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Gun-ownership through a pro-gun liberal / leftist lens.


Mission Statement:

Gun ownership through a pro-gun liberal lens.

This is a place for liberal gun-owners who want to discuss gun ownership absent the "noise" of most right-leaning pro-gun forums.

"Liberal" here is "left-of-center", in US political terms. Liberal/Leftist/Progressive. Those who would identify as Democrats, Progressives, Socialists, &c. This does not mean "classical liberal" or right-leaning libertarians.


Sub Rules:

See here.


Friends:

- r/blackgunowners
- r/gundeals
- r/guns
- r/InStockAmmo
- r/LatinoRA
- r/leftistveterans
- r/pinkpistols
- r/SocialistRA


Related Websites/Blogs:

- Black Gun Owners Association
- Huey P. Newton Gun Club
- Liberal Gun Club
- National African-American Gun Association
- Open Source Defense
- Operation Blazing Sword
- Pink Pistols
- Red Neck Revolt

We are not affiliated with liberalgunowners.org


Interesting Reading:

- The Rifle on the Wall: A Left Argument for Gun Rights
- 538 on Americans misunderstanding gun violence and policy solutions
- The New York Times: The Assault Weapons Myth
- NY Magazine: There Is No ‘Epidemic of Mass School Shootings’
- Salon: Gun control’s racist reality: The liberal argument against giving police more power

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Very on the fence about buying AR, help sway me one way or another?

Hello fellow humans,

I have been a gun owner for about a year and half now and up until this point, I’ve bought and sold a couple of different handguns and I’ve had one shotgun during that time which I sold because there’s not many places here locally to shoot it unless you want to shoot strictly buckshot or slugs.

I’ve seen the sentiment on this sub that most folks should get an AR since they are more likely to be banned, restricted, etc.; but I just haven’t been able to bring myself to get one since I live in an apartment - so a smaller space - the ammo is about double the price from the 9mm that I have for my handgun, and the platform itself is more expensive to get into. I’m considering maybe just getting another handgun so I can conceal carry and still use it for home defense if needed.

I just don’t see a current or future need for an AR for myself. I know a handgun is always going to have a smaller capacity, less range, less configurations, but would I need the range or capacity in any realistic situation? Even in home defense, a full size handgun would have 15+ rounds.

Anyway, those are my thoughts. I’m open to critiques, statistics, etc, I just want someone to know my current situation and give some input. Thank you all again!

18 Comments
2024/12/03
17:45 UTC

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Convince me to buy or not buy a gun as a new gun owner.

Been mulling over this for the past 5 years. I am not a gun owner, but have always had an interest in buying one as a protective measure. So far I've always managed to eventually convince myself that I don't need a gun, but now that I have a newborn baby girl, this sentiment has gotten stronger. The only thing that's making me hesitant are two reasons:

  1. My wife is afraid of the idea of having a gun in our home. Guns are, after all, a deadly weapon designed to kill something or someone whether it's in self-defence or not. My wife is a very peaceful person who doesn't like hurting or killing anything.

  2. Statistically speaking, infants/children in gunowning house has higher liklihood of sustaining deadly injury. In fact, unintentional injuries due to firearm is the fourth leading cause of death in children. Granted, these cases are more likely due to improper storage and/or not properly handling the gun, but the numbers are still there.

Bottom line is, I personally would like to get a gun. There are a lot of mentally unstable drivers on the road where I live, and with the new president elect, I see some sort of civil unrest happening in the near future; I want to be able to protect my wife and baby in these situations if I have to. I've been eyeing a glock 19, a HK vp9, and a couple of other options. I know buying a gun is a big decision, a decision that shouldn't be made on my own. I tried bringing it up to my wife a few times, and she always shys away from the idea and changes the topic. Not sure what to do at this point.

14 Comments
2024/12/03
17:32 UTC

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AR irons and optics for a newbie

Hi all. I’ve read lots of posts and articles and it’s just too much rabbit hole and opinion, so I hope you will be kind. My first AR is in the mail and I’m shopping for iron sights and a red dot. The red dot will be fun, but I also grew up shooting old bolt action rifles through irons only, and that is fun for me and just feels like shooting nostalgia. I’d like to do some irons-only shooting with the AR as well as the red dot.

Would it be insane to take a red dot sight on and off in the same shooting session so I can practice with irons too? What would be a good set of irons to accommodate what I’m trying to do? I found a good deal on some MagPul Gen IIIs, but it seems like the physical red dot sight would be in the way of flipping up the rear sight. I’ve read about co-witnessing, but I like the big, naked unobstructed target view of irons. I’ll set up co-witness if that is what’s most practical though.

Thanks for reading and please show mercy 😃🙏

4 Comments
2024/12/03
16:15 UTC

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Does anyone know why one can legally purchase an rifle at 18 but not a handgun in States like California

Had a typo in the title of my other post but now I’m more so asking does anyone know the logic behind this? Plus it’s plenty of semi automatics falling through legal loopholes. The overall approach seems a little flawed to me. I can vouch specifically for licensed retailers in the San Bernardino county area I personally at 19 have purchased a carbine model legally with just my hunting license and it’s fairly compact.

56 Comments
2024/12/03
16:21 UTC

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I like dogs, whiskey, and 2011s

I’ve been building my 2011 collection for some time now. I’ve tried several companies but nothing felt like an Atlas gunworks.

Pictured from top left to right:

-Atlas Erebus with Trijicon SRO (compensated)

-Atlas Titan Operator (ported)

-Atlas Artemis with Trijicon SRO (front heavy sight block)

-Atlas Apollo with Trijicon SRO (ported)

-Atlas NYX (my conceal carry sometimes) (iron sights)

-Atlas Hyperion (iron sights)

-Atlas Nemesis (iron sights and front heavy with a sight block)

Some shoot really fast, some shoot exceptionally accurate, and some are a mix. The slide length, ports, compensator, and sight blocks make each firearm unique. I prefer to keep the trigger ~ 2 pounds. All have short reset and I have double tapped unexpectedly before.

56 Comments
2024/12/03
15:57 UTC

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To those who work in a range part 2…

Happy freezing Tuesday morning (roads are frozen by me)… I need more drama

Yesterday I asked which handguns perform the worst after heavy usage but today, we are looking at 9mm ammo!

So, those who work at the range (or those who frequent it), what 9mm ammo brands have you seen the most malfunctions with? I’m talking about the ammo you won’t even let your enemy use

Then on the other side, what ammo has run beautifully for you?

Now of course certain guns like certain ammo better than others. I’m looking at an overall average rather than niche specific usage if that makes sense.

In short, just want more drama and I like reading the statistics haha.

Thanks yall stay warm!

35 Comments
2024/12/03
15:21 UTC

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Is there a a reasonably priced, current production 10mm CZ clone on the market?

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5 Comments
2024/12/03
15:14 UTC

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CZ 75 v. Jericho 941

So if memory serves the Jericho is a close copy of the 75, and while I'm absolutely a CZ fan boy (they just feel so good!), they don't make them in .45 anymore. Can anyone tell me if a Jericho feels nearly as good ergonomically as the 75? Because it will be a lot easier to order a 941 in .45 than it will be to track down the unicorn that is a 75B.

2 Comments
2024/12/03
15:04 UTC

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Some orange fuck got elected so I Black Friday

Smith & Wesson MP FPC

99 Comments
2024/12/03
14:15 UTC

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Springfield Armory XD mod 3?

Saw a sweet deal for an XD mod 3 at my LGS. Anybody ever had any issues w those before? I’m tempted to pick it up but idk if I trust $300 guns.

5 Comments
2024/12/03
13:26 UTC

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Looking for gift for my guy- I’m back!

I posted before looking for cleaning kit recs- turns out he has all the kits he needs. I really appreciate the tips I got from this sub though! Y’all are very kind and accommodating.

SO I have a better post now- I need some ideas for gear to go with his current things. His gear is - Glock 43x MOS, CZ SP-01, AR-15, Kimber 1911 Commander, AKM (Norinco) and a 10-22. The only holster he’d want is for the Kimber 1911 commander size.

My budget is around $300.

Thank you for any and all ideas! Again!

2 Comments
2024/12/03
03:10 UTC

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Range partners around North GA?

Want someone or preferably a group to train/shoot with around north east GA. It’s been hard as hell to find trustworthy community members in the south. The impending administration lit a fire under my ass to reach out and try to build connections. Edit: got a couple of messages that seemed a little confused about my intentions. My ideal goal would be to form a group of people who share common values. That group would hopefully come up with a reasonable schedule to meet at shooting ranges and network +socialize with each other. I may at times have access to a private range as well which would obviously be ideal.

5 Comments
2024/12/03
09:58 UTC

41

Black Friday finds

Just picked these two up during a black Friday sale. PCC in 9mm and a discount Anderson with a Sig Tango 1-6 LPVO. Hopefully I will get some range time this week.

1 Comment
2024/12/03
05:10 UTC

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EDC P365 acquired, pocket holstered, trigger swapped, safety reversed.

Initial thoughts:

  1. Shootable
  2. Getting rounds in the mags sucks at first
  3. Trigger swap is a real pita, but I'm getting better
  4. Pocket holster seems viable - anyone have experience with these or similar?
33 Comments
2024/12/03
03:39 UTC

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S&W M&P FPC- Thoughts?

I live in an AWB state so I am considering this PCC as I can't get a AR-15, and since I already own an M&P 2.0 the magazines will be interchangeable. Anyone have the FPC and can give me their opinion on it? Thanks!

18 Comments
2024/12/03
03:18 UTC

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Budget simple case for my first AR.

Looking for recommendations for a simple budget case for my first AR. It's a full 16", will have a prism sight atop it. Preferably one from scheels. Cheap is the name of the game. What do yall think?

26 Comments
2024/12/03
02:26 UTC

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Can someone please clarify what is going on with CZ pistols in California - are they off roster or just in a temporary sales suspension?

I'm trying to purchase a CZ 75 SP-01 and every store I've called said they are sold out and probably not getting any more.

Can I still buy online and have it shipped to a CA FFL? Or are they prohibited from selling them at this time?

13 Comments
2024/12/03
01:54 UTC

54

Flying with firearms

I have to fly to a different state for something work-related. Can anyone walk me through flying with a firearm? I've never been on a plane, so this is all new to me. I don't want to fly without personal protection, being a woman alone in an unfamiliar city in a male-dominated field. Any general tips for flying are also welcome because I am completely clueless about flying.

105 Comments
2024/12/03
01:51 UTC

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Sig P365XL

My local gun shop has a used Sig Sauer P365XL going for $110. This seems like a too good to be true price. What should I be looking for to figure out if this is a screaming deal or a lemon?

7 Comments
2024/12/03
01:33 UTC

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Building an AR, help!

Welp I did the thing today and drosed a lower receiver (Anderson, 40 bucks at sportsman's)

Trying to build it on a budget, thinking of getting the PSA blem freedom rifle build kit. Will have to get a CA compliant grip (looking at Sparrow dynamics), will have to modify the stock so it's fixed, and get a muzzle brake to replace the flash hider.. that's budget option #1

Second option would be to source the parts as they are on sale which would allow me to get everything just how I want it, but I'm having a hard time figuring out if I'll end up spending much more going that route. Any feedback appreciated.

9 Comments
2024/12/03
00:04 UTC

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PS90 questions

So to TLDR a very long story, a local gun store near me has a PS90 (and a DP12, and a tricked out used Beretta 92FS 😭), and I have the funds I could conceivably get it, but as I don't know anyone who has one, or anywhere that rents one, I am at a loss for who to ask.

Anyways:

  1. Where TF are the iron sights...? Or do I have to buy an optic? Because the rifle is pushing up against my budgetary limit, and the ammo is "gonna need to do some OT" territory. An optic makes it unfeasible.
  2. Being lefty, I like the ambi charging handle. I don't know where it ejects from, for instance. Would it be lefty friendly?
  3. My gf is getting into shooting, also, but is much more recoil sensitive than I am. How does the recoil compare to, say, an AK in 7.62x39?

Much obliged for your responses.

And yes, I probably will go pick up the Beretta, too. 😂

48 Comments
2024/12/02
22:53 UTC

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Sometimes you should tear it down and make sure she’s all clean and snug.

4 Comments
2024/12/02
22:02 UTC

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Holster and light recs for G19?

Bought my first pistol today, G19 MOS (definitely not my first gun though), and pick it up next week. Wait period in my state. I do not have a license for CCW, but plan to get it once I get some practice in. Probably not really going to carry once i get permitted to do so, but I want to have the option. Wanted to put a thousand or two rounds through it before taking the time and spending the money on the class.

With that out of the way, any good recommendations for lights and holsters? I've never carried before, and would definitely want to do it concealed, so i was thinking IWB or AIWB, but don't really know where to start. So many options with holsters.

Light i was just planning on a Streamlight TLR-7X or a TLR-7HLX. I'd probably run the HLX at half power to save on batteries anyway, which is why the regular TLR-7X is a contender.

Also open to recs for a dot, but i was planning on getting lower 1/3 night fision sights and a Holosun EPS Red 6

So all of you loonies who've tried every holster ever made, what ya got for me lol? Thanks much, in advance! Love this sub, btw.

Eta: for what it's worth, I'm a smaller dude (5'8" ~160 lbs) and may ultimately settle on a 43x MOS as a carry gun, but starting myself out with something bigger and more manageable to put my time in. I've shot my buddy's 43x, and liked it a lot, but figured I'd be better off with a 19 to get going.

12 Comments
2024/12/02
21:33 UTC

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What’s a good choice if you want to hit targets under 220 yards?

Subject says it all.

49 Comments
2024/12/02
21:23 UTC

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Aguila ammo 9mm

Has anyone got recent experience with Aguila ammo, ideally 9mm. Sentry Ammo has a good deal on it - cheapest brass I can find on Ammoseek but I’ve never heard of them.

Did a search here and didn’t find anything conclusive.

11 Comments
2024/12/02
21:17 UTC

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I kinda want one… Aero Precision Neon!

https://www.aeroprecisionusa.com/ar15-m5-neon-builder-sets

They had some great Black Friday sales, so I leaned in and have a full build M4E1 in multicam… now they drop this.

There is a LOT of resistance for me not to decide on an AR10 build in full blue and pink neon, slap some white furniture and have a transformative ;) 308!

25 Comments
2024/12/02
21:10 UTC

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Ammo choice makes a difference!

Both shot at 10yrds, both with a Shield Plus. On the left are 65gr ARX (copper/poly projectile) and the right are 124gr Target Hollow points.

The ARX rounds seem to always shoot to the left. They’re kind of a “hot rod” load so I wonder if they just don’t have time to stabilize properly in a short barrel. I think the tearing of the target is due to them also being a fluted projectile.

Granted they’ll get the job done at bad breath distances - but certainly not a “target” round. Oh well

Anyone else ever shoot or hand load ARX rounds?

51 Comments
2024/12/02
20:57 UTC

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What can I legally have?

I live in SW Washington state. I'm not very well informed about guns, but I'm in the process of educating and arming myself for the purpose of home defense. My initial plan was for 3 weapons: a pistol (a Sig 9mm is on order and should arrive soon), a rifle, and a small shotgun.

Ideally, the rifle and shotgun should be reliable and preferably semi-automatic, but I'm running into what is (and is not) legal to buy and own in Washington.

"Assault Rifles" are out, but what might be a reasonable choice instead? I've seen references to Ruger 10/22 and Mini-14 rifles, but I need to know what features they must have and which are forbidden. Barrel length and magazine size could be examples.

The shotgun may be in a similar situation - I'd like a 20 gauge with a magazine, and a "short" barrel, something like this: https://grabagun.com/firearms/shotguns/semi-automatic-shotguns/american-tactical-imports-bulldog-20-ga-16-barrel-3-chamber-5-rounds.html If this would be illegal, what can I buy that might serve the purpose?

I realize that I should maybe be talking to a gun store about all this, but I'd like to have some idea which direction I need to go in before engaging in that.

Thanks in advance for your help.

28 Comments
2024/12/02
20:33 UTC

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