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What is a chiz? (Idk if how's it's filmed but they keep talking about him in season 6)
Was lisa mcqueen dragged into the OCG as ide assume she wouldn't get witness protection then?
And also Jo in season 6 oh my word she's stunning I've now gone onto watch other programs w Kelly in and she's just stunning 😍
Vicky McClure and Martin Compston stars in the crime drama Five Daughters, based on real events. Vicky and Martin plays next of kin to the murder victims, i.e. supporting roles. Both of them does a very good job. There has been many British based on real events dramas. The actors in all those dramas I’ve seen does a good job, they play the characters with such depth and intensity. It’s like they feel it’s important to give a voice to the victims and their next of kin. Recommended to all who are excited to see Vicky and Martin in other roles. Five Daughters is on Britbox and Prime, among other streaming services.
I absolutely adored John's storyline, it was the most tense I've been watching TV in a looooong time. The resolution for it was tragic but perfect too. I loved how the show didn't try and tell you whether John was being moral either, it just lets you as a viewer decide for yourself through the viewpoint of Steve. Speaking of Steve, hands down one of his best arcs in the series, rivalled maybe only by season 2. When he disobeyed Hastings I felt such a rush of emotions. And I also loved the deep dive into Hastings' morality, and the questioning of his integrity. Hastings is actually fairly sus in a lot of the series prior to season 5, but people tend to ignore it because of how charming he is. I really enjoyed exploring that.
I was a bit doubtful of season 4 when it first started, it all seemed a little over-the-top. These fears quickly waned as the season progressed though. This is my favourite take on a corrupt cop in any season, watching her be thrust into the world of lies and deception, as we see her many clever tricks and accidental misses, was super investing. It really had me guessing how AC-12 would catch her. This season also has my favourite exchange in the whole series: "You've ruined my life!" "What? No... we save lives." Perfectly sums up the show's messaging surrounding police incompetence, ignorance and corruption.
Lindsey Denton. She absolutely makes this season and carries is all the way. Loved her character and her story. Steve was great too, really liked the reveal of his deception at the end. This season definately raised my expectations for future seasons, and it's placement is only this far down because seasons 4 and 5 are so perfect to me.
This season's great and all, but honestly? I just don't like Dot. He kinda took me out of the season, and I didn't particularly like Steve and Kate's antagonism towards each other either. The ending is of course brilliant, and as a whole the season is still extremely solid, but I just don't like it quite as much as others.
It's just dreary. The show has always had a depressing edge to it, but there were usually little glimors of joy. This mostly came from Steve and Kate's relationship, so the choice to have the characters so isolated from each other definately lowered this season for me. I found myself tired and bored watching this season more than any other. It still had its moments though, and a strong start in my opinion. The ending reveal of H sucked though, I am a firm believer that it should have been a reverse-twist where H actually WAS Hastings.
This season had great moments, a great story, interesting characters, important explorations of morality... but oh God the camera. The cinematography is just awful, I genuinely couldn't handle it. EVERYTHING is shaky-cam and I swear that every third shot it a dramatic zoom in. Terrible. I couldn't enjoy anything I was watching because the cinematography took me out of it that much. Maybe ranking Season 1 this low just because of the camera is petty, but I seriously couldn't handle it. Just hold it still for god's sake!
Nigel Morton being H would be the best twist ever.
On the surface, an old bent-ish copper scamming disability benefits. Been a DC his whole career (supposedly). The top brass think he's an old cripple. Right at the bottom of the rung. Nobody would suspect a thing.
If we think about it, there are a number of signs he's far more wily than it seems.
Nige right hooking Kate's temple with his cane
Season 1
- Realised Kate was undercover before anyone else
- Assaulted her twice with impunity (first an uppercut with his cane, then phlegming on her head)
- Part of Tony Gates's corrupt squad
- Assaults Steve with impunity
Season 2
- Somehow knew everything about Dryden's speeding fiasco
- Knew that Dryden 'likes them young'
- Says he got it from DC Jeremy Cole in Vice (even though Nige was in Armed Robbery)
- Goes along with Dot's lies about Cole being the Caddy for no reason
2nd meeting with Dot
- Baits Dot into chasing after him, whilst slipping into his vehicle, and then picks up his burner phone proving he is in with the OCG
- Checks the phone and remarks about 'lots of interesting numbers'... was he bluffing, or did he know who they were?
Season 3
- Gets a massive office in Crime Audit despite being a DC
- Takes down Dot at the very end
- Retires on full pension and disability benefits, in a giant property
I can imagine old Nige pulling the strings of the OCG from his mansion.
Would be a way better ending to see AC-12 raid Nige's house and find out he was actually the criminal mastermind of the entire OCG from his bedroom.
I started watching the show all the way through again. And I totally forgot about Georgina getting thrown out the window. It might not be the most intense thing thats ever been on television. But man, its jarring every time. When Steve and her run into the hospital, I was like, "Oooooooh no. Its the window thing." For me its the worst way anyone died on the show because its so out of left field.
he spells it definately in season 5 talking to corbit he is literally h xoxo season 7 I don't need you u bent bastard
Hate the way she speaks and that smile is so annoying 😭 it was so satisfying watching her get proven wrong at the end of season 5
Who is the main character in the Show
Yesterday I finished binge watching S1 for the first time (I loved it). Currently on S2E2 and Hastings repeats the words said to Denton in the toilet. Wonder if it was planned or just a coincidence. Looking forward to finding out
Then in an interview with Times Radio this week Dunbar came the closest yet to confirming a return. “All the signals and everything is [positive] but until the script hits the desk, you can’t be 100 per cent sure,” he said.
We've analysed what a new series of Line of Duty could look like here
Which unbent bastard's post-LoC work do you like the most?
Martin Compston reunites with Line of Duty pal in Waitrose Christmas advert as fans say 'this is so iconic' https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/tv/13825099/martin-compston-vicky-mcclure-waitrose-line-of-duty?utm_source=native_share&utm_medium=sharebar_native&utm_campaign=sharebaramp
Unpopular opinion, I know. Long post but the short of it: if the H/4th man drama wasn't forced in there and there was a more organic deduction that, barring small fish like Prasad and Trantor, AC-12 had narrowed the bent network down to the last active player, Buckell, the latter part of the show would be better for it.
Buckells is the last man standing from Thurwell's original bent squad of coppers, who are criminals in bed with the organized criminals, as distinct from the institutionally corrupt, unethical, incompetent cops that formed the backdrop allowing the organized criminal cops to flourish.
Now firstly, controlled coppers rather than bent ones would be Hari Bains, not Jo who was selected to be a copper at 16, therefore becoming a copper specifically to aid crime. Jo confesses to this, alongside a family connection to a mob boss and bent CSU Fairbank, yet she gets witpro whilst Hari rots in prison.
But the point is that Jo is further situated than Dot as a caddy, and it beggars belief he wasn't aware of a DCI but he was in the loop of an ACC being corrupt. AC-12 maintained Dot included himself in the 4 caddies he signalled with Morse code, which isn't a logical surmise—he'd surely be listing exclusive of himself, which he could then be signalling Jo, but why just Jo, Hilton, Gill, Buckells?
The likes of Cole and Prasad (a.k.a. Vice Squad) show there are other actively criminal (not institutionally corrupt) coppers that Dot could have revealed. He suppressed the list revealing the likes of Fairbank, and ideally would have known about Thurwell's bent squad if he was so close to Hunter. Buckells says the mantle passed from Thurwell and Fairbank, to Cottan and Hilton, to Buckells.
Apparently someone had Thurwell killed overseas (a stooge, so not actively criminal), and Hilton wasn't even jailed yet when he was killed. As to why Cottan ever gave testimony, I suspect the OCG gunman expressly shot him rather than Kate (what would be the point to that) should the getaway prove futile, or they were going to off him the same way as Hilton anyway.
The only sensible part of Dot's testimony is blinking for Gill (G) or Hilton (H), and the hand movements are dying spasms, because 4 caddies is just an arbitrary confession that takes more dying effort to divulge than just speaking. Hilton's brainiac idea was to turn the H notion back on Hastings to discredit AC-12, continued by Gill with Corbett in S5.
Essentially, without evidence, because Hilton had been killed Dot would be grassing on a puppet master higher than Hilton who must be H, not realizing that if Hunter would be killed by criminal elements, so would Hilton.
At some point the myth of H crossed into the OCG parlance, ergo Lisa McQueen believed Buckells on the computer was H, and that Hastings in person was that same H. No one seems to know why H would exist in the OCG purview if it came from Hilton throwing it on Hastings, and it was only supposed to be a first letter of a name too, not a codename. That means all this insane supposition comes from H being 4 dots in Morse Code.
On a second watch of S6 it is a satisfying half-ending in that it could be conclusive or be open to continue, as AC-12 is at its weakest in terms of investigation, but the criminal strength of the OCGs and the police ring is also at its most exposed. All that is left is the institutional corruption led by Osborne, covering up malfeasance of cops on duty.
Who should star as the new Lennie James/Daniel Mays/Keeley Hawes/Thandiwe Newton/Stephen Graham/Kelly MacDonald? And co stars Gina McKee, Jason Watkins, Anna Maxwell Martin etc?
I would love to see Paapa Essiedu in any role (though I can’t see him as total bad cop), Nabhaan Rizwan, Bel Powley, Paddy Considine (yes they were all in Informer and that was amazing); Jayde Adams, Asim Chaudhry - his role in Industry is transformative.
What are your thoughts?
Edit: I meant to add Erin Doherty to the above list
Hopefully that's a suitably vague title.
There's that scene (S4? S5?) where we see Hastings in his hotel room, sitting on his bed, and then his laptop pings with an encrypted messaging app.
Yes yes, we know Hastings was looking at porn, the wee beggar, Jesus Mary Joseph... But that one 5 second scene was a little different. It was the same messaging service used by the OCG.
I may have missed an explanation, so sorry if this is a wasted post.
Okay so did I miss out on something? Cause season 5 it clearly showed hasting instructing them about what to do.? How come he's not their leader and why season 6 completely let him off the hook?
It also really fails for me on some ways, such as...
The whole thing feels COVID-compromised, which many other shows managed to avoid (either through pausing or other measures). Scenes seem empty, there's rarely more than a few people together, the writing feels... Rushed? Or maybe that it had to bend around real world issues?
The interview with DCI Davison... It's kinda fun to see 20 minutes of "No comment" along with some revelations, but a little frustrating.
The inciting incident, the reporter murder... By never seeing the circumstances around it, the big mystery of the series just never kicks into life. You (well, I) just feel a bit cold to it. Every other season got us engaged with the antagonists / victims.
Eye Ryan Pilkington tried to kill Kate, the two of them going on the run... Makes so little sense. Why did they act like the whole police force was going to gun them down? Why did they try to pretend it was Davison who took the shot? Kate shot in self defence at a stand-off against someone who was now known to be OCG, and Kate had been lured there. Why was she acting like "Steve's in on it too?". It felt like melodrama for melodrama's sake.
The slightly dull Davison interrogation scene is mimicked in the opening episode when is with Terry (with Downs), where it's basically 20 minutes of "are you okay to continue?".
Now I don't need LoD to get "bigger" each season. I kinda like the choices, and I like seeing how this (fictionalized) policing works. So I kinda liked seeing different flavours of the interview scenes, but having them all like that just put the breaks on the series. Especially with distracting red herrings like "Here's James Nesbitt in Spain".
That said, after seeing it the first time, the second time round the Huckells reveal doesn't seem so bad. The idea of manipulation disguised as incompetence, with someone falling up the ladder of command is not a bad one. And the second time round, it works better. It holds together better and the theme plays out better, rather than feeling a bit of a damp squib.
It's the most mundane series, definitely lacks the writing polish - or production issues maybe getting in the way, but I did enjoy it more second time round.
Although that final CGI(?) shot of Kate, Steve and Hastings in the elevator... It looks like something out of Jurassic World. Maybe a COVID restriction as well? Either way, ending there, and with no resolution for the three... I get that they probably did it to keep all options on the table, but still it was an underwhelming bow.
I do hope a series 7 happens.
Anyway, just wanted to see if anyone had takes about series 6 after a second time around with some distance.
A seventh series of BBC monster hit drama Line Of Duty is reportedly in development, with The Sun newspaper reporting that the stars have met with creator Jed Mercurio with the aim of filming a new series.
https://www.tvzoneuk.com/post/lineofduty-series7-development-rep1
Simple a beer (or whatever piss-water you young fellas like) with any character in the show?
And for all you horny readers, this isn't an excuse to flirt and try to get into someone's pants, just a drink to chat the breeze with - either about any of the cases or just in general because you think they'd be fun.
You can pick anyone alive or dead, good or bad, and at any point in the show, or just in general.
My easy choice is Hastings. Either to dig into war stories or take his mind off work. And the guy often seems like he needs a hug.
Three main actors all together right now (per Instagram) and Vicky has a Kate Flemingish haircut??????????
There is one part in I THINK season 1 or 2 where they are in a Jag XJ (I think) and then the car switches and is all of a sudden morphed into a Vauxhall Insignia. Anyone else noticed this?? They also do it in Blue Lights where the main characters car switches between an Audi A3 and a Skoda (assuming Fabia), then later on an Insignia turns into a Skoda Octavia (think it’s an Octavia from memory?) Any other vehicle inconsistencies we have noticed? Or am I just the loser that notices this nonsense? 😂
Edit: spelling
Does anyone have any good Tony gates GIFs they could share?
Love that fella, made me laugh every time he was on screen. Wonderful performance.
Specifically would like a "I was never bent" gif.