I have a coworker who has been at the company for like 40 years. To me, it just seems like she has a lot of PTO hours. So, I was just curious. She's not a high level employee. She's like a level 2 I believe. This year she took about 40 days of PTO.

I saw two emails that impacted two VPs in BDS Air Dominance and Engineering. Emails also left it vague where they're reshuffling some execs to backfill or looking to hire externally. So, not actually eliminating layers or even really consolidating orgs. I don't have visibility into BCA, BGS, or to other non-engineering functions. Is it just me or they just blowing a lot of smoke? What are you guys seeing?

In a perfect world, after all the RIF’s are handed out and orgs have been restructured, Kelly Ortberg will come in and talk to those left standing to see how they feel about who is gone and who is left. Managers got to make decisions about subordinates. Seniors got to make decisions about managers. Directors got to make decisions about seniors. And so on, all the way up. But….

If the issue with the culture, and the decisions of leadership and executives got us to where we are today, why are they being allowed to make the decisions on who goes and who stays? Isn’t it obvious their decision making skills are not good?

So many great managers and IC’s were let go while favorites, many who really suck, were kept. The last of the legacy knowledge people were pretty much forced to retire, solid teams were gutted, people who could actually use critical thinking and develop a plan instead of reacting to every tiny hint of something that could boost their career were demoted or let go. Some of the org restructures are a complete joke and very clearly communicate how out of touch these executives are.

Kelly and/or a neutral panel need to thoroughly vet these poor decision makers for their own position, as well as the poor performers they kept over good performers and why, and start from the top down.

Better yet, talk to the employees and see how they feel about these decisions. After all, they are the ones that have to continually clean up after you.

Someone I know has been hit by the RIF. They currently have an interim secret clearance.

What will happen with that clearance now? Will the process continue? Having that clearance would help their job hunt out tremendously.

Anybody know?

Is this particularly surprising considering many felt the plea deal let Boeing off too lightly? Is Boeing becoming less untouchable?

Hey, first year at Boeing and was wondering about the raise pool. Our manager mentioned they were in the process of inputting the ACR and I asked what the merit pool was this year. I think the whole room gasped and the manager deflected, he said it was held at a certain director level.

I had no idea it was taboo to discuss. At my last two employers, they would announce the raise pool each year, it wasn’t a secret. I know it’s typically around 3% give or take a percentage, so why hide it?

Anyway, anyone know what it is for non-onion salaried engineers in BDS?

Well, here we go, I guess. I know that a large portion of our community HAVE to be in their “office” to do their work, and I’m really grateful for what they do. I’m gonna vent an be bitter for a minute.

Why oh why - it is beyond ridiculous that those of us whose jobs are more desk-oriented are mandated to comply with this archaic way of working.

Has anyone seen any evidence that we haven’t adequately supported our customers? Has anyone seen any evidence that we are failing in collaboration with a hybrid schedule? If evidence exists, is it anomalous? Or rampant?

I’m now going to be losing two,non-value added, hours per day for no good reason.

But I guess eventually AI will take over where people choose to not work in an archaic business environment.

I've searched for this, but was unsuccessful doing so. I understand the repayment plan goes up to 2 years, has anyone ever gotten it for longer ?. tia.

Does anyone have the employer pin ccverify asked for.

I'm sitting in the parking lot after turning in my badge and cannot help but feel a sense of thanks for the r/Boeing community.

It means so much that so many of you have reached out to me. And it wasn't some half-assed 'sorry bro' and ghost type stuff either.

I am still having ongoing conversations with people. Some have given me their personal contact information with a couple locals offering to meet up and chat. And now that work is wrapped up, I intend to take them up on it.

It is amazing to me to see so many internet strangers care where people like my manager did not.

What you have done for me has meaning and will not be forgotten. I am going to be the person you guys have been for me to others.

Regardless of if your career is in Boeing or elsewhere, I have no doubt that based on your character you are going to be okay.

Seeing a lot of re-org emails that detail certain managers who have "decided to step down from management into an individual contributor role".

Buncha ball-washing bastards.

My manager is giving me zero help (as usual) regarding anything layoff related.

Today is my last working day and tomorrow I turn in my badge. I have a few questions.

Do I sign my timecard tonight or tomorrow? And do I need to do anything ETS related after today?

Thanks in advance.

Is there anyone that deferred their entire lump sum? If so I'd the entire amount go into 401k or did Medicare, Social Security, etc still get removed?

I only ask as I did 80/20 split, expecting around 2k or 1300ish after taxes.... they deducted $1500 from the $2000. Appears that a set amount around $1000ish is being taken for SS, Medicare, and then the taxes are being taken for the 20% ($400).

Curious to see what others are seeing....

I posted this the other day but considering the layoffs are supposed to be announced today I am reposting it.

If anyone has already gotten the pink slip what is your job/skill code?

I’ll be finding out in two hours if I’m safe..

does anyone think we will actually receive it tomorrow or most likely in a couple weeks/months?

Thought I would've seen a post by now for it. Taking a full hour to only talk about accomplishments with no Q&A in the midst of layoffs is... interesting. Certainly didn't read the room for how most people are feeling. This isn't a time for celebration at Boeing and we shouldn't pretend it is.

The current layoff wave is cutting muscle not the fat in my observation.

Hey all,

I was laid off during the first round. I was told recently that despite being paid by Boeing until January 17th, I could still claim unemployment benefits as of my last day of work. I have been unable to reach anyone at the unemployment office to confirm this and I don’t want to apply and have to pay it back later. Does anyone know if I can apply for benefits now? Or do I need to wait until January 17th?

For reference I was non-onion support.

Appreciate any guidance that can be provided.

Anyone watch the chat with Chris on all things BGS today? Bonuses and raises will happen it seems, 4% RIF in the states and they get another 'floating' holiday in CY25, oh and 4.5% for outside USA.

• At 4 o’clock is fresh outta high school Jack taking his girl Katie to Las Vegas for the first time “Dude you better see the Sphere irl it’s soooo cool”
• Also at 4 o’clock is Harvey taking his kids to Cali for the first time and he almost kissed Mariah Carey’s star on Sunset blvd but an un-house guy nearby told him “I wouldn’t do that”
• 11 o’clock is Bryan going to NYC and went to the Tesla showroom in Meatpacking i think. He bought his model Y in 2002 but last I heard dude is driving an F150 lol.

… I mean I have good days and bad days at work but I like most people I work with.