The start of season three should have been the first Luther film. Such incredible, relatable storyline and just amazing episodes.

DCI Raine is by far the worst foil character they've ever had. What a waste of a talented actress.

Was about to start a rewatch, but the very first episode isn't there, it's goes from episode 2 onwards, was something wrong with the first episode?

Sorry for being late to the party. This show is 🤌. I can't put it down. Great acting by just about every actor in the show. I'm still on season 1 episode 4.

I recall there being a commercial for Luther or a parody that includes Idris, where he's on a his way home and gets a call from the department but he says he can't help now, he's busy. He finally gets home to visit his family, and everyone's dressed like him in the same coat and talking the same way. I've tried searching Reddit and YouTube but can't find it anywhere and am not sure if I'm dreaming it up or not.

I wanted to check it out because Idris Elba and Ruth Wilson are great actors. And I like detective/cop shows. Bosch...The Bureau...even the recent Sugar (although the SciFi angle was unnecessary, IMO)

But this show is rubbing me the wrong way.

First of all, the way they wrote Luther's character. He has so little self control that he explodes and pounds through doors and smashes windows at work when he looses his temper... Really? They had to not just give him a temper but make him a mad man? A man child?

The episode before somehow a former soldier knocks him bloody with ease and has him pushed up against the wall and Luther cannot disarm this guy? The guy is literally face to face and he cannot overcome him? Gimme a break..

And now, they kill off Zoe. Are you kidding me? WHY?

It is jumping the shark. It is totally unnecessary and lazy writing in my opinion. Yeah, they were setting him up to take the fall for something but they couldn't even wait until the end of the 1st season?

Gimmicky. Is there any reason at all to continue this series? I'm not impressed.

Not only all of this, but ID's physicality -- actors will know what I'm talking about -- as he walks? Barges? Bangs? around with an exaggerated aggressive walk...it's over the top..

NO ONE WALKS LIKE THAT.

Did the creator force that walk on him? IE is too good to think that physicality was a good idea.

On Season 1 Episode 6, and WOW! This show is amazing! I’m so excited to have joined this journey, can’t wait to see what comes. This is the feeling I had like a year ago when I discovered HBO’s Rome, when you find a show a long time after it releases and it’s fire.

How is the show? Thinking about watching it for the first time.

Wanted something familiar I didn’t need to think about last week after a rough day at work and I’ll never understand what happened after season 3. 4 is a train wreck, 5 is a whack job, and the movie is an abomination. Someone crucial to the first 3 seasons being a masterpiece must’ve left or something

I'm literally dying to find people to talk about this show to. And I'm down to make one if anyone is down with joining.

I enjoy Tom Marwood as a villain in Luther, even though he's not really a villain until he starts targeting John's loved ones. I feel like with Alice returning in season 3, Tom gets a bit overlooked, and I wish his arc was a bit longer, and ended in a less humiliating way. He really seemed like an interesting mirrored reflection of what Luther could've turned into when he lost Zoey, and I truly think the actor did a tremendous job with the little time he was given.

That's always been my problem with the show, outside of your main cast, and typical reoccurring characters, you don't really see a lot of the stellar, high-potential antagonists return. I'd say Alice counts, but she really turns more into an alley until the final season. I think characters like Marwood could've used a tad more time to flourish, like Alice. To be fair though, Neil has a big issue with fobbing off likable allies and antags: (ex: Rose, Jenny, Grey) Like, do the actors just not like coming back? Feels like Mark and Alice are the only characters that don't disappear.

Apparently there's a Luther Book and Comic that exists out there. Does anyone know the name of them? I'd love to buy them and given them a read.

I just finished watching the show and plan to watch the movie next. Don’t get me wrong, I enjoyed the show. But didn’t all the choices he made and the secrets he kept lead to all his co-workers deaths? For example, his helping and secretly hanging out with Alice led to Catherine’s death. His secret dealings with Cornelius led to Benny’s death. He didn’t tell his boss that Ian shot Sugarman and continued to try to cover for him and this led to his ex-wife’s death. Ripley died because he sent him after Marwood on his own while he stayed to save the hanging pedophile. I mean wouldn’t they all have been better off if they’d never met Luther? This is a somewhat tongue in cheek question. Mary, Mark, and Erin also almost died due to being in Luther’s orbit.

Recently binge watched "Luther" and the movie "Fallen Sun." Excellent series, and can't believe I had never heard of it before. So what's next after the movie? Is there much likely of a sequel? Or have we seen the last of John Luther?

Does anyone else think they jumped to "Luther killed Zoe" *reaaaaally* quickly? First off, Zoe calls Luther right before she dies, and Ian had plenty of time (before Luther got there) to stage the house as if Luther went into a rage before 'killing' her. This means the police could LITERALLY pull cell phone data from when the cell phone pinged off the cell towers to see that Luther was no where near the house at the time of the call making it LITERALLY impossible for him to have killed her. Like yea I get that his fingerprints were all over her body and blood but it's physically impossible...
Also the sketch of Ian from the hotel is nearly identical to him so like>??????
Edit: Luther also sends a phone message to one of the other officers telling them to send units to Zoe's place because *he thinks Ian is going to hurt her* AND THEY CAN PINPOINT THAT CALL TOO TO DETERMINE HE WAS TOO FAR TO HAVE BEEN THERE?!?

Throughout the entire series she genuinely never lies to him and they seem ti have a odd but honest relationship of sorts.

Did he really believe she wouldn’t find out? I means it’s Alice! And I’m curious do you think she turned on him purely because he lied or because she realised he would never change or was it because she finally accepted he would never accept how he felt for her?

It’s seems like Alice throughout the series was upfront and honest with him about her intentions for him, but he always danced the line of being not sure with Alice.

Just curious what everyone’s opinions are, I started watching Luther initially just for a crime drama but fell in love with the dynamic between the two. I genuinely feel like the writers have destroyed any chance of them having a friendship never mind relationship in the future ( I read that the show creator has since came out and said Alice isn’t dead so there’s potential for her to come back in a future film)

The character arcs? The main interconnected story? The villains?

One second he's saving her from the freezer, the next she's shooting him and screaming that he doesn't love her? Did I miss something important?

Watching this show makes me angry. Genuinely. How many times has a killer attacked a person with other people watching and the bystanders do NOTHING?! Seriously? Your husband/wife/friend/mom/dad are getting attacked and the characters stand there and scream.

The episode with the guy that went into the office building FULL of people and not one of them did anything about it - they just let someone else get mercilessly beaten to death. And the family in season 4 episode 2. While the dad is being attacked, 3 other adults just stand there and somehow get kidnapped by some scrawny psychopath?

Am I the only one who feels this rage at this ridiculous bystander effect?

I have a body that I would like to get a clear nitrocellulose coat over it can anyone recommend me an applicator that's legitimate so I can send it off and get it done by a professional

I am intrigued by the general atmosphere of the series, I have never visited England and I wonder how real the atmosphere of the city is reproduced in the series.

I think Luther is tied to the dynamics of the city, or in a way to England. When he leaves the country it is hard to assume that he has full control of the situation. Because unlike Jason Borne or Ethan Hawke his training or job is as a police detective, without belittling the position I speak in terms of fictional character development.

Now, his mental universe, his anxieties, moral duality is the key to Luther's character, Neil Cross explores horrendous crimes and makes us take sides in making decisions to solve them. His studies in theology make me think that in this series he places us not only as a spectator but in a judge's point of view alongside God.

I have never been a fan of true crime podcasts because they exploit our primal morbid curiosity about the suffering of others, and forgive my ignorance but I wonder if in England there is a general popular tradition of mythology surrounding serial killers, the bizarre, etc. I know that this curiosity is part of the human condition, which is simply explored by literary or audiovisual works and that in the end makes us appreciate how imperfect we are as societies and how vulnerable we are to the evil of certain individuals or systems. How fragile our lives are when the people we love are at risk or we simply lose them.

What is the moral thread that we will maintain without falling into chaos and anarchy? What is the ideal justice that we will defend in the face of the absurdity of life and its difficulties?

The music and previews between chapters have been marked in my mind, they are like snapshots of reality that we all have and one day will be exposed in the book of life according to the Christian tradition.

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got around to rewatching the movie and made me think about the next projects lined up in the series (if any). does anyody know the next plans with Luther or if there are any plans at all?

thanks

Does have anybody know of any songs that are similar to the intro of Luther? Similar vibe and mood.

Thanks

I was just watching Extraction 2 starring Chris Hemsworth and i started thinking what if they later declare Idris Elba as Luther, (I know he's not Luther but it's just a theory for discussion, wouldn't that be great).

I mean in Luther: The Fallen Sun he was hired by MI5. Maybe they have to do some tasks where they can't interfere as MI5 and looking for some mercenary for hire, and he was suggested by Mia, and after the Extraction 2 operation, they will know his qualifications personally.

In season 1, episode 4 when Madsen wakes up, Luther goes to Alice Morgan to basically break up with her, telling her that he can't see her, talk to her, not while "this" (the Madsen inquiry) is hanging over him because he'll be under surveillance.

I didn't think much of it the first time I watched the show, but watching it back... Luther goaded Alice Morgan into killing Madsen, didn't he? He knows she can't take rejection well because she's a malignant narcissist, and he even tells her exactly what the root of the problem is, which is another person, plus he knows she's murdered her parents and got away with it because she commits perfect crimes...