Hi everyone. I had been on Zyprexa 5mg for 3 weeks for insomnia and when I stopped with doc guidance, I felt agitation , anxiety and depression. For this reason, I started taking it again. Does this get better or everytime I stop them, I will have these symptoms? I don't know what to do. I take them for many years and I want to stop. Has anyone felt this way after stopping them?

I wish I could wake up and escape this sadistic hell called life after all the trauma I’ve endured by psychiatry. Being sane and being thrown into hospitals for years really takes a toll on you and changes your perception on “life.” After you have been diagnosed and or admitted to a facility for the first time, your life as you knew it is over. They won’t stop until you’re dead. Everything becomes about you being ill. I told my mandatory bitch therapist I felt broken after everyone in my life turned against me in the name of “mental health” aka money, ego and abuse and she said the problem is I want to be pampered. Hell is not hot enough for these predators. Jail is too comfortable and death would be too easy for them.

Every schizophrenic I know is a convenient scapegoat in a severely pathologically narcissistic family. Along with the chronic slow burn of extreme often covert abuse and neglect that comes with this, there is often a number of extreme traumatic events (facilitated indirectly by the checked out selfish parents of course) like child rape (that predators seek out children of bad parents for vulnerable targets is an established fact), extreme bullying, racism or homophobia (maybe this belongs to the slow burn category), violence etc. each persons life is unique, but pretending some one is incapable of being communicated with (especially for people who regress to extreme childlike and disorganized states) is a convenient way of hiding all this. Of course our social status quo always sides with the burdened parent narrative, which is pretty much universally taken advantage of by the bitching and moaning of the narcissistic parent (just read Eminem’s moms letter to him or go to an estranged parents forum), so the person loses their mind then gets severely neglected by their caregivers while the entire society shuns the sufferer and pities the emotional vampire who drove him insane and continues to abuse, gaslight and neglect them. Often the first overt break from reality if you want to call it that follows some milestone of coming of age this person (after being set up by a thoroughly inadequate childhood of abuse and neglect) that was met with failure or overwhelm, or another truly traumatic event (sexual assault, assault, witnessing violence blah blah blah) Drug use, which is an almost universal strategy in the larger population to cope with overwhelming emotions, is used as another convenient red herring scapegoat, when any true look at this persons history of subjective experience would easily explain that drug use was almost an inevitable attempt at escape. (All the stoners in the room with smug condescending mock pity shook their heads and blamed the lsd my friend took at 20 for his “schizophrenia” when he’s been hearing voices since he was 14, but are we not going to talk about the bitch mom? We’re not going to talk about the domineering asshole father) I don’t advocate heavy recreational drug use of course, and don’t deny that smoking a ton of weed could make someone prone to paranoia more paranoid (it makes everyone paranoid), but am looking at the convenient blame mongering at the expense of a real holistic view of an obvious social process that destroyed a person in pretty clear, and when acknowledged in a realistic way, reversible ways. Our common sense view of things like set and setting go out the window, because we are so eager to other these people, yet their reactions to drugs is often just a heightened version of the universal experience with drugs (sometimes scary, sometimes blissful, sometimes confusing, often addictive), as their reaction to ALL life stimuli is clearly intensified in comparison to “normal people” Often the drug use and addiction works it’s way into the delusional system itself, making it extremely hard for the person to just stop in the midst of their confusion. People don’t acknowledge how deeply ableist our entire civilization is and how eager we are to pick and choose what “symptoms” to acknowledge as disability and which ones to chastise and blame monger, which is what we really wanted to do anyway. That’s why we have dumbfuck “philosophers” intellectually masturbate and muse over the “delicate nature of the human mind” or whatever then proclaim inane bullshit that permeates the larger population like “mental illness explains but does not excuse blah blah” or “being friends with this lonely clearly harmless maybe rather odd person is not your responsibility” as firm ethical findings on par with scientific truth. Of course things like violence need to be protected against and there is a need for a bare minimum of preventative measure when someone loses their mind and becomes erratic enough to cause harm, but emphasis on bare minimum. That’s not what we have, instead we have a punitive carceral system that plays out our desire to subjugate and other people we are disgusted by. The blame mongering mental illness explains but does not excuse horseshit is usually employed not in extreme cases like violence, but rather in the extremely petty microcosm of a clearly disorganized man making an off color racial comment and giggling hysterically, or repeatedly asking for food. What we really mean by the explain but does not excuse line is that we don’t want our cheap entertainment of chortling at Kanye west taken away. The precursors to what we call mental illness are not in any way subtle, once again I’m talking about things like pedophelia, a mom putting her 7year olds hand on the stove for “discipline”, chronic family scapegoating, etc. Society has been thoroughly psychiatrized by what is essentially eugenic lore about genetic deficits, brain blah blah by a guild of wannabe scientists who insist they are real scientists at every turn (kind of a red flag to me that they whine about their discipline not being taken seriously). Most psychosis probably wouldn’t become nearly as chronic, but most people today who have psychotic episodes are immediately put on powerful tranquilizers, starting a lifelong cycle of brain damage and dopamine rebound psychosis, which the doctors deny. Essentially this person lives a shitty abused life in a narcissistic family, graduates to become a plaything of a disgusting narcissistic medical system psychiatry is just a modern eugenic system materializing out of… the ambient individualistic, ableist, “not my job” uncaring population which happily feeds it young minds eager to intellectually masturbate as heroes stooping so low as to talk to the untouchables for 5 minutes then order some thugs to go inject him with invega. A population this ableist who shuns and looks the other way to this extreme suffering because they don’t like to hear someone speak like dr seuss or have some strange paranoid ideas is… a large scale narcissistic system! When someone is chewed up and spit out by life in so many blatant ways, they usually just hide in their rooms and live a horrible life, but don’t be surprised when every once in a while someone beheads an innocent stranger on a mega bus or shoots their dumb cunt mom in the head, it’s really just an extrapolation of the same cause and effect that makes me feel sad when you tell me my pancakes taste like shit (I don’t start yapping about dopamine or serotonin to explain that either) although admittedly much more extreme. This is why I texted my friends dad telling him we’ve been hearing him blame his son for years, but I was wondering when we were gonna start talking about his and his bitch wife’s severe personality disorders.

Every time I’ve seen it happen, the siblings often are completely fucked in the head too, in pretty clear yet socially acceptable ways. I guess this is no surprise since narcissism is often enabled and high functioning people are given a major pass for not being resource dependent. What a crime to need some help hahaha. Much more virtuous to be physics major little brother who says things like “you know you’d have to wonder if it’s ethical to treat people with cerebral palsy, it would be hard for their parents and they would’ve just died a long time ago” Yup that guys fascist views are normal, but his brother is “schizophrenic” hahahahaha.

What’s a necessary condition is extreme stress. I don’t mean to say all mommies and daddies are totally to blame, I’m not saying all little bubbies and big sisters are rotten and selfish. There’s a whole spectrum, and the nicer families usually correspond to a nicer psychosis (if you want to call it nicer, it’s probably still terrifying and confusing) and better prognosis. but the reason we don’t talk about the fact that this is a social phenomenon that overwhelmingly often starts in a horribly dysfunctional family is because it’s taboo. It’s easier to just let the family scapegoat graduate to a social scapegoat. For someone to be that battered, the family can usually be implicated in major ways if people just pay a little attention.

Read bertram Karon, he has an excellent book and other snippets and articles and videos online, although his Freudian dogmatism can be a little much sometimes. He helped people recover outside of the medical model. There’s many others too, but not nearly enough. What I’m saying is out there, it’s just heavily suppressed.

Hello there, I watch Dr Lucy Johnstone she is a professional which challenges mental health disorders and the DSM. Here is a video which is only short but i think she sums up diagnosis quite well I would be interested to know what you think about it.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dclF04_Zfz8&pp=ygUcZHIgbHVjeSBqb2huc3RvbmUgYmlybWluZ2hhbQ%3D%3D

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They force people “meds” with horrific side effects and in a lot of cases the person doesn’t even need the meds. How are they allowed to do this? Surely it’s against a person’s human rights?

I am a member of other subs that are not psychiatry related, however in their rules they ban anyone who tries to solicit people for interviews, medical studies, thesis work and things of that nature. Especially because those certain communities are so prone to harsh judgement, harassment, and stalking.

This should be a space for current victims and survivors of psychiatry, and anyone in their support system that isn’t pro-psychiatry. We don’t need people who are currently in training to become psychiatrists, psychologists, psych nurses, anything psych to pretend to be our allies. They are trained to see us as beneath them, that the “chemical imbalances” must be so strong that we don’t know how to consent, we don’t deserve agency over our bodies. They are the people who tell you “we just want what’s best for you” with a smile on their face before they give you mind-altering substances (or brain shock lobotomies) that can leave you with life long consequences. They don’t help us so why should we help them? They can always claim they’re just trying to learn about other perspectives but at the end of the day they will always worship the cult of psychiatry unless they wake up to how evil it is and decide to make a sudden career change. They’re in it for the money, we’re trying to find ways to heal ourselves and move forward without ever having to be in their presence again.

Everyday at psyhiatric hopsital they inject 1 at 9am second at 14 pm 2 injections so my question what did they inject?

I've been off the poison three months and still have lumps and terrible pain at injection site

Rly struggled to find compatible understanding work. All the job assistant people never call me back so im on my own for job hunting i guess. They asked me how i was and i told them. I should of told them a lie because obviously i scared them. Stupid rly im a hard worker but scare people easy. Because they abandon me i stay in poverty easier and just dig deeper in risky unhealthy starved over worked brain psychosis territory :Pppp thanks world for treating me like shit when i would of tried saving your life. Just have to keep fighting for the right to live while rising above the hate.

I just Want to thank you for letting me see psychiatry for what it is with fresh eyes. I have overcome the withdrawal down to 300 mg of Seroquel. And I took that for psychosis at much larger doses. So now where I’m down to 300 mg Seroquel that is considered to only have antidepressive effect I’ve made the decision to go low on Seroquel since I’ve never had a depression for all of my life so now I’m going to taper it down with 50 mg in 5 min. I know that it can be unsafe but I’ll give it a try.

One of my close friends told me that “psychiatry saved their life” and that i should think about “the people it did help”. I don’t know how to handle it. Cool. The thing that “saved” you gave me permanent brain damage.

I’ve seen this especially as a trans person from other trans people. Why are we so associated with right wingers when the “mental health workers” have such a history of abusing and stereotyping transgender people?

Is it real or fake? If you don't believe that it is real, please explain in detail what you think is happening to the people who are obviously displaying those symptoms that are not normal at all. What about DPDR?

Or is it real? Regarding this whole antipsychiatry thing. So are people that hallucinating lying??

I was misdiagnosed with schizophrenia in 2019 and I have been forced to take some horrific medications ever since. I’ve been told that I’ll probably be on high dose antipsychotics for the rest of my life. I don’t want to be forced to take medication I don’t need for an illness I don’t have for the rest of my life. What can I do?

Hi everyone. I have been in Olanzapine- zyprexa 5mg for 1 month now. Before that, I had been on Zyprexa again , and when I stopped it with my doc help, I had terrible agitation, bad mood and panics. Has anyone recovered from olanzapine withdrawal and does feel normal without taking other drugs?

This Dylan song offers us a wonderful opportunity to consider how to respond when someone you care about emotionally troubled and is crying: https://www.frominsultstorespect.com/2024/03/20/bob-dylans-baby-stop-crying/

“There is no blood or other biological test to ascertain the presence of a mental illness, as there is for most bodily diseases. If such a test were developed, then the condition would cease to be a mental illness and would be classified, instead, as a symptom of a bodily disease.” – Professor of psychiatry emeritus Dr Thomas Szasz

Clearly, the academics agree, there are no genetic tests, no brain scans, blood tests, chemical imbalance tests or X-rays that can scientifically or medically prove that any psychiatric disorder is a ‘medical’ condition.

If there were verifiable brain scans, or in fact any medical/scientific test that could show a physical/medical abnormality for any psychiatric disorder, the public would be getting such tests prior to being administered psychiatric treatments.

It is important to understand, medical diseases can be and are tested for and are universally recognised as such. Psychiatric ‘diseases’ however, are merely the opinions of the observer.

SOURCE: https://www.cchr.org.uk/is-madness-a-disease/no-tests-to-diagnose-mental-illness/

What do you think about this?

Hello there, I was going to post on unpopular opinion however it wasn’t welcomed I hope I can post it on here.

It is annoying and upsetting to even say is this an unpopular opinion but it is. Gaslighting is a serious issue whether it is intentional or unintentional and there is a misunderstanding of what it means it isn’t lying or a disagreement, but there are certain characteristics which people should be able to identify. I think nitpicky professionals or society need to be careful about dogma to whether something is gaslighting when clearly is. I’m talking about if someone has experienced gaslighting but it isn’t the cliché consciously manipulate type more the unintentional social gaslighting like “No Graham is lovely he wouldn’t do that” “I didn’t say that your over reacting” “I don’t agree with you only a mentally ill or fool would believe that” etc. These are all unintentional gaslighting or even intentional and it doesn’t help when a therapist says no it isn’t because it isn’t unintentional or isn’t the cliche gaslighting. Talking to people online in the past has invalidate my own experiences of gaslighting and I believe others have had a similar experience. If someone says they have been gaslighting believe them stop the dogma and nitpicking it is ironically gaslighting in of itself to invalidate it. Invalidation makes you distrust your instincts to wether you have been gaslight and you feel a bit of a idiot. This is dangerous and like I said it is gaslighting and you’re now gaslighting yourself.

A year and a half ago had to come of risperdal due to high prolactin, i developed the constant nausea with full body nausea. . nobody told me that this could happen. i have spent 1000’s of dollars on gastro testing. i, not thinking it was caused by risperdal, tapered off my lithium. i discussed it with my nurse practitioner to the point i was seeing her every 3 months to discuss my tapering. along with the nausea, horrible cramping and pains in my abdomen. i was diagnosed with”ibs”. and their was noting i could do. some people have more pain than others.🙄. and so after - number a months i began to taper the ssri. with know help from anyone i the medical field, i typed everything in ChatGP. it came up with PAWS. Everything fits, i dont know how long I will continue to feel this way. It sucks, but i have been off the meds for a while and i feel good. i am no longer in a fog. i am realizing who i am and thinking for myself. I am excited for the future. i just have to wait it out.

Hello! I am a 17-year-old high school student and a psychiatry and TTI survivor. I posted about my research project a few weeks ago. I am doing a research project for my psychology class regarding the disconnect in research of clinical practices and the actual applications of these practices that typically disregard modern research. For this project, I am looking into the experiences of other psychiatry and/or TTI survivors to provide evidence of practices that go against research being used in mainstream psychiatric care. Please complete this anonymous Google form if you have the time and are comfortable sharing. Your help is appreciated! We need to debunk what is going on in these facilities! (I'm also unsure if surveys are allowed in this subreddit, so if this goes against the sub-rules, please just let me know.)

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeRN2lEwsBtFDlfNJEPkRHDFBAkaQ4JHPBOSn4-PnC7mirwmQ/viewform?usp=dialog

I am anti-psychiatry for reasons related to my own treatment, but today I’m asking about a situation with someone else. I hope it’s ok to ask this here, as almost anywhere else on Reddit I’d be accused of ableism.

I’m going to be somewhat vague just for the purposes of readability.

This person has acquired a laundry list of diagnoses. Some I do see him having, but one in particular I do not. I’m not sure if he has false memories or just doesn’t understand what it means to experience certain symptoms. He’s not diagnosed as bipolar, but the closest thing I can think of is thinking you have mania because sometimes you are just really happy. Those who understand mania know it’s not just feeling really happy, but has a slew of symptoms, and when you’re manic you experience multiple symptoms. I will add that he has incorrect memories about other things from the past as well, not just a misinterpretation of what happened, but states that certain things happened that absolutely did not happen.

So anyway, his diagnosis involved extensive testing/interview sessions. Part of this involved talking about childhood symptoms. I flat out know with 100% certainty that he did not have 2 of the symptoms that he told his doctor he did. To this day he still talks about these symptoms with a complete misunderstanding of what it means to have them.

All of this has been going on for years now. There’s no talking to him or else he shuts you out for being “invalidating”. I think he’s found something that has affirmed why he’s different, and it gives him an excuse to not get better. Yes, he’s involved in certain mental health communities online that hug-box and “other” the people not like them, while simultaneously creating a victim complex.

He is very much loved by me and others he’s shut out. He has very few people in his life and hardly ever sees them. He just claims that nobody understands him. He doesn’t grasp the concept that people can love you exactly as you are and never understand what you deal with. He’s so enmeshed with the idea that his disorder is his identity and there’s really no pulling him out of it.

It’s heartbreaking to see a loved one get victimized by psychiatry like this, but at the same time I know I need to let go and accept that the person I knew is gone. The door won’t be shut, as if one day he wakes up, I’ll be there for him. However, I need to let go and mourn, and I don’t know how to do this.

Has anyone else lost a loved one to a false diagnosis like this? How did you cope?

Thank you.

In 9 days, I’ll officially hit 10 months since my last 100mg Invega Sustenna injection. I had a total of 10 shots from June 2023 to February 2024, which I was forced to take by the court here in Ontario.

I was told by people both here and on forums that I might see results around the 6-month mark and fully recover by the 12-month mark. That hasn’t been the case for me. I haven’t seen any improvements in any area. Some of the side effects I have include excessive sleep, anhedonia, lack of motivation, poor concentration, no pleasure or interest in anything, a blank mind with no thoughts, and aphantasia, to name a few.

I haven’t fully given up on the hope of recovery because I’ve heard of people in other forums recovering around the 18 to 24 month mark. It’s mind-boggling that Invega continues to affect us long after discontinuation. In my case, the drug should be fully eliminated by now, so it just doesn’t make sense. Could it be due to D2 dopamine upregulation from long-term Invega use? I don’t know—Invega is just a very potent neurotoxin, I guess.

I also tried marijuana last month, and it had no effect on me. Substances don’t seem to work anymore. It was a bad idea to even try weed because marijuana is the root cause of all my problems. I seriously regret using it in the first place.

I just want the anhedonia gone and get my cognitive abilities back so I can look for a job, but it’s really hard. I wouldn’t wish this experience on my worst enemy. This is just my update. I’ll definitely update you guys again if I recover.

I was just listening to “Know your enemy” by Green Day and the lyrics are

Silence is an enemy, against your urgency, So rally up the demons of your soul

It just spoke to me on this issue. The urgency (or “disorder”) is silenced by the meds. If we are medicated we will not rise up to demand change.

What songs speak to you? I’d love to make a playlist.

Suppose there was a car going through mud and you weren’t satisfied with the speed, so you attach nitro boosters to get it to move at a satisfying speed. Would then it be logical to conclude that the car was merely nitro booster deficient? Nobody has looked into my brain to knowledgeably say I am actually having a chemical imbalance.

I went to my primary doctor for extreme fatigue, anxiety, sleep issues, etc. They had me do a comprehensive metabolic panel. When everything in the results looked okay, they referred me to a psychiatrist. Sadly, this panel did not check for a vitamin D deficiency.

So over the course of multiple years my psychiatrist had me try a wide variety of antidepressants and sleep medications. Wellbutrin, Trazodone, Prozac, Zoloft, etc. None of these seemed to actually help me. Thankfully, I don't have lasting negative effects from the SSRIs.

Then my psychiatrist referenced me to a psychologist for ADHD. I guess his theory was that I might be depressed because I'm having a hard time managing my symptoms of ADHD? No idea. Of course the psychologist diagnosed with me with ADHD, because 75% of people meet the diagnostic criteria for ADHD. I don't want to upset anyone here, I just genuinely believe that.

Thankfully, my psychiatrist saw I had slightly elevated blood pressure levels, so he started me on Strattera before considering stimulants. I say 'thankfully' because if I was given an Adderall perscription, I would be completely dependent and addicted to it right now. Hell, my psychiatrist might've been prescribed me literal meth, considering it's sold under the brand name Desoxyn to people with ADHD. That would be a nightmare.

Anyways, the Strattera didn't do anything for me. After taking it for a few months, I randomly saw people discussing vitamin D deficiencies online. The symptoms appeared to match mine very closely, and I thought this would make a lot of sense, since I'm a programmer who spends too much time indoors. A few days later I went and got my vitamin D levels tested.

I was at 9ng/mL. This is severely deficient. After I got the results, I immediately started taking supplements, and got a vitamin D injection to try to boost my levels as quickly as possible. I started to feel better within a few days, although this could've been a placebo. Regardless, it's been 2 years since then. My levels are now very healthy, and I feel absolutely fantastic. I feel like an entirely different person.

The sad thing is that I feel like I wasted a few years of my life in a miserable haze because my primary care doctor didn't think to get me test for common nutritional deficiencies. For some unknown, deranged reason people are given SSRIs before they have their fucking vitamin D levels checked. This is absolutely insane! 30-50% of the population has a vitamin D deficiency! Many of the symptoms sound like depression! It should be one of the first things they test for when people think they have depression!

So what even is the moral of the story here? All I took from this experience is that I can trust the shit I read online as much as, if not more than, I can trust my own doctors.

You know what else is deranged? The fact that I've constantly heard doctors and people from the medical establishment write off vitamins as a total scam. They say "nobody needs to take vitamins, we get enough through our foods". This is common online talking point for people who are involved in medicine/science. I'm sure some vitamins aren't necessary. I also doubt any are necessary when someone eats a perfectly balanced diet and is outdoors often. But who is that applicable to in the modern world?

I believed this garbage and thought all supplements were a total scam. I thought I must not have a nutritional deficiency, despite vitamin D supplements being the fucking cure to my health issues! How the fuck can they say this when 30-50% of people are deficient in vitamin D and should be taking supplements?!? Like what the fuck? Do they not know that? How could they be unaware of this?! Isn't it their job?

That you got prescribed by your psych? I got exposed a bunch of times by my mother for not taking them (and they still realize I just don't wanna take them) and I had this thought... I'm curious I know I'm bad for not wanting to engage in society and have a job, for being lazy etc. but I just don't wanna take these pills, I'm autistic I can barely function I wish I could be left alone but I have responsibilities in the human society feel so much guilt and ...