other day about the explosion of meme coins: crypto is finally becoming mature, which is excellent news for Monero, but only on the long-run.

I think there have been 3 ages of crypto:

• Childhood (2008-2021): crypto industry as we know it today appeared in 2008 with Bitcoin, and a number of other projects aimed at doing better or bringing new features (anonymity, smart contract etc.).

  • Crypto had to prove that it was viable, and gained traction very gradually over these 13 years.

• Teenage years (2021-2025): crypto became known to the general public, with a certain number of excesses and stupid things being done (Solana, rug pulls, meme coins etc.).

  • Crypto has had too many excesses, and is in the process of finding itself through its excesses.

• Adulthood (2025-...): a lot of irrelevant projects will gradually die out, and the only ones left will be those that actually make a difference.

  • I think this is when Monero will really gain attention, because of its unique features (anonymity, fungibility, etc.).

This, combined with the gradual delisting of CEXs, means that Monero should attract the attention and traction it deserves, but this will happen very gradually over the next few years.

What do you think?

Please stay on topic: this post is only for comments discussing the uncertainties, shortcomings, and concerns some may have about Monero.

NOT the positive aspects of it.

Discussion can relate to the technology itself or economics.

Talk about community and price is not wanted, but some discussion about it maybe allowed if it relates well.

Be as respectful and nice as possible. This discussion has potential to be more emotionally charged as it may bring up issues that are extremely upsetting: many people are not only financially but emotionally invested in the ideas and tools around Monero.

It's better to keep it calm then to stir the pot, so don't talk down to people, insult them for spelling/grammar, personal insults, etc. This should only be calm rational discussion about the technical and economic aspects of Monero.

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Post your concerns about Monero in reply to this main post.

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Upvote the comments that are the most valid criticisms of it that have few or no real honest solutions/answers to them.

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I've been trying to swap all day with all the providers listed but every time it says "request timed out", does anyone know how to fix this or know a site that actually works?

When Monero is banned due to issues with "Money laundering" and "Terrorism funding". Like we've seen with Japan, South Korea, Australia, UAE & Morocco.

They'll begin to target Haveno and entrap people which most people use PayPal, cashapp etc which are tied to a real identity.

How do we survive this other than continue using Bitcoin as a Trojan horse into the mainstream in order to be able to swap Bitcoin for Monero?

Hi all,

We launched sigmanero.org back in April but since then the adoption has not picked up.

The concept of a betting exchange using multisig might be too early to take off just yet, especially since the hard work of building a network effect is yet to be done.

However this served as a proof of concept that this can be done, especially the step of generating multisigs among strangers in a quick way on the browser. Hopefully people will see this and iterate for future products.

Thanks to all the people that registered and gave it a try! We repeat the well known advice that user feedback is crucial, so if anyone is thinking of launching something, do it now and learn quickly what works and what doesn't.

Final call to one user who won a bet but lost its seed key -- we added the option to request a refund by asking the counterpart to sign a refund of the funds -- better than nothing!

Initial post for reference::https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1c8rzib/announcement\_sigmaneroorg\_sports\_betting\_with/

So long!

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This is the weekly Monero market thread. This thread will be posted every Friday and is meant to help accelerate the adoption of Monero. Due to r/moneromarket having only a fraction of the subscribers of r/Monero, we have decided to create this thread to encourage more individuals to use Monero for product exchanges. Until the market matures, we recommend that the Monero community post their products both in this thread and on r/moneromarket (to ensure growth of that subreddit).

Selling items for Monero will boost your (and Monero's) reputation as a legitimate form of exchange of goods. This is necessary for the growth of Monero, our community, and privacy as a whole.

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When you post your product or job listing here, please make sure to:

• Give a description of the item.
• Link to a photo of the item (if it's physical).
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• Optionally, provide an additional (private) form of communication outside of Reddit (e.g. Bitmessage, u/protonmail, u/tutanota, GPG key).
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Spamming will not be tolerated. Please make sure that listings are legitimate and do not break rule 2."

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Is this the right website https://haveno-reto.com/

MacOS warns you that it could contain malware. Safe to ignore?

Also, is there a way to import feedback from other sites or is that not a thing?

Hi.

After reading some of the comments under this post https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1gku3gl/reto_just_announced_that_they_will_remove_trade/, I realized that people don't understand what USDT is and why it is needed as a tool.

If you don't know what USDT is, it is a centralized stablecoin from the very shady/scammy company Tether.

Within the USDT smart contract there is a blocking feature. This is when law enforcement agencies work together with Chainalysis and other know-you-transaction engines work together to block someone's funds for various reasons (guess which ones).

And that's where the “scaremongering” in comments from people who don't realize that 99.99999999% of the time they won't face blocking because... um, they probably don't have enough liquidity (I don't want to offend anyone) and aren't doing the things they might catch blocking for.

Here you can see how often and how much USDT is blocked and on what network: https://x.com/search?q=%28has+just+been+frozen%29+%28from%3Awhale_alert%29&f=live

Why have USDT as an option for Haveno? Why not <some-other-stable>?

Because of the liquidity of USDT. Take a look at this https://defillama.com/stablecoins and compare these numbers to your favorite stablecoin (if you have one).

The second point, those people from the Monero community who live in Asian countries, CIS countries, African countries, Latin American countries - they understand what USDT is and what role it has long played in the life and economy of their countries.

I'm talking about over-the-counter (OTC) trading and that USDT is the exit point from fiat into the crypto world. More often it is USDT (TRC20) on the Tron network and not USDT (ERC20) on the Ethereum network, but now this small detail is not important for my post.

How exactly can USDT be useful to you?

A lot of people here complained that Kraken removed XMR, and that it was convenient for many people to send bank transfers, from their account, buy XMR there and withdraw.

I explain very simply how USDT + Haveno-Reto can be useful to you.

Option_1: Kraken (or any other centralized exchange where you deliberately made KYC to send wire transfers on your behalf) + USDT + Haveno-Reto:

1. send a EUR/USD/GBP/etc bank transfer to a centralized exchange, like you used to do when XMR was available on your favorite centralized exchange
2. buy USDT
3. withdraw USDT (ERC20) to a non-custodial wallet (tips on non-custodial wallets will be at the end of this post)
4. open Haveno-Reto and buy XMR

Option_2: buy USDT (ERC20) on the OTC market with cash and/or bank transfer and buy XMR on Haveno-Reto.

This option may be much easier and more convenient for someone than buying XMR directly for cash. Or maybe not. We are all different, and we are all marketed differently. And that's fine. :)

When you choose one of the options and/or make your own, it goes without saying that you can add Tor, Whonix, i2p, and anything else you want to this chain. For example, it might make sense for someone to withdraw USDT (ERC20) to address_1, then transfer it to address_2 and then buy XMR on Haveno-Reto. Why? Well... think for a moment :)

Who should not worry about using USDT

If you deliberately buy USDT on a centralized exchange (like Kraken) to then withdraw to a non-custodial wallet and buy XMR.

Who should be careful

If you are engaged in some kind of activity that your favorite state does not like.

Also, if someone wants to buy on the OTC market USDT directly for a wire transfer in their own name - be careful and only trade with verified traders. Why? Because you may be sold USDT that was for example involved in drug trafficking, and when the guys in uniform come to the trader, they will be able to trace you, even though you knew nothing and honestly sent your wire transfer to buy USDT. Such USDT may have a “bad AML score” (another scam from the existing system to make it harder for you to enter/exit the fiat world).

If you buy USDT for cash without KYC - this is the best option, and you can safely go to Haveno-Reto and exchange USDT for XMR.

Alternatives to USDT

There have been a couple comments along the lines of “why not DAI?” and “why not LUSD?”.

DAI rebranded to SKY (USDS = Uncle Sam's Digital Shitcoin) and added a locking feature there. That is, DAI will still exist (for now), but all efforts and all work will be centered on USDS. So, either DAI will be picked up by a super active community (which I doubt) or DAI will slowly die.

Liquity (LUSD) v1. I was introduced to this stablecoin by a friend of mine in the Monero community. Yes, LUSD is currently censorship-resistant without blocking/freezing feature. And I'm glad that some people remembered in the comment section LUSD as an alternative to shady/scammy USDT. :)

But it has very, very little liquidity compared to USDT.

For me USDT and LUSD are like a hammer and a saw, two completely different tools for completely different purposes.

And moreover, if you want to get LUSD it is an additional step, which often lies through the purchase of ETH, which is much more difficult (usually) to buy for example for cash on the OTC market. But yeah, you can send the same bank transfer to the same centralized exchange, buy ETH, withdraw it to Metamask and get LUSD.

Important point, once again - no one is calling anyone to keep their savings in USDT. This is a tool that you need to learn how to use correctly based on your vision/state of the market.

I hope that in the future I will see on Haveno-Reto the possibility to buy XMR for USDT (TRC20) which is on Tron network. That is, shady/scammy USDT + shady/scammy/centralized Tron network. What could be better, lol.

Also, I hope to see support for LUSD (version 1) because it's a cool project.

Wallet recommendations for USDT (ERC20)

I don't use proprietary wallets, and I don't advise you to, but I'll leave 1 proprietary wallet on the list here for you to make your own choice.

My choice is: https://unstoppable.money/

Why? Because: https://walletscrutiny.com/android/io.horizontalsystems.bankwallet/

You can also use Metamask as a browser extension as well as a standalone app on Andoid/iOS.

The most popular wallet for storing and using USDT is: https://trustwallet.com/

Trust Wallet was an open source wallet, but after they were bought by Binance in 2018 - the wallet became proprietary. The company's explanation is to protect me so that hackers don't copy their UI. Yes, yes, yes, of course, thank you. /s

I've used Trust Wallet for a long, long time and I personally haven't had any problems. Why did I use it? Because all the alternatives that were available at that moment were even more proprietary and many times more shady.

But, I did this: https://github.com/horizontalsystems/unstoppable-wallet-android/issues/5355 and after some time Unstoppable Wallet developers added Tron support and I immediately unistalled Trust Wallet.

And I would like to take this opportunity to ask you to post here if you are waiting for XMR to be added to Unstoppable Wallet like me: https://github.com/horizontalsystems/unstoppable-wallet-android/issues/5492

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Thank you for your attention.

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EDIT. I see that people add in comments different stablecoins that they like for some reason. Remember to always DYOR, so you don't lose money with a no-name stablecoin that is 1.5 months old and liquidity for a 2-pack of beer.

Someone (possibly the same shady people that were behind the dead "haveno main" network) has set up a second Haveno network called "Haveno-AIoha" after they saw the first real network called reto (https://haveno-reto.com) gaining some traction.

"AIoha" got criticized by a few people in the Haveno matrix chat for their completely unreadable GitHub repository with nearly 2000 unnecessary changed files:

https://preview.redd.it/3rc00rqg9gzd1.png?width=1215&format=png&auto=webp&s=e2ff7199f7b606306d3cc5668b9784a85da8b4f0

They, for some reason I can't explain, made a weird negative remark about a default Haveno setting that is literally used by themselves?

As well as claiming they started "months before" the reto network, meanwhile their GitHub history was only going back a meere 4 days, not to mention that reto launched 2 days after Haveno went 1.0.0, so it's literally not possible that "AIoha" started "months before". They also copied most of their websites wording from retos website.

https://preview.redd.it/42uspbbpagzd1.png?width=633&format=png&auto=webp&s=65242f0f3105c66fc14ad82b57c41c79a51aa73b

What do they do next? Instead of just fixing their messed up GitHub, they start going completely schizophrenic and accuse random people like u/rottenwheel, u/boldsuck and me of running reto:

https://preview.redd.it/27st3qzpbgzd1.png?width=1124&format=png&auto=webp&s=64ffbc2bb8ffe4c3bf634828fb7c77ce28b9b31a

They also wrote paragraphs and paragraphs projecting their own actions onto me?

https://preview.redd.it/7rswjl6vcgzd1.png?width=465&format=png&auto=webp&s=d1900917dcc44d0b1d5890cbf756066a901805c3

These people are absolutely unhinged and I would HIGHLY suggest everyone to avoid them.

I believe nobody in their right mind would trust these people to properly handle disputes after seeing them go off the rails like this over some minor criticism

That being said, they did make exactly one great contribution that I am thankful for:

By announcing that they would have no trade fee, they made reto remove their fee as well!

This is a win for the community but also removes any incentive to use "aIoha" compared to reto, which has been running without any controversies for the past 6 months and nearly 1500 completed trades.

It also hit a new liquidity ATH of 2300 XMR recently, check out this thread on how to get started:

Haveno is Live on Mainnet: How to Install : Monero

Hi I would like to understand the whole codebase of monero. I somewhat understand the theory and the cryptographic part of it (read some books of bitcoin and monero), but I do not know the specific code nor the specific programming language used. What would be the best way to become a code contributor for xmr?

Is there a benefit in using one monero wallet over another? I downloaded Monero GUI sometime ago because of something I read on this sub that gave me the impression it was better for Monero than something like Exodus. I opened it recently after a long time of inactivity and it is processing a lot of things. I'm not exactly sure what it's doing but it looks like it might be downloading the entire blockchain.

Want to jump in and start using monero, both using as currency but might be interrested in trading also.

Any tips for a begginer?

I have experience with self-hosted stuff, so don't be shy to propose something more complex.

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I’m adding to the mini pool my 60KHs.

If we want people to come p2pool we need to make the path easy. Most of them will start at the mini pool and right now there’s not enough hashrate to find a block every 6 hours, so many of the newcomers don’t get paid regularly.

Maybe some of us could do this and push the p2pool adoption a little bit.

Dear Monero Community,

You are not just users of a cryptocurrency—you’re part of a movement focused on protecting financial freedom and privacy in an increasingly watched world. Monero represents something larger than digital money; it’s a statement of independence, a shield for those who believe privacy is a right, not a privilege.

Don’t let short-term market trends discourage you. Price dips come and go, but Monero’s mission stands strong, even in the face of resistance. Remember, anything truly valuable will face challenges, and Monero is no different. The pushback we see only highlights the power of what we’re building.

In recent times, Monero has faced delistings from major exchanges, largely due to regulatory pressures. But this community refuses to be deterred. In response, we’re building alternative solutions like Haveno. These projects are a testament to our resilience, ensuring that Monero remains accessible despite obstacles. We continue to innovate and adapt, showing that our commitment to privacy and freedom is unwavering.

With every block mined, Monero becomes more than just a coin. It’s a platform for true autonomy—a tool for those who want control over their finances without outside interference. Monero is here for everyone who values security, privacy, and true ownership of their assets.

Stay committed. In a world where surveillance grows and centralized control spreads, you are helping to defend the right to choose, to transact freely, and to remain private. This community is unique—driven, diverse, and united by the belief that we deserve control over our financial lives.

Let’s stand together and keep moving forward. We’re not just watching the future unfold; we’re shaping it, making privacy and freedom core values, not optional features.

Onward, Monero community! The world is paying attention, and we’re here to set the standard.

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If you use Anonero, what's the experience so far? Are there better cold wallet alternatives?