Recently binge watched "Luther" and the movie "Fallen Sun." Excellent series, and can't believe I had never heard of it before. So what's next after the movie? Is there much likely of a sequel? Or have we seen the last of John Luther?

Does anyone else think they jumped to "Luther killed Zoe" *reaaaaally* quickly? First off, Zoe calls Luther right before she dies, and Ian had plenty of time (before Luther got there) to stage the house as if Luther went into a rage before 'killing' her. This means the police could LITERALLY pull cell phone data from when the cell phone pinged off the cell towers to see that Luther was no where near the house at the time of the call making it LITERALLY impossible for him to have killed her. Like yea I get that his fingerprints were all over her body and blood but it's physically impossible...
Also the sketch of Ian from the hotel is nearly identical to him so like>??????
Edit: Luther also sends a phone message to one of the other officers telling them to send units to Zoe's place because *he thinks Ian is going to hurt her* AND THEY CAN PINPOINT THAT CALL TOO TO DETERMINE HE WAS TOO FAR TO HAVE BEEN THERE?!?

Throughout the entire series she genuinely never lies to him and they seem ti have a odd but honest relationship of sorts.

Did he really believe she wouldn’t find out? I means it’s Alice! And I’m curious do you think she turned on him purely because he lied or because she realised he would never change or was it because she finally accepted he would never accept how he felt for her?

It’s seems like Alice throughout the series was upfront and honest with him about her intentions for him, but he always danced the line of being not sure with Alice.

Just curious what everyone’s opinions are, I started watching Luther initially just for a crime drama but fell in love with the dynamic between the two. I genuinely feel like the writers have destroyed any chance of them having a friendship never mind relationship in the future ( I read that the show creator has since came out and said Alice isn’t dead so there’s potential for her to come back in a future film)

The character arcs? The main interconnected story? The villains?

One second he's saving her from the freezer, the next she's shooting him and screaming that he doesn't love her? Did I miss something important?

Watching this show makes me angry. Genuinely. How many times has a killer attacked a person with other people watching and the bystanders do NOTHING?! Seriously? Your husband/wife/friend/mom/dad are getting attacked and the characters stand there and scream.

The episode with the guy that went into the office building FULL of people and not one of them did anything about it - they just let someone else get mercilessly beaten to death. And the family in season 4 episode 2. While the dad is being attacked, 3 other adults just stand there and somehow get kidnapped by some scrawny psychopath?

Am I the only one who feels this rage at this ridiculous bystander effect?

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I am intrigued by the general atmosphere of the series, I have never visited England and I wonder how real the atmosphere of the city is reproduced in the series.

I think Luther is tied to the dynamics of the city, or in a way to England. When he leaves the country it is hard to assume that he has full control of the situation. Because unlike Jason Borne or Ethan Hawke his training or job is as a police detective, without belittling the position I speak in terms of fictional character development.

Now, his mental universe, his anxieties, moral duality is the key to Luther's character, Neil Cross explores horrendous crimes and makes us take sides in making decisions to solve them. His studies in theology make me think that in this series he places us not only as a spectator but in a judge's point of view alongside God.

I have never been a fan of true crime podcasts because they exploit our primal morbid curiosity about the suffering of others, and forgive my ignorance but I wonder if in England there is a general popular tradition of mythology surrounding serial killers, the bizarre, etc. I know that this curiosity is part of the human condition, which is simply explored by literary or audiovisual works and that in the end makes us appreciate how imperfect we are as societies and how vulnerable we are to the evil of certain individuals or systems. How fragile our lives are when the people we love are at risk or we simply lose them.

What is the moral thread that we will maintain without falling into chaos and anarchy? What is the ideal justice that we will defend in the face of the absurdity of life and its difficulties?

The music and previews between chapters have been marked in my mind, they are like snapshots of reality that we all have and one day will be exposed in the book of life according to the Christian tradition.

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got around to rewatching the movie and made me think about the next projects lined up in the series (if any). does anyody know the next plans with Luther or if there are any plans at all?

thanks

Does have anybody know of any songs that are similar to the intro of Luther? Similar vibe and mood.

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I was just watching Extraction 2 starring Chris Hemsworth and i started thinking what if they later declare Idris Elba as Luther, (I know he's not Luther but it's just a theory for discussion, wouldn't that be great).

I mean in Luther: The Fallen Sun he was hired by MI5. Maybe they have to do some tasks where they can't interfere as MI5 and looking for some mercenary for hire, and he was suggested by Mia, and after the Extraction 2 operation, they will know his qualifications personally.

In season 1, episode 4 when Madsen wakes up, Luther goes to Alice Morgan to basically break up with her, telling her that he can't see her, talk to her, not while "this" (the Madsen inquiry) is hanging over him because he'll be under surveillance.

I didn't think much of it the first time I watched the show, but watching it back... Luther goaded Alice Morgan into killing Madsen, didn't he? He knows she can't take rejection well because she's a malignant narcissist, and he even tells her exactly what the root of the problem is, which is another person, plus he knows she's murdered her parents and got away with it because she commits perfect crimes...

I personally believe that she isn't dead because, well, it's Alice obviously. But I'm just curious of what other people think? ❤️

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Can anyone explain what happened end of s1 beginning of s2 with Alice.

Why is she in jail? Was it for shooting the bent copper, or has been caught for the murders? Why when she was helping to defend Luther has she been arrested?

I’m surprised she didn’t run away and Luther just blagged it was self defence, with the other guy as his witness? Thanks

Does anyone also feel like the final episode was a complete robbery? I've noticed some childish plot development in Luther here and there, but the finale had all of it. It was the definition of "I don't know how to end it, so I'ma mash everything up".

George Cornelius suddenly whips out some bisexual hitman out of nowhere, whilst the fetish killer Jeremy keeps running around killing people randomly. Benny's death felt unnecessary, and DS Halliday's even MORE unnecessary in the end.

The writers basically destroyed the whole of the last two seasons' plot by having John aiming a gun to George's head and then suddenly, stupidly deciding to hand it over to him. Wow, what an emotional turn it took, I'm in tears. After they kill the hitman, Palmer, George takes a picture of him standing next to Palmer's dead body with a gun, literally tells him he's got something he can blackmail him with, but our careless boy Luther just walks off like a badass.

And it just kept getting worse.

What was all this nonsense that Alice came up with in the end? What's this sudden "lovers to enemies" bullshit? Again, as with the George and Luther situation, Alice allegedly came to kill Luther now, but instead, drops DS Halliday with a perfect headshot for no apparent reason and shoots John in his arm. Oh, now Schenk rolls in with the cop squad and they both hide behind some cars unnoticeably. After they pass, Alice comes out whistling like a guilty cartoon character and guess what? Alice isn't here to kill injured Luther anymore! Now John is chasing her by limping, while Alice starts running at turtle speed to let our injured John keep up with her. Alice keeps wasting bullets while John super-dramatically shouts: "How many more bullets, Alice?" Then they do a bunch of boring tackling until Alice falls over 7 feet height to death.

Now you tell me, what an actual Bugs Bunny live action episode did I just watch? Did they not pay the production team for the last episode? Did all of the writers and directors sustain a joint lobotomy session a day before shooting? I have questions but no answers.

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I'll preface this by saying that I watched the series several years ago and am unsure I ever finished it. As series updates were sporadic, I discontinued watching but have plans to return to it soon.

A further preface that my question is a slightly offbeat one - maybe I just have problems and am injecting something into the show that isn't there.

Am I crazy for detecting some degree of sensual tension in the relationship between Jenny and Luther? I realize that she's much younger and possibly even underage, and I'm not implying that there was an actual sexual relationship or even close to one. But from my view, Jenny kind of seemed interested in Luther sexually and I felt that at the very least Luther was aware of this. My perception is that he was uncomfortable with it and primarily just found her a bit annoying and wanted to keep her safe. But, I also felt that there was a small portion of this that might have been discomfort with himself because at times he might have reciprocated this attraction or interest, despite the age gap and her vulnerable position. Almost like Luther felt wrong for acknowledging that she was a sexually viable person with agency because he felt she was too young? Perhaps what I'm detecting is just due to the fact that much of her storyline made sexual topics and her sexual activity unavoidable as a topic of discussion? I'm unsure.

Thoughts? If I'm totally off base that's fine - it's just always stayed in my mind!

Does anyone know anything about the house at the end? It's beautiful! Is it real? If it is what's the history? I want to learn anything about it I can.

Zoe’s death was almost a Ned Stark moment for me. Her “mistake” was falling in love with a cop and said cop trusting the wrong person. And here’s Alice, like an avenging angel/demon. Alice who actually liked and respected Zoe. I couldn’t find the scene on YouTube.

S1. I’m finding that psychopath Alice just bloody annoying. I’m sorry she has a through line and guess she’ll be in every episode of Season 1. Ugh. I hope she meets a terrible end.

Hi,

so quick Q: why does Luther not go the official way to protect his wife? why not report that crazy woman who put pin to his wife's ear?

I don't understand :S

It's not like that woman (forgot her name) has anything on him actually. In fact she should be arrested for threatning him and his wife no?

Also, why did he throw the evidence of the plastic gun away?

I'm a bit lost and don't want to continue until I resolve these things lest things get worse haha

thanks a lot

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