/r/Columbine
A subreddit focused on constructive discussion to better understand the events that took place surrounding the mass shooting at Columbine High School on April 20th, 1999.
Welcome to r/Columbine.
We are a community of people interested in the mass shooting that took place at Columbine High School on April 20th, 1999.
This sub consists of three types of people:
People doing research on Columbine. They have a paper due, or are genuinely curious and want to learn more about this event which has had a very large influence on American culture and how we conduct our public school systems today.
People who are morbidly curious, and want to find out as much as they can about this event. This is a common phenomenon with macabre topics such as serial killers, conspiracies, and even spree shooters.
People who are sad, depressed, angry, and hurting. These people come here to live vicariously through Eric and Dylan. Most of them will never harm anyone, but the thought has entered their mind, and they want to see how it has been done before by two kids who felt exactly how they feel now.
Regardless of why you're here, we hope that you will participate in the discussions posted here regularly, and we hope that you'll come away with a better understanding of these events, the people involved, and the way the Columbine massacre forever changed the public American consciousness.
Our Mission Statement is to disseminate information regarding the Columbine High School massacre, and create a dialogue to further our understanding of these events. Submissions to the sub need to reflect this mission statement, guiding our analysis and study of Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, and honoring the memories of those who've suffered as a result of this tragedy. The following rules apply not only to the content submitted, but also to any comments made within these posts.
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Random question but i remember finding a blog someone posted where they claimed their mom worked at columbine, and saw the after math of the shooting. Wanted to read it ag and dig deeper.
Where does everyone find the videos of them I’m talking about the ones of them at school or Dylan outside the pizza place
Do you ever wonder how it started? Like whose main idea was it? Did Eric say jokingly that “we should shoot up the school” to see what Dylan’s reaction was. If his reaction was that he agreed how did the conversation go? How did this all get started? Yes, I know they were bullied and they were also the bullies….but what started this whole thing? Do you think at any time one of them said “no this is a bad idea, I think we should not go through with this.” Tell me your thoughts on who got the ball rolling.
Denver used to have a newspaper called the Rocky Mountain News, which we subscribed to at the time. My folks still have many of the issues that had Columbine stories in them. They're an interesting time capsule.
My family was tangentially referenced in the news in some of the events after the shooting, and most of the rest of the box is letters and cards we got from friends and strangers. There are both messages of support and hate mail, some of which we were expected to pass on to the Klebolds. (We did hand off to them any sympathy cards we got for them.) I'll have to go through it all at some point, and probably just shred most of it.
One boy died clenching his eyeglasses, and another gripped a pencil as he drew his last breath.
I'm assuming the boy with eyeglasses is Daniel Mauser but does anyone know who the boy clutching the pencil is?
EDIT: Although I just realised the boy with the glasses could also have been Kyle Velasquez
This is a thought that has been plaguing my mind for the past few months. Eric and Dylan were indefinitely horrible people. There’s no way around it, but they weren’t psychopaths. I think it’s evident that they both cared deeply about their family and their friends to some extent (i say some because they were perfectly okay with them possibly dying in the failed bombing). I think they had some understanding that people would be angry with their families and friends because they explicitly said on the basement tapes that no one should be to blame but themselves. But I don’t think they fully understood how it would completely ruin their families lives and put them in danger. I used to always think about going back in time and giving Dylan the book his mom wrote as silly as it sounds. I genuinely think it would’ve made him change his mind.
LOL it’s 4 AM and i always find myself lurking on this sub during there odd hours.
The fact that Columbine was months before Y2K...
eric told the story of a "clerk" from the "Green Mountains guns store' who almost got him in trouble, when he called the Harris's House bc of his "clips" (did his dad asked him about this?)
or the other time, when his parents caught him with a pipebomb. same with the time, his shotgun was sticking out of his duffelbag... (which his mother could have noticed)
why didnt his parents search his room for more stuff like this... he told, he was hiding it there.
I know that they definitely hated Amy Bernett, Peggy Dodd, Ellen Hayes, and Christine Mikesell, and that they probably hated Dave Sanders and Frank DeAngelis.
Every few months I go down a rabbithole on columbine and today I discovered that Peggy saw Dylan shooting one day outside and went away in fear of being killed by him. Why didn't she call the police on Dylan if she felt terrorized by him, crazy to think that if she made that decision then maybe the shooting could've been stopped, not blaming her whatsoever though.
I heard that Eric Harris had hated his German teacher as he liked everything about his German class but her, and I think she might had been on his hit list.
I was watching the documentary yesterday and I was curious if we know wear Kate battan (the detective) Sean Dugan (the swat sniper) and monte Fleming (the medic) are today
As someone who is not really well versed into the shooting(i know a bit,but not everything),im curious to get some perspectives.
On one hand,ive seen some people online say they werent bullied and saying they were is perpetuating stereotypes that all shooters are bullied.
One the other hand,i saw a post from a few months ago talking about how they wrre called homophobic slurs,etc.
Theres also those kind of articles,etc(i think) every now and then that say that they werent bullied and that it was rumours.
Genuienly curious,as i dont know who to believe.
Ive always thought that nobody could see through the windows of the school that day due to the glare. But this photo I took from a BBC news segment where it shows a helicopter recording through the outside of the library after the massacre, and I had no idea how clear it was to see in.... At least from the angle the helicopter is. So this makes me wonder if the helicopters would of seen through the glass during the massacre unless the sun was in a certain direction. Also ive heard one of the police snipers might of actually witnessed Eric and Dylan's suicide so it definitely makes me wonder.
I just found out that SWAT entered through the southeast entrance of the school at 12:06pm, which would be two minutes before when Eric and Dylan supposably killed themselves at 12:08pm. If they did kill themselves at this time, and SWAT entered two minutes before, is it possible they seen the SWAT team enter the building which made them decide to hurry up and end their lives then? It would make sense why they killed themselves in the library, also they would of had a high vantage point from all the windows which faced the parking lot and the police as well...
I attempted to read Dave Cullen's book when it first came out and I couldn't finish it. I myself was in a dark place and it terrified me. Is there a definitive, more recent book on what happened on that day 25 years ago. I know that there's a lot of information online and that several books have been published about Columbine, but I'm looking for opinions on one or two that contain factual information. I want to know what happened, why it happened, who Eric and Dylan were and what affect the shooting had on Littleton, Colorado and the rest of our country.
I know all the beloved 13 were all special in their own way, and this sounds bizarre (If it does, I will remove this post), but I can’t help but think about these five, their lives, and so much more.
First, Isaiah Shoels had been through so much throughout his life. As an African-American female, I can relate to the stigma and racist attitudes, how much they can hurt. Yet Isaiah rose up and strove to live the best life possible, through sports, humor and music. He was also going to be the first in his family to graduate from high school and go to college, and to think how all of that was snatched away, and how he was treated in his final moments, makes my blood boil, as well as how his family was treated shortly after Columbine, being forced out of town after trying to expose the racism, plus the interview with Isaiah’s dad and Craig Scott (Rachel’s brother) definitely shattered me.
I’m also inspired (and feel connected) by Lauren Townsend, Rachel Scott and Daniel Mauser. Mainly for their inner drive to become their own person, regardless of what others think of them.
Lauren was labeled as a goody-goody by some of the cheerleaders/girls who hung out with the football and basketball players (out of jealousy and envy for her numerous achievements, such as possibly becoming valedictorian, volleyball captain, etc., according to a previous Redditor who commented a few years back), yet she didn’t let it faze her, instead choosing to focus on her future goals. She was driven, hardworking, and passionate about what she wanted to do, and in spite of everything, she remained sweet, humble, quiet, shy and unassuming. Her family had also been through so much even before Columbine, with her parents’ divorce and her mother’s cancer, and lots of good things were happening at the time (prom and graduation for Lauren, her older sister had just gotten engaged, etc.), and E&D ruined everything with their actions. Not to mention she spent her last few moments comforting, shielding and protecting her friends (she died surrounded by them and in the arms of her childhood friend Val Schnurr), even trying to guide Kelly Fleming to hide with her already crowded table, and she was shot the most time.
Rachel was often bullied, mocked or teased for her Christian beliefs, but that didn’t stop her from reaching out to others and she was never afraid of being her own person. She and Lauren weren’t afraid of standing out different from the crowd (ex.: Rachel wearing black to prom while everyone else wore pastels, Lauren getting a haircut and wanting cookies instead of a cake for her 18th birthday, etc.). Even though she wasn’t perfect, she was vibrant and seemed like an incredible young lady, the type of friend that anyone would dream and wish to have.
Daniel M. was bullied for being somewhat of a shy nerd and a geek, but rather than let it bring him down, he chose to channel it into positive energy and make something of himself, such as joining the debate team, running cross country (despite not being very athletic), and focusing on his studies, and so much more.
And Dave Sanders seemed like the ideal family man, teacher and coach that anyone could dream to have. He genuinely cared about his loved ones, colleagues and students, and no matter what he had going on, he would always put his feelings aside and help others out. This was evident in his final moments, helping to get others to safety, warning others, etc. He actually did more to save lives than the SWAT Team and police department that day, and as he bled out waiting for help, his thoughts were still on others.
Thoughts?
So I just saw the basement tapes's transcript in which they insult several of their classmates in their psychology class including Dustin Harrison, Nick Foss, and Jennifer Grant, and when they said that Jennifer and Rachel were too Christian obsessed were they talking about Rachel Baker or Rachel Goodwin cos I know they are not talking about Rachel Scott?
Do we know that the library had functional cameras during the massacre? And the massacre was caught on film ?
If so it will never see the light of day! However were the victims parents and surviving victims allowed to view it ?