Anyone notice in BCA/Fabrication that executives and managers are being hidden in new roles and or changing reporting structure to dotted instead of hard lined?

Seems to be in direct conflict from stated directive on layoffs. Will our new CEO crack down/terminate those driving this nonsense? To flatten an org the excessive management and executive levels must go.

Anyone know when we can expect the furlough repayment to go through?

Former Congressman and Fox News Host Sean Duffy has been nominated to become the next secretary of Transportation. Duffy hails from Wisconsin and appears more concerned with railroads than Airplanes. Wisconsin has little or no relationship with the Air Transportation Industry. This might be bad...or it might be good.

If you're like me, you realize the Strike was a temporary, though painful, hiccup. The REAL danger to Boeing comes from the FAA exercising so much oversight that the Company can't make money for the next 4-5 years. Without knowledge of the World Air Transportation system, Duffy might keep the pressure on Boeing until it is forced to declare Bankruptcy. OTOH, he might just ignore Boeing and let the FAA oversight fade away.

A bankruptcy filing would come after Congress refuses to lend money to the Company. The Street thinks Congress would avoid a collapse of the Air Travel system, but you never know with Politicians and their constituents. "Bail-out" is a dirty word these days.

How does this affect us? Its obvious that Chapter 7 bankruptcy would mean 100% layoffs. But removing FAA oversight restrictions would mean production rates could increase and those laid off now would be called back to work.

Let's hope the latter happens sooner than later.

I was told by an employee in a different org (manufacturing) when they were given their RIF notice they were also told they will be ineligible for rehire. I haven’t seen/heard anything along these lines. I’m wondering if this is true. I don’t have any reason to believe or disbelieve in any way, more just curious if this was a default or optional choice.

Why is the speea % so low? Only ~2.5% vs 10%. I know it is even lower than that for prof.
There are retentions just for this reason, to have layoffs be for the lowest represented performers (or youngest for the techs). I know that layoffs were going to hit skills  differently, but find it really hard to believe that speea represents a narrow selection of skill codes that were all deemed highly necessary. The only thing I could guess is that it may be related to recalls. Maybe the company doesn’t want to have to offer them jobs again once hiring starts up again? But I feel like that is pretty thin reasoning.

Anyone have insight behind that?

Edit/Clarification It seems like engineering elsewhere in the company took a more proportional hit, why not the PNW? Struggling BDS programs vs need to get 3+ planes certified and, eventually, make a new one?

I haven't found one yet, but If I do find a job do I still get severance pay from Boeing? How does that work? I am desperate, having 5 kids.. I'm thinking of taking a low paying job just to get by for now. But if it will stop my severance pay then I don't want to do it.
Ugh

If you have an HSA through HealthEquity, I advise you move it if you got a layoff or are leaving.

After the first month not working at Boeing, HealthEquity will start charging an admin fee against your account. The annoying thing is that they also will charge you a fee to close your account ($25). Personally, Boeing should really look into getting rid of HealthEquity, cause I'm assuming it cost them then to utilize HealthEquity at the end. I ended up switching to Fidelity HSA, which has lots of great benefits.

Hi All,

Is anyone scheduled for orientation on December 6th? I know it is a strange time to be entering the company as a new hire but I am looking forward to my new role and hope I can ride out all the instability that is currently shrouding over the business.

In previous layoffs, employees had to either move their "VIP" 401K to an external source or another employer within 6 months, or would take a lump sum and have to pay the taxes on it. Since the company moved everything to Fidelity, does that still apply? Or does an employee 401K simply have the Boeing company named dropped and it automatically becomes a Fidelity account? My friend can't seem to find the specifics on how this transition will work. Also, if they have their external access to Worklife set up already, using their BEMS, will it still work that way after they are laid off? They know they can access it to enter their time on ETS through January, but wondering about after that. Thanks.

I understand those of us on round 1 here will be required to turn in the equipment shortly. Managers are still saying we can access our emails on personal computers till Jan 17. HOW? I wasn't able to find anything and all I get is go call worklife. Does anyone know about this?

can anyone post here or is it just for boeing workers

i see people posting about working for boeing and not about the actual planes themselves

Re: Uma’s email

So I turned in my stuff today and was walked out. I do get anxiety over what's to come but this is something I've dealt with for a long time so nothing new. But now for me I feel embarrassed to talk to friends and family about being laid off. I was told my layoff had nothing to do with bad performance so it's not like I think I did a bad job. I am actually kinda proud as the reason I was told is cuz I didn't play the buddy system. I didn't suck up to a senior manager, instead I came in did my job and went home. But again the embarrassment sets in when think I was the first cut. Anyone else deal with this?

Edit: wow thank you everyone for the responses. It makes me feel better knowing it's not something to be embarrassed about. I guess it just sucks cuz I truly do/did want to make boeing better and I became a manager to try and help. But to be chewed up and spit out after 12 years while I see others that are just there for the paycheck just kills that mentality. Oh well i guess like everyone says on to bigger and better.

R2 SPEEA Prof here, safe from layoffs. I want to jump ship and I just received a job offer from another company. I will be negotiating a start date at the new company in the next week or so. I’m going to ask to start in the new year. If I give Boeing my two weeks notice right before Christmas break, are they allowed to terminate me before then so I don’t receive holiday pay? I already plan on using all my sick time before my last day. Any other suggestions on how to optimize this transition?

My coworker told me i would get paid half my hourly rate when paying out my PTO balance. I didn't think that would be right. Is there anywhere that states what it would be? Thanks

Impacted numbers

Washington: 2199 Oregon: 50 Colorado: 63

California/Pennsylvania/South Carolina/Oklahoma/ Texas’s website don’t have any update yet as of noon of 11/18/24 EST

Not sure current employees per site but anyone know if this hits the 10% requirement?

Anyone else who got a layoff notice, with all the information being sent out, someone asked about something received called Older worker benefit protection act?

What the heck is this? Any insight as to what this means? Since the only people in their group to receive layoff notifications are over age 60 and have at least 2 decades with the company, they are concerned this requirement to sign something related to this might be detrimental to their getting rehired or getting benefits? They are reluctant to click the link and be taken to something they can't back out of.

Has anyone being laid off read through this document and can comment from a legal understanding?

It sounds like if we want the severance we have to agree to ourselves, our heirs, successors, assigns, or anyone claiming through or under them, releases and waives any and all claims Employee may have against Company, including, without limitation, claims arising out of or in any way related to acts or omissions occurring before the execution of this Agreement, including, without limitation, acts or omissions related to Employee's employment with, and layoff from, Company. The claims released by Employee include, without limitation, any and all claims arising from rights under federal, state, and local statutes, regulations, and ordinances, including, without limitation, any claim filed on Employee's behalf, and claims under laws prohibiting discrimination on any basis, including claims under the Age Discrimination in Employment Act of 1967, as amended, the Older Workers Benefit Protection Act (OWBPA), the Uniform Services Employment and Reemployment Rights Act (USERRA) , claims arising under the laws of the United States, any state or foreign jurisdiction, and common law claims of any nature, including, without limitation, contract, tort, and property rights claims, and claims arising under any applicable collective bargaining agreement

Has anyone else received email telling them they need to provide their exemption letter? My wife received email with three tasks, including making selection for ratification bonus and uploading her WA Cares Exemption Letter. We did this in 2021, so I’m confused why it’s being asked for. Does anyone have some insight here? We have her letter, so we can upload it again but a permanent exemption that needs to be refreshed in 3 years doesn’t seem very permanent.

Received layoff notice last week and told next steps to knowledge transfer. Log in after receiving notice and all access removed. Took immense amount of effort to log in and this is how they treat us after shattering our lives before the holidays?

Thank you IT BusOps and the incompetence to manage financials that has impacted more than it should have. (Millions extra) Doesn’t help that other Divisions forgot to plan for entire chunks of work like Allied security services. Which is making the deeper layoffs for some sacrificial lambs on miss “managing” the finances.

Hey soon to be army veteran and want to reside in Seattle area as my family is from there, noticed that the strike is over and wondering wen wen can i apply for a job job to do aircraft maintenance things

How do you find DTA for mechanics, and are there any going on right now

Hi,

Just curious about jobs that seem less prone to layoffs or if this can even be estimated.

I loved working at Boeing and my dream was to work there. I recently got laid off (Quality) and am looking to transition into a role that is less likely to be laid off. Is it even possible to rank? Would love to hear from others out there who have been at Boeing for years and how layoffs have affected them.

I'm looking into gaining skills in the Design Engineering realm and am also wondering if this job is less prone to layoffs. Also looking into Material Process and Physics. Thank you!

TLDR:

What are some engineering jobs at Boeing that are less prone to layoffs, or is it impossible to be predicted due to future business case? Thank you!

mine is the boeing 777-300ER, its cool

Is there still a PD Group? This is "Preliminary Design". They are designing the next Boeing jet now. No PD Group = Fail. This patient is terminal.